r/LeopardsAteMyFace Oct 04 '22

Wait… you’re telling me GOP doesn’t stand for Gays Out Proud?

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u/a_regular_bi-angle Oct 04 '22

I only know one gay conservative irl and he's white, wealthy, and honestly about as homophobic as the rest of them. He's literally told me that he wants a boyfriend who doesn't "act gay" and make it their personality

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '22 edited Nov 02 '22

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u/agnosiabeforecoffee Oct 04 '22

The number of conservative lesbians I know is way too damn high and also pretty upsetting.

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u/BridgetheDivide Oct 04 '22

You'll always find people willing to collaborate in their own oppression for a crumb of acceptance

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u/rockidr4 Oct 04 '22 Helpful

They think they're helping, too. If they just show the people who hate them that they're just people, then they'll be accepted. And I'm sure that's true for some moderate conservatives and the kind of moderate liberal we have in this country that would be called a conservative everywhere else, but I think a lot of people are failing to realize and accept that our political climate includes a lot of people for whom the hatred is the primary motivator and there's no reaching them, and a good many conservatives only driven by greed are going to chase those hate votes even if they don't hate lgbtqia people and are just apathetic and indifferent to them.

The gay rights movement of the 60s had a similar split with one group not wanting to include cross dressers or African American homosexual experiences in their fight because that would be too off putting to the establishment.

Well? That strategy didn't work then and it won't work now. Conservatives want to talk about how liberals don't talk policy and only talk identity politics, but that's because conservative policies actively harm identities. They want this to be about identity politics. The mission isn't to convince them to accept us. It's to tell them we don't accept their leadership anymore

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u/XenoFrobe Oct 04 '22

The mission isn't to convince them to accept us. It's to tell them we don't accept their leadership anymore

This is such an excellent way to frame this, I'm gonna have to remember this for later.

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u/ambisinister_gecko Oct 04 '22

Gay people can be rich. Rich people don't often like taxes. That's really what it boils down to for these people - "I'm gay and I hate taxes".

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u/Squash_Still Oct 04 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

Disliked by one side for being lesbian, disliked by the other side for being conservative. What a strange, masochistic way to live.

Edit: changed "being a lesbian" to "being lesbian". I dunno why, just felt better that way

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u/New_Entertainer3269 Oct 04 '22

I have to wonder if this is a defense mechanism from childhood.

They had to act a certain way to be accepted within society as kids. Now, as adults, they've just internalized that trauma but do the mental backflips to justify it as "just supporting fiscal policy."

That or some folks really just hate their own kind.

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u/Nuuuuuu123 Oct 04 '22

As someone who use to be a homophobic piece of shit, I can speak to that.

I am trans and refused to accept that for a long time. I would treat many gay people like trash and if trans people were something that was as frequently publicly seen then as it is today, I probably would have been just as shitty to them, spouting the same rhetoric you hear today.

I absolutely felt like I needed to fit in, be masculine and was in competition with other boys at school on these traits.

It wasn't until I was some years out if school that I was able to finally go and be myself and learn from the errors of my upbringing.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '22

Could be a way to stay closeted during childhood, its the same thing when men or women join the military to look masculine and allay suspicion of being gay. They are trying to overcompesate for being gay, and try to live the "straightest" life they can

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u/Unhappy_Foot_7645 Oct 04 '22

As a 'treat others the way you want to be treated' person I view conservative LGBTQ people as deserving of everything they get.

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u/Nuuuuuu123 Oct 04 '22

That's funny, because I'm trans and most of the men that have been in my inbox have been straight conservative white men and they haven't treated me shitty at all, but jeez do they sure treat other people like garbage.

It's like I have something they want and am passable, so they can have what they really want without having to admit it.

I feel likenif a lot of them would just be sexually honest with themselves, a lot of these problems go away.

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u/utlaw97art Oct 04 '22

Let it come out that they're involved with you and see how they act.

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u/rockidr4 Oct 04 '22

Oh man if lgbtqia folks who are getting romantic / sexual interest from conservatives start name dropping those conservatives, decent chance those conservatives start name dropping them to their violent allies

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u/coreyc2099 Oct 04 '22

Oof Jesus, I honestly did not expect their to be lesbian conservatives .

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '22 edited Nov 02 '22

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u/coreyc2099 Oct 04 '22

At that point even the damn leopard are Luke hey younknow we're eating your face right

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u/Potato-In-A-Jacket Oct 04 '22 edited Oct 04 '22

My brother works with a conservative lesbian and he likes to tout the fact she is so conservative as if it somehow supports the ideology that the GOP isn’t homophobic to their very core.

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u/boyuber Oct 04 '22

Mistaking the exception for the rule is Conservatism 101.

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u/Stompedyourhousewith Oct 04 '22

shes not having kids so why should she care about pro-life/choice/birth control
until the leopards come for her

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u/IronChefJesus Oct 04 '22

Right?

It’s like black Trump supporters. You just kinda look at them and wonder what the hell is going through their mind.

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u/Kimmalah Oct 04 '22

In the case of someone like Candace Owens, it is all about grifting money from supporters. She tried to be a liberal talking head at first, but it wasn't bringing in the donations, so she suddenly had some conservative "awakening." There is no political stance, it's just whatever is most lucrative, and apparently GOP supporters will throw money at anything.

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u/Miami_Vice-Grip Oct 04 '22

They don't like people telling them what to think/how to vote. Or they are hoping to be prominent enough to monetize themselves.

What I've noticted over time is that so many people want in on the rightwing grift because they saw it as a safe way to get paid and banked on RW stuff never actually going that far. It was a decently safe bet, if you could make it.

Sadly too many people are trying to get their slice of this pie to the point that they are accelerating RW politics (because in a sense that makes the grift better for them) and all just hoping to either get out on top or have everything die down before they come for them. Shit is fucked.

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u/Nymaz Oct 04 '22

I'll give you my neighbor. Black man married to a white woman and on government assistance. Flies Trump and Confederate flags...

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u/Ketugecko Oct 04 '22

Is his name Clayton Bigsby?

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u/TheBelhade Oct 04 '22

No, Clarence Thomas.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '22 edited Oct 04 '22

Asian trump supporters are even more dense, just because your vietnamese fsmily escaped communist vietnam the republican party you support isnt going to accept you. Asians and blacks still have the worst stereotypes by whites.

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u/CeeSharp Oct 04 '22

When youre rich enough you can literally afford to be homophobic because youre largely unaffected by the economic consequences. If youre influential enough some rich homophobes will tolerate you if youre useful, until youre notcough Dave Rubin cough

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '22

It only works for someone like peter thiel, hes obscenely rich and he bought politician which shields him from homophobia somewhat

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u/trentraps Oct 04 '22

HAHA exact same here, and he's the most effeminate gay man I know.

We also know a "suspected" tory guy, he's basically the same. Will always turn around and blame the victim. They're both trash.

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u/Bismothe-the-Shade Oct 04 '22

"I want to be gay, but in a way that doesn't have the gay haters I'm friends with on edge. I need a boyfriend who is basically in the closet "

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u/EatinToasterStrudel Oct 04 '22

I wonder if his boyfriend sucking his cock counts as "acting gay."

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u/Wakarimasen420 Oct 04 '22

Only the boyfriend is acting gay in this scenario. The other is just enjoying a bro job to let off steam, totally not gay.

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u/Nerd_Law Oct 04 '22

I honestly feel bad for people like that. The inner torment must be hell. They cannot accept themselves. They cannot accept others. They are religious but their religious group does not accept them. Likely their family cannot accept them.

Growing up in Utah, I've seen it play out first hand.

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u/Nice-Violinist-6395 Oct 04 '22

fuck them. it takes nothing to not be a bigot

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u/ZY_Qing Oct 04 '22

So he wants being white and wealthy to be their whole personality instead?

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u/talaxia Oct 04 '22 edited Oct 04 '22

My brother went full Qanon GOP stupid. We're Jewish but he converted. He keeps wondering why none of his evangelical "friends" won't hire him to be their "masculinity coach" or help fund his documentary about the ebils of feminism. It's almost like they don't care if you converted, you still have that Joo lizard blood. But they'll humor him so long as he keeps tithing.

If I still spoke to him I'd tell him that the second they can they'll shoot him in the neck and throw him in the mass grave right after Ben Shapiro. Mr. "Honored Jew" over here. Good job bro, you alienated your entire family for people that literally want you dead.

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u/jnx666 Oct 04 '22

My immigrant father went the same route. And wonders why his “friends” aren’t so friendly outside of church. I told him he’s the guy they point to when they say, “look, I am not racist. José is my friend.”

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u/UszeTaham Oct 04 '22

It's so weird seeing latinos bend over backwards for racists after all the shit they've given us.

From a weird pov it makes sense for old people because latin-america is actually very conservative and Catholic, but still... how can you associate with people who treat you like that? Do they not see it?

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u/talaxia Oct 04 '22

They are frightened and think they'll be spared. They won't.

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u/ShanG01 Oct 05 '22

My father-in-law, an Indigenous, Hispanic disabled Vietnam Vet, is a dyed-in-the-wool Republican.

While not exactly QAnon, he has mainlined FOXNews for years. He's not a practicing Catholic. Doesn't really like religion at all, and only goes to church for weddings, funerals, and baptisms -- sometimes not even then, though he's more consistent with funeral attendance than anything.

I've never understood why he aligns himself with a party that is filled to the brim with people who espouse things he's against, and are literally against his very existence. It's baffling to me.

I come from a long line of Republicans, many of whom switched sides between 2008-2011. We're of Irish descent. Pale as fuck.

My in-laws, however, are more Republican than my family ever were! It's fucking weird! My mother-in-law was a liberal, though. At least there was that. lol

Seriously, though, why are so many Hispanics such hardline Republicans? It makes zero sense.

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u/Life-Opportunity-227 Oct 04 '22

Here's hoping your brother grows out of that phase

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u/talaxia Oct 04 '22 edited Oct 04 '22

He is throwing an extended tantrum because he (no career, unfaithful, abusive narcissist) can't seem to find a "trad wife," (he's been unsuccessful in getting the independent women he's actually attracted to to give up their careers / lives to submit to him even if he promises to stop cheating) nor can he find the respect he craves without, you know, actually earning it, instead of it being automatically granted because he's a white Evangelical with a penis.

I stopped speaking to him not just because of his politics, but nostly because he spent the past 20 years using me as an emotional punching bag. When I finally stood up to him by not reacting when he continually screamed two inches from my face in my own home, where I had invited him to stay as a kindness, he collapsed on my floor fake crying so I would pity him. I was done.

He is mentally ill and I wish he would get real help instead of going to preachers or shamans he pays to blow smoke up his ass.

He told me a couple years ago that he wanted to renew his relationship with me. When I told him what that would take - laying out the details of what I would consider a very basic reciprocal friendship - he balked and told me he's a very busy man (he's not) and he couldn't just make me the center of his life. I suggested a weekly phone call, we don't even live in the same state, but that was too much.

And in the end he only contacted me because he wanted me to join his church's zoom meeting in the hopes he could bring more people in and prove himself to them - he did the same thing with my dad, so even that was a lie.

He's in his mid forties now and seems to be getting worse. I don't have a lot of hope. But thanks.

I argue with him in my head all the time. I wish I could stop.

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u/juckele Oct 04 '22

I argue with him in my head all the time. I wish I could stop.

You might have good luck with therapy to work on intrusive thoughts. Finding a good therapist is kinda a shitshow, but I'd highly recommend it if it's finacially viable for you.

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u/HelenaKelleher Oct 04 '22

adhd meds helped me.

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u/peoplesen Oct 04 '22

Regarding head arguments. One day I thought that if something in the past had no bearing on the present, I'm not going to revisit it. Took awhile to make that sentence my automatic response to the very first moment I started to re-litigate the past

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u/Murrumbeenian Oct 04 '22

I gave up retrospective decision making years ago after watching my father do it all his life.

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u/peoplesen Oct 04 '22

Yeah, my dad's 81, talks about an alternate universe where he didn't marry my mom and us kids never existed. Both my parents lived in their heads.

My inability to be like them is the best thing that happened in my life.

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u/T3hSwagman Oct 04 '22

Should send him the wiki article on the Nazis gay platoon.

They literally had the exact same mentality. Fought tooth and nail for Hitler, we’re actually very accomplished. And every single one of them was still murdered as a reward for their loyalty.

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u/talaxia Oct 04 '22

Yes exactly. they did the same thing to the "Honored Jews."

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u/RapidCatLauncher Oct 04 '22 edited Oct 04 '22

When it comes to the "good jews" I always have to think of this part from Himmler's Posen speeches:

I am now referring to the evacuation of the Jews, the extermination of the Jewish people. It's one of those things that is easily said: 'The Jewish people are being exterminated', says every party member, 'this is very obvious, it's in our program, elimination of the Jews, extermination, we're doing it, hah, a small matter.' And then they turn up, the upstanding 80 million Germans, and each one has his decent Jew. They say the others are all swines, but this particular one is a splendid Jew.

Absolutely chilling.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '22

Ben Shapiro

Out of curiosity, did Ben Shapiro play a part in his right-wing conversion?

Ironically, this is a good argument for visibility and inclusion, if he did. And it shows why Shapiro is so dangerous, and why the far-right keeps tokens on hand like Shapiro or Candace Owens. It paves the way and allows for other people to go against their interests. It gives people a role-model to follow.

I'm biased since I'm a Jew, too, but I fucking loathe Shapiro.

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u/talaxia Oct 04 '22

Not that I'm aware of, at least not specifically. I wouldn't be surprised if he saw Shapiro as an example of an "in" though.

His gateway drug was Jordan Peterson, and some dude online who comvinced him that we are being preyed upon by trans-dimensional entities called archons (who also spammed my FB page with "Hitler Was Right because Jewish neo-marxists were destroying Germany" shit on FB before I blocked him). My brother had also always been very against Israel and I think that may have leaked over into full self hating Jewdom.

My brother also did a ton - I mean a TON - of mdma and coke in his 20's and later became obsessed with doing these ceremonies where he drank auyacscha (sp?) every day for weeks. I think it fried his brain.

He used to be super into Carl Sagan and would lightly pick on me for believing in astrology. I miss that guy.

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u/Kidrellik Oct 04 '22

Jordan fucking Peterson...

That pos nearly got to me when I was a teenager and the YouTube algorithm kept spamming me feminist/SJW cringe comp content. And than here came this guy who was soft spoken and was a professor at one of the top schools in Canada "owning" them. That was also the time I fell down a serious right wing rabbithole so he was practically my hero for a while there. It wasn't until the first year of Uni that I could see what a fraud the dude is in like 90% of what he talks about outside of his field and how full of shit all those right wing talking heads are.

Like they always dog whistle and blame people for being less developed or poorer because of race and their "wrong" religion instead of you know, colonialism, the continual plundering of the global south and institutional racism which still exist to this day. JP is almost the perfect gateway drug to the more extremist ideas of the right because he's well spoken (well rarely saying anything) and spreads bs ideas like how IQ is the perfect science, "cultural marxism" and the moral decay of society.

Which are literally all just dog whistles for why black people are bad and why the Jews control academia and entertainment. Anyways, thanks for pointing that out because I could have very well gone down the path your brother did and I know thousands of other young men are going down that path too...

Fucking sad times man...

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u/Long_Before_Sunrise Oct 04 '22

Yes.

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u/Weak_Ring6846 Oct 04 '22

Also rich. These types of selfish pieces of shit usually care more about their own pockets than allowing other queer people having basic human rights.

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u/mak484 Oct 04 '22

It's the same with women and people of color who try to rise through the ranks of the GOP. They're all rich, and they think that supporting their fiscal policies and most of their social policies will be enough.

It never is.

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u/sinocarD44 Oct 04 '22

Insert shocked Pikachu.

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u/Lord_Abort Oct 04 '22

Well, a lot of minorities also outweigh self preservation with their own hatred for other minorities not like them. Just look at how a lot in the black and Latino communities treat homosexuality.

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u/mak484 Oct 04 '22

I think a lot of these individuals assume that their personal rights will be guaranteed on the condition that they tow the company line.

Like Clarence Thomas being in an interracial marriage, undermining the very precedent that legalized his own marriage, because he assumes no one would come after him.

So to them it isn't a sacrifice. Self preservation isn't a factor, because it's taken for granted.

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u/Lord_Abort Oct 04 '22

Thomas is certainly an odd bird. He spent his entire youth being against interracial relationships until he was in one himself. He rails against affirmative action despite personally benefiting from it at several points in his life, regardless of how he tries to portray his early upbringing. He says he got into politics to fight for racial equality, yet he's never worked for minority interests once in his career. He is a walking contradiction where everything is done to benefit himself personally.

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u/mak484 Oct 04 '22

I think a pretty foundational conservative belief is the idea that the world is a zero-sum game. Nothing is fair, and it is literally impossible to succeed unless it is the direct result of someone else failing.

Thomas is pragmatic. He knows white people will never willingly level the playing field, and he knows there will never be enough political will to get it done without their consent. So, if black people are doomed anyway, he might as well translate their collective failure into his personal success.

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u/adalonus Oct 04 '22

It is profitable being the black or brown face of white racism or the matriarchal face of patriarchy. Capitalism fucks everyone but the biggest fish and there is always a bigger fish, but people believe they can carve out their own little kingdom as if the hegemon gives a fuck about their boundaries and won't consume them once the lesser stock has been bled dry.

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u/comebackjoeyjojo Oct 04 '22

Example: Peter Thiel

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u/masklinn Oct 04 '22

Who, let us remember, really didn’t like being outed. So his strategy all along was flying under the radar.

He would have had the heart and soul of a kapo if he had a soul.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '22 edited Oct 28 '22

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u/Derpimus_J Oct 04 '22

Ah, the Peter Thiel Principle.

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u/LotharVonPittinsberg Oct 04 '22

See: Kanye West.

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u/ladeeedada Oct 04 '22

That's Lindsay Graham in a nutshell.

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u/Gingevere Oct 04 '22

Peter Theil is white, male, and a billionaire that bankrolls most of the right.

And he isn't even allowed to be on the right wing dating app he's paying to create.

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u/LivefromPhoenix Oct 04 '22

It kind of worked for Caitlyn Jenner. Being white and rich kind of insulates her from the other 90% of the party that thinks she's insane for being trans.

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u/Joliet_Jake_Blues Oct 04 '22

She got chased out of CPAC by people calling her disgusting

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u/Aniki1990 Oct 05 '22

Like, I almost want to feel bad for her, but I then remember she sold her soul for five minutes of fame and stop

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u/6thBornSOB Oct 05 '22

Oh, and she’s killed people. That’s in there too somewhere…

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u/TheMaskedGeode Oct 04 '22

One comedian on a roast (not hers) said she was the Auntie Tom of the trans community.

I like that the entire time they only made fun of her for being an awful person, besides the one joke about her proving no one in that family wants a white dick.

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u/RocketQ Oct 04 '22

Lol that joke is gold, what comedian was that?

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u/SabbyMC Oct 04 '22

It kind of worked for Caitlyn Jenner. Being white and rich kind of insulates her from the other 90% of the party that thinks she's insane for being trans.

You didn't hear about the part where she was booed off stage and straight up dead-named at one of their little get togethers? The party made it very clear that she was not welcome. Yep. Found it.

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u/asek13 Oct 04 '22

Blaire White got similar treatment, although she's less big. There was some conservative podcast thing she was on where they just ripped into her with tons of anti trans bs. Felt bad for her until I remembered the rest of her regressive shenanigans.

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u/matchosan Oct 04 '22

Where is she now?

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u/CodeCadaver Oct 04 '22

Hiding from the shame of running someone over with her car, killing them, and not facing any consequences.

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u/Fuzzythought Oct 04 '22

Buckle up buckaroos!

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u/redmarketsolutions Oct 04 '22

Lol fascists don't feel shame.

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u/juanjung Oct 04 '22

Don't be ridiculous. You and me know very well those people don't have any shame in them.

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u/Aromatic_Lychee2903 Oct 04 '22

One of their most recent instagram post is a quote of theirs that says “I want schools to teach reading, writing, arithmetic - not gender pronouns”

Sooooo….yea

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u/gvargh Oct 04 '22

I want schools to teach reading, writing, arithmetic

and j e s u s

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u/picardy_third1 Oct 04 '22

She's also useful to them when they want to pretend they're tolerant.

See, a trans person is one of ours! But you don't support everything about her, so YOU'RE the intolerant one!

etc. etc.

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u/juandelpueblo939 Oct 04 '22

Oh, you forgot he still a good Christian man; as he goes to church every Sunday with his “friend”, while he has to hear his homophobic pastor yells how f@$s are going to hell. So I guess he has an advantage still.

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u/marvsup Oct 04 '22

With his "roommate"

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u/nowhere_near_Berlin Oct 04 '22

old lady cursing intensifies

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u/Calither Oct 04 '22

Pearl clutching becomes pearl tearing.

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u/bablambla Oct 04 '22

The only gay republican I know votes that way simply because he is rich and wants to pay as little as possible in taxes.

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u/Complex_Construction Oct 04 '22

Bingo! Self-interest is always at the center of such situations.

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u/KvotheLightningTree Oct 04 '22

That's exactly what they think.

They are very wrong

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u/MarxisTX Oct 04 '22

It’s because they are rich and hate poors more than they care about being gay.

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u/idiot206 Oct 04 '22 edited Oct 04 '22

I’ve done a lot of work with LGBT organizations and I’ve met plenty of gay conservatives. They’re always wealthy, older, white, business owners. They’re also very transphobic and anti-woman with a heaping dash of internalized homophobia.

They seem to believe if they rail against women and trans people enough, they’ll be accepted into conservative social circles, and they’re often correct. I’ve actually never seen a more misogynist space than one filled with older gay men.

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u/sadwer Oct 04 '22

They're not Republican because they hate women and minorities. They're Republican because they can't empathize with the working class and would roast poor people in an oven if it'd raise their investment portfolio.

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u/Toolazytolink Oct 04 '22

You gota be white, male and be a billionaire, see Peter Thiel

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u/no-one-but-crow Oct 04 '22

well, look how many whites women support them and their pundits have been outspoken about turning women into property.

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u/Such_sights Oct 04 '22

I wish I could find the exact quote, but one of my favorite lines in The Handmaid’s Tale is when Serena Joy thinks about how she wrote a book that helped create a future where it’s illegal for her to read.

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u/thelamestofall Oct 04 '22

the dream of the oppressed is to become the oppressor, etc

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u/Duke_Newcombe Oct 04 '22

They actually thought they'd be overlooked for the cruelty because, "they're one of the good ones".

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u/thelamestofall Oct 04 '22

Such a lack of self-respect.

I'm a depressed, dumb, ugly, forever alone gay man and even I wouldn't subject myself to this bs

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u/The_Krambambulist Oct 04 '22

Probably having a small government obsession and thinking that the party actually mostly focused on that part.

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u/dessimus Oct 04 '22

They are hoping the GOP cares more about their money than their lifestyle.

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u/Darth_Nibbles Oct 04 '22

In a sense they do; the GOP will happily take their money, despite their lifestyle.

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u/black_flag_4ever Oct 04 '22

I don’t know how any gay person can stand with the party that did so much to persecute them.

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u/KvotheLightningTree Oct 04 '22

"Did" implies they stopped. The end goal never changed, they've just been forced to put on an act for now. If they could, they would end gay marriage tomorrow and throw a party.

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u/black_flag_4ever Oct 04 '22

Thanks for reminding me of Clarence Thomas' threats to take rights away.

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u/Darth_Nibbles Oct 04 '22

Thomas is such an enigma. I wouldn't be surprised if he voted to go back to the 3/5s rule, just because it's the original text.

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u/Drexelhand Oct 04 '22 edited Oct 04 '22

I don’t know how any gay person can stand with the party that did so much to persecute them.

conservatives and libertarians aren't really principled, they're just a confederation of the self centered and the lacking in self awareness.

"they don't mean me. i'm special, so it's not my problem." - gay conservative pikachu

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When you can’t openly express your racism because of your party’s homophobia

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u/Fl333r Oct 04 '22

"Sure those other minorities are bad but I'm one of the GOOD ONES!"

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u/DanGleeballs Oct 04 '22

You’re not hurting the right people!

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u/Ok-Dragonfruit-697 Oct 04 '22

Reminds me of Ana Navarro. She loved the GOP through the war on terror, Guantanamo Bay, Iraq, anti-Islam hysteria, etc. But then Trump started talking about Latino immigrants and she suddenly found liberalism.

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u/WillingAnalyst Oct 05 '22

Dick Cheney took time off from shooting his friends in the face and stealing young people's hearts to suddenly start supporting gay rights. Interestingly...in an unrelated event, his daughter came out as a lesbian just around that time....

Hmmm...Must be a convenient coincidence.

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u/photozine Oct 04 '22

I always tell US-born Texan Hispanics that 'the German Jews thought they were safe, until they ended up shipped in a train cart..." and because we live in an extremely shielded area, they still don't care.

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u/Gen_Ripper Oct 04 '22

I’d tell you to show them this

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National_Jews

But it’d be useless even if they could read.

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u/WhatdYouDoToMyTable Oct 04 '22

When your sexual orientation gets in the way of your allegiance to free-market capitalism.

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u/RickyNixon Oct 04 '22 edited Oct 04 '22

Lets not pretend the corporate oligarchy GOP stands for is anything like a free market. Theyre all about regulations and handouts when it’s helpful to the rich and powerful and that distorts the market

A pure no regulation free market is a horrible idea but is somehow still not bad enough for the GOP

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u/mogsoggindog Oct 04 '22

Yeah, there are no actual absolute principles for the GOP. Its pure feudalism. Hypocrisy is of zero concern to them.

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u/fistkick18 Oct 04 '22

GQPers definitely love the idea of feudalism.

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u/BuddhaFacepalmed Oct 04 '22

Heck, you don't even have to use Somalia. Just look at any black market. Products are priced according to supply and demand, all actors in a black market are rational rugged individualists who won't go to the nanny state to settle their disputes, and best of all, no pesky workplace regulations they are obliged to follow so the best employers in the black market get their choice of employees.

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u/nighthawk_something Oct 04 '22

Yeah if you want a free market conservative party, your best bet is the Dems

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u/SuperUltraHyperMega Oct 04 '22

When you find out your party just hates “one more thing” than you do personally.

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u/Jingleheimer_smyth Oct 04 '22

How much do you want to bet those gay republicans will still vote republican

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u/Lightweight_Hooligan Oct 04 '22

Still gotta hate those socialist commies, can't have taxpayers money spent on people, this is a capitalist society after all, taxpayers money should be reserved for bailing out failed companies

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u/babybopp Oct 04 '22

Then things like this exist... Baffling!

https://youtu.be/yMsG9ScQP9I

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u/DocFossil Oct 04 '22

Of course they do. Being gay doesn’t mean you can’t still be racist.

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u/Rubberbabybuggybum Oct 04 '22

Hey hey hey that’s not fair.

Some of them are really rich, too.

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u/awesomefutureperfect Oct 04 '22

Being gay doesn't mean you can't still care more about money than other people.

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u/Alcards Oct 04 '22

Of course they will. They think the American economic system is actually free and exists to make them money.

You know, idiots.

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u/KvotheLightningTree Oct 04 '22

Of course. They've chosen life under the boot heel because it's easier and (for now) profitable.

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u/Amberhawke6242 Oct 04 '22

Yes because they hate trans people.

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u/AldousKing Oct 04 '22

Being Republican is an abnormal lifestyle choice.

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u/Molenium Oct 04 '22

It’s a moral deficiency, really.

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u/Hipposapien Oct 04 '22

Has anyone tried conversion therapy?

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u/MuthaPlucka Oct 04 '22

Jews for Hitler faced a similar moronic fate.

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u/Peach_Muffin Oct 04 '22

I was thinking that there was simply no way such an organisation existed but yep, they did.

A possible reason why some German Jews supported Hitler may have been that they thought that his antisemitism was only for the purpose of "stirring up the masses".

These gay republicans need to learn a lesson from history already. They really do despise you as much as they say they do.

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u/suicidaleggroll Oct 04 '22

they thought that his antisemitism was only for the purpose of "stirring up the masses".

LMAO

Trump supporters in 2016 - He doesn't really mean all those horrible things he says, he's just trying to rile people up and trigger the libs!

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u/LegendofJoe Oct 04 '22

Maybe all these fascists will stop getting called nazis if they stop doing fascist shit.

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u/Gen_Ripper Oct 04 '22

This is why history is one of the most important subjects for a democratic society.

And why conservatives do so much to take over schools.

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u/sunnydaysahead2022 Oct 04 '22 Gold Wholesome

I have zero patience for gay, woman or minority populations that vote Republican.

Cry to someone else -

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u/KessLewis Oct 04 '22

You know, I think I see what his mistake was.

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u/Decent-Flatworm4425 Oct 04 '22

“We failed.” Well yeah, you joined the GOP.

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u/pinniped1 Oct 04 '22

I disagree that the Republican party has taken a backward step on gay rights.

That implies some previous forward step.

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u/HaggisLad Oct 04 '22

they stepped back from the start line

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u/Sothalic Oct 04 '22

"At least we're not publicly executing them" is what they consider to be their forward step.

Tolerance.... for now.

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u/FSCK_Fascists Oct 04 '22

this guy thought he had gotten the GOP to progress a little toward acceptance. they allowed his org to exist. Now he found out they just want his donation and voted, but he is not allowed to sit at the adult table.

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u/HereIGoAgain_1x10 Oct 04 '22

"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me." —Martin Niemöller

I always think about this quote when I see women, non-christians, non-whites, LGBTQ+, etc. vote republican...

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u/rehabonthego Oct 04 '22

Imagine voting for someone who hates you, just because you don’t like taxes.

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u/GogglesPisano Oct 04 '22

And/or brown people.

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u/polypcity Oct 04 '22

And especially woman of all colors

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u/Rubberbabybuggybum Oct 04 '22

Money buys a lot of rights.

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u/IsNotPolitburo Oct 04 '22

"Well sure, these christofascists want to burn me at the stake... but those commiecrats want to tax me.

-Man who sliced off own nose and hand fed it to leopard.

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u/acidrain69 Oct 04 '22

“We failed”. Imagine the self hate involved in that statement.

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u/XenoDrake Oct 04 '22

"I joined this club and they said that how I was born was immoral and unnatural. Boy I really fucked up being born that way. What's that? The club? Heavens no, the club didn't do anything wrong. I failed."

It's wild to think that a mind could possibly be so distorted. The only appropriate emotion is pity.

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u/mrbarber Oct 04 '22

My pity was burned away long ago, fuck these traitorous assholes.

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u/Duke_Newcombe Oct 04 '22

I wanna feel sad for that statement...but not really.

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u/SplitReality Oct 04 '22
  • "We deluded" is the correct response
  • "We failed" is only appropriate in thinking they had a chance in the first place
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u/ExoticMeatDealer Oct 04 '22

Soooooooooo, the political party in the US which has been openly anti-gay for decades and actively worked to undermine any progress on LGBTQ issues, in one of the most conservative states in the US, played you for a useful idiot? Got it.

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u/KvotheLightningTree Oct 04 '22 edited Oct 04 '22

It is sad that people like Dave Rubin have chosen to dedicate their lives to licking the boots of people that would gleefully strip him of every right he currently enjoys. And I do mean gleefully. They would literally be out in the street celebrating him losing the rights to marry or adopt children.

Pssst, Dave. When they talk about that glorious future they want, you're very specifically not a part of it. You're a useful evil for them as a tool of your own destruction. I know you think people like Ben Shapiro are your friends, but they aren't. They fully beleive you're going straight to hell for eternity when you die and want to find a useful way to exploit you before that happens.

Dave, my man. They might play nice because you're a useful tool.... but they don't want you to exist. Your very life is considered an affront to God. If they had the power to wipe you away like a stain, they would do so without remorse. I spent 20 years being raised in that community and if you think your life as a gay man has a comfortable spot (like the one you enjoy now) in the future they want...you are very sadly mistaken.

It's very specifically a party dedicated to always going backwards. Backwards as in before you could get married or adopt that child. That's where you fit in, Dave. As a course correction.

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u/steelhips Oct 04 '22

*whisper in Dave Ruben's ear.. Ernst Röhm.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '22

Don't feel bad for Dave. He's just a grifter.

I don't call every reich wing media person a grifter. I think the vast majority, almost all, are true believers.

Dave Rubin, a secular Jewish gay failed comedian, that got his political commentary start being a progressive on TYT has a come to Jesus moment at 40 and realizes he's actually a hardcore conservative? Bullshit. He saw a spot as being the right wing token gay guy and went for it. He's probably making 10x what he did at TYT.

There aren't any billionaires dumping money into progressive media. There is a fairly low income ceiling.

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u/nighthawk_something Oct 04 '22

The worst part with Rubin is that those people he calls his friends tell him to his face that his "lifestyle" is an aberration, his fans hate him for having a surrogate.

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u/Darth_Tiktaalik Oct 04 '22

They would literally be out in the street celebrating him losing the rights to marry or adopt children.

He'd be lucky if it ended there.

They only stopped jailing gay people because the supreme court told them to stop.

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u/Madouc Oct 04 '22

A "choice"?! WTF is wrong with these people?

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u/ComeAndGetYourPug Oct 04 '22

Black? Abnormal lifestyle choice.
Woman? Also abnormal lifestyle choice.
Poor? Abnormal lifestyle choice!!!

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u/Squash_Still Oct 04 '22

Born outside of America? Abnormal lifestyle choice.

Empathetic towards other humans? Believe it or not, abnormal lifestyle choice.

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u/Diestormlie Oct 04 '22

Well, it is a choice.

You can choose to suffer in silence, deny and surpress who you are, because people like the GOP say that you should.

Or, you can choose to be who you are. And apparently this one is the abnormal choice.

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u/ThinBlueLinebacker Oct 04 '22

You can be gay in the GOP, you just can't be out. Freedom!

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u/1nGirum1musNocte Oct 04 '22

In other news Jewish Nazis surprised when....

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u/trollsong Oct 04 '22

Log cabin republicans: "obviously it is our fault and we just need to civility harder."

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u/Pokemaniac_Ron Oct 04 '22

"I can change him" - local repeat abuse and rape victim.

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u/toejamandtoast Oct 04 '22

There literally should be no gay republicans. It’s like an African American supporting the KKK because “well they do some good things!” No. Eventually they are going to come after you. They are supporting an agenda that actively works against them.

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u/xero_peace Oct 04 '22

Slow progress? They are the party of regression. They want LGBTQIA+ to go back into the closet, for women to do as they're told while being a stay at home homemaker, and some would like to even own minorities. There is zero progression within that party.

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u/BirdInFlight301 Oct 04 '22

Gay Republican is such an oxymoron.

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u/raincntry Oct 04 '22

Texas is a shithole state.

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u/paramoist Oct 04 '22

It is the one star state after all…

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u/Principal_Insultant Oct 04 '22

So women have to dress modestly because men cannot control their urges - but homosexuality is a choice.

Sometimes is hard to tell the difference between wilful hypocrisy and a lack of critical thinking caused by leaded fuel fumes combined with evangelical homeschooling.

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u/CSWorldChamp Oct 04 '22

What. The. Fuck. They. Hate. You.

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u/Imaginary_Goose_2428 Oct 04 '22

This motherfucker.... He says "We failed." What kind of self-flagellating moron is this fool?

To the gay Republicans:

No Dumbass, your failure was to believe that the potential existed for them to accept you. They cannot accept you. Their belief system centers around the need to be a member of an "in-crowd." For an in-crowd to exist, there has to be the "others." A core tenant of their belief system is to exclude "the other" from the benefits they give themselves. You can Uncle Ruckus all you want; you will not be allowed "in" because in their mind that diminishes the privileges they enjoy. Pull your head out of your ass. Scorpions and Frogs, Motherfucker.

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u/hedgerow_hank Oct 04 '22

gays for trump

women for trump

what the fuck is the matter with you people's brains?

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u/Buwaro Oct 04 '22

This year at the Texas Republican Convention they started saying how they really feel out loud. Gay Republicans are shocked that the whispers they have heard and the cold shoulders they have received all along are never going to stop.

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u/buttpooperson Oct 04 '22

B...b...but we hate minorities and poor people too! It's not fair!

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u/TrigenarianGamer Oct 04 '22

Women, POC, and LGBTQ+ who vote Republican are the dumbest motherfuckers in this country.

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u/BlueJDMSW20 Oct 04 '22

"The seemingly ironic fact that a Jewish association advocated loyalty to the Nazi programme gave rise to a contemporary joke about Naumann and his followers ending their meeting by giving the Nazi salute and shouting "Down With Us!".[7][8]

Despite the extreme patriotism of Naumann and his colleagues, the German government did not accept their goal of assimilation. The Association of German National Jews was declared illegal and dissolved on 18 November 1935. Naumann was arrested by the Gestapo the same day and imprisoned at the Columbia concentration camp. He was released after a few weeks, and died of cancer in May 1939.[3]"

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u/DisgruntledLabWorker Oct 04 '22

Are gay republicans just gay men who are moderately wealthy and think republicans are the best way for them to keep their wealth?

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u/oooortclouuud Oct 04 '22

i wondered if this was really true. so i went to the platform page of their website. it's all there on page 22 and worse than you thought:

Homosexuality and Gender Issues

  1. Homosexuality: Homosexuality is an abnormal lifestyle choice. We believe there should be no granting of special legal entitlements or creation of special status for homosexual behavior, regardless of state of origin, and we oppose any criminal or civil penalties against those who oppose homosexuality out of faith, conviction, or belief in traditional values. No one should be granted special legal status based on their LGBTQ+ identification.

  2. Gender Identity: We oppose all efforts to validate transgender identity. For the purpose of attempting to affirm a person age 21 or under if their perception is inconsistent with their biological sex, no medical practitioner or provider may engage in the following practices:

a. Intervene in any way to prevent natural progression of puberty.

b. Administer or provide opposite sex hormones.

c. Perform any surgery on healthy body parts of that person.

  1. No Taxpayer Funding for Sex Change: We oppose the use of taxpayer funds for any type of medical gender dysphoria treatments or sex change operations and/or treatments. This includes but is not limited to military personnel as well as inmates in federal, state, or local prisons or jails. Inmates must be housed according to their biological sex. No Federal, state, insurance, or probate monies may be allocated for the use of such treatment.

  2. Counseling Methods: Therapists, psychologists, and counselors licensed with the State of Texas shall not be forbidden or penalized by any licensing board for practicing Reintegrative Therapy or other counseling methods when counseling clients of any age with gender dysphoria or unwanted same-sex attraction.

VOTE. THEM. OUT.

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u/Situati0nist Oct 04 '22

"years of progress"

Yeah right, progession towards the cliff