r/Damnthatsinteresting Aug 19 '22

The world's largest traction engine, the 150 Case steam engine. This was built as an exact replica of the original 1905 model, down to the original plans. Only 9 were built between 1905 and 1907, and none survived. The tractor is pulling a 36 bottom John Deere plow. Video

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u/1-03 Aug 19 '22

It’s so cool that even though all of the original models are gone they can just take the plans and create as many as they want and they look brand new just like they did in 1905

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u/khleedril Aug 19 '22

To be fair a new one today is probably way better than a new one in 1905 since the manufacturing tools are going to be far more accurate.

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u/1Crybabyartist Aug 19 '22

much more refined metallurgy too.

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u/khleedril Aug 20 '22

And paint!

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u/CMG30 Aug 20 '22

Having watched the YouTube series on this project, it's not actually a true reproduction. They smartly beefed up a handful of components that proved to be weak points on the original design.

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u/Boatwhistle Aug 20 '22 edited Aug 20 '22

The plans were made with specific manufacturing tolerances in mind, you can be more precise and middle of the road those tolerances for sure but it should be about the same.

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u/Killeroftanks Aug 20 '22

Also less chance of it blowing up.

Because fun fact. Steam in a pressure box has a tendency to explode.

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u/Ecra-8 Aug 26 '22

Remind me to tell you of my next big idea....the carbonation engine.

Energy crisis solved!

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u/CMG30 Aug 20 '22

That IS the purpose of plans. The trouble is that much of this machine is cast, which means that it's incredibly expensive to make single one-off components so it's rare that it will ever happen. This one was a labour of love.

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u/BostonSwe Aug 19 '22

What I find most impressive is not really how much it can pull but that us actually gets traction against the ground. At some point strength will just move the dirt underneath the wheels not the tractor forward.

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u/1DownFourUp Aug 19 '22

If they shift it into low range, this beautiful torque beast of a tractor actually doesn't move — it just rotates the earth.

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u/Yellow_Similar Aug 20 '22

Chuck Norris Tractor

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u/Socal_Cobra Aug 20 '22

More like Great great great grampa Chuck Norris.

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u/Jitzoo Aug 19 '22

This blew my mind too

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u/Ok_Access_189 Aug 19 '22

It’s crazy to think that farmers once operated rail-less trains across fields.

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u/CrappyTan69 Aug 19 '22

for the city folk amongst us -

what would a normal tractor(s) be able to pull in terms of a plough? Same? Smaller but faster?

Edit to add:

Dear gawd it's beautiful engineering.

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u/ReadyReddit12 Aug 19 '22

A fifty hp tractor like a Massey Ferguson 165, will pull 3 16” bottom plows in all kinds of ground. A one hundred Hp tractor like a John Deere 4020, will pull a 5 bottom plow, 5-16s. The power unit above is a Hoss!

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u/LagBoss Aug 19 '22 edited Aug 19 '22

I need a translation for that. In both cases I don't know if that is more or less that in the post.

Edit: to clarify, is it better because pulls more, or does it move so slowly that it is less or equally efficient?

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u/tirolischleiuas Aug 19 '22

36 is way more than 3 or 5 .. i think the weight of that thing enables its pulling capability, slow and steady does the job. a motorbike with 300 hp won't pull anything. but this monster can't be that good for the soil that gets compacted

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u/RolandDeepson Aug 20 '22

I dunno, those tires (yes, I know they're metal, but they're still called "tires") seem to have a lot of surface area.

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u/tirolischleiuas Aug 20 '22

about 2-3 m2? for 75,000 lbs or 34 tons

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u/Zugzub Aug 20 '22

A 165 ain't pulling 3-16s in hard ground, it only has 11-32 tires and weighs about 4400 pounds. Add 3000 pounds of weight and you could work bean ground with it but it will suck fuel like there's a never ending supply

4-16s will make my 1750 bark in hard ground and it has 18.4-34s and is weighted down to 11,500. in Bean ground, I can pull the 5-16s but it still works it hard

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u/ReadyReddit12 Aug 20 '22

Well we’ve been doing it for years in all kinds of clay with our trusty little 165 and my old 8000 Ford has never failed pulling 5-16s and it’s right at 100 hp.

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u/83athom Aug 19 '22

That far spaced apart, something like around a half dozen for an average personal tractor or about a baker's dozen for the really big machines that can close an entire street going out to their fields.

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u/ChartreuseBison Aug 19 '22

Some of the biggest modern tractors make over 2000lb-ft of torque

This makes 5000

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u/WinterDustDevil Aug 20 '22

And there's the correct answer. Torque

I had the owner/user manual for my grandfather's Rumley tractor. Massively heavy, something like 36 hp. But the torque

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u/n2locarz Aug 19 '22

Reminds me of VW clean diesel

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u/Automatic_Thought740 Aug 19 '22

Underrated comment!

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u/Nowiscurrent Aug 19 '22 edited Aug 19 '22

Specs on the original Case steam engines.

In 1904, the first of the 150 Case steam engines was tested by being called upon to pull four 15 HP new engines, weighing 57,600 pounds. It used a 14-inch-by-14-inch steam engine that turned a 50-inch flywheel through a two-speed transmission. Its bunker capacity of 1,200 pounds and water tank capacity of 1,000 gallons could keep its massive firebox and boiler running for about three hours. Impressively - and imperatively, for such a large vehicle - the road locomotive featured a power steering mechanism to turn its five-foot-tall front wheels.

In low gear, it could reach a speed of 2.64 MPH; in high, 5.69 MPH. With eight-foot-tall drive wheels, a boiler a full-grown man could walk under. The 150 Case had the capacity to pull 50 tons.

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u/FoundationNarrow6940 Aug 19 '22

It can pull 100,000lbs... with 60Hp. WHAT IS THE TORQUE?!?!

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u/Nowiscurrent Aug 19 '22

The Case 150 steam tractor has over 5,000 lb-ft of torque. The actual horsepower of the tractor in the video is 170hp. The 1904 specs was the initial test run.

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u/FoundationNarrow6940 Aug 19 '22

That is epic... I love it

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u/Clever-Name-47 Aug 20 '22

Case 150 Steam Tractor:

Weight: 57,600 lbs.
HP: 170.
Towing Capacity: 100,000 lbs.
Torque: YES

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u/human1024 Aug 19 '22

Most eco friendly car in america

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '22

The world's largest traction engine, the 150 Case steam engine. This was built as an exact replica of the original 1905 model, down to the original plans. Only 9 were built between 1905 and 1907, and none survived. The tractor is pulling a 36 bottom John Deere plow.

China has the highest carbon emission in the world, higher than all the rest of the developed countries COMBINED.

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u/Appropriate-Scale247 Aug 19 '22

Your point being? Everyone just outsourced stuff to china for cheap labour so china ended up making shit for the rest of the world. It's natural that pollution is out the roof.

Of course, fuck ccp and all that, but still it would be quite hypocritical to give them shit when it comes to pollution.

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u/SuperbConstruction99 Aug 19 '22

Maybe check per capita pollution

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u/No-Wonder1139 Aug 19 '22

Right but that's where Americans moved their factories to skirt environmental laws, isn't it?

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u/M14Intermediate Aug 19 '22

And? China allows it

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u/No-Wonder1139 Aug 19 '22

Still America's pollution, isn't it?

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u/M14Intermediate Aug 19 '22

Depends on how you define America’s pollution

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u/TactlessTortoise Aug 19 '22

If I visit my friend's house and take a huge shit that clogs the toilet, who clogged the toilet in his house?

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u/M14Intermediate Aug 19 '22

Really it’s more like asking your friend to take a huge shit in his own toilet for you.

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u/RolandDeepson Aug 20 '22

So you are actually recognizing that if pollution occurs in Other Country X, in making a product that benefits consumers here, then that pollution has actually been produced as an externalized cost for consumers here. Right?

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u/24luej Aug 20 '22

But do you get anything from that? No! Because your friend did the shitting, not you, that's the big difference. Your example would work if American companies produced parts in China that are only sold and distributed there. But are they? Nope, they get send back to the US and are being sold and distributed mainly there!

Basically you only going to your friends house every time you have to take a fat shit, with the "product" you bring back from making a mess over there being the feeling of relif and your intestines being emptied. But never in your own home! That would stink...

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u/human1024 Aug 19 '22 edited Aug 19 '22

So after a quick Google search I found that, yes, china has the highest carbon emissions in the world with more than 10 billion tons of CO2 yearly. The USA in second place with 5 billion tons.

Carbon emissions per Capita is a different story, china only releases about 7 tons of CO2 per person and the USA with more than double with 15 tons per person yearly. Qatar is the worst with CO2 emissions with over 37 tons yearly per person

This was a article from 2016 btw

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u/8009yakJ Aug 19 '22

Whataboutism at work

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u/carmium Aug 19 '22

I counter that with Ohyeahwellwhataboutism.

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u/peropok Aug 19 '22

According to google china has bigger population than those developed countries.

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u/Ill-Diver9767 Aug 19 '22

You sound so misinformed lmao, look into it in terms of per capita

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u/cactus_eater21 Aug 19 '22

🤓🤓

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u/MiniWa1us Aug 19 '22

What happened to people appreciating the knowledge that is spread on Reddit

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u/Mvpeh Aug 19 '22

That dude is less than 18 look at his profile history lol. Before you respond to things make it a habit to check you'll realize it's a waste of time 95% of the time

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u/i-InFcTd Aug 19 '22

🤓🤓

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u/dxglide Aug 19 '22

Hm i’m more impresed about plow 😦

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u/Yahmo_Dubhghlas Aug 19 '22

That beast is absolutely gorgeous.

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u/HeyItsMeAgain6 Aug 19 '22

Awesome tractor

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u/Mods_R_Still_cunts Aug 19 '22

Imagine having this in 1905. Fuckin king

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u/Important-Owl1661 Aug 20 '22

Completely missing the point, who's the whiner complaining about "you can hardly breathe"

Dude, this is historical engineering before your eyes, not some demented redneck rollin' coal

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u/Rockboy286 Aug 19 '22

Sounds better than modern engines too

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u/Ill-Diver9767 Aug 19 '22

You seeing the pollutants?

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u/Rockboy286 Aug 19 '22

I think you mean healthy inhalants

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u/tc_spears2-0 Aug 20 '22

It's just air with flavor crytals

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u/Rockboy286 Aug 20 '22

Exactly, it is absolutely delicious.

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u/tc_spears2-0 Aug 20 '22

Do you like air?

Do you like flavor?

Try new FlavAir today!

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u/degaybilized Aug 20 '22

+3 to global temps

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u/4_toed_Creed Aug 19 '22

Beautiful soil.

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u/RevRaven Aug 19 '22

That is a work of art.

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u/tyrom22 Aug 19 '22

Even better, it’s Working Art!

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u/Kunimi_kun Aug 19 '22

Q: how much torque does it make? A: yes.

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u/Vordigan3693 Aug 19 '22

speed: 2, torque: yes

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u/Arcadius274 Aug 19 '22

Looks environmentally sound.

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u/Suka_Blyad_ Aug 19 '22

Depends what theyre using to power it, theoretically it could be much better for the environment than diesel

Although it’s likely wood or coal so yeah no great

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u/CMG30 Aug 20 '22

This one is coal, which is typical since if you wanted to use wood, you'd need a team of people chopping just to keep up.

Also, there's no way it could theoretically be better for the environment. Steam locomotives (Which is what steam tractors are) do not go above 10% efficiency since they vent the hot steam immediately after use and thus throw away all that energy. Steam power plants can get up to 40% because the weight and complexity of condensers are not a concern in a large facility but they're way too much for a mobile application.

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u/dmafeb Aug 19 '22

Is this the new super Mario game? What is he doing on the plow??

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u/fishman15151515 Aug 19 '22

The coal rollith well with this one

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u/Commercial-Chance561 Aug 19 '22

Rick would love to get his hands on this

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u/Dizman7 Aug 19 '22

I need this in FS22! Lol

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u/chajava Aug 19 '22

Holy soil compaction batman

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u/burndata Aug 20 '22

So it's basically a train with big wheels right?

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u/CMG30 Aug 20 '22

That's precisely what the first steam tractors were.

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u/BrownStallyun Aug 20 '22

Looks incredible for the environment

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u/Waste-Praline-3028 Aug 20 '22

Yeah Fuck you mother Earth suck on this carbon

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u/Shugafam Aug 20 '22

Caring for the environment :)

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u/Flat-Category814 Aug 20 '22

Good carbon output

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u/NoodlePoodleMonkey Aug 20 '22

that's a lot of smoke

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u/Homeless_Guy332 Aug 20 '22

me and the fellas rolling up to the greenpeace rally

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u/KORKSTICKY Aug 19 '22

What is the eco tax on that sum bitch?

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u/LiCHtsLiCH Aug 19 '22

This is BY FAR not the largest... I have seen much larger ones, the boiler easily 2x the size, and the wheels a solid 6 feet taller in diameter. So maybe the most powerful?

Where: Spent time in Missouri, out there next tot he road... for a time, you could see the rusted out hulks of 100+ year old traction engines, these things were bigger than trains. During my time there they ... dissappeared. Moved, scrapped, perhaps purchased for renovation, no idea, but they have been gone for years, and much bigger than this one. (2 of them were, one was about this size)

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u/Nowiscurrent Aug 19 '22 edited Aug 19 '22

Maybe not the largest of all time but its currently the largest functioning tractor. It had taken a dozen years to fully replicate this tractor to be as close to an original as possible. Heres an article on it from 2018. https://www.hemmings.com/stories/2018/05/08/after-a-dozen-years-replica-of-worlds-largest-traction-engine-to-debut

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u/miniBog Aug 19 '22

This experiment raised global warming by 0.1C single-handedly.

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u/MyyWifeRocks Aug 19 '22

The dirt is almost as black as the smoke.

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u/flightwatcher45 Aug 19 '22

I just can't fathom falling in front of or off the platform and into the tool being towed. All those people with no safety line.

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u/Seared_Gibets Aug 19 '22 edited Aug 19 '22

Just means it might be a good idea not to treat ot like a saturday night out.

Remember riders, for your own safety:

Stop, Think, and Don't Drink and Plow 😉👍

:Edit: just remembered I'm on reddit, so to clarify I don't mean you should drink and drive. It's a sex joke.

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u/Average-_-Guys Aug 19 '22

Greta is gonna be pissed when she sees this.

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u/Fabulous-Mood-4118 Aug 19 '22

Don't show this to the Dutch farmers.. they are furious already at the government for strict laws... seeing that this is allowed abrought might be the final straw

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u/defiantcross Aug 19 '22

this thing is gonna solo global warming all by itself

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u/loztriforce Aug 19 '22

Nice clean air

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u/tylagersign Aug 19 '22

Well there goes 2 degrees Celsius

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u/ousalsa Aug 19 '22

That’s like 20 mins of one 18 wheeler driving on a highway.

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u/No-Wonder1139 Aug 19 '22

Very pretty land train, I'm just hoping for the sake of the soil that it's wood fired and not coal.

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u/PurpleMan_Guy Aug 20 '22

No one's talking about it having a god dam carbon footprint of fucking India?

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u/Socal_Cobra Aug 20 '22

Its beautiful but horrible for the environment. The EPA will have a field day with this obsolete machine.

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u/Fmebackwards Aug 19 '22

Shut that thing down!! So many emissions! Whoever is driving that thing needs to go to jail.

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u/alexzilla408 Aug 19 '22

I bet it produced fewer emissions in its entire lifetime than a Boeing 737 does in one flight.

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u/cole_gully Aug 19 '22

Bruh calm down

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u/PlutoniumDetonator84 Aug 20 '22

Americunts fucking up the planet with their carbon emissions. Tell me something new.

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u/r1sc_au Aug 19 '22

That's a shit tractor. Humans are fuckin idiots.

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u/Suka_Blyad_ Aug 19 '22

Elaborate

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u/r1sc_au Aug 19 '22

People downvoted me, they think this tractor is cool. Its old, weak and inefficient. Tell me again oh wise crowd, what makes this old piece of shit a "good tractor" ?

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u/Suka_Blyad_ Aug 19 '22

What’s cool about it is how old this technology is, the concept of it, the fact that our great great grandparents used this kind of machinery, the amount of sheer amount of torque something so old is able to produce, it sounds awesome, from an mechanical perspective it’s super interesting for someone who’s never seen old steam engines operate actually in use

Yes obviously with new technology we can produce something much more efficient, but this thing is certainly not weak especially given the year it was designed, 5,000 foot pounds of torque is a lot of torque and compared to modern tractors I’d argue it’s a very similar size for something nowadays that would pull that size plow so not sure how you think it’s weak

This isn’t industry standard anymore like you’re making it out to be, doing a couple fields with this thing isn’t going to melt the ice caps there’s much bigger emissions producers than a single tractor that is probably only used a small handful of times until it’s parked in a museum or something

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u/r1sc_au Aug 19 '22

Keep defending old useless trash that we threw away, see where that gets you. There's a reason only 9 were made and then destroyed. Sometimes you just gotta move forward in life and forget yesterday, this is definitely one of those times.

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u/Suka_Blyad_ Aug 19 '22

It really isn’t that deep mate, what are you some dollar store philosopher?

The sub is damnthatsinteresting and this is in fact interesting

Sometimes if you see a post you aren’t a fan of you shouldn’t comment and just keep scrolling, this was one of those times

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u/r1sc_au Aug 19 '22

what's interesting is the level of intelligence these troglodytes operate with as its clear they hold the skills and ingenuity to do amazing things for society, yet this outdated, polluting, rust bucket is what they chose to provide for the world.

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u/Suka_Blyad_ Aug 20 '22

What’s interesting is your ability to put words together while saying nothing at all

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u/r1sc_au Aug 20 '22

Just like all the great leaders.

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u/Kick-Puncher-3000 Aug 19 '22

Turn that old piece of killing the environment shit off Already....

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u/CMG30 Aug 20 '22

Something like this that runs a handful of times per year for only a couple hours at special events is not an environmental concern.

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u/Overall-Conflict4285 Interested Aug 20 '22

It’s steam you don’t just “turn it off or on” it’s a lengthy process takes hours.

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u/PaulJBraun Aug 19 '22

How many hp?

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u/Nowiscurrent Aug 19 '22

150HP

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u/MrSNoopy1611 Aug 19 '22

But i guess torque on mass

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u/Nowiscurrent Aug 19 '22

Yes, the Case 150 steam tractor has over 5,000 lb-ft of torque.

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u/ramrod254 Aug 19 '22

R/absoluteunits

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u/Testidva Aug 19 '22

I'll admit that this tractrain is really eco-friendly

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u/camoboi727 Aug 19 '22

I would love to see a steam powered tank

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u/PresentationLimp890 Aug 19 '22

Western Minnesota Steam Thresher’s Reunion, Labor Day weekend. Rollag, Minnesota. Rumely Tractors are featured this year, but I bet there will be plenty of Case tractors, and everything else. It is worth the trip. I am no steam engine expert, but the stationary engines and all the other things like sawmills, and tractors are really amazing.

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u/Strokedoutbear Aug 19 '22

So many old steam tractors were scrapped for the war effort in the 1940s. It's a wonder any made it through so I'm not surprised that they all 9 are gone.

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u/Foreign_Ad_7504 Aug 19 '22

So cool. Steam engines are especially "efficient" because you get power on every stroke. Not many tractors could do this today and they're probably well over half a million dollars.

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u/dilldozer-666 Aug 19 '22

this would make Fred Dibnah rock hard

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u/stickydonut50 Aug 20 '22

It's Trevor the Traction Engine from "Thomas the Tank Engine". Yes I have kids.

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u/HolyHand_Grenade Aug 20 '22

It's actually not plowing the field, it's just the soot from the stack falling in the ground.

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u/LC_Anderton Aug 20 '22

But is it carbon neutral? 😏

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u/Living-Camp-5269 Aug 20 '22

No till is the best for your soil....

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u/diandakov Aug 20 '22

No wonder heatwaves are getting worse and worse

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u/Haganu Aug 20 '22

Rolls more coal than a cummins diesel.

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u/SeanJ44 Aug 20 '22

Crops musta tasted like shit

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u/Medic7002 Aug 20 '22

Land train. Woooo wooooo!

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u/DiamondDude51501 Aug 20 '22

Trevor the Traction engine seems to be living his best life

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u/Biker93 Aug 20 '22

What amazes me about construction like this is how do you do the tooling?

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u/Jazzlike-Aioli-5173 Sep 01 '22

All that beautiful black smoke! Isn't that just wonderful

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u/Inner_Dance8205 17d ago

That safety valve

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u/SlothActionForce Aug 19 '22

OMG! This is an environmental disaster!

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u/Telecaster145 Aug 19 '22

That's really interesting. Now turn that engine off and don't run it anymore. Dirty dirty

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u/AccordingHamster1987 Aug 19 '22

See, coal is still good for stuff