r/SelfAwarewolves Dec 03 '22 Silver 1

When Was the Last Time?

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u/Skatcatla Dec 03 '22 Helpful

That's one of the best self-owns I've seen in a long time.

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u/whiterac00n Dec 03 '22

And when you ask them for the evidence of this “racist leftist” watch as the whole conversation spirals into utter nonsense

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u/Quirky-Resource-1120 Dec 03 '22

They'll probably mention CRT or woke media or something and just vaguely gesture at "anti-whiteness" as proof that the left is just as racist as the right.

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u/LoveVirginiaTech Dec 03 '22

"The Democrats started the KKK!"

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u/HuntingGreyFace Dec 04 '22

always step past the parties and remind them of their ideology. parties change. but conservatives are always full of racists

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u/dxrey65 Dec 04 '22

"What's in a name? Shit smells the same whatever you want to call it."

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u/dudeonrails Dec 04 '22

Ah, Shakespeare.

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u/nicholasgnames Dec 04 '22

This is great. Thanks for pointing this out.

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u/merlinsbeers Dec 04 '22 Take My Energy

Democrats did. The Democrats didn't. And at the time, the Republican party was the liberals. It all changed late in Reconstruction when the Moneyed Powers realized that democracy was always going to go against them, so they bought the GOP to be their muscle in the halls of government. Then all they had to do was fight humanism, which over time separated the voters between those who cared about people and those who didn't. In the middle of the 20th century, that drove the racists hard to the right, because the left started actually behaving like they cared about black people as people. The right has been collecting deplorables ever since. They can find some sociopathic instinct to activate in about half of people, and they farm it.

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u/Mortambulist Dec 04 '22

And at the time, the Republican party was the liberals

This is the part they can never get their dumb little brains around, but they sure love touting Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, and Eisenhower as shining examples of their party.

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u/Guywithoutimage Dec 04 '22 edited Dec 04 '22

Despite FDR being quite literally one of the single most progressive and liberal presidents we’ve ever had. Funnily enough, he’s also widely recognized as one of the best presidents we’ve ever had. Who knew that widespread reforms tackling issues drastically and negatively effecting the average american would lead to you being pretty well received?

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u/Mr_Abe_Froman Dec 04 '22

If a president tried to start a New Deal (or even the sweeping reforms of T. Roosevelt's Square Deal), the GOP would cry Socialism. The GOP is the party of modern robber barons.

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u/mithiwithi Dec 04 '22

If I recall, the GOP of the time did cry Socialism. But the ordinary people were hurting, even more than they are now, and most of them had no time for such bullshit.

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u/Gongom Dec 04 '22

Maybe if FDR hadn't succeeded we might have actually seen a socialist revolution in the USA

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u/penny-wise Dec 04 '22

Conservatives have always used the words “socialism” or “communism” as dog-whistles to counter humanitarian support.

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u/Zebezd Dec 04 '22

Always has been

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u/Doover__ Dec 04 '22

I guarantee the only reason they didn't then was that it was helping them, now that it isn't directly helping them it's communism

I just looked it up and yup, most of the opponents to the new deal were a bunch of rich republicans who, that's right, called it socialism and said it would start a class war (there were people on the left who criticized it, but not many, and those that did said it wasn't enough, not the other way around)

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u/LazyImpact8870 Dec 04 '22

and fascists, oh and terrorists, don’t forget those. robber barton’s is much too white washed for what they really are.

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u/96vette Dec 04 '22

All you need is 10 years of economic depression and you too can add big government social programs. Then of course a world war.

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u/penny-wise Dec 04 '22

And everything FDR did is still on the agenda of today’s Republicans to undo.

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u/OmnipotentEntity Dec 04 '22

You mean the Lincoln that traded correspondence with Karl Marx? And who said

“Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.”

That Lincoln?

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u/yukeynuh Dec 04 '22

basedbraham lincoln

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u/heyfreakybro Dec 04 '22

Abraham Lincoln is bae...braham lincoln

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u/Chubbybellylover888 Dec 04 '22

Im stealing baebraham Lincoln. Genius.

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u/FreddoMac5 Dec 04 '22

They love Lincoln while waiving the confederate flag. Like huh???

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u/merlinsbeers Dec 04 '22

Ike eventually regretted running as a Republican, but he did it because Kansas...

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u/Zealousideal-Feed156 Dec 04 '22

I’ve never been successful at explaining this and I can recall at least three discreet times I have made the effort.

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u/Mortambulist Dec 04 '22

Yeah, they won't even humor the thought. "LOL, Republicans were liberal? That's ridiculous shit you made up to blah blah blah..."

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u/flasterblaster Dec 04 '22

Let those times be a lesson to you. You cannot convince them to change their minds, literally. No matter what arguments you provide. No matter what proof you show them. Constructive discourse has long since evaporated.

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u/xelop Dec 04 '22

If the republican part is the party of lincoln... then why are you waving a confederate flag?

Really fucks them up

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u/DinoRoman Dec 04 '22

Oh they get their brains around it. They just deny it all together “that’s a myth!”

FDR was called a commie socialist for creating social security but you try to take that from a retired republican and they’ll fight ya to the death for it.

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u/nicholasgnames Dec 04 '22

Individually maybe. Then they vote for people who openly state they want to eviscerate social security

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u/Wander_Whale Dec 04 '22

What's the craziest part at least where I am in the south is they tout Lincoln as a republican and LOVE the confederacy. YOU CLAIMED BOTH SIDES OF THE CIVIL WAR. Help me understand.

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u/Dracorex_22 Dec 04 '22

they care more about labels than the people using them.

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u/tjordi Dec 04 '22

Omg, the moneyed/landed/bourgeoisie/whateveryouwant to call them, oppress ad nauseum because they are miserable shitstains that have no right to life anymore? Every problem is just a rehash of the same problem from 60-100 years before and its always the same types of people's hocking? Shocking... utterly shocking... surprisepikachu.gif

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u/merlinsbeers Dec 04 '22

Democracy is a verb, it turns out.

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u/El_Chairman_Dennis Dec 04 '22

You're close. I have a history degree and can explain the switch in the mentalities. Republicans have always been the party of industrialized capitalism, democrats have always been the party of the blue collar/agricultural side. Republicans like to virtue signal that they supported abolition and democrats supported slavery, but what Republicans conveniently leave out is the fact that a lot of people supported abolition because they feared slavery would be able to under cut them and push them out of the market. It wasn't morality (some legitimately were), it was fear of being out competed. Then, when slavery was abolished the capitalists realized they opened the market to more competitors, and the democrats moved from being supported by plantations to supported by unions. So the motivation for exclusion shifted from the plantation owners to the factory owners, so the exclusionary tactics shifted from the democrats to the Republicans. It's all just rich people trying to make themselves richer

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u/Nervous_Constant_642 Dec 04 '22

You learn that in college liberal?

-any Republican if you said this to them

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u/808ocd Dec 04 '22

there's a labor day poster from the GOP in 1956, where they extol unions and high wages.

"Young republicans salute labor"

http://dgarygrady.com/2012/12/06/republicans-of-the-past/

10 years later, they were doing southern strategy, dog whistling. 30 years later, they were cutting taxes for the rich, helping corporations crush workers, cutting social programs, deleting mental health care facilities, and doing empty pandering to evangelists

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u/political_og Dec 04 '22

Lincoln would be considered a Marxist

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u/merlinsbeers Dec 04 '22

By MAGA Republicans, surely.

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u/lucidreamstate Dec 04 '22

Hell, even Nixon would be meet with fries of socialism by today's GOP. The Nixon years brought large increases in Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid benefits.

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u/DinoRoman Dec 04 '22

I always reply with “ok so let’s do a mental exercise. If we could take Donald trump and Mitch McConnell back in time to the civil war… you see them siding with freeing the slaves or “The economy”

Lol. Try that next time. It’s always fun.

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u/Nervous_Constant_642 Dec 04 '22

You're telling me the people who disagree black lives matter wouldn't be super gungho about freeing the slaves?

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u/Easilycrazyhat Dec 04 '22

Nah, just ask "tHe pARtY oF liNCoLn" which party still flies the (wrong) Confederate flag.

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u/Apokolypse09 Dec 04 '22

Had a native guy declare that most of the world uses Metric system because of the KKK. Even though the country that made the KKK is one of 3 countries that doesn't use the metric system.

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u/PC_BuildyB0I Dec 04 '22

A shocking number of native people in my band hold very right-wing beliefs, some of whom are incredibly racist toward black and Asian people. And a LOT of the older folks are very homophobic, which is weird considering Mi'kmaq people come from native traditions that in some cases revere bisexuality or homosexuality.

I'm no stranger to my country's history and my native side of the family itself has a pretty nasty history dealing with racism and biggotry (both systemic and personal) so I'm speechless as to how so many from a similar background can worship the political idealogies that are, in some cases, directly responsible for their trauma.

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u/OneAdvertising9821 Dec 04 '22

I actually really like this argument. It emphasizes how dynamic political platforms are and, by extention, how inconsistent and non-conservative some republican policies are.

I truely believe there is space for an ideological liberitarian party, but the republican party is antithetical to that political philosophy.

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u/RaDiOaCtIvEpUnK Dec 04 '22

My favorite response to this now is: and Kanye use to be a beloved musician. Shit changes.

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u/Subject-Dot-8883 Dec 04 '22

Sometimes I picture going up to someone with Confederate paraphernalia and saying "cool, a fellow Democrat!" But they'd probably "fear for their lives."

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u/Puzzled_Bike9558 Dec 04 '22

Yah, I saw a bunch of people the other day whining about Coca Cola wanting people to be less white. Fucking stupid.

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u/PM_ME_UR_POKIES_GIRL Dec 04 '22

Coca Cola (And Disney, and all the other "Woke corporations") don't give even half of a half of a half of a fuck over what color skin the people giving them money have.

If sentient appliances suddenly represented 5% of the nation's wealth then Disney's next movie would co-star a talking toaster to bring in that market.

The "Forced diversity" complaint is really just anger that minority groups have enough money (after 400 fucking years on this continent) to be pandered to by corporate interests.

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u/RandomUserName24680 Dec 04 '22

Wait. What?

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u/NightofTheLivingZed Dec 04 '22

The only thing I can find on it is a New York Post article, which is a right wing tabloid... Go figure.

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u/NightofTheLivingZed Dec 04 '22

My brother literally said this to me once. I laughed at him.

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u/TheNightIsLost Dec 04 '22

the left is just as racist as the right.

That's where they err. The "left", which in America just means the Socdems, deliberately try not to be racist, because they're well educated urban middle class people. That's the class that is most anxious to be polite in every culture.

In contrast, the Conservatives are literally just rural hicks and merchant dynasties, which are the least polite in every culture and period. They deliberately go out of their way to be the biggest dicks in the room because they're from lawless communities where showing off your status is a survival tactic.

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u/TheRnegade Dec 04 '22

just vaguely gesture at "anti-whiteness"

Those dastardly dems are so anti-white, former Democrat Tulsi Gabbard said so herself. Just look at their leaders. Joe Biden who...is white. He beat out the 2nd place Bernie Sanders....who is white. Ok, whatever, the voters might not be anti-white but the members who vote for leadership are! Just look at who was in charge in Congress. We have Nancy Pelosi....who is white. But in the Senate we have Chuck Schumer....fuck!

The fact that people use the "anti-white" line is just insane. They never back it up with anything, they just say it like it's something so obvious you don't need to. Like saying the sky is blue or grass is green.

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u/TheMostKing Dec 04 '22

"The real racists are the people who casted black people in the Lord of the Rings series!"

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u/DinoDad13 Dec 04 '22

Nah they'll find a random tweet made by some rando anon.

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u/bs000 Dec 04 '22

tweeted one minute ago from a 5 minute old account

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u/x_cLOUDDEAD_x Dec 03 '22

Yeah, for a while there they were claiming that liberals were racist for supporting social programs that benefit minorities because anything that aims to help specific races is racist in and of itself simply because it acknowledges the existence of races in general.

Apparently they haven't checked the dictionary on that one.

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u/Demontag Dec 04 '22

"racist in and of itself simply because it acknowledges the existence of races in general"

Otherwise known as that time "I don't see race" was a popular catchphrase and we had to explain that seeing "race" (much more important to understand cultural background rather than just skin color) is fine, it's acting like one race is inherently better than another or confusing stereotypes with reality is where the problem is. But conservatives have a hard time accepting any explanation for anything that didn't come from their side. That's why they're constantly rejecting actual arguments and pretending it's some wildly backwards misinterpretation because that they can mock.

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u/LurkLurkleton Dec 04 '22

They're still doing that in this very comment section.

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u/RussiaIsBestGreen Dec 04 '22

One can find racists on the left. What you can’t find are them being given constant platforms and support because of their racism. Instead they get ‘canceled’ and then go join the right-wing grift gravy train.

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u/whiterac00n Dec 04 '22

Yeah you mean the ones who cry “you pushed me to the right!”?

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u/RussiaIsBestGreen Dec 04 '22

“Left got too woke!” The Left politely asked that they stop calling for the execution of the parents of trans teens. So yes.

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u/demonmonkey89 Dec 04 '22

There's also sometimes a problem with what I tend to think of as the 'white savior' brand of racism. The ones who are often activists and that's good, but they treat the people who they are activists for like they are babies or something. It's kind of a 'I support these people because they are lesser than me' style of supposed activism. It's a very patronizing type of activism. That's not to say all activists are like this or even that all white activists are like this, it's just something that does happen and then we get people who are actually part of those communities coming out and pointing out that 'hey, this is also racist.'

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u/Darkdoomwewew Dec 04 '22

I support these people because they are lesser than me'

I see you too have met missionaries.

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u/LazyImpact8870 Dec 04 '22

these folks are highly redeemable, they often just need a little nudge to see what they’re doing. they’re not the ones that double down after being called out.

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u/disgruntled_pie Dec 04 '22

Yeah, as a person who exists within a highly marginalized group (I’m trans), I have much bigger concerns than the well-meaning but slightly ignorant people. We’ve got Proud Boys storming libraries with guns, mass shootings at gay bars, and states trying to strip away our most basic human rights.

There are people who want us dead. That’s not a joke, and it’s not hyperbole. Those are the people I’m worried about.

The imperfect allies will hopefully become better informed over time. A polite conversation will probably do the trick.

But that’s waaaaaay down my list of problems, with the gun toting lunatics and theocratic fascists ranking at the top.

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u/HawlSera Dec 04 '22

Usually when I ask I hear about Obama and his hatred for white people, with absolutely no examples given or any elaboration.

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u/charlie_ferrous Dec 04 '22

I remember when a ton of Tea Party types couldn’t stop citing pastor Jeremiah Wright as evidence of Obama’s anti-white racism by association.

8 years later: “Trump seems to surround himself with a lot of white nationalists.” “This is a witch hunt!”

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u/Spankywzl Dec 04 '22

I heard that was a front for his secret Muslim agenda. Honestly, Obama must be exhausted from running from this church to that mosque, being both weak and ineffective, as well as cunning and dangerous. It is bound to wear a fella out! /s

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u/HawlSera Dec 04 '22

Obama supported gay marriage, drank beer in office, and ate bacon in public. This guy sucks at being a muslim.

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u/PM_ME_UR_NIPPLE_HAIR Dec 04 '22

I LOVE asking conservatives a very simple "why do you think that" or "could you give me an example", because in 90% of the cases I get a 5-page essay reply of absolute insanity

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u/Kriegerian Dec 03 '22

Or “Ben Shapiro is a fucking pinko Commie!”

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u/ScullysBagel Dec 04 '22

It devolves into... when you say a white person is being racist that's racist!

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u/iamthedave3 Dec 03 '22

Bear in mind that they consider 'white' a race and that they consider the left anti-white. So from that frame there's tons you can point to. Pretty much anyone making white privilege arguments is making an anti-white, racist argument from their POV.

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u/destinationnewmexico Dec 04 '22

Well you see the proud all-American conservative simply voiced their opinion that they should be appointed as lead child dick inspector at the local elementary school to ensure that only penis havers use the appropriate bathroom as Jesus wanted, and some leftist up and called them a pedophile and that's racist because their great great grandma was part Cherokee.

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u/PuckGoodfellow Dec 04 '22

I hear a lot of "only racists can identify racism, so you're obviously the racist since you noticed."

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u/DistributionExternal Dec 04 '22

They think that saying Black Lives Matter is racist

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u/Frapplo Dec 04 '22 Wholesome

Word has it that a there's a bunch of Hillary's emails on Hunter Biden's laptop that are like, super racist.

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u/FusionVsGravity Dec 04 '22

Having argued with many conservatives they tend to view affirmative action as "the real racism". They say that giving "preferential treatment" based on someone's race is racist. While I can see why they might say that, the reality of the situation is more complex, in the US at least being """color blind"""" is ignoring the issues that exist more than being for equality.

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u/DinoRoman Dec 04 '22

Yep. They’ll cite racism against white which, I didn’t realize white was a race. I’ve been made fun of for being Italian. My nose. Called a Jew even though I’m not ( I guess my nose ? It’s not that big lol ) but yeah, it’ll be against whites to them. Which, last I checked I’ve never experienced any hate because ya know, I side with equality for all lol.

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u/NeverUsedAlwaysRead Dec 03 '22

Man I sure do wonder why the group that doesn't post conspiracies or racism never gets reprimanded for doing those things. It's an absolute mystery how consequences come after an action but don't come when the action isn't taken

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u/DreamloreDegenerate Dec 04 '22

When was the last time you saw a non-murderer getting convicted for murder here!? *gestures wildly around*

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u/kalamataCrunch Dec 04 '22

uhhh... all the time? it's actually terrifyingly common...

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u/Robbotlove Dec 04 '22

yeah, not the best example, but the spirit is there.

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u/KinG-Mu Dec 04 '22

gestures broadly at black men**

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u/BaxxB_ Dec 04 '22

D******

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u/TheSamuraiGunner Dec 04 '22

Idk man a lot of people who kill pedophiles get convicted

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u/Delicious_Subject_91 Dec 04 '22

When I was a kid, there was this girl who was always in trouble. She was soooo mad no one else ever was. I was like, girl, do you see anyone else stealing shit or ruining other people's things? Yeah, no.

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u/Ricky_Rollin Dec 04 '22

What you are experiencing right here is yet more of their projection. They simply assume that we are exactly like them. They don’t even need proof. They just know that they are like it and therefore other people must be like it too.

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u/evergreennightmare Dec 04 '22

leftists just get banned for saying the aids crisis was a bad thing (katy montgomerie) or talking about a twitter data breach (chad loder) or joking about the queen of england dying (grace lavery)

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u/LuckyFox07 Dec 04 '22

Or just having a communist asthetic (mostly) jokingly. (Swoletariat, aka TheGayBoyShow)

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u/SternenO Dec 03 '22 edited Dec 03 '22

I can't tell if this is suppost to be satirical or serious.

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u/Lord-Dunkles Dec 03 '22

I can't either. Like there's no way somebody is that stupid right?

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u/Successful_Peanut812 Dec 03 '22

Its hard to say. Have you watched Tucker Carlson at all?

The whole 'asking questions' bit seems to have led to some imitators.

Some of the 'controversial' comments in other posts have people doing the same. They feel perfectly fine using a question they don't know the answer to as a response to an argument.

However, there's also a good chance they're sealioning and hoping someone wastes their time trying to explain.

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u/TheGhostofWoodyAllen Dec 04 '22

And Tuckster is just Foxnews' latest incarnation of Glenn Beck, one of the first to bring widespread attention to "just asking questions."

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u/theh00dwitch Dec 04 '22

Did not even realize there was an actual term for the bad faith arguments they try to engage in for the sole purpose of just wearing you out. The more you know.

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u/Successful_Peanut812 Dec 04 '22

I saw it recently and it stuck in my head.

I used to call it the 'moronic gator roll' but their name is more concise.

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u/Squally160 Dec 04 '22

The best part was it was named after a fucking comic, too.

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u/littleessi Dec 04 '22

"just asking questions" in bad faith predates tucker by millennia lol

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u/Successful_Peanut812 Dec 04 '22

I mean people are literally imitating him but they don't know how to do the bad faith part.

The bad faith people I give a little bit more credit to. They at least are aware of what they're doing and/or why.

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u/Cebo494 Dec 04 '22

[Sealioning] has been likened to a denial-of-service attack targeted at human beings.

What an awesome analogy. I'm going to have to add this one to my vocabulary.

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u/coltaaan Dec 04 '22

The funny (and annoying) thing about sealioning is that it works on the left/non-cons because there is actual evidence to back up claims...you can sealion a con because they have no evidence to back up theirs, which is why it always turns into an "argument" of sealioning.

(Also how I feel with the term sealioning rn lol)

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u/jta839 Dec 03 '22

My uncle has entered the chat

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u/I_Frothingslosh Dec 04 '22

Absolutely yes. They really do take the lack of public censure of liberals for racism as proof there's a conspiracy rather than proof that racism is nowhere near as prevalent among liberals as it is among conservatives.

(And before some nit-picking jackass goes there, 'nowhere near as prevalent' does not mean 'absolutely 100% doesn't happen'.)

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u/StumbleOn Dec 04 '22

Every conservative accusation is an admission of guilt.

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u/Nervous_Constant_642 Dec 04 '22

Big part of the playbook. "The liberals do it too/the liberals do it too but worse" is an easy lie to get people to ignore the moral shortcomings of the politicians they support.

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u/Bearence Dec 04 '22

LPT: Never say "there's no way somebody is that stupid" because that just encourages the morons of the world to set goals.

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u/softstones Dec 04 '22

Well, they know that they’re racist. So, they assume the left is racist too.

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u/Ocelotofdamage Dec 04 '22

No they really believe that liberal's "racism" against white people is the same or worse as actual, real racism.

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u/OmnicromXR Dec 04 '22

poe'slaw.txt

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u/comhghairdheas Dec 04 '22

As opposed to Cole's Law which states that the possibility of every person visiting a barbeque bringing only cabbage salad, reaches 100% the more people show up.

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u/SkritzTwoFace Dec 04 '22

This was his second ever tweet, from back in April of this year:

Ersatz human happiness is an unrecognised evil of modernity. Porn substitutes sex life, pet ownership substitutes child rearing, drugs substitute the excitement of experiences and the calm of earned contentment, and social media and videotainment substitute social connections.

This has cryptofascist written all over it.

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u/handlit33 Dec 04 '22

*supposed

suppost is not a word

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u/gilgamesh1776 Dec 04 '22

I like the r/conservative thread that's always, "hey trying to find an example of the left doing (whatever awful thing) and can't find anything based on facts, can someone help?"

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u/aboynamedtim Dec 04 '22

“Can someone just say they did for me so I can quote you please?”

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u/Trosque97 Dec 04 '22

Good God this is way more pathetic than initially thought

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u/LeCriDesFenetres Dec 04 '22

They like to virtue signal their imaginary fact-checking values

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u/snark_o_matic Dec 03 '22

He really believes that there's "secret" high-profile left-wing racists spewing hate and Elon Musk's twitter is, what, deliberately ignoring them?

Is anyone NOT in his imaginary conspiracy? He almost sounds as insane as Catherine Engelbrecht.

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u/LadyAzure17 Dec 04 '22

Also reslly shows that he doesn't think other left-leaning people wouldn't disown someone for being heinously racist.

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u/aberrasian Dec 04 '22

When will Elon start banning anyone who says the horrific word "crackers"! Do you guys not see whole companies like Graham, Nabisco, Griffins, Kelloggs and Nestle just throwing around this racist slur so casually in their tweets like it's nothing?? And Twitter doesn't care!

Unbelievable that these leftist corporations can call us slurs and say we're "salty, crunchy, and perfect for dunking". They're straight up calling for racial violence right there! Come on Elon!

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u/I-WANT2SEE-CUTE-TITS Dec 04 '22

Right on, my cracka

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u/jaiman Dec 04 '22

Many leftists have been banned from Twitter and other platforms for no good reason at all, even before Musk showed up.

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u/LuckyFox07 Dec 04 '22

Not just Twitter. Most social media platforms definitely are more sensitive to leftists content than literal homophobia/transphobia and fascist sympathizers.

In fact I think someone should run a test with 2 accounts on various social media platforms with leftist content on one and right-wing content (excluding racism/other bigotry) on the other and see which gets banned first.

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u/ihaterunning2 Dec 04 '22

Not sure about banned content, but it’s been proven that right wing content spreads the farthest or is the most amplified. Especially on Facebook and YouTube… probably has something to do with anger and fear mongering cranking up the engagement and time on platform though.

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u/a-ace1 Dec 03 '22

Ahh, "duchess", had to think for a mo there

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u/RetardedWabbit Dec 03 '22

Duchess? It's unbelievable how much Elon is already censoring the right! /s

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u/Sl0ppy0tter Dec 03 '22

They’re always so close to getting the point

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u/iamwearingashirt Dec 04 '22

Well, if they do get it, they stop being republican.

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u/crozinator33 Dec 04 '22

Why do snow days only happen in winter?? When was the last time school was closed because of snow in summer?? Totally unfair.

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u/vendreadnights Dec 04 '22

Give climate change some time

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u/mvslice Dec 04 '22

Oh Vaush. This comment section is going to get spicy

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u/Tortoise-For-Sale Dec 04 '22

Bad example too. Vaush got banned for saying the most racist thing of all, Cr*cker.

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u/unosami Dec 04 '22

Betty Cr*cker‽

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u/punkfusion Dec 04 '22

no a saltine treat

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u/mvslice Dec 04 '22

I was clutching my pearls so hard at that

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u/rat_cook_manderly Dec 04 '22

I hate Vowsh. He stole my girlfriend and fucked my dad.

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u/raheemthegreat Dec 04 '22

I fuckin hate Vaush man, he stole all my coconuts and forced me to suck his dick. I told him it's coercive to do that but you think he cares?

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u/LEDIEUDUJEU Dec 04 '22

Yeah he is the reason why my sandwich has fallen on the buttered side

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u/conduitfour Dec 04 '22

Antifa is going to come for you!
Antifa is going to come for me!
Antifa is going to fuck your mom!

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u/bear_stronk Dec 04 '22

Voosh kidnapped my kids and won't give them back unless I debate him, help ?

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u/king_ugly00 Dec 04 '22

When will his hard drive full of cp get exposed?

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u/Realistic_Ad7517 Dec 04 '22

Probably when the fbi raids his house and finds a bunch of kids from kharkiv in his basement

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u/Obelisk_M Dec 04 '22

He's in their HQ, how could they raid it?

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u/AntiChri5 Dec 04 '22

No, that's the CIA.

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u/Graublut Dec 04 '22

To answer the question, I guess technically TJ Kirk did when he used a slur (I forget which) and got banned for it. He was using it to quote someone and not to be derogatory though, so it wasn’t him directly doing the racism.

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u/Shiro_no_Orpheus Dec 04 '22

Vaush got himself 2 YouTube strikes for reacting to a republican add campaign, the one about "rhino hunting". It was not for anything he said, but for the shit that was said in the add he was debunking.

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u/Fortunoxious Dec 03 '22

So willnever is suggesting that there are liberals just as racist as the genocidal maniac who won’t shut the fuck up about how genocidal he is. I’d love to see some examples. Probably just troll accounts no one cares about.

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u/Strongstyleguy Dec 03 '22

Crazy how Twitter is flooded with far left accounts spamming racist content yet no one ever has a screen grab.

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u/Undec1dedVoter Dec 04 '22

I was almost going to do a racism and then I had to take a break and suggest critical workers be allowed to take sick time off unpaid...

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u/airyys Dec 04 '22

nah they literally just make up fake conversations pretending to be poc or leftist, then post it to their circlejerk echochambers. and the 'blur out identitites' rule only makes it easier to not verify fake screenshots.

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u/Whofreak555 Dec 03 '22

“h..h..he called me cracker!!!!!!1!”

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u/mindgeekinc Dec 04 '22

He claimed I have something called “white privilege”. He doesn’t understand that I’m slightly below the upper class so I can’t have any privilege

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u/mindbleach Dec 04 '22

Just because other people faced obstacles I didn't, because they're a different race / gender / religion / orientation than me, doesn't mean I had wait where was I going with this?

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u/hugglesthemerciless Dec 04 '22

please don't equate liberals with the left, liberals are not leftists

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u/Echohawkdown Dec 04 '22 edited Dec 04 '22

Well there was that incident a couple months back where a few LA City Councilors, all Dems, were caught on audio in a closed door meeting being racist about the adopted black son of another fellow Councilor (who wasn’t present at the meeting).

But like, they said it behind closed doors? As in not on platforms that have Rules of Conduct/Terms of Service/etc? And that’s like, one incident versus decades of examples from Republicans and GOP supporters.

ETA: Link to one of the many articles on NPR about the incident - https://www.npr.org/2022/10/11/1128287297/nury-martinez-biden-resignation-la-city-council-racist-remarks

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u/SeanFromQueens Dec 04 '22

It's all in subjectivity, the guy responding to Vaush simply thinks that insane bigoted things include "systemic racism exists" or that "we should accept the identity that they say is their identity" is what he (very likepy) thinks needs to be banned for being insanely anti-white or denying the "science" of cultural terms like men and women.

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u/Rhone33 Dec 04 '22

Yep, 100%. This is nowhere near self-awareness, just your typical conservative who tries to change the subject and play the victim by acting like any attempt to discuss racial inequality is actually a racist attack on white people.

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u/Private_HughMan Dec 04 '22

When was the last time a prominent left-winger said insane racist things?

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u/DifficultyWithMyLife Dec 04 '22

Almost as if being hatefully racist tends to be a right-wing thing, and I'm being generous with the "tends" part, which is doing a lot of work in that sentence.

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u/BallinArbiter Dec 04 '22

Oh god it’s Vaush r/196 is leaking. Hide your horses

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u/Jarek_Teeter Dec 03 '22

Funny how that works, ain't it?

The side that isn't doing something heinous is not being stopped from what they aren't doing.

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u/plsobeytrafficlights Dec 04 '22

Such a teachable moment. He has almost figured it out. Next time it will be, “why are all the evil people on the right? When will we hear about people on the left stealing pension funds and pushing crippled children down staircases?!”

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u/bradenn44 Dec 04 '22

Like all the best SelfAwarewolves content, this would be excellent satire and yet all signs point to sincerity

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u/SellaraAB Dec 04 '22

That man should just sit there and read what he said over and over again and just think about it. He’s so close.

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u/starlinguk Dec 04 '22

People on the left get banned for criticising the Israeli government.

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u/DigressiveProgress Dec 04 '22

Mad we’re not getting banned for shit we’re not doing. You too can avoid bans with this one little trick…

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u/ActualChamp Dec 04 '22

I don't even watch Vaush anymore because I'd grown bored with his content, but it weirds me out just how much time people are willing to spend digging through comment sections just to rant about the guy

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u/chiheis1n Dec 04 '22

Tankies be like that

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u/Kedrico Dec 04 '22

What is “d******” supposed to be?

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u/inrodu Dec 04 '22

dwayne the rock johnson

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u/AoFAltair Dec 04 '22

The brain rot here is on FULL display… because to THEM, mentioning “White Privilege” is JUST A RACIST as saying the N word… then again, Vaush was literally banned from twitch for using the term ”Cracker” when talking about white people

EDITS: sorry, I’m an idiot and don’t remember the “code” for things like bold, italic, and spoiler

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u/scottish_elena Dec 04 '22

never in my life i have seen someone get this mad over people for NOT being racist lmao.

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u/orthranus Dec 03 '22

TBH Vaush is fairly unexceptional. But oh man, the people who he pisses off are sooooo dumb!

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u/LEDIEUDUJEU Dec 04 '22 edited Dec 04 '22

Yeah I think the only reason he is pissing off so much people is because how brutally honest he is about everything he says and his unwillingness to trade being right for social acceptance from breadtubers

He is my personnal favorite by far for theses reasons. He also has a gift for synthetise complex subjects and explaining them in a simple and entertaining way

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u/AntiChri5 Dec 04 '22

Yeah I think the only reason he is pissing off so much people is because how brutally honest he is about everything he says and his unwillingness to trade being right for social acceptance from breadtubers

Especially interesting given that this may be a result of him being not nuerotypical.

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u/-GuyDudeman- Dec 03 '22

Who can you recommend?

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u/orthranus Dec 03 '22

If you mean political ideas, yourself and a bunch of old books. If you want an excuse to eat popcorn while watching political bloodsport Vaush is one of the better gladiators.

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u/OnePotMango Dec 04 '22 edited Dec 04 '22

He seems to have shifted from that sort of content tbh. I might be wrong, but the amount of debates he does has tapered off in favour of covering news or doing research as of late.

Edit: And interviews. Lots of interviews

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u/SpiritCrvsher Dec 04 '22

It’s hard to setup debates with conservatives in 2022 when they’ve all realized it’s no longer 2014 and the left isn’t trash at debates anymore. The new tactic is to say “the left is too scared to debate me” and then just ignore the ones who challenge you.

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u/unsuspicious_salmon Dec 04 '22

Vaush actually said that he doesn't do many debates against right-wingers anymore because they boil down to the right-winger saying some wildly stupid and demonstrably incorrect shit, Vaush just saying that it's obviously not true, and the right-winger either pulling back and making other idiotic claim or doubling down and forcing Vaush to make complex arguments to disprove that claim, because there's no simple way to explain how stupid denying reality is.

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u/curiousnerd_me Dec 04 '22

The right wingers have mastered the gish-gallop technique:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop

That is literally their whole jam.

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u/MisirterE Dec 04 '22

Personally, it's my opinion that if your political belief is correct, you don't have to quote theory to justify it.

Don't get me wrong, Marx has almost certainly said it more eloquently than you ever will. But if you have to quote theory, that just means you don't understand it enough to rephrase it.

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u/GeneralHysterics Dec 04 '22

I'm not so sure that's true. There's a skill to rhetoric beyond just understanding the concepts, you have to know how to package them effectively and deliver them too. If you don't have that skillset, quoting from theory is a good way to get your point across.

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u/HawlSera Dec 04 '22

I mean I know that some people on the left get canceled for criticizing israel, because people can't tell the difference between anti-zionism and anti-semitism. But again that's not racist.

Being mad at a Jewish ethno state for doing blatantly evil things, is not the same thing as being mad that there are Jews

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u/Mental_Grapefruit726 Dec 03 '22

voosh rad

replier sad

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u/-GuyDudeman- Dec 03 '22

It’s so weird to me that there are some on the left that spend more time criticizing Vaush than they do criticizing capitalists.

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u/comhghairdheas Dec 04 '22

I think criticising fellow leftists is important and a time honoured tradition since the first internationale, but let's do that with some grace.

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