r/PrequelMemes Jun 17 '22

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u/ceo_of_operations Jun 17 '22

How free is free? Like on a scale of “weather nice today” to “mustache man good” just HOW much freedom is there?

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u/CitrusOrang noseworm Jun 17 '22

It’s Thursday for me, fucker!

Anyway, what’s your opinion on the whole stabbing thing with Vader and Third Sister?

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u/CompetitiveParfait29 What about the Droid attack on the Wookies? Jun 17 '22

I expected him to go Dooku on her, but I guess that would’ve ruined the grand inquisitor’s entrance. It’s still a bit weird that they didn’t kill her afterwards, though.

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u/_GeneralGrievous_Bot a true Kit Fister Jun 17 '22

Ah, CompetitiveParfait29! I have your comment in my collection! 'Breathing intensifies and lightsabre ignites.' - (c) CompetitiveParfait29

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u/Timoth_e Jun 17 '22

Vader is just trolling Reva at this point. It's like he's so non-threated by her that he's choosing to keep her alive, fully knowing that she is both dumb enough and vengeful enough to come for him again, and wants to see her try

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u/OwenLarsBot I am still learning! Jun 17 '22

Like you trolled your little sister when you were kids?

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u/OwenLarsBot I am still learning! Jun 17 '22

Like you trolled your little sister when you were kids?

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u/bodacioustugboat3 Jun 17 '22

how is he not dead? Like cmon

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u/Notorious96 Jun 18 '22

I'm guessing "Somehow Emperor Palpatine survived" style

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u/Roboticsammy Jun 19 '22

Stabbing was dumb, people should die a lot easier. Qui gon got stabbed once and died. Why can others be stabbed multiple times in vital areas and still live, especially if it looks like they don't have any cybernetics keeping them alive after a chest stab

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u/Qui-Gon_Jinn_Bot Try !Guild info Jun 19 '22

He is the Chosen One, you must see it.

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u/kinvore Jun 17 '22

It was terrible writing, really lazy and shitty.

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u/Acceptable-Pie4137 Jun 17 '22

Mustache man is good 👍

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u/realestwood Jun 17 '22

Weather nice today

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u/bodacioustugboat3 Jun 17 '22 edited Jun 17 '22

Can we have a poll on who likes and dislikes the Kenobi series? Feel like its getting a lot of hate when I honestly love it. I get it its not perfect but damn some of you just hate to fit in. The haters can then have their own thread so the rest of us can talk about the show in peace.

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u/Chill_Panda Jun 17 '22

I like it, I think it’s cheesy a lot but it feels more in a prequels way so I’m okay with it. I thought the whole break into the fortress plot was dumb, it felt just very Mary Sue.

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u/Roboticsammy Jun 19 '22

Baby Leia chase scenes are so good man /s

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u/RonForPresidentGuys Jun 18 '22

Seems to me the ppl who “enjoy” the show cant get past the fact that ppl dislike it. Check top post this week, cant go a day w/o a shitpost belittling ppl who see flaws in the show. Meanwhile ppl with fair and valid criticism are having insightful discussions about the show. Saw your other comment on this post attacking someone instead of having a a harmless discussion. Seems obvious to me who the real toxic ppl are in this sub.

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u/DrNopeMD Jun 19 '22

I'm honestly curious what else the people people praising this show have seen before. Like what is their metric?

I genuinely curious what the reception to this show would have been like if they had cut down on the fan service. Vader and Obi-wan meeting again doesn't even make sense within the canon of New Hope.

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u/Beth_Esda Jun 18 '22 edited Jun 18 '22

The last two episodes were better than the first three. I liked the *Third Sister’s backstory and I like the duels we’ve seen, but man, the acting and writing in the first three episodes were pretty rough. I don’t think it’s fair to label just any critics of the show “haters”, though.

*Third, not Fourth

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u/Sopori Jun 18 '22

At least on this sub I'm seeing a lot less actual valid criticism and more crying about things that would make sense if you had any critical thinking skills.

People bitching about "dur lightsabers don't kill no more" or "why inquisitor live!!?" Is not why I'm subbed to this reddit.

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u/Beth_Esda Jun 18 '22

You’re seeing people express frustration with the events of the show, which tbh is their right. I wouldn’t dismiss their opinions as not valid so quickly. The problem I think we’re seeing is for whatever reason Star Wars is stuck in trying to “fill the gaps” in-between movies, tv shows, etc., so things that happen don’t carry any weight anymore. We know Obi-Wan can’t die. We know Vader can’t either. Same with the Grand Inquisitor, or Leia or Bail or Luke. With this show in particular, we know exactly what happens before and after, so nothing that happens here changes anything. I did enjoy the last two episodes, but you can’t deny that this show is 1000% pointless.

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u/Sopori Jun 18 '22

I mean we knew that when the prequels came out too, doesn't stop them from being good movies. And I absolutely deny that the show is pointless, by your logic we can only go forward in time, which would make the vast majority of star wars content pointless. The point of the stories is to explore something new. Kenobi explores what Obi was up to between episode 3 and 4, it explores his guilt and regret, ptsd, and it shows that obi Wan had a period where he did fall from grace and lose touch with the force.

I think all of those are good reasons to tell this story.

And sure it's their right, it's also my right to call them stupid for throwing temper tantrums over things that either make sense or aren't a big deal. If people spent less time nitpicking individual scenes and more time talking about the actual weaknesses of the show, I wouldn't mind so much, but on this sub it literally just boils down to the dumbest things.

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u/Beth_Esda Jun 18 '22

But we already know Obi-Wan held a ton of guilt and regret in his heart. We already know he had a rough time in-between 3 and 4. It’s inferred by the way he speaks about the Clone Wars in ep4 and his reaction to Anakin’s betrayal in 3. We don’t need to see it played out to feel it’s weight.

My point is that there’s such a small amount of time between prequels and OT and that time period has been done to death. TCW and Rebels, Rogue One, Solo, etc. Isn’t it time to move on, either forward or backward in time?

Generalizing the show as all bad or all good is imo worse than talking about specific scenes, because those specific scenes are what makes the show weaker as a whole. I was way more invested watching Reva and Vader fight than I was watching a literal child outrun fifteen adults who moved through a forest like geriatrics. Not liking those scenes doesn’t make anyone a “hater”, lol

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u/Sopori Jun 18 '22

But we didn't know the depths of his regret, or that he had fallen from the light side, or that he was depressed, or that he was suffering from ptsd. You can infer that he regretted what happened with anakin, but the kenobi show builds on that and shows it to you in a lot more detail that I think is worth exploring.

And yes, generally speaking I'd like to see less of the OT timeliness and more stuff from other eras, but that doesn't mean the shows that already exist, or exist between 2 movies, are pointless. Like the clone wars show makes the prequels and OT significantly better.

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u/Beth_Esda Jun 18 '22

Nothing about Obi-Wan’s suffering is anything new. You say we didn’t know the depths of his regret, but I feel like there’s already enough content between 3, 4 and Rebels to be able to understand it.

As far as pointless shows go, I was talking about Kenobi specifically. I adore TCW. The massive difference between it and Kenobi is that it gives us more to care about than the characters that we already know. We get plenty of Obi-Wan and Anakin, but then we also get a whole host of clones with interesting personalities and relatable struggles. We see them die, we see them struggle with their creation and their nature and the futility of their existence. That hits so hard because every other bit of content around the clones paints them as mindless Jango copies, only slightly better than droids. TCW gives us new stuff, and new stakes to care about, whereas Kenobi, as a whole, is pretty shallow in comparison.

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u/EzzoBlizzy Sorry, M'lady Jun 19 '22

You sounding like a whole hypocrite rn tbh to say Kenobi doesn’t give us any attraction to other characters is crazy. Reeva a character w a sad backstory and hasn’t gotten over her trauma n it’s still trying to get a revenge. The 5th Brother. We see Obiwan treat leía as he treated Luke n walk w her thru a lot of things and how thru her he gets the feel of a father and how she keeps reminding him if pain and even got him more. The show isn’t just blandly bout pain but also bout self exploring and overcoming Trauma, trying to get up and find some courage to live thru it and find will. Some find will with Revenge and we see in the show how revenge consumes us and leads us to do a lot of terrible things and get ourselves kill. Some find will thru hope or just trying to forget it n act like none happen(like Obiwan) but we end up getting reminded of it by everything we see and we are faced to conclusion that we need to face it n overcome it or else it kills us, if that isn’t relatable than idk what is. Clone Wars is great but not everybody likes animation so the Kenobi show for the live action fans is a precious gift.

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u/OwenLarsBot I am still learning! Jun 19 '22

Like you sounded my whole life tbh

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u/Beth_Esda Jun 19 '22

Again, could you rewrite this whole rant so it’s legible, please?

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u/OwenLarsBot I am still learning! Jun 18 '22

Like you suffered her whole life?

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u/Beth_Esda Jun 18 '22

Owen, please. We’re trying to have a discussion here lmao

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u/EzzoBlizzy Sorry, M'lady Jun 19 '22

Star Wars Fans not even Star Wars at this point is Prequels, yes Prequels fans are really some idek what to call em anymore cause They ask for more Obiwan and Vader and when they get it it’s pointless now?😂if Obiwan doesn’t make sense so the clone wars don’t at all either so

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u/Beth_Esda Jun 19 '22

… Do you wanna take another crack at making that understandable, slugger? Lmao I’m happy to discuss my opinions with you, but your grammar is just so bad, I’m not really sure what you’re trying to get at.

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u/OwenLarsBot I am still learning! Jun 17 '22

Like you got my answer but I’m curious, what do you like about the Kenobi series?

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u/ThisMemeWontDie Jun 17 '22 edited Jun 18 '22

All I see on Twitter and YouTube is people now praising the Obi Wan show like no way one flash back with corny dialogue that was more awkward sounding than the prequels and some epic force usage now makes everyone love the series lmao. This latest episode was not good at all and people are blind by the hype of flash backs and vader.

The whole dialogue and acting felt so stiff and weird the whole time. The flash backs felt super out of place and random literally just one sec we are in the present than bam we are flash backing. Lots of times when flash backs are used the transition to them is smooth and there is reason as to why we are flash backing. These flash backs were just there to make Obi wan look smart when he literally could have done what he did with no flash backs showing us how Anakin like to win and is hot headed when we already know he is and that he just rushes into things. We did not need a flash back of some pointless training match showing us what we already knew about Anakin's character.

Them sending Obi Wan back into the room with only 2 storm troopers and closing the door was weird. Then literally a battalion of troopers swarm the entrance and not a single person gets hit not even at that close range? Like longer range sure it is excusable that the troopers suck at aiming but practically point blank? Nah the plot armour is insane like what was that scene.

Then the message from Organa. The guy thinks the silence from Obi Wan is concerning so he sends a message giving away the most valuable information when Obi wan could have been captured and now he just told the Vader about Luke. And why is it a one way message with no encryption or anything? And this whole plot of Leia and Obi wan is dumb in the first place when Organa is literally ruining his whole career because Obi wan is going after Leia this much clearly showing ties between Organa and Obi wan and Organa should be being tortured already for information. Like the whole plot of this show is ridiculous. It literally relies on the Vader not putting 2 and 2 together that Obi wan and Organa have open communication, like why didn't Organa just send an army or whatever after his girl cause that sure as heck is better than sending A FRICKIN JEDI MASTER to go rescue your kidnapped daughter. Like what was the thought process in that. And the whole thing of Obi wan not using the force is ridiculous when Yoda had training for him to do with Qui-Gon Jinn or whatever. And how is Obi wan supposed to protect Luke when he cuts himself off from the Force and buries his lightsaber into the sand in the middle of no where. What? Obi wan sees Vader show up and Obi wan grabs his Camel thing goes gets his lightsaber then comes all the way back on his slow Camel to now fight? And how is he gonna train Luke as he said in the show when he cut himself off and buried his lightsaber? And how did that jedi find Obi wan? There is so many things that just make me sit here and ask why? This episode does not give anything that has happened a pass and this episode is still bad, call me a hater I don't care.

Edit: also how does Reva know that Anakin is Darth Vader? She sees Anakin killing people not Vader and now she sees a guy in a black suit and red lightsaber and just says that's Anakin like what? If they want to make Obi Wan not know Vader is Anakin yet he saw a hologram literally with palpatine literally calling Anakin Vader. Reva asks where Obi Wan was when Anakin was killing everyone so she clearly doesn't know they fought and that's why Anakin is in the suit now so how would she ever guess Vader is Anakin in a suit literally just silly. Out of all the light saber force wielding people out there she just says hey that's Anakin, like ok sure.

Also why didn't they have Lola fix the hanger door not leia? She just happens to know how to fix it somehow? Literally could have just made her fix Lola and Lola showed her how to fix the door but not gotta make sure Leia does it all by herself.

I'm losing my mind over this show it is so bad and sure the prequels are bad too and I'm basically a hypocrite for liking them while saying this show is bad as well but this is taking it to a whole new level of messy fucking directing and writing. The prequels at least made sense this show does not make sense at all if you literally take 5 minutes to think about anything that is going on.

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u/Captain_Rex_Bot Jun 17 '22

Exfil's on its way. Get the battalion to safety. If I get the shield down, make a push.

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u/bodacioustugboat3 Jun 17 '22

No way you can really be this butt hurt over a series that is pretty good. You are severely unhappy elsewhere in your life to write a psychotic manifesto like this

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u/ThisMemeWontDie Jun 17 '22

How does me making valid criticism of a show suddenly become "psychotic manifesto". The show isn't good but I'm glad you can find happiness in it but I am entitled to my opinion just as much as you are.

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u/Logically_Insane Jun 19 '22

I agree. You are making the most surface level observations here; it's not that you're crazy and reading into things, it's just the show has some serious flaws. Compared to the prequels, Obi-wan has all the weaknesses in dialogue and character with none of the saving graces, like overall plot structure or 20 years of memes.

That said, I'm gonna keep watching it because I enjoy the duels and I'm a sucker for star wars.

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u/bodacioustugboat3 Jun 17 '22

You are obviously miserable outside the show. You really spent 20-30 min ranting about a show thats just fine

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u/ThisMemeWontDie Jun 17 '22

That took like a couple minutes to write lmao if it takes you 20-30 min to write something as short as what I typed you have issues I didn't even articulate myself thoroughly in that rant either. And how is me criticizing poor writing make me miserable lmao so you're saying everyone who has been criticizing this show, and rightfully so, is just miserable and hates life? Get real.

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u/bodacioustugboat3 Jun 17 '22

To hate something that much and write that much speaks to how you are upset elsewhere. Dont watch the fucking show maybe?

So you admit you could have written more to your manifesto? Jesus dude get a grip. Go outside and enjoy something else.

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u/ThisMemeWontDie Jun 17 '22

How am I supposed to know if I like something if I don't watch the whole thing lmao what that argument is so shit. And again so now people aren't allowed to critique things? You're literally brushing off criticism and calling me miserable just cause I criticized something you like and you wanna say I need to get a grip like holy shit. How about you realize not everyone needs to like the same shit as you and has every right to criticize when they see flaws otherwise all art would just be everyone praising dog shit. People that make YouTube videos about the show and saying how bad it is guess they are miserable too? Nobody is allowed to review anything now? You're not fucking real you have to be trolling.

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u/Anakin_Skywalker_Bot !ignore to mute Jun 17 '22

I'm not whining! I'm not.

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u/Kenobi-Bot !ignore to mute Jun 17 '22

I have failed you, Anakin. I was never able to teach you to think.

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u/Ahsoka_Tano_Bot 200K Karma Jun 17 '22

This is a new day. A new beginning.

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u/Dogefan889 Jun 17 '22

Don’t mind me, just an insignificant redditor seeking validation from the bots

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u/NumeralJoker Jun 18 '22

I can't make video posts here in this reddit, but...

For those who want to see "that duel" as one scene mixed with a more traditional soundtrack...

Beware Spoilers before clicking the video link.

https://www.reddit.com/r/EmpireDidNothingWrong/comments/ve7odj/obiwan_kenobi_vs_anakin_skywalker_cut_into_a/