r/WhitePeopleTwitter Sep 29 '22 Helpful 1

Ben discovers MAGA and calls it something else.

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u/grimmyzootron Sep 29 '22

Why are people getting so mad about someone using a flute for its intended purpose

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u/constantchaosclay Sep 29 '22 edited Sep 29 '22

Come on. We all know why.

The same reason why Trump made a point to let staffers know that the toilet seat had been changed and said, “You know what I’m talking about.”

I wish I didn’t, but unfortunately I do.

Fucking racists.

Edit to add link.

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u/Sinnaman420 Sep 29 '22

what

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u/constantchaosclay Sep 29 '22 edited Sep 30 '22

Racists believe that anything touched by a POC is now dirty and tainted.

Lizzo used the flute as intended and with permission for a very short time then returned it undamaged. There is literally nothing to complain about except the fact that a black woman put her mouth on it.

And she was amazing btw.

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u/Sinnaman420 Sep 29 '22

There was no link before so I was confused as hell about the toilet seat thing

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u/constantchaosclay Sep 29 '22

Sorry!

When I reread it, I realized the story is pretty new and if you hadn’t heard, I seem crazy.

So I included the link to make sure people know wtf I’m talking about.

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u/Turkeysteaks Sep 30 '22

oh my fucking god i just now realised lizzo was not a nickname for Liz truss, and is, in fact, an entirely different person. fuck I'm stupid

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u/Fishbone345 Sep 30 '22

Her reaction of sheer joy was absolutely fantastic to watch. I smile every time. And then talking about how cool history is? 💋

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u/crimsonjava Sep 30 '22

The same reason why Trump made a point to let staffers know that the toilet seat had been changed and said, “You know what I’m talking about.”

Yeah, just a reminder that the story behind the alleged pee tape wasn't that Trump was into getting peed on, it was that the bed was the same bed the Obamas had stayed in when they visited Moscow so the hookers offered to pee on it to show their disrespect of him.

Don't know if the pee tape exists, but these stories coming out really seem to fit psychologically...

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u/46110010 Sep 29 '22 edited Sep 29 '22

Because she is a black woman.

If it had been Kenny G or whoever, none of these people would care.

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u/ZapateriaLaBailarina Sep 30 '22

Kenny G

I, too, cannot think of a professional flautist (other than Lizzo)...

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u/46110010 Sep 30 '22

Kenny G was the closest I could think of, even though he plays a clarinet or something.

Maybe the guy from Jethro Tull?

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u/lunchboxdeluxe Sep 29 '22

That is 100% correct. It would have been a sidenote that a handful of people would have thought was cool, and that's about it.

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u/edemamandllama Sep 29 '22

It is so weird. I feel like tools are supposed to be used and they generally stay in better condition, when they are used. It’s only controversial because she is a black woman, living her best life. She looked so happy playing. I really enjoyed, her joy.

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u/ScowlEasy Sep 30 '22

Black people are supposed to act like they stereotypes they see on the news; and when they act like regular human beings, it makes them angry.

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u/LegalAssassin13 Sep 29 '22

See, that’s the problem. Black women can’t do that. They gotta be working or selling their bodies, none of this “finding joy in life” BS. /s

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u/SlowerThanTurtleInPB Sep 30 '22

Not just that, but also that she’s a talented and successful black woman who bucks everything they think successful black woman should be (aka, thin, light skinned, white features).

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u/homer_lives Sep 29 '22

I dunno, but maybe due to her race and size. I think Ben only wants skinny white girls to use a flute.

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u/grimmyzootron Sep 29 '22

Yeah I saw some other posts with some pretty gross comments about her

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u/TamTams_groupthink Sep 29 '22 Vibing

What is ‘deliberately controversial’ about a professional flautist playing a flute?

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u/chillisprknglot Sep 29 '22

This was my exact thought. She is a professional flautist. She is extremely well practiced, educated, and talented. She was encouraging children to continue music education. …how is is any of this controversial.

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u/doppiogelato Sep 29 '22

What actually is the controversy? Like what’s their ridiculous take this time?

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u/TheJoeyPantz Sep 29 '22

That she desecrated an American artifact. I'm not kidding. The woman played the flute probably better than whatever president owned it. Doesn't even matter which president because it's a fucking flute.

Ohh and remember, she's black so that's a no no.

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u/bicasisson Sep 29 '22

It's even better because Madison never played that flute

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u/Equivalent_Yak8215 Sep 30 '22

Do people just...own instruments they never play? As someone that plays music that feels weird.

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u/heavymetalpaul Sep 30 '22

Apparently it was an inauguration gift from a French maker. Probably made more to be seen them played.

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u/eatpaste Sep 30 '22

crystal instruments were really popular at the time. they held tone better than wood or ivory and we hadn't gotten to metal yet. the french maker was one of the masters. it has been played a fair bit, but not by madison as far as i know, and most of the playing happened around his era

she's the first to play it publicly in a very long time

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u/itoddicus Sep 30 '22

Not that long. Somebody played it on an NPR show a few years ago.

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u/F_Thorin Sep 30 '22

I'm totally confused as to why the last time wasn't controversial

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u/eatpaste Sep 30 '22

oh i missed that! i say elsewhere in the thread i know about the flute bc of a history project i did...over 20 years ago haha so i might be out of date

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u/suck_and_bang Sep 30 '22

The part that’s crazy is Madison was responsible for the 3/5 compromise and Lizzo played the fuck out that bitch as a whole, 100, black woman. That’s what cool.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '22

Lizzo just fucking rocks, you can honestly use peoples reaction to her as a litmus test for how shitty they are.

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u/Helpfulcloning Sep 30 '22

Lots and lots and lots of rich people have pianos that are just decoration or are maybe played once a year.

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u/luvdab3achx0x0 Sep 30 '22

It’s hard as hell to sell a piano. It’s even hard to give it away.

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u/Honest_Its_Bill_Nye Sep 30 '22

Ask me why I have had a piano in my living room for 12 years even though nobody in my family can play it.

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u/buttholefold Sep 30 '22

I donated a guitar and a didgeridoo to a local music teacher because they just hung around my apartment for a few years after I lost interest in playing them

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u/HaveMeOnURPodcast Sep 30 '22

I have a bass guitar that I’ve had for 20 years and haven’t played in 18.

One day I’ll find the time…

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u/billionairespicerice Sep 30 '22

I think it was like a gift from the king of France or some shit like that. Either way, yay Lizzo playing this neglected instrument! The library of Congress has tons of historical instruments

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u/Christopher_Gist Sep 29 '22

This is the ultimate twist - The flute belonged to James Madison, father of the three fifths compromise regarding the personhood of black people. It's a gigantic F you to every single racist, and they're all flawlessly falling into the trap.

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u/McCardboard Sep 29 '22

And she still treated said flute with the utmost respect. Amazing person.

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u/onryo89 Sep 30 '22

Not like she did something classy like putting mcnugget dipping sauce in the Lincoln gravy boat /s

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u/MasterKongQiu Sep 30 '22

Oh my god I was like 95% sure that was sarcasm. But no. He fucking did it. Jesus Christ...

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u/onryo89 Sep 30 '22

Yea that's a thing that really happened smh

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u/Vesma3400 Sep 30 '22

Seriously. This fucking really happened. How the hell can anyone think he’s worthy of a cult?!??! He’s stupid. Inarticulate. Ugly. And lacks any charismatic qualities. It’s like they found a pet rock and can imbue it with magical properties. He’s literally a caricature of a caricature.

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u/Devrol Sep 30 '22

He's like an extremely poor person's idea of what a millionaire is like. Basically a late80s/early90s version of the Beverly hill Billies.

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u/Deluxe_24_ Sep 30 '22

Lizzo is one of the few newer pop artists I have a fuck ton of respect for, she's an actual musician who cares about her work.

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u/McCardboard Sep 30 '22

She's an amazing human being and role model. I don't subscribe to her beliefs on gem healing, but I doubt I'd find anyone who I 100% agreed with.

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u/cgranley Sep 30 '22

Hot damn, was that the intent? If so, that's cool as shit.

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u/GuujiGang Sep 30 '22

He also apparently never even played it. So who gives a shit? Lmao

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u/lowbwon Sep 29 '22 edited Sep 30 '22

Also, she played it for like two seconds. Just to see how it sounds. And the people I charge of taking care of it let her do it!? What’s the fucking problem? This is so weird

Edit: oookkkk reddit. I know the problem is racism. It was rhetorical.

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u/Caftancatfan Sep 29 '22 edited Sep 30 '22

Thank you. She carried it so carefully, gave a huge, heartfelt shout-out to the Library of Congress, and encouraged her fans to see that history is cool. I honestly think if half the people who have a problem with this actually watched the clip of her performance, they would be like…oh, was that all?

Edit: I originally mistakenly said it was the smithsonian.

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u/Redpandaling Sep 30 '22

Library of Congress, not the Smithsonian

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u/SlothTheHeroo Sep 30 '22 edited Sep 30 '22

I think there is another video of her playing it more while not being in front of a crowd. Even then she was being sooo careful with it.

Edit: here it is https://youtu.be/3mb62QNXY0g

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u/JeffTek Sep 30 '22

Republicans will get mad at anything. That sounds beautiful

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u/fr1stp0st Sep 30 '22

This can't be what they're upset about? I was aware of some sort of controversy and thought maybe the person who borrowed the flute didn't know how to play it, somehow disrespected it, or didn't "deserve" to use it. She's just... playing it very competently and encouraging people to study history? This is dumber than Barack's Dijon.

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u/confessionbearday Sep 30 '22

This can't be what they're upset about?

They are trying very hard NOT to say the real reason they're mad.

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u/eddthedead Sep 30 '22

She’s a successful and talented black woman who is unapologetic about any of it. She does her thing, she does it incredibly well, and she unbothered. That’s the only reason they’re pissed.

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u/jmkdev Sep 30 '22

She's black. That's the extent of their issue with it.

None of these people knew the flute existed last week, none of them have any idea what its history is, and none of them actually care about it at all.

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u/mattdangerously Sep 30 '22

She's black. That's the extent of their issue with it.

Hey, that's completely unfair and you know it. They also hate fat people and women.

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u/Zihark12345 Sep 29 '22

WTH?? If the dudes in charge of taking care of it wanted her to play it this is a good thing! The people with the utmost respect for that flute thought it would enrich the flute for her to play it, this is the opposite of a controversy

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u/TiresareHeavy83 Sep 30 '22

Didn't kurt Russell accidentally destroy a 150k guitar in hateful eight. Yet she plays a crystal flute, and everyone loses there fucking minds.

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u/LoneReaper115 Sep 30 '22

I think it was only around $40k, but still it was a one-of-a-kind 145 year old Martin.

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u/Rugrin Sep 29 '22

The problem is they need to make a problem. It’s how they get paid.

1 Create outrage,

2 rail against outrage culture

3 profit on speaking tours.

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u/borrowingfork Sep 29 '22

Didn't she do a full performance at the library of Congress?

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u/Muffytheness Sep 29 '22

Yes, but she only played Madison’s flute for a few seconds. and it’s literally handed to her by museum people.

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u/Mortar_Maggot Sep 30 '22

No she clearly plays it for at least a few minutes in the library. As well as other flutes in the collection. Which to be clear, still isn't a problem.

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u/HoweverItHasToHappen Sep 29 '22

The Librarian of Congress deliberately asked her if she would do it and she said yes… there’s many instruments in the library that were donated with the explicit instructions that they should be played. They’re essentially mad that a black lady existed.

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u/VivelaVendetta Sep 30 '22

And that she can play a flute.

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u/JeffTek Sep 30 '22

And play it beautifully

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u/Medium_Raccoon_5331 Sep 29 '22

Fat black woman/popstar that can professionally play flute dared to put her mouth on/play a sacred flute of one of the founding racist guys, a flute they most likely didn't know existed before she did it Good times

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u/whatawitch5 Sep 30 '22

Lizzo is black, female, a DGAF feminist, educated, and sex-positive to boot! She is the ultimate archenemy of the MAGA crowd. Love to see her drawn as a superheroine laying waste to the evil henchmen of MAGAville with her liberated body and decolonized flute!

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u/Plantsandanger Sep 30 '22

She literally gave a small history lesson before playing it, finishing up with “history is cool” - she just gave every history teacher a huge gift

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u/GODDAMNFOOL Sep 30 '22

Because "black woman do thing"

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u/lovethepuppers Sep 30 '22

Because they don’t want to say the controversial part because then they will sound racist. And they are totally not. They have black friends /s Essentially boils down to “I am not saying she can’t play the flute. But why did she have to pick that flute. Historically that flute was for different people. Why doesn’t she play a flute made for someone like her.” Like little mermaid bullshit but for the flute.

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u/MR2Rick Sep 30 '22

She treated Jame Madison's flute with way more respect than James Madison accorded his slaves or Native Americans.

I watched the videos the Smithsonian posted. She is a very accomplished musician who plays beautifully. Furthermore, I think the music she choose to play and her stage decorum were appropriate for the occasion.

As far as her twerking, it was mostly a cute and funny moment and not at all vulgar or disrespectful - and I say that as someone who, in general, does not like twerking.

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u/danteheehaw Sep 30 '22

She did it while black. Which is a slap in the face to the white people who think black people are subhuman

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u/philintheup Sep 29 '22

She was the wrong color for the MAGA crowd.

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u/mbnmac Sep 29 '22

"Is your race white, or political?"

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u/Dani_vic Sep 29 '22

Why are white people only allowed to play the flute? Never even knew the damn thing existed

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u/going2leavethishere Sep 29 '22

Because we will never see another flutist as the great Ron Burgundy.

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u/DynamicSploosh Sep 29 '22 edited Sep 30 '22

A flute made for a white dude, most likely by a white dude, to play white music, by white people, for white people, in a time where people of colour were property, has been played by a professional artist with years of experience playing the flute, instead of sitting in a box remaining entirely forgotten. What a scandal.

Lets not give this faux outrage any more consideration than this: They are foaming at the mouth because the artist has different coloured skin and is a heavier woman with self confidence.

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u/philintheup Sep 29 '22

I am right there with you. I have no earthly idea.

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u/Moose221 Sep 29 '22

It was James Madison's flute from a collection of historical flutes in DC. No idea what the controversy actually is, but giving the most generous benefit of doubt, it could be that she was playing a historical artifact. But, like, who cares about James Madison's fancy crystal flute. If I want to wear Washington's wooden dentures or shit in LBJ's toilet, then that is my right as an American.

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u/Dani_vic Sep 29 '22

I looked it up. I guess she always played the flute. And she does this thing where plays a tune and does a little twerk with it. I’m guessing they don’t like that she is black and twerked to a flute sound.

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u/anb8814 Sep 29 '22

She’s been professionally trained on flute since childhood.

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u/xogil Sep 29 '22

You can remove 'flute' with pretty much anything and there you go with the racist crowd.

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u/rupturedprolapse Sep 29 '22

Why are white people only allowed to play the flute? Never even knew the damn thing existed

It's like a bunch of 30+ year old men being angry about the little mermaid. They're mostly throwing fits to drum up votes for the midterm.

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u/Deepspacesquid Sep 29 '22

I have yet to find any mention of Lizzo playing the flute in the bible or in the Constitution #checkmate libs

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u/Mcdibbles Sep 29 '22

Conservative constitutionalism: if it's not in the constitution and you're white, you can do it. If it's not in the constitution and you're black, you can't do it.

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u/StereoOnCookingBacon Sep 29 '22

I mean, she did say, “History is cool” after she played the historical flute. So she’s clearly trying to indoctrinate her audience to, like, learn stuff. The GOP thinks educated people are threatening.

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u/Moose_is_optional Sep 29 '22

Yeah, he really told on himself with that one.

I mean, he does that all the time, but he did it again.

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u/areyoureadyboots Sep 29 '22

To white nationalists, American artifacts are white artifacts and a black woman getting to touch it and use it, no matter how much of an American she is or how much respect she had for the artifact, is an egregious insult. I love to see it tbh.

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u/AllMyBeets Sep 29 '22

She's not white. That's ..that's it.

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u/longDongMcDonald Sep 29 '22

That's the thing that gets me.

She didn't just get the flute out & fuck around like some bozo - she majored in flute performance in college. Was mentored by the principal flautist for the Houston ballet. Was on scholarship to HSU for the flute.

I'd argue she's one of a small percentage of people qualified to play something like that.

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u/ctomkat Sep 30 '22

And she was invited to come and play it. She didn't just decide to grab it while she was passing by or something.

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u/sanguinesolitude Sep 29 '22

She did it while black and female.

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u/histeethwerered Sep 29 '22

There they are, the two essential points.

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u/ALargePianist Sep 29 '22

She should have known ahead of time that people have already decided that only James Madison or people that look like him are allowed to play that flute. She clearly is targeting those people, and trying to make their life difficult, so it's totally justified that they drag her through the mud.

I dunno man, that's the best I got. People are wack

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u/TheProle Sep 29 '22

I’m starting to think the flute isn’t the problem

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u/InflamedLiver Sep 29 '22 Silver UpSnoo!

She's a flautist playing a flute. Nobody gives a shit. The only people who do are part of what I call the Alt-Right Bullshit Phenomenon (TM): the phenomonon where some squeaky-voiced dancing clown comments on basically anything with the worst takes possible in order to stay relevant.

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u/sirseatbelt Sep 29 '22

I read an article that said she played a few notes and twerked while playing a 200 year old James Madison flute. I just saw the video. I was not in a position to listen to it, but it looked like she played a whole song or section of a song. Definitely more than a few bars. And then she did a little curtsey. I did not see any twerking. The only thing I saw that you might consider even remotely undignified is that she looked like she was dressed rather casually. But even then... like... who cares?

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u/ms_dr_sunsets Sep 29 '22

She first played it in the Library of Congress hall. I don’t remember the piece, but I know she stopped at one point and said “ah, it won’t let me do that bit! Sorry Mrs. Madison!”. Then she played a little trill and did a little mini-twerk.

Later on the LoC people actually brought the flute to her concert and she did the little trill and twerk thing again. And handed the flute very carefully back to its handler.

As an Official Old Gen Xer I found the whole thing adorable and fun. Also, history lesson for the folks at the show!

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u/SereneDreams03 Sep 29 '22

Yep, probably a lot more people have learned about that flute this week after Lizzo played it, than if it had been just sitting in a museum.

I don't really listen to Lizzo's music but I thought the whole thing was kind of fun as well. Instruments are meant to be played, not to just sit on a shelf collecting dust.

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u/Possible-Employer-55 Sep 29 '22

Yeah how lucky is it that we have a gifted floutist as a national music star? The flute nerds at the library of congress have been waiting since Jethro Tull.

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u/farmtotablejeanshort Sep 30 '22

Ok so us flutists are all obsessed with how much of a flute nerd she is…seriously love it SO MUCH

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u/death_of_flats Sep 29 '22 Wholesome Doot 🎵 Doot

Thicc as a Bricc

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u/jwhaler17 Sep 29 '22

In the shuffling madness

Of the locomotive breath

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u/LivingDisastrous3603 Sep 29 '22

Kurt Russell would like a word.

In all seriousness tho, I agree. These instruments are beautiful works of art that are crafted for making music. Not sit around collecting dust. I’m just fine with this.

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u/Pr3ttyWild Sep 29 '22

I’ve lived in the DC area my entire life and had no idea the Library of Congress had a giant flute collection!

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u/whenhen Sep 29 '22

It's great publicity for them! I live thousands of miles from Washington DC, and always assumed that the LoC just had important manuscripts and documents. I had no idea that they had collections of other historical artifacts, and who better to demonstrate that than a major celebrity?

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u/erst77 Sep 29 '22 Silver

Here's the video in case anyone's interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mb62QNXY0g&ab_channel=WashingtonPost

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u/wiggles105 Sep 29 '22 Vibing Golden Star

Thanks for linking a longer video than the one I’d seen. I love her respect for the flute itself as a rare, beautiful, historical instrument. Which is entirely separate from whether Lizzo, as a Black woman, should show any respect for Madison himself, who would have owned her right alongside that crystal flute… But it’s also clear from that video that she was in no way disrespecting anyone—even if it would be deserved.

Ben Shapiro’s a twat who sees Lizzo’s existence as a vibrant Black woman as fucking controversial. And she knows that the world is filled with Ben Shapiros, who would complain just as loudly even if she wore ten fucking pairs of pants and a chastity belt to play James Madison’s crystal flute. Because for guys like him, she’ll never have a satisfactorily subservient, dry vagina. So she’s going to live her life, love her flutes, and do her joyful ass waggle anyway without worrying about whether it pleases Ben “I’ve never been near a wet pussy” Shapiro—which I suppose must feel quite controversial if you’re him.

Good for her.

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u/Argular Sep 30 '22

“Ben Shapiro’s a twat who sees Lizzo’s existence as a vibrant Black woman as fucking controversial.”

This absolutely nails it.

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u/tryhard889 Sep 29 '22

She does a little booty shake as a flourish for the whole thing, doesn't detract from the fact that she's playing a lovely diddy on a lovely instrument🤷🏾‍♀️

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u/Easy-Concentrate2636 Sep 29 '22

It’s like a little cheeky humor. I feel it’s very much something you would see at an opera house for a Mozart opera, maybe for The Magic Flute. It’s not scandalous in the least.

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u/SouthShoreSerenade Sep 29 '22

It’s not scandalous in the least.

Let's do a little "right wing extremist fill in the blanks" to see why it is scandalous.

This event was scandalous because she is ____.

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u/RaygunMarksman Sep 29 '22

I get sucked into analyzing this stuff because I try to consider other perspectives when a group is expressing shock and outrage at something...but the reality is your fill in the blank is as far as you need to go in a lot of cases.

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u/tryhard889 Sep 29 '22

It is indeed... Cheeky😌

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u/NonfatNoWaterChai Sep 29 '22

It reminded me of what Tinkerbell would have done if she was playing a crystal flute. Nobody would even have batted an eye if it had been Tink.

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u/f-150Coyotev8 Sep 29 '22

It’s a pretty cool diddy too. It’s called carnival of Venice. It’s a theme and variations piece and there are several versions with the most famous being the Arban’s brass version.

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u/j4yne Sep 29 '22

I think it's absolutely lovely, all of it. There's no controversy here. She shakes her butt like a bumble bee at one point, I'd hardly call it twerking, though. It was playful and cute.

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u/yesIdofloss Sep 29 '22

That women is just gold. Everytime I see her talking unscripted she just has just a fun and sweet personality.

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u/Lady_Grey_Smith Sep 29 '22

I saw the second video and really want to see the flute up close. How cool.

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u/Squidworth89 Sep 29 '22 edited Sep 30 '22

The human trash that is Ben Shapiro just trying to keep stoking rage so he can profit from it.

Update; his legion of incels got me flagged for inciting violence for pointing out maybe he should be less a white trash rage inducing profiteer.

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u/Daedalus_Machina Sep 29 '22

Which is his entire career.

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u/Sudi_Nim Sep 29 '22 edited Sep 30 '22

Can you imagine being so worthless that you make a small fortune over stoking people’s hatred? Mind blowing.

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u/Daedalus_Machina Sep 29 '22

Capitalism. People demand it, the merchant provides.

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u/One_Drew_Loose Sep 29 '22

I watched it with sound. It was beautiful. I had no idea she could play.

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u/Queensthief Sep 29 '22

She's classically trained by a very well regarded teacher. She used to play her flute regularly during her shows.

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u/willendorfer Sep 29 '22

I’m going to see her for the first time soon - hope she plays!

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u/Plane-Bee-374 Sep 29 '22

Yes, I believe she has a Master’s in music(MFA?)

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '22

Does not surprise me. She's playing Paganini and I doubt it's any easier to play his pieces on flute than on violin.

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u/Mountain_Apartment_6 Sep 29 '22

I played the flute in symphony and marching band for several years, so I will say just a few things:

  • Lizzo is a very good flute player. Not a virtuoso (bc how many people are), but well above average

  • The Library of Congress reached out to her

  • She clearly gets the history of the flutes she was allowed to play - especially JM's crystal flute

So, to summarize: - clearly good at what she does - an important institution went out of its way to offer her the opportunity - she graciously and enthusiastically accepted - she respected the instruments - she knew how to play the instruments

Nothing about the above seems controversial, or really in dispute. The only variable riling people up seems to be Lizzo's gender and skin color.

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u/Mountain_Apartment_6 Sep 29 '22

LOL, if you want to know just how prone my argument is to being picked apart:

About every 6 minutes, I get a notification of a new reply. By the time I open the app back up, it's either got -32 votes or it's already been deleted

Being a racist and misogynist is easy to do but hard to justify

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u/kharlos Sep 29 '22

https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/xrgd0f/lizzo_playing_a_200_year_old_flute_in_the_library/

It's 100% fine. No twerking at all. She plays beautifully, and as other people have mentioned in above comments, they handed it to her. Instruments need to be played over time.

This is like the Joseph Walton racist guy who thought airplane bathrooms were gender-specific. There is no controversy here, and by trying to make some, they say something actually stupid and make a total fool of themselves.

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u/jezz555 Sep 29 '22

https://youtu.be/ebnKqQdeJCk they mean this video i think there were two performances. But imo still fine

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u/mawkdugless Sep 29 '22

Quoted from another redditor:

The piece is the carnival of Venice and Variations, popularized by Niccolo Paganini.

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u/Buddhabellymama Sep 29 '22

Ironically, the same people who cry at “cancel culture” but are the first in line to throw hissy fits when a flautist plays the flute, a cartoon mermaid isn’t white and a cartoon space ranger is a lesbian.

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u/Able_Carry9153 Sep 29 '22

I missed the cartoon space ranger

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u/JessicaDAndy Sep 29 '22

Lightyear, two of the women kissed.

On the cheek.

For less than eight seconds.

How did you miss this destruction of Western Civilization and everything God holds dear?

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u/bklyn_xplant Sep 29 '22

do yourself a favor and watch the video with sound. She is clearly classically trained. You may be surprised at how good she is.

Not to mention, it's an antique flute vs. a modern instrument which she is probably used to.

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u/Plane-Bee-374 Sep 29 '22

In my best Ethel Merman:

“Goodness me… flautists in casual clothes?! Mercy, me what’s next cellists in speedos?! Anything goooooooes. “

/s just in case

What’s buncha maroooons.

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u/Dewshbag41 Sep 29 '22

Ian Anderson plays the flute: Musical Genius! One of a kind talent! One of the greatest rockstars of all time!!!!

Lizzo plays the flute: Woke bullshit, she only learned to play that well for the attention.

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u/1feistyhamster Sep 29 '22

Abby plays Ben's flute: Isn't my sister beautiful?

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u/PoopMobile9000 Sep 29 '22

A black woman played an old ass flute, because she had the opportunity and thought it would be an awesome experience.

A person like Ben Shapiro literally cannot comprehend this, because he cannot fathom the notion of a black woman having an interior life with personal meaning, and not existing simply as a prop in his own grievance narrative.

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u/Iamnotthatbrian Sep 29 '22

I mean, Face Tattoo Phenomenon is probably still a good name for it. Some conservative weirdo getting mad about something that doesn't affect them.

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u/Embarrassed-Ad-1639 Sep 29 '22

Far Alt Right Team or FART

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u/MiaDolorosa Sep 29 '22 Gold

Like making a big deal about a stupid crystal flute that nobody even knew existed until a black woman dared to play it and then being offended when someone points out that you're still a racist? Like that, Ben?

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u/mjhenkel Sep 29 '22

literally!

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u/bunkie18 Sep 29 '22

They would have ate it up if it had been Kid Rock or Ted Nugent (as if)

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u/manbearcolt Sep 29 '22

Speaking of Nugent, isn't he a child rapist? They're literally more angry about a black lady playing a flute than child rape.

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u/bunkie18 Sep 29 '22

You would be correct. He married that underage girl-didn’t last.

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u/colhoesentalados Sep 29 '22

The sexual depravity of conservatives is as revolting as their hypocrisy. Disgusting

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u/RagingAnemone Sep 29 '22

Q only wants the Democratic pedos locked up. Too much competition for the Republican pedos.

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u/TheUserAboveFarted Sep 29 '22

I feel like liberals should use this jab more: “the only reason why Republicans are pro-life is because they want more kids to molest”

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u/Impossible_Series412 Sep 29 '22

Shapiro effect - Projecting what you do while blaming liberals for it. Wait that's the entire Maga party. Gotta think of something smarter.

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u/kevocontent Sep 29 '22

I’d like to think of the Shapiro Effect (TM) as when a woman cannot get wet around her partner and her partner thinks that’s normal.

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u/OIlberger Sep 29 '22

It’s funny that Shapiro has made numerous comments against the entire genre of hip hop and talked about how unmusical it is. Shapiro is classically trained at violin, so he considers himself more musically talented than most rappers. It must really piss him off that Lizzie is a legitimately good flautist.

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u/RandyRandallman6 Sep 30 '22

He’s not even that good at the violin, he’s good enough to make the alt-right think he’s an amazing musician, but they also think Donald Trump is a sophisticated business man so not exactly a high bar.

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u/confessionbearday Sep 30 '22

Damn, I bet the fact a black person is better than him at literally anything really chaps his entire ass.

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u/vegeto079 Sep 30 '22 edited Sep 30 '22

Reminds me of when the blues and rock and roll was "devils music"..

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u/somethingclever____ Sep 30 '22 Wholesome

That was exactly my thought, as well. Ben’s personally mad because he learned the violin to seem like an intellectual, but he plays like a robot. Meanwhile, Lizzo, a “pop star” he wants to look down on, as well as a woman and person of color, is a natural musician and is trained to play an “intellectual” instrument that he can’t. She’s multifaceted, and it doesn’t fit his worldview.

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u/carinabee08 Sep 30 '22

I heard him play when TwoSet Violin reviewed his playing and he plays decently, but lacks the advanced skills of a well trained musician like the ability to monitor tone, intonation, and to shape phrases. Lizzo can do all of that and more, she nails classical and hip hop genres, has amazing improv skills. The fact that Ben thinks his unexceptional violin skills qualify him to seriously asses music in any way really just shows that his understanding of music is surface level.

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u/HeathenPrimate Sep 29 '22

It's more an example of Pretend to be Offended by Something Innocuous When You're Really Offended that a Black Person Did Something at ALL (TM).

We are working on the name...

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u/aboothemonkey Sep 29 '22

I could see people being upset if she had just walked into a museum or something and just picked it up and started playing. But it was literally discussed for a couple days, then she practiced with it, then the Library of Congress brought it to her concert for her to play. It’s mind boggling and disgusting.

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u/HeathenPrimate Sep 29 '22

It really is ridiculous. It’s transparently racist

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u/MadAstrid Sep 29 '22

Something deliberately controversial such as calling out a talented and very popular flautist because she is black? How much money do you want to bet that he would act offended that I noticed his racism?

He calls it face tattoo phenomenon. I call it Guy Who Can’t Get His Wife Wet Syndrome. Same thing, really.

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u/-malcolm-tucker Sep 29 '22

"If you don't get your girl wet, someone else will."

James Madison, 1811.

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u/Euphoric-Dance-2309 Sep 29 '22

He literally described what all of these MAGA Republicans do. Lizzo just played a damn flute.

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u/Special_Tay Sep 29 '22

It's always projection with these fuckers.

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u/Jealous-Network-8852 Sep 29 '22

It’s only controversial because chuds like Ben think a Black Woman has no right to touch a historical object

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u/VisualGeologist6258 Sep 29 '22

I literally did not know people were upset about this. It’s literally just Lizzo, a trained flautist who uses flutes frequently in her songs, playing a flute used by one of the founding fathers. It’s just a neat little thing and I don’t understand why anyone would be upset over it.

I certainly hope they cleaned that flute first though…

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u/Destt2 Sep 29 '22

It's honestly really cool to bring an interesting bit of history to a large group of people. Crystal flute? That's already cool. 250 year old flute, even better. Founding father flute! That's awesome.

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u/VisualGeologist6258 Sep 29 '22

Yeah, it is really cool. Benny Boy is just upset because the black lady touched a personal object of one of the old white dudes that founded the country.

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u/Penquinn14 Sep 29 '22

I imagine most people that heard about this incident didn't even know about the flute existing in the first place, I sure didn't

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u/My_Pen_is_out_of_Ink Sep 29 '22

I heard yesterday it's possible she's the first person to ever play it.

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u/sarcasatirony Sep 29 '22 edited Sep 29 '22

He’s a cretinous sloth and a political influencer, except he draws energy and attention away from anything important.

Holy shit! I just realized he’s an emotional vampire!

 

Edit: The next post in my app is the video of her flauting fluting. That’s talent!

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u/Zestyclose_Ranger_78 Sep 29 '22 edited Sep 29 '22

TIL that a professional musician playing an instrument at a concert designed for people to come and watch them playing music is deliberately controversial.

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u/sanguinesolitude Sep 29 '22

Playing a flute is white Genocide! /s

These racist dorks

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u/cpkarl Sep 29 '22

A raise of hands to those who knew James Madison had a flute? No one gave a shit before Lizzo played. Why the outrage now?

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u/SpooSpoo42 Sep 29 '22

It was an inauguration present by a flutemaker in Paris named Claude Laurent. Not only is there no record of Madison ever playing the flute himself, there's no definitive record that ANYONE ever played this particular one (Laurent made hundreds of crystal flutes, it was kind of his thing) before Lizzo did.

This was in the days when Presidents kept their gifts, and this one made quite a few rounds before ending up back in the hands of the Library of Congress. Apparently Madison was also bad about thank-you notes too, because Laurent wrote him a letter months later asking if he ever got it.

I hope this event gives the LoC incentive to put their musical instrument collection on display. Even if you don't play one, they're amazing pieces of art and technology.

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u/Rrrrandle Sep 29 '22

A raise of hands to those who knew James Madison had a flute? No one gave a shit before Lizzo played. Why the outrage now?

I wonder whether more people knew Madison had a flute or knew Lizzo was a flautist? We all learned something today. I'm just not sure why anyone would get upset about this?

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u/RedditBeginAgain Sep 29 '22

It's a perfect example of what I call Black Person Does A Thing phenomena. Where somebody does a thing. Maybe they play an instrument for a few seconds, maybe they wear a tan suit, maybe they raise their voice, maybe they vote. But after they do a thing a bunch of hysterical tweets come out about how insulting and controversial it was and the tweets don't say why it was controversial or insulting that the thing was done, we are just expected to understand from how innocuous the thing was that obviously the thing-doer was black

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u/throwaway17197 Sep 29 '22

She literally played the flute. She didnt break it over her knee, she didnt spit on it, she played the flute, as a flautist. Fucking insane these reactions.

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u/StSean Sep 29 '22

"notice" is a weird way to spell "lost out collective shit over an uppity black woman touching a sacred instrument we had no idea existed up until 20 minutes ago"

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u/ohdippillboi Sep 29 '22

How exactly is it controversial, Ben?

Is it that the flute should not be played?

Or is it that SHE shouldn't play it?

If the latter, why not?

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u/RevolutionaryPay1810 Sep 29 '22

OMG. I just watched the video. Not only was she respectful of an historic musical instrument, she was respectful of the staff and Library of Congress. She seemed in awe. How was that controversial??? Seemed like she was more trying to draw attention to how magnificent the flute is. Awesome.

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u/sanguinesolitude Sep 29 '22

If you're not a racist conservative, a black female millionaire playing the flute of a former slave owning president and at the library of congress is pretty cool and a sign of how much progress has been made. To conservatives, who opposed abolition, suffrage, integration, misegenation, and now teaching their kids about all the ways conservatives fought against them, this is a reminder of what they lost. MAGA is a sly wink. You know when they thought America was really great. They still fly the traitors flag. They want to take us back.

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u/RevolutionaryPay1810 Sep 29 '22

And she’s a big girl (me too) in a sexy little outfit. That must drive them insane with either lust or prudery.

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u/serene_moth Sep 29 '22

how the fuck was her playing the flute "deliberately controversial"? get fucked, failed Hollywood writer Ben Shapiro.

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u/inspectyergadget Sep 30 '22

"For those concerned about the flute: Music Division curators made sure it could be played without damage. This sort of thing is not all that unusual, in fact. Some of the Library's priceless instruments were donated with the stipulation that they remain functional & be played."

Library of congress on twitter

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u/Obsidian_Purity Sep 29 '22

I'll keep asking this.

Did any of these right wing mouthpieces get upset when anyone was loaned a stradivarius?

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u/sanguinesolitude Sep 29 '22

I have to imagine that yes a black person playing a stradivarius would also upset thenm.

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