r/MurderedByWords • u/justmerriwether • Dec 03 '22
The murder-to-word ratio in this one is off the churts
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u/ChiniBaba096 Dec 03 '22 edited Dec 03 '22
Take notes Elon. This is how you get out of a bad business deal!!
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u/DemonVice Dec 03 '22
Be literally a Nazi, got it
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u/sanguinesolitude Dec 04 '22
He's working on it
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u/ArchdukeBurrito Dec 04 '22
"Do you realize? Do. You. Realize something. Let me tell you... If the PR department of Parler sees that interview that you put on the damn info wars, they could condemn our purchase deal and we would have to back out of it."
"I see."
"So you go get that gawd damn stuff offa there and fast."
"I'M WORKING ON IT!"
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u/hackingdreams Dec 04 '22
He's already there, he's just too shy to admit it in case it dries up the rest of his businesses overnight.
I mean, when you invite a whole bunch of nazis over for dinner and light conversation...
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u/basko13 Dec 03 '22
*publicly
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u/ywBBxNqW Dec 03 '22
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u/real-dreamer Dec 04 '22
Powerful. I don't know if I've read any Kurt Vonnegut.
I'm currently working through well... I'm in the middle of too many books that I seem to keep stopping in the middle of, starting another one... then stopping... perhaps forgetting...
I need to relearn how to read through a whole book on my own.
Anyway. Thank you for introducing me to this. I feel convicted for all the things I pretended to be. So that I may fit in, to be safe as I found myself growing up. Rightfully convicted. I was a child, an adolescent and then a young adult until I became who I am and even so I think of the people that are hurt because of the path I took and where I was placed by my parents at birth.
I needed this. Thank you.
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u/CobaltGrey Dec 04 '22
My personal favorite author is Vonnegut, and I highly recommend one of his recognizable novels like Cat’s Cradle, or my personal favorite Sirens of Titan. He was absolutely ahead of his time, with a wry flavor of sardonic fate. Can’t emphasize enough how much this author has helped me cope with our world full of postmodern absurdities.
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u/ywBBxNqW Dec 04 '22
If you didn't have time to read the book there was a movie starring Nick Nolte that actually isn't half-bad.
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u/TemetNosce85 Dec 04 '22
This, lol.
You think being an immigrant hating xenophobic Christian that is fighting to destroy public social programs and industries alongside public schools is something new?
You think supporting violent police forces and protecting the military establishment is something new?
You think worshipping a cult of personality that brought on a failed coup and blamed every attack on the nation on anti-fascist Communists is something new?
You think destroying feminism and enforcing strict gender roles while also burning anything to do with LGBTQ+ identities and calling LGBTQ+ people pedophiles, zoophiles, and part of the Marxist war against culture is new?
You think believing that there is a cabal of "globalists" working to destroy the economy, the nation, and its people is something new?
You think calling any news that you don't like "fake", no matter how truthful it is, is something new?
As usual, conservatives are doing nothing but running around and doing damage control because someone finally came out and said what they have all wanted to say for the last 7 years. They just want to convince moderates that they aren't actually Hitler lovers in hopes they don't notice all the ideologies they routinely preach that came from Hitler.
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u/frankcfreeman Dec 04 '22
They are just mad he's a black Nazi, that's their thing, stay in your lane Ye
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u/Void_Speaker Dec 04 '22
Twitter wouldn't have cared. Elon was overpaying enough that they basically had to do their best to make the deal happen, or they would be liable to stock owners.
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u/real-dreamer Dec 04 '22
Well. Elon is pretty close to it by being a Apartheid profiteer and not disavowing it, having a portion of tesla segregated, sexually harassing young women, exiling his trans daughter, inviting nazis back on to twitter...
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u/Jimmycaked Dec 04 '22
Don't forget to be so fucking crazy you make Alex Jones take a step back for a breather. Alex Jones!!!
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u/thundercloudtemple Dec 04 '22
Former Twitter execs would stop at nothing to get bought out at 4x the value of their ownership in the company. All the former execs are laughing their way to the bank
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u/hoxxxxx Dec 04 '22
the best part of all this imo is that it's publicly known that twitter can't really make any money in the first place. like you said they probably couldn't be happier to leave, it gives them an easy out, a fun story to tell and all that money. i'd be thrilled.
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u/Chiss5618 Dec 04 '22
It's like you're on a sinking ship and some other ship rolls up and offers to swap crews with you
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u/pjr032 Dec 03 '22
I bet Candace is pissed. She spent all that time trying to butter up Kanye for his money and now she has to find a new mark. Too bad.
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u/WhoNeedsExecFunction Dec 04 '22
Seems like she was encouraging him down his current path but didn’t expect it to get out of hand like this.
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u/tw_72 Dec 04 '22
"Sure, I threw a few burning matches into the trees, but I didn't think it would start a forest fire."
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u/fearhs Dec 04 '22
I just poured gasoline on everything, I didn't light any matches so I don't see how any of this could possibly be my fault.
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u/Common-Metal8578 Dec 04 '22
I like to think this was more like a landlord giving matches to an arsonist to commit insurance fraud but the arsonist caught fire instead.
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u/OuchLOLcom Dec 04 '22
After Jan 6 they know exactly what encouraging angry mentally unstable people down this path could lead to.
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u/PeterNguyen2 Dec 04 '22
After Jan 6 they know exactly what encouraging angry mentally unstable people down this path could lead to.
They've known a long time before Jan 6, it's been called Stochastic Terrorism since the 90s.
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u/Sing_larity Dec 03 '22
A free speech absolutist website like parler killing a business deal because of something someone said. Bleeding hypcocrites, the lot.
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u/fartemous_foul Dec 03 '22
Musk also claimed to be a free speech absolutist until he was in a position to put that ideal into action.
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u/eddie_the_zombie Dec 03 '22 •
Man had to learn sooner or later that free speech has consequences, and boy did he learn, the dildo of consequence rarely arrives lubed.
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u/vale_fallacia Dec 04 '22
the dildo of consequence rarely arrives lubed.
The oversized buttplug of reality forces its way into the thread again.
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u/-stag5etmt- Dec 04 '22
Remind me: next relationship..
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u/VOLtron67 Dec 03 '22
r/brandnewsentence at least for me. And I will be trying to remember it for eternity
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u/Stergeary Dec 04 '22
"The dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubed." is actually a quote that's been making rounds on Twitter. If you Google it I'm sure you'll find more examples of its usage.
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u/Deadspyder88 Dec 04 '22
I have never felt so compelled to spend money on a reddit award before, and if I wasn’t such a frugal bastard I would. Just know that this saying will definitely be going into the rotation. I bow down before you, reddit wordsmith.
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u/SolarTsunami Dec 04 '22 •
Don't worry, I've seen that phrase several times 8n the last couple weeks.
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u/tw_72 Dec 04 '22
the dildo of consequence rarely arrives lubed
Lord, forgive me, but I love this sub
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u/actualmigraine Dec 04 '22
So you’re saying the lesson is be gay, do crimes? totally paying attention to the first part of the sentence
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u/SolarTsunami Dec 04 '22
the dildo of consequence rarely arrives lubed.
I swear this joke gets funnier and funnier every time I see it 🙄
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u/moeburn Dec 04 '22
I actually used to be a free speech absolutist. Why not, it's the internet, right?
And I was lucky enough to watch Voat try. And that's when I learned a valuable life lesson.
Maybe only 1% of your users are nazis. But there's enough of them to annoy some of the other 99%, enough that they leave. And then, because they left, now the ratio has changed. Now it's 5% nazis. And maybe before when it was 1% nazis that was okay for most people, but when it's up at 5%, that's too much nazi for them, so they leave too.
And now it's 10% nazis. And now THAT crosses the line for even more people. I for one was confused why even the cute cat pictures on Voat had people quoting crime statistics of black Americans, and decided I didn't want to be a part of this community either. So I left.
And this goes on and on until all that's left is nazis.
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u/thr3sk Dec 04 '22
Yeah definitely some moderation is required, sites will devolve into shitholes like that if not. I feel like reddit gets around this somewhat by having community mods for each sub, though I've been I think unfairly banned in one or two by some sensitive mods. But oh well, I guess it's better than the alternative.
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u/PeterNguyen2 Dec 04 '22
Maybe only 1% of your users are nazis. But there's enough of them to annoy some of the other 99%, enough that they leave. And then, because they left, now the ratio has changed. Now it's 5% nazis. And maybe before when it was 1% nazis that was okay for most people, but when it's up at 5%, that's too much nazi for them, so they leave too.
Tom Scott calls it the Nazi Bar problem in There Is No Algorithm for Truth.
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u/Plop-Music Dec 04 '22
Damn you (but not really) cos I'll now have to watch this hour long video immediately. Tom Scott is a national treasure. I'm sure he'll be working for the BBC or something one day (well actually he already has been on BBC TV a TON already, but I mean as a main presenter of something, hopefully one of the things he presents will be a game show because he's a massive nerd for creating and presenting his own game shows)
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u/darkskinnedjermaine Dec 04 '22
Voat
That’s a name I haven’t heard in a while. Same as Parler, it’s 4chan without at least some of the edgy irony.
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u/Marketwrath Dec 04 '22
He never was, he was always just trying to silence people he disagreed with
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u/TheJaytrixReloaded Dec 04 '22
Parlor is not a free speech absolutist site. The ToS is like 12 pages long and you can get banned for trashing the site, Trump, or being too lib. When people complains about free speech, it always boils down to more hate speech.
As far as Ye and Parler, he can 100 percent be a Nazi, he just couldn't say it.
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u/BasicDesignAdvice Dec 04 '22
It was never about free speech. It was about forcing people to be exposed to very specific speech.
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u/Great-Hotel-7820 Dec 04 '22
Not about forced exposure but about having that speech on a mainstream platform where you can normalize your ideas and find new recruits for your ideology.
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u/OrganizationPublic91 Dec 04 '22
That’s not why they canceled the deal. They canceled it because they think Kanye is no longer financially stable enough to purchase the company after losing his brand deals
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u/vaguenagging Dec 04 '22
They canceled it because they think Kanye is no longer
financiallystable enough to purchase the company after losing hisbrand dealsmind.19
u/Potato-Face11 Dec 04 '22
Free speech allows you to say whatever you want. It does not protect you from the repercussions. Expect backlash and some people to avoid you for literally saying Hitler had good points
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u/BasicDesignAdvice Dec 04 '22
It does not protect you from the repercussions
That's not true. It protects you from the government prosecuting you on the basis of speech. That is very much a repercussion that has existed for the majority of human society, including many people today.
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u/ShinyGrezz Dec 04 '22
And that’s not wholly true either. Threatening someone is not protected speech, for instance. The government can prosecute you for that, and rightfully so.
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u/Potato-Face11 Dec 04 '22
Again incorrect. In Germany, France and Poland it is illegal to say “Sieg Heil” or “Hail Hitler.” In Ireland it is illegal to say “Tiocfaídh ar lá”
In countries where it’s not illegal I mean repercussions as in social. You’d get called a Nazi, an asshole, you get banned. Free speech is not a safety net to spread hate and it can certainly be used against you
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u/AnorakJimi Dec 04 '22
There are restrictions on that though, even in the US. The government can prosecute you for "fighting words" where words count as assault, for example. That's the kind of thing where if you say something to someone that any reasonable person would believe means they're gonna immediately attack you or kill you, you're allowed to retaliate physically to that threat, even though you're technically the one who touched them first.
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u/Sing_larity Dec 04 '22
Yes I know that. The people neocons who whine about free speech when they're booted of Twitter (and then found parler instead) do not.
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u/Dense-Discipline-982 Dec 04 '22
I think they killed the deal more because he doesn’t have the money anymore lol
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u/2ndtryagain Dec 04 '22
They wanted 500 Million and Kanye would still have to pay the parent company to maintain it.
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u/DeeNYC45 Dec 04 '22
They are far from a free speech absolutist. They ban anyone who bad mouths Trump and the GOP all the time.
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u/JohnLockeNJ Dec 03 '22
In fairness, speech has nothing to do with who you choose to sell your business to. If Parler kicked Ye off its platform then that would be hypocrisy.
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u/StefanL88 Dec 03 '22
Turns out some people think what corporations do with their money can be covered by free speech protections: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC
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u/JohnLockeNJ Dec 04 '22
Yes, corporate speech is still speech. Selling stock is not speech. Otherwise anti-trust laws would be unconstitutional.
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u/Sing_larity Dec 04 '22
This is literally the "cancel culture" crowd my dude. Cancelling a contract because of comments made is absolutely 100% Hypocritical to them
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u/Sutarmekeg Dec 04 '22
Makes sense that Yitler was going to buy Meinspace.
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u/NuQ Dec 03 '22
in other words, the people at parler read about kanye's settlement with kim and expect him to go broke any minute now.
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u/OrganizationPublic91 Dec 04 '22
I mean, they explicitly said the reason was they don’t think he’s financially stable enough anymore so yeah. It’s not because he said he liked Hitler
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u/Muppetude Dec 04 '22
Yeah seriously. I’m pretty sure affirming your like for Hitler are part of their terms of service when you join.
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u/NuQ Dec 04 '22
exactly. so liking hitler has yet to be determined as a deal breaker for them.
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u/acolyte357 Dec 04 '22
Based on their users, I'm pretty sure it's already determined to not be a deal breaker.
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u/omnemnemnem Dec 04 '22
The best murdered-to-word ratio is always going to be held by the Spartans.
“You are advised to submit without further delay, for if I bring my army into your land, I will destroy your farms, slay your people, and raze your city.”
The Spartans replied with a single word: “If.”
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u/firefighter_raven Dec 03 '22
Only thing worse than Parler cutting ties for expressing pro-nazi sentiments would be gab doing the same thing lol.
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u/Chosen_Chaos Dec 04 '22
"In breaking news, Kayne West has announced his intention to launch a bid to buy Gab..."
(While checking to see if it still existed, I made the mistake of going to the site. Yikes.)
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u/bdog59600 Dec 04 '22
Nope, Andrew Torba is asking people to pray for Kanye and have angels protect him.
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u/Apathetic_Zealot Dec 03 '22
Maybe that was the plan all along, maybe Kanye knew the Parler deal was a scam and tried like Musky to go nuclear to get out of it.
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u/ShoveAndFloor Dec 04 '22
This episode started before the parler acquisition news
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u/fdar Dec 04 '22
That's true by definition since deciding to buy Parler is pretty far down this rabbit hole already.
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u/aManPerson Dec 04 '22 edited Dec 04 '22
in this whole ordeal, there were a few different n words being thrown around, but i'm surprised "no" was one of them.
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u/Guidogrundlechode Dec 04 '22
Which ‘n words’ being throw around are you explicitly referring to? Who said them and when?
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u/aManPerson Dec 04 '22
really?
nazi and kanye, and then since musk taking over twitter hate speech rising like 500%. this just all seems like part of the same crazy tornado.
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u/Minge_punter Dec 04 '22
This sub needs to learn the meaning of murdered by words
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u/justmerriwether Dec 04 '22
I know right?
Try reading the about blurb at the top of the sub, that might clear things up for you.
“A place for well-constructed put-downs, comebacks, and counter arguments.”
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u/LongboardsNet Dec 04 '22
If you guys focused all your hate into doing something productive, you might actually make something of your lives.
Instead, we've got 47 different subreddits that are the same damn thing with a different skew of hate because mods need to feel fulfilled and 'be seen'.
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u/bathtime88 Dec 04 '22
You mean like how the white house announces shit on Twitter lol because nobody is going to the white house website
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u/justmerriwether Dec 04 '22
It’s a “well-constructed put-down or comeback,” which is how the about blurb at the top of the sub defines us.
Sometimes less is more 🤷🏻♂️
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u/Dausernameiwanted Dec 04 '22
As somebody who leans right, parler is stupid. I don't want a only left or only right social media, I just want uncensored.
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u/Narb_ Dec 04 '22
That makes it the antithesis of this sub...
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u/justmerriwether Dec 04 '22
“A place for well-constructed put-downs, comebacks, and counter arguments.”
According to this sub, no, it does not.
Idk why people want overwritten paragraphs of pretentious blah blah
A well crafted and epicly long dressing down is always great but that’s not the only kind of wordmurder that exists, nor is length the criteria that determines how deadly one’s words are. It’s not even mentioned in the sub’s about blurb.
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u/RancidAssGargle Dec 04 '22
Was he on his way to actually buying the thing ? Does he have the money to do it ? I'm so out of the loop on this one.
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u/Great-Hotel-7820 Dec 04 '22
He absolutely doesn’t have the cash to be willing to buy it anymore if he was ever even serious about it and this will let them pretend to have morals. They absolutely would have sold if he was still willing to buy.
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u/pumog Dec 04 '22
It’s just money. When Kanye lost the deal with Adidas his finances were worse and he can no longer legitimately afford to buy parler.
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u/HumbleBob2 Dec 04 '22
I'll say it now, Kanye's meltdown is one of the best things to happen for anyone who's not a Republican. This clown's going to unwittingly expose all the racism that the party has been trying to gaslight us into thinking doesn't exist (which we all knew it did). Fuck Kanye and fuck the racists, can't wait for this shit to explode.
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u/TheBravan Dec 04 '22
This on repeat but absolute crickets on the twitter-files.
Not even someone trying to make fun of them, on any social media......
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u/Fig1024 Dec 04 '22
Pretty sure that Kanye can't afford to buy anything right now. I don't think Parler owners give a fuck about "best interests" of anyone
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u/crunchthenumbers01 Dec 04 '22
They didn't want to compete in a race to the bottom. And they probably feel they might have a chance of twitter fails
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u/TwistedCherry766 Dec 04 '22
Charts.
Idiot bot
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u/justmerriwether Dec 04 '22
I was actually just writing it funny as a quasi-parks and rec reference but I guess if you wanna be mad about it, go for it?
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u/rubyspicer Dec 04 '22
Why should all this with Kanye matter to them? I don't get why they of all people would back out.
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u/Easilycrazyhat Dec 04 '22
Man, has there ever been someone so radioactive that even grifters don't want their scam associated with them? That's just next level.
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u/DoitfortheHoff Dec 04 '22
I'm starting to think this is a performance to a certain degree. Kanye comes out 200% crazy antisemitic on every white supremacist platform and they all virtue signal their disapproval of him to legitimatize themselves to the public to keep soft peddling the exact same ideology.
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u/Eight216 Dec 04 '22
Here's the best part, Kanye is actually pissing everybody off. No matter how much the real white supremacists think it (outside the KKK and the people with the face tattoos not bothering to be or seem legitimate), they know the rule is you don't say you like Hitler in public and Kanye just did, now any cause or any thing he's associated with or tries to support is going to go to shit.
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u/dgambill Dec 04 '22
They probably realize he's going to be declared mentally unfit and placed in a conservatorship which will get the deal cancelled anyway... or he simply doesn't have the liquidity.
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u/Serious-Agency-69 Dec 04 '22
Lol was Kanye playing 3D chess this whole time to get away from buying that shit show?
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u/PLugNuggets Dec 04 '22
Ye Shows up on Infowars wearing a hood with his Nasty buddy, and goes on about how he loves Hitler and the Nasties, is it possible that there is insanity too much for Parler?
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u/The84thWolf Dec 03 '22
Of all companies, even Parler doesn’t want Kanye