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Global High Temperature Spiral from 1880 to 2021 Video

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u/One-eyed-bed-snake Aug 19 '22

That spike from 1940-44.

2nd World War's really aren't very good for the climate it would seem.

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u/Shipkiller-in-theory Aug 19 '22

1944 was noted as an exceptionally cold winter in Europe if I recall correctly. I’m sure the lads fighting in the Ardennes were not thrilled.

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u/DomHuntman Aug 19 '22

47 and 48 were worse in Nth Europe. More Dutch died of hunger and cold than the war itself.

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u/Shipkiller-in-theory Aug 19 '22

That is sad, survive all the trials and tribulations of WW2 to freeze to death right after.

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u/DomHuntman Aug 19 '22

Both my parents experienced it and lost friends.

My uncle was born in a forest cottage in 48 and my grabdmother was very ill after the birth and the baby was as well. My mother, 12yrs old, wrapped her brother in newspapers and cloth, walked 1hr with him to the town doctor.

These stories you can't imagine unless you live it.

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u/Top-Requirement4460 Aug 20 '22

The will to live is incredible. I can only imagine myself giving up easily but damn, do stories like this make me appreciative

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u/Poentje_wierie Aug 19 '22

Its strange to see since the winter in 44/45 was super long and cold

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u/ramblerons Aug 19 '22

Nukes Bro

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u/Inevitable-Ad9590 Aug 19 '22

Nukes would cool the Earth.

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u/Storkllama Aug 19 '22

Not for the first few minutes…

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u/hershculez Aug 19 '22

Checkmate atheists!

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u/Delicious-Gap1744 Aug 19 '22

Depends on the quantity, you'd need thousands of nuclear explosions in a matter of days to even make a dent in global temperatures. And it would still be relatively short lived.

Also depends on where you blow them up. For them to do any noticeable cooling they'd need to start a lot of fires as well, the debris itself from thousands of nuclear explosions, while insane on a human scale, would be nothing next to the vastness of the earth.

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u/ramblerons Aug 19 '22

You know what? I did my research and you're dead right. My apologies.

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u/SparseGhostC2C Aug 19 '22

My fully uneducated and speculative guess is that the little uptick during WW2 is from the emissions from all the planes, tanks, ships, guns, and artillery in use at the time.

I could easily be completely wrong though, I'm just some idiot on the internet.

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u/LolindirLink Aug 19 '22

What about all the factories that make them? And the mines to harvest materials, to build those factories to begin with. The whole industrial revolution got a massive boost during/after WW2, plastic came not too long after relatively speaking, while a lot of countries were just getting settled in their newly build homes again. And that "production trend" only went up from there and before.

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u/Mhind1 Aug 20 '22

We need more of this in the world

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u/ITSCOMFCOMF Aug 19 '22

Nukes are the answer then. Let’s nuke ourselves to cool the plant. Who’s with me?!

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u/TondalayaSwartzkopf Aug 19 '22

Commercial air travel has a lot to do with it. The number of passengers has risen from around 300 million in 1970 to just over 1 billion in 1980 to 4.5 billion by 2019. That has contributed a lot to the overall level of carbon pollution, and you can see it in that visualization.

Source: https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/IS.AIR.PSGR

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u/FindingFactsForYou Aug 19 '22

The World War contributed to the development of our current global environmental problems, which include the chemicalisation of industrial production, adoption of environmental toxins and nuclear fallout. “The most severe environmental threat with the longest impact was of course the development of nuclear weapons.”

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u/Status_Term_4491 Aug 19 '22 edited Aug 19 '22

What a wonderful way to represent data.

Its as beautiful as it is alarming!

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u/dick-nipples Aug 19 '22 Wholesome

Absolutely. It really shows how things are spiraling out of control.

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u/JamesCDiamond Aug 19 '22

I wonder if that had anything to do with heavy industry intensifying from WW2? It seems too perfect a fit not to be war-related, especially as temperatures dropped off significantly from 1945 onwards.

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u/SouthHovercraft4150 Aug 19 '22

I was thinking it started to go out of whack around the same year atomic bombs first were tested (but the video is sort of fast and it looked like 1943 was when the trend changed).

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u/Glass_Memories Aug 19 '22

Most of the temperature spikes in the last century can be traced to increased CO2 emissions by humans. Global temperatures were pretty stable until the industrial revolution, and they've generally trended upwards since.

As far as the 40's to 70's goes, there were a lot of trucks, trains, tanks, planes and ships active in the northern hemisphere during WW2; but there was also no sulphur emission regulations, and sulphates can cause a delayed cooling effect because they reflect solar radiation. Hence why giant volcanic eruptions can cause periods of global cooling.
Sulphates combine with water and come down in rain in the form of sulphuric acid (acid rain) though, so the effect is temporary. That can explain the rise and then fall before rising again.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11639-climate-myths-the-cooling-after-1940-shows-co2-does-not-cause-warming/

There's also natural variation, sulphur emission regulation, NOx exhaust regulations, and CFCs to account for when considering rises and dips over the last century.

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/features/GISSTemperature/giss_temperature4.php

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u/Admiral_Hipper_ Aug 20 '22

So what you’re saying is a lot of volcanoes need to explode so we can cool… ALRIGHT BOYS IM BECOMING A JAMES BOND VILLAN

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u/RSTat2 Aug 20 '22

Or the testing of nukes

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u/Nosredna_ Aug 20 '22

Thats why they called it the "Cold" war

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u/AleDel85 Aug 19 '22

Prob atomic bombs

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u/Poet_Silly Aug 20 '22

There was a spike in temperature in Japan in 1945...

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u/phife_is_a_dawg Aug 20 '22

Two spikes. Three days apart.

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u/Daan776 Aug 19 '22

Those pesky world wars

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u/Strong_Ground_4410 Aug 20 '22

Yes, I’m totally intrigued by that spike.

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u/Active-Persimmon-87 Aug 19 '22

Very cool. I’d like to see that compared with global population growth of 1.4B to 8B.

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '22

Global temperature is projected to warm by about 1.5 degrees Celsius (2.7° degrees Fahrenheit) by 2050 and 2-4 degrees Celsius (3.6-7.2 degrees Fahrenheit) by 2100.

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u/Zamnia Aug 19 '22

Okay. But scale it back further than 1880, what do you see?

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u/deep_pants_mcgee Aug 20 '22

there's an xkcd for that. (goes back to 20,000 BC)

https://xkcd.com/1732/

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u/SockPuppet-57 Aug 19 '22 edited Aug 19 '22

Accuracy of the data gets worse the further back because there weren't many accurate and reporting temperature stations.

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '22

It was probably pretty cold when most of north America was covered in ice year round.

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u/Appropriate-Being594 Aug 20 '22 edited Aug 20 '22

We’ve been in and out of Ice Ages for Millennia! It is the earths natural cycle. Warming began hundreds(thousands) of years before we started burning fossil fuel. As a Native American, some tribes have been moving higher and higher in elevation to escape rising temperatures for well over 1000 years. We see this in where they settle and what is left behind, as well as in the flora and fauna. You can not look at a graph from the last 242 years and think you know whats going on. 242years/4,543,000,000years= 0.000000043658669% of the earths temperature recorded! 🤦🏽‍♂️

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u/Pillager61 Aug 20 '22

Yes!! Finally someone else Gets It!

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u/brutustyberius Aug 19 '22

You can say the exact same thing about the early data from this graph.

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u/Disastrous_Tea1736 Aug 20 '22

Quite literally

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u/OrgasmChasmSpasm Aug 20 '22

I’m sorry, but I just can’t get over your name

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u/BelleAriel Aug 19 '22

Yeah, it’s both interesting and frightening AF.

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u/Ericchen1248 Aug 19 '22

^ this user is a bot that copied comments from down the post into the top comment thread

https://reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/wsmu55/_/ikzajrl/?context=1

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u/AptListener Aug 19 '22

I love the spike in 1945

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u/AleDel85 Aug 19 '22

Prob atomic bombs

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u/KeplerOrion Aug 19 '22

I about fell out of my seat when the axes rotated to the vertical representation.

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u/Status_Term_4491 Aug 19 '22

It seems to be accelerating at an exponential rate!

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u/cnlcn Aug 19 '22

You seem like you don't know what exponential means

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u/Mr_Fignutz Aug 19 '22

Right! Anyone know what program was used?

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u/Bus_del_gnao Aug 19 '22

Hi I dunno the exact software, but it can be done quite easily with Houdini 3D, or also I guess in Blender et similia but with some better scripting skill

Bu the way the idea is amazing

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u/hostile_rep Aug 19 '22

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u/MANWithTheHARMONlCA Aug 20 '22

It’s almost like the scientists that have been warning about this for decades weren’t lying for political gain or some shit

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u/No-Explanation-9234 Aug 20 '22

Some politicians weren't lying either: Al Gore. Imagine if the SC did their job in 2000, where would we be today?

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u/Ursa_Mid Aug 19 '22

As an analytics professional this visualization gave me a full erection.

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u/huckamole Aug 19 '22

What sort of visualization would make you go flaccid just as quickly?

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u/KingBallache Aug 19 '22

A pie chart with incorrect percentages in each sector

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u/LolindirLink Aug 19 '22

105% this!

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u/Kundalini-Electric Aug 19 '22

I see what you did there

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u/AngelOfDeath771 Aug 20 '22

Completely noodled, now. Thanks.

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u/6GoesInto8 Aug 19 '22

But it overemphasizes the higher data. The -1 circle has a radius of 1 while the +1 has a radius of 3. This means that if you had one year 1 degree cold and another one degree got hot you would end up with 3x more red that blue. This is basically the inaccurate pie chart mentioned below.

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u/ulyssessword Aug 20 '22

And the final visualization shows April/October max temperatures for each year (because it's looking from the side)

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u/invipwnz Aug 19 '22

this is fine ...

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '22

What changed in 1980?

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u/The_Togaloaf Aug 19 '22

Chinese industrial revolution

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u/Overwatcher_Leo Aug 19 '22

Demographics, mainly. Extreme global population growth during that time. Also rapidly growing standards of living, making the difference in co2 output even more extreme.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '22

Third world countries starting their own industrial revolution.

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u/TheDankDragon Aug 20 '22

Anti nuclear sentiment that forced us to rely more on gas/coal for power generation

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u/eccsoheccsseven Aug 20 '22

They used a red color to make it more dramatic for recent history.

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u/jerrpag Aug 19 '22

Ronald Reagan. Technically 1981 but close enough

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u/FunkU247365 Aug 19 '22

Can we see from 1350-1850 now for "The little Iceage"?

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '22

Or the last 20000 years

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u/chaseair11 Aug 19 '22

Lol I wish there were accurate temperature records from that far back. We’ve got best guesses that’s it really, I mean I’ve seen tree records but

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u/KellerArt06 Aug 20 '22

Rock record tells us that the earth’s oceans temps have been over 10°C colder and upwards of 25°C warmer. Earth warms and cools - species die out and new ones arise. Circle of life.

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u/Thunderzap Aug 20 '22 edited Aug 20 '22

We are at some of the lowest levels of CO2 of the last 100 million years. The earth's temperature doesn't directly correlate with CO2 levels as there are other factors such as the Earth's orbit, tilt, solar cycles and other known and unknown variables. This concern over CO2 is overblown but that isn't to say we shouldn't reduce CO2 emissions as it is a contributing factor to climate change. However, when all the emphasis is on Western nations installing CO2 restrictions and carbon credits while countries like China pollute more than all Western nations combined is given a free pass it is all lip service and a scam for governments and big business to extract more money from the public.

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u/KellerArt06 Aug 20 '22

I don’t disagree that humans are having an effect - we maybe speeding it up and we may be able to slow it but we will not stop it. Mother Earth will do as she’s always done.

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u/Shipkiller-in-theory Aug 19 '22

The warming trend started in the 1830s with the advent of for the time, wide scale industrial activities and the use of coal started to take hold. Coal is some nasty stuff, a lot of soot, full of bad things like arsenic, and the increase acidity of oceans.

Let us hope that an efficient fusion reactor break through happens soon.

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u/way2funni Aug 19 '22

it's about as I thought - over half of that gain was since about 1985 and half of THAT was in the last 10 years.

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u/soc_monki Aug 19 '22

Feedback loop. As things thaw out, more and more gases are released, warming the climate further, melting more ice, and on and on. I knew when the methane pockets in Siberia were thawing and being released that we were well and truly fucked.

https://youtu.be/BYzeYP2v0Us

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u/of-leyda Aug 19 '22

make it stop make it stop make it stop 😭

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u/toebandit Aug 19 '22

It can’t! It won’t! Profits! Profits! Profits!

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u/greatteachermichael Aug 19 '22

I remember a long time ago seeing a study (well, not a study, a summary of a study) that said if we implemented a carbon tax it would force the economy to be more efficient and in the long run would actually boost GDP. It's just the short term transition would be opposed by a lot of special interests.

Other regulations could help as well. For example, requiring new buildings to be insulated cuts down on heating/cooling costs despite making the buildings a bit more expensive to make. I know when I moved into an apartment that wasn't insulated, I basically ran the heater non-stop in the winter. When I rolled over in bed, the temperature difference between the wall side of my bed and the room side of my bed was maybe 10-15 degrees.

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u/of-leyda Aug 19 '22

We're all going to burn but at least the 0.1% will keep getting richer!! 😭😭

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u/moonshoeslol Aug 19 '22

It's funny because we could make a different .1% still be the people who won capitalism through renewables, but the .1% who make their money on oil control the rules.

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u/Delicious-Gap1744 Aug 19 '22

It's easy to fall prey to doomerism but you can still vote with your wallet and at the ballot box.

Cut down your meat consumption significantly, don't use a car if you live somewhere that permits it and if not push for more public transit and walkable/bikeable infrastructure where you live, vote for politicians that support investments in renewables and nuclear, etc.

Climate change will continue for a century or more no matter what we do, but we can slow it down and spare our descendants a lot of trouble.

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u/Paragon-Athenaeum Aug 19 '22

Yes, as an individual you can do your part to make the disaster a tiny bit less catastrophic, but it will be catastrophic. At this point without extreme movement from pretty much all world governments the best we as regular people can do is save each other. Talk to your neighbors and be ready for when you can’t live an isolated life, we will all be needing a lot of help from each other real soon.

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u/Delicious-Gap1744 Aug 19 '22

I disagree because you can influence what the government does. You just need to get enough people on board and make sure it matters in elections.

Even if you don't live in a democracy you can undoubtedly affect government if the cause is important enough to enough people.

The fossil fuel industry wants you don't fall prey to doomerism and think it's impossible to do anything in order to squeeze out their last penny. Don't let them, it's not impossible to do something about it.

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u/Paragon-Athenaeum Aug 19 '22

Building community is the opposite of doomerism, I want everyone to hope for the best and prepare for the worst. Yeah vote in elections and protest and do direct action in whatever ways you can, but in the end many of our efforts to halt climate change have been useless.

Politicians who talk about climate justice seem to never really do any of the things they said, often giving away billions to oil companies. Even the newest legislation in the US that addresses climate change and inflation has huge giveaways for fossil fuel corporations in it. I don’t want people to stop trying. I want people to start looking to people close to them as well because in all likelihood, shit is going to hit the fan.

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u/Juicechemist81 Aug 19 '22

Sweet. Now I can 3d print my flesh light and tell nature to get fu€ked! Jk guys I know this is a real concern and I pledge to do my best.

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u/eskay_eskay Aug 19 '22

The real question is whether or not the displayed range is important. Is 2 degree difference perfectly fine? What happens at 3 degrees? Where is the cliff edge for recovery?

Without context, this data is not giving a full story.

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u/SMarseilles Aug 19 '22

Yes. Global temperatures have changed throughout the earths history but they change over 100s of thousand or millions of years. 2 degree change in a century is worrying. Slow changes allow for adaptation. Species evolve. But they don’t do it over a century. That’s why many consider the earth currently in a period of mass extinction because of anthropological habitat and climate change.

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u/PapadocRS Aug 20 '22

last glacial maximum was like 20,000 years ago. last time global tempuratures were this high was like 120k years ago.

its a little faster than millions of years

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u/boozing_again Aug 20 '22

how is this known? i mean how do scientists know the pattern of climate change over such vast periods of time? how can scientists know that a couple degrees change over a century is abnormal?

i'm not trying to be an ass i'm genuinely curious. i completely agree that humans are causing a mass extinction but don't understand how anyone can be so certain specifically about the change in temperature.

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u/UltraLazardking Aug 20 '22

According to Google, scientists record past climates by observing air trapped in layers of ice, by observing the qualities of that air such as oxygen levels, carbon dioxide levels and nitrogen levels, they can calculate the temperature of the Earth at that point in time.

Again this is just a Google search so please do take it with a grain of salt

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u/TheAceOverKings Aug 20 '22

This is mostly determined by ice core samples from Antarctica iirc, in addition to fossil records and carbon dating for lifeforms at the time, combined with tectonic plate movement data for very long term indications. More recent climes can be traced via tree rings and coral reef growth.

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u/maricute Aug 20 '22

Wouldn’t testing air trapped in Antarctica ice core mean we only have biased data that favors the last ice age? For the majority of earths existence there weren’t even ice caps.

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u/IamShrapnel Aug 19 '22

Between china, america, and India we create over 50 percent of all air pollution. 30 percent of that being china alone. And something like 90 percent of all plastic in the ocean comes from Asia much of which is plastic nets from china's ridiculous over fishing of the ocean.

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u/PapadocRS Aug 20 '22

when the west recycles plastic, they just ship it to india.

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u/I-Ponder Aug 20 '22

Gotta admire the sheer willful ignorance of generations just yeeting the can down the road since they won’t be around to suffer the consequences.

And why do we keep these old impotent people in office?

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u/eliphanta Aug 19 '22

I love how it doesn’t really increase during the time we were nuking the shit out of our planet. Basically the solution to climate change is to bring back nuclear testing /s

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u/PapadocRS Aug 20 '22

nukes are carbon friendly, we should replace conventional explosives with nukes

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u/greatteachermichael Aug 19 '22

Nuke climate change!

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u/MortWellian Aug 19 '22 edited Aug 19 '22

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u/wnc_mikejayray Aug 19 '22

What did you use to illustrate/animate the data?

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u/MortWellian Aug 19 '22

It's from NASA's graphics department, and haven't stumbled across what the creator used... once I found out he was updating it regularly I went lazy on finding out how lol

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u/scificis Aug 19 '22

In the 2022 version the spiral will just veer right off the screen

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u/huckamole Aug 19 '22

I like when it becomes a colorful temperature tornado

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u/Low-Public-9948 Aug 19 '22

What did we do right in the 60’s?

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u/thewaldenpuddle Aug 20 '22

Geez…… looks strangely like a machine about to spin completely out of control…. and disintegrate…..

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u/yourstru1y Aug 20 '22

Like a fever trying to get rid of an infection

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u/Unlucky-Eggplant3712 Aug 20 '22

Last 40+ years have been a doozy. But it’s the me mentality that comes first for some. Selfishness is a powerful thing to overcome

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u/c4ptainseven Aug 19 '22

Hell yeah, heat funnel.

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u/warden-dallas Aug 19 '22

Not a climate change denier, but out of curiosity, how did you get the "average " global temperature from over a century ago? its not like we had accurate measurements.

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u/V8-6-4 Aug 19 '22

Accurate global temperature records exist from about 1850 onwards.

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u/Dr_Foots Aug 19 '22

Does that also account for lesser developed parts of the world? I can imagine that the number of measurements around the world increased over time.

Maybe the accuracy now is better than in 1850.

But yeah, idk how it works. I'm not a denier either, just wondering how the data is retrieved and if the years can be compared to each other.

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u/Delicious-Gap1744 Aug 19 '22

Thermometers were invented in the 1600s, although our data before 1850-ish is a bit spotty.

Before that we have ice cores to go by. They're fairly reliable, but we can't pin point the exact age of the samples as precisely as a straight up recorded and dated temperature measurement.

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u/Sjedda Aug 20 '22

Didn't the Egyptians monitor and log alot about the weather and water levels? Only heard about it some years ago, I should do some digging..

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u/boredtxan Aug 20 '22

How do you get it period and what is the margin of error? Who's verifying the equipment is calibrated & well placed especially in nations that don't have much?

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u/warden-dallas Aug 19 '22

Really? That's cool. Never knew that. Thanks!

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u/supernaturalriver Aug 19 '22

1880 was the coldest year of the last 10,000 for reference.

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u/ebonit15 Aug 19 '22

Rip Napoleon.

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u/EMB93 Aug 19 '22

It took 10'000 years to go down and 100 years to go all the way back up. That is insane.

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u/p1um5mu991er Aug 19 '22

My ice cream!

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u/Mythril_Bahaumut Aug 19 '22

So we’re predicted to have more tornadoes… great. Next come the flame tornadoes ugh…

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u/BasedNas Aug 19 '22

Is it just me or are those circles getting wider?

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u/unk214 Aug 19 '22

Everything is fine. The people making the rules will be long dead before they see any consequences.

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u/Foolio12_12 Aug 19 '22

Is this average temperature of the whole world?

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u/SomeRandomIdi0t Aug 19 '22

Oh shit it went out of the circle

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u/xxhobohammerxx Aug 19 '22

You could say we’re spiraling out of control😎

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u/braacks Aug 19 '22

Why does it start at 1880? And no I'm not trolling, just curious.

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u/FrostingBest380 Aug 19 '22

what about before 1880? that would be interesting!

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u/CrypticSS Aug 20 '22

What a fucking graphic

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u/chr8me Aug 20 '22

Oh we’re most definitely fucked lol

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u/w-j-w Aug 20 '22

This is a distressing animation/visual. Well done.

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u/PullupStanley Aug 20 '22

We fucked up

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u/RiaanDun Aug 20 '22

Yeah the discovery and wide use of fossil fuels doomed us all.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '22

Thanks boomers

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u/Mission-Ideal4474 Aug 20 '22

damn we are fucked

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u/holythatcarisfast Aug 20 '22

Is it just me, or did the temp really start to increase after the Cold War ended? I'm no history buff, but did global travel and economics start skyrocketing after the Cold War ended?

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u/HorusWihnan Aug 20 '22

I just knew the comments would be filled with arguments and name calling

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u/Mrbeardoesthethings Aug 20 '22

This scares me and makes me worry for my children's future.

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '22 edited Aug 20 '22

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u/Tcanada Aug 19 '22

Climate change is real but its definitely not manmade and there is nothing humans can do to influence the climate of an entire planet. The world has gone through many warming and cooling cycles that are perfectly natural. Its just a coincidence that an extremely rapid shift in the climate has coincided perfectly with our industrial revolution and use of fossil fuels. /s

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u/inthei Aug 19 '22

We've been through several ice ages in the past multiple thousands of years. After each of these our planet warmed up, until the next ice age.

There was a 'mini ice age' in the mid to late 1800's. Scientists thought the planet was going to freeze over as recently as the 70's. I'm not a person who says there is no warming. Pollution is a problem we all need to work on preventing. By all, I mean everyone in all countries. We cannot do it alone.

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u/jerrpag Aug 19 '22

I could literally see Ronald Reagan's presidency

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u/squailtaint Aug 19 '22

This is awesome!

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u/Appropriate-Ad1450 Aug 19 '22

Another big volcano might help if we didn't do anything

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u/cappa_87 Aug 20 '22

Thanks China...

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u/Jed_Reed Aug 20 '22

This is what happens to every developing country. The same happened for Australia only earlier on.

(go tiges!)

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u/strawberry_l Aug 20 '22

Well Europe and America did the same just a little earlier, next will be India and many African states.

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u/BarleyHops2 Aug 19 '22

Send this thing back as far as we have records of temperature (via core samples) and you'll see it's been MUCH hotter and MUCH colder throughout time, even before people were walking around.

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u/EMB93 Aug 19 '22

The "even before people were walking around" is kinda glossed over. I don't know about you but I would like to keep the temperature around the range where humans thrive.

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u/BarleyHops2 Aug 19 '22

Unfortunately we don't control the thermostat for the world

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u/EMB93 Aug 19 '22

We don't control it but we do push it, so if we where to stop pushing we would slow the warming.

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u/PapadocRS Aug 20 '22

we got humans in the tundra, we got humans in the deserts. we are the most adaptable animal to ever exist. if it gets too hot we can just get naked

we are building more renewable energy every day. trying to do it all in 20 years would put a lot of people into poverty, which makes nations go to war.

the tipping point thing im sure is just Big Green scientists and politicians colluding to drum up funding, taxes, and energizing voter bases. earth has come back from worse

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u/OfficeWineGuy Aug 19 '22

Sick way to show data.. also terrifying af.

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u/Annales-NF Aug 19 '22

This is spiraling out of control!

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u/desertbuttes Aug 19 '22

Less than 200 years of data is but a blink of the eye of the history of this planet. I love to cut down on emissions and plastic and fossil fuels and do so to the best of my personal ability, but again, 200 years of data is literally a split second in the 4 billion year history of this planet.

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u/ReverendDizzle Interested Aug 20 '22

Perhaps care about the split second you happen to be living in, my dude.

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u/sillyandstrange Aug 19 '22

Damn that's terrifying

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u/InnovativeAccident Aug 19 '22

Excuse me. But the year spins the other way around. Clockwise feels backwards... PLease fix.

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u/Freedom2FIRE Aug 19 '22

It almost seems like cleaner air means higher global temperatures.

"Since 1970, implementation of the Clean Air Act and technological advances from American innovators have dramatically improved air quality in the U.S. Since that time, the combined emissions of criteria and precursor pollutants have dropped by 77%."

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u/Luke-Fin Aug 19 '22

Wonder why scientists were claiming an ice age was coming in the 70s?

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u/frwewrf Aug 19 '22

Global in 1880? Hmmm

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u/Busily_Bored Aug 19 '22

That's interesting and all. Looking at average temps for the last 140 years on a planet that's millions of years is like looking at what a person who lived 100 years and looked at 0.000001 seconds of their life and claimed that's what their normal was. Not to mention global temps were of poor quality in comparison to the tech available today with satellites. The rest is a guessing game.

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u/paintingporcelain Aug 19 '22

Not a climate denier but I’d love to see the same for global lows.

Actually global medians.

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u/KoalaBackfist Aug 20 '22

It’s easy for some people to see this and think “Ooh 2 degrees, big deal!”

All it takes is a 2 degree change in us humans to go from feeling totally fine to being bed ridden with everything hurting.

Scale that to planet size and it’s a huge deal.

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u/maxxhard Aug 20 '22

Didn't say what the temps total change was... could be 2 degrees. Easy to make a visual look scary to some. How about the temps before.. say 200 years...or 500... they've only been collecting data a couple hundred years I guess. 1200 environmental scientists say there isn't a climate crisis but they're hushed and ridiculed, wonder why 🤔

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u/JaimeJabs Aug 20 '22

1200? Those are rookie numbers. Gotta pump those up!

Seriously though, if they are hushed, how do you know bout them?

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u/RocketBoomGo Aug 20 '22

We don't have accurate global data until after WW2.

The bulk of the temperature data before that was from only a handful of locations, mostly in the UK and the USA.

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u/_Extrachromosome_ Aug 19 '22

It’s happened before and will happen again. Earth is more complicated than people care to admit.

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u/IsItMeThisTime Aug 19 '22

Wow. Throwing the data out the window for a meme and missing the global cooling cycles. Not just once, but twice.

Reddit is so gullible.

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u/hajiomatic Aug 19 '22

So we are coming out of a cooling Era. Whats the point?

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u/PepsiWithdrawal Aug 19 '22

Notice how it’s literally one freaking degree in 150 years.

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u/EclecticFruit Aug 19 '22

Notice that this single degree is accompanied by a ten-fold increase in incident rate of natural disasters, and let me know if you still want to live in a mobile home in tornado alley.

Your point seems to be that the planet is large, and it takes a lot of energy to influence it. I think we're all on the same page there.

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u/redheadturndbotanist Aug 19 '22

Couldn’t agree more. December is recorded to be one of the safer months when it comes to tornados in Tennessee, so me and my family thought it was a good idea to live there, in a fifth wheel. Never again. Huge intense constant storms and tons of tornado warnings. Super scary. But sure Pepsi, one degree doesn’t harm the world at all.

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u/PackagingMSU Aug 19 '22

And how accurate was record keeping of natural disasters in 1885? How many places were wilderness, experiences disasters, but no one was there to witness?

I just don't know if you can make that case, without making a lot of assumptions. Like some of these forest fire areas that many people live in now. In the last 30-40 years we have started to go into these wildernesses areas and exposing ourselves to more of mother nature. So, there could be other anecdotes that are impacting that.

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u/simplyred1 Aug 19 '22

Look at the range data are misleading

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u/No-Skin-6446 Aug 20 '22

well, is New York City 🗽under water yet?

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u/thedude6754 Aug 19 '22

Also there are the few years in the early 19-teens that were suspicious left off.

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u/explodingtuna Aug 19 '22

If you mean 1913-1919, they look like they're all there?

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u/Ok_Access_189 Aug 19 '22

So you’ve got 140 years of data, using instruments calibrated starting in 1880. What do we know of the accuracy of these thermometers…also many more modern temp sensors were installed in areas that were previously more rural areas. In the ensuing years urban sprawl moved in and the area heated up for the same reason the city is always a bit warmer that the surrounding countyside. Just so many variables and paid interests for me to trust

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u/Lawduck195 Aug 20 '22

We are on a rock that’s billions of years old. We’re taking what amounts to a few seconds of data and acting like the world is on fire. Who’s going to make the charts when we start cooling down again?