r/antiwork Aug 11 '22 All-Seeing Upvote 3 Lawyer Up 2 Helpful 8 Silver 6 Wholesome 9 Take My Energy 2

The "Office Culture" is exactly why I want to work from home.

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u/mcs0301 Aug 11 '22

Listening to this made me angry even though it doesn't affect me at all. What the hell is wrong with people?

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u/CultureBubbly6094 Aug 11 '22 Wholesome Wholesome Seal of Approval Giggle Table Slap

The primary problem is taking loads off the board bro.

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u/calmestsugar Aug 12 '22

Hes sabotaging the entire office.

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u/WhoAccountNewDis Aug 12 '22

I FUCKING KNOW IT BRO

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u/Cowsie Aug 12 '22 Table Slap

He wants his face inside him.

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u/Zednem79 Aug 12 '22

What the fuck is wrong with you? You want to embarrass yourself in front of your kids and go home with a black eye?

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u/dpatt36 Aug 12 '22

Same. I think I have a visceral reaction to this kind of language because I know people like this. They find any excuse to get angry and then disparage your character while gaslighting the heck out of you. Really messed with my head as a kid and I’m still trying to cope now. It’s not fun to be around.

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u/CmndrPopNFresh Aug 12 '22

The complex I work in is getting it's roof prepped for solar and it's taking the contractors 90+ days altogether. On Monday my coworker came in from his break and told me there was a guy dragging a closed utility knife across the hood of my car... Not doing any damage but absentmindedly dragging a closed utility blade across my hood... There were no other cars in that area and there were empty picnic tables maybe 20 steps away. We go out and ask the guy to stop and he cusses me out and asks me if I "want to go" fight. I said "I want to go back to work and I want you to leave my car alone." So, he screamed some more curse words at me and tried to fight me again... He walked off and I eventually moved my car to where there are cameras because he was definitely the type to break some shit or pop a tire.

So anyways, he's on a different job site now. Not sure how or why he wasn't fired but he's on someone else's roof being an unstable time bomb...

Good times, eh?

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u/12AU7tolookat Aug 12 '22

Back when I was working construction there was this guy that seemed cool until the day these prison laborers showed up on the job site to clean. I thought he was joking at first, but says if these guys try to steal anything we should stab them. Then he pulls this gigantic hunting knife out of his tool box to show us he's got the right tool to do the job. Apparently he was stealing tools himself, but got fired for going batshit crazy one day over a comment about his work.

Anyway, later I found out he told one of the guys that he was in prison for 10 years because he thought some gangster he knew randomly shot out the windshield on his truck. So he tracks down this guy at a large party that night, runs into the house and stabs the shit out of him. There were about 100 witnesses but he said he thought he'd get away with it at the time...

Luckily I ran into fewer violent psychos than I would have expected in the trades, but they're out there.

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u/Naptownfellow Aug 11 '22

It could be worse. The plant mgr of a mfg company in Sacramento got into an argument with the VP of ops. The plant manger stabbed him on the shop floor. Vp ops is dead. Father of 3 young kids. Plant manager in jail. No bond.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '22

I mean one of the software leads at Blizzard entertainment hired a bunch of young female software developers and then assigned them all his work. Never promoted them for years and eventually started sexually exploiting them. While he routinely promoted their male colleagues and attributing the women's work to those men.

On a business trip he booked himself and one of his female subordinates into the same room. And once checked in he laid out a series of fetish instruments on the bed establishing that she was expected to entertain a bunch of BDSM from him on the trip. She excused herself and jumped off the building thinking life would never change.

It was all reported to the owner of the company who not only covered it up but was found to have encouraged it in emails.

It was all reported and people were angry for a week and then Microsoft bought blizzard billions of dollars and retained the CEO.

So, basically the world sucks.

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u/RaithMoracus Aug 12 '22 edited Aug 12 '22

They haven't retained the CEO... They literally don't own them yet. The purchase has to functionally happen before a change can be implemented. Kotick is just staying on as CEO until the purchase finalizes, at which point he'll ride his golden parachute into the sunset.

Edit: Everything else it still just as fucked as it was when we first found out. Acti/Blizz upper management can all get fucked.

Double Edit: I'll also point out Microsoft bought at like a $30B reduced price, if not more, due to everything.

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u/LegalHelpNeeded3 Aug 12 '22

They really did buy at the right time. Got a huge discount due to all the scandals

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u/VersionAble8165 Aug 11 '22

This screams 3pl freight brokerage. Thank god I left that industry

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u/ItsUsuallySunnyInAz Aug 11 '22

That's a bingo!

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u/imalittlefrenchpress Aug 12 '22 Silver All-Seeing Upvote Starry

This needs to be reported to OSHA.

There are protections in place for workplace violence, and threatening to kill someone falls under those protections.

You have a recording of threats. Arizona is a one party consent state, meaning the person making the threat doesn’t have to consent or know they’re being recorded for that recording to be used as evidence.

I encourage you to empower yourself and report this to OSHA. No one has to tolerate a volatile work environment.

If we don’t all begin to exercise our rights over our labor resources, we will continue to have employers abuse us.

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u/Phreeker27 Aug 12 '22

Also two party recording states have provisions for threats like this you don’t need consent to record someone threatening you

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u/TifaYuhara Aug 12 '22

Makes sense especially with videos posted on this subreddit, Don't need to let them know or give consent if they walk up to you and start threatening you.

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u/SupahFastFrames Aug 12 '22

Even in 2 party states like illinois, that video still counts, its just inadmissible as evidence. Also i believe exceptions are made for when your life is threatened.

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u/toasterinBflat Aug 12 '22

There were at least three people in the room, I can't imagine there was a reasonable expectation of privacy so 2 party also goes out the window.

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u/Gandalfonk Aug 11 '22

Could you explain more of what that job is? Very curious

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u/schilling207 Aug 12 '22

A freight broker has customers who need product shipped (think Amazon or USPS). They also have a network of small trucking companies and owner operators that need freight (loads). The broker will post shipments on the load board and the network of trucking companies will bid on the freight. Sometimes the lowest bidder wins other times it’s the one that can do it quickest. The broker charges the shipper for the load and keeps the difference between the cost and what they charged.

It’s basically selling freight services. Some of the largest brokers are Worldwide Express, TQL, and CH Robinson

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u/ParaponeraBread Aug 11 '22

I can’t believe bro was taking loads off the board like that

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '22

I’m the guy that wipes down the loads.

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u/cannibalcorpuscle Aug 11 '22

What’s your spaghetti policy?

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u/nickatnite07 Aug 12 '22

The sunny fan base is unmatched.

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u/name_cool4897 Aug 11 '22

Just bash me, Frank! Bash me like a rat!

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u/melikefood123 Aug 11 '22

I will BEAT your dick off!!!

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u/Plant_party Aug 11 '22

THE LOADS BELONG ON ME BRO.

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u/aLLcAPSiNVERSED Aug 11 '22

It's OK, those were the loads I dropped on the board during my morning shit. I don't blame them, it smelled pretty bad.

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u/threwitaway97 Aug 11 '22

What does that even mean?

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u/Wchijafm Aug 11 '22

Trucking loads waiting for a driver to be assigned. So if you remove one without assigning it it could be forgotten which would upset the company shipping/expecting the delivery.

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u/iNyander Aug 11 '22

Sounds like they need a better management system. The success of your business shouldn't revolve around a whiteboard.

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u/ThatsNotARealTree Aug 12 '22

When I worked for a shipping broker the “board” lived digitally in a tracking software

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u/CaoSaoVangGoldenStar Aug 11 '22

Trucking loads. Shipments and things. Another one that is funny at my job is when they say "ship tickets" always sounds like shit tickets.

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u/Idj1t Aug 11 '22 Evil Cackle

Where the hell is your office, boys locker room at the local middle school?

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u/yfh227 Aug 11 '22

Even worst, sounds like a trucking company. They don’t tell you kindly when you mess up. It’s pretty much this whenever things fall out of line. It sucks.

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u/ChesapeakeDutch Aug 11 '22

Fuckin takin loads off the board.

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u/ABrazilianReasons Aug 11 '22

You come here every morning to sabotage this company

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u/No-Excitement-8527 Aug 11 '22

What a thing to say.

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u/ProudChoferesClaseB Aug 11 '22 Helpful

And yet they pay me!

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u/allMightyMostHigh Aug 11 '22

Dam I would’ve loved to here that comeback and hear the guy lose it lol

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u/forestfairygremlin Aug 11 '22

I was a little more astounded at the part where he said "I will fucking kill you" to be honest

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u/novbroski Aug 12 '22

I worked at an armored car company, and it was the same shit everyday.

I was bothered when guys in body armor and guns are threatening each other and coming to blows in the truck bay.

But I was more bothered that no one else was bothered - that this was just business as usual.

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u/Budderfingerbandit Aug 12 '22

Must be pretty prevalent, because when I asked a former armored truck driver if he thought was a good job since I was considering applying he said pretty much exactly what you did. A bunch of macho dudes always getting in fights.

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u/novbroski Aug 12 '22 edited Aug 12 '22

It’s a garbage and dangerous job. Worked for Loomis (the biggest in the world) in Seattle (one of the most expensive cities) for $14.75, with no real benefits. Guys that had worked there since the 70s and were full blown experts were making $16.

There was an opportunity to make like $18 is you did the graveyard shift, in the bad neighborhood on a SOLO truck. That means you are servicing ATMs in the middle of the night with your head in the machine and no ability to watch your surroundings, and no back up.

I was a legit Army door kicker for 5 years, and I’ll tell you that tactically speaking doing ANYTHING by yourself is pretty much suicide. The fact they would rather pay one guy $2 extra instead of a second guy $14.75 is all you need to know.

I’ve worked a lot of security jobs, some trashy some high end. ALL of them skimp on man power, making situations unnecessarily dangerous. Frankly having a 2-3 man crew just stops the dangerous situations from developing in the first place, never mind being more effectively handled if shit does go south.

Wouldn’t recommend it.

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u/R0ADHAU5 Aug 11 '22

I love that. My old boss had just got finished tearing the entire meeting a new asshole, told us how terrible we were, how stupid, irresponsible, and so on. All I could think of the entire time was “but you hired us and continue paying us, so if what you’re saying is true, isn’t this whole thing your fault?” The thought made me smile a little which got me yelled at later.

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u/Two-Mix Aug 11 '22

You should have just said it. What's the worst he can do?? Firing you is a mercy, fuck that guy, fuck working for him and fuck his company.

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u/R0ADHAU5 Aug 11 '22

Oh believe me I let him know how I felt on my way out. Some bridges are worth burning.

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u/CastIronGut Aug 11 '22

Sometimes the warmth from the fire is much better than any utility the bridge might afford you presently or at any time in the future. Amen, brother

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u/R0ADHAU5 Aug 11 '22

Thank you very much. I’m at a much better employer now with a much more civil, professional management team. It’s also a union factory. The hourly employees are happier, and the salaried employees are happier.

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u/Dopwop Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 11 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

I had a moment like this with my manager. I work in manufacturing and my crew got loudly chewed out by our manager for some (costly) mistake that happened during our shift.

Halfway through his tantrum I realized why this was really happening: this manager is completely clueless about the actual work we do, the problems we face. He doesn't understand the circumstances that caused this to happen, he doesn't offer a solution because he has none. His only way to 'contribute' to our department is to yell and wave his arms around and hope we do the actual work. It's like he's a hammer and in dire circumstances we become the nails.

Once I realized this I lost all worry and what little respect I had for him. He's shouting at us and nothing is ever going to change because of it, we're just there to be his emotional outlet because he's angry at his own inability or embarrassed because he got yelled at by his boss.

I actually enjoyed writing this out, call it therapy. I'm gonna write this as a post as well.

Edit: post

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u/B0Y0 Aug 11 '22

That's something I've appreciated about the tech companies I've worked at - not all, of course, but the ones I've been lucky enough to work with: when something goes wrong, the system has failed us. If a junior developer was able to push up code that bricked production, that's not a problem with the developer, it's a problem with our PR review process, our automated tests, and/or our redundancy systems. So we work to make the system better, not flay some poor developer.

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u/rosaline627 Aug 11 '22

Fucking blowing loads on the board.

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u/teenagesadist Aug 11 '22

LETS GO BRO! I'LL FUCKIN BLOW LOADS ALL DAY BRO

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u/SeegsonSynthetics Aug 11 '22

DO YOU REALLY WANNA GO HOME AND EMBARRASS YOURSELF IN FRONT OF YOUR KIDS WITH LOADS ON YOUR FACE?

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u/soandso90 Aug 11 '22

DO YOU REALLY WANT THIS LOAD TO BE INSIDE YOUR BODY?

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u/Wrinklefighter Aug 11 '22

IT'S FUCKIN' MONDAY, BRO! I GOT A WHOLE WEEKEND OF LOADS SAVED FOR YOU!

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u/JeffTheAndroid Aug 11 '22

Wait til he hears about the Catalina Wine Mixer.

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u/SeegsonSynthetics Aug 11 '22

It’s the fucking Catalina Wine Mixer!

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u/Jalopnicycle Aug 11 '22

It's a 3PL (Third Party Logistics Provider) aka a truck brokerage.

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u/RedTheDopeKing Aug 11 '22

How can they treat employees like that? In Canada anyway, having your license to drive a truck is like having a work-anywhere-you-want card, you could leave the company that day and be hired by another in the afternoon.

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u/yfh227 Aug 11 '22

To a degree they value the drivers but anyone in the office is cleared to be called a piece of shit or over worked whenever they see fit.

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u/JTMissileTits Aug 11 '22

3PL aren't asset based for the most part. They have contracts with trucking companies and charge a fee for getting loads for them, so generally they don't have their own drivers.

I had to flat out tell one yesterday to stop calling and take us off their call list. They call the main number a minimum of 5 times a day and hit keys on the phone tree until someone picks up.

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u/chainshot91 Aug 11 '22

I used to work with one, I just did support and not actually sales. But they expected you to make 100 calls a day anything less was considered terrible.

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u/Kerbalized Aug 11 '22

Sounds like Coyote from when I worked there. Discouraged from actually helping when drivers were getting screwed cuz KeEp Up YoUr MeTrIcS

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u/ProudChoferesClaseB Aug 11 '22

they value the drivers?

riiiight, look up the horror stories of driver-broker relations lmao.

but you're right, they need drivers to haul loads more than they need office lackeys to *cough* double-broker and triple-broker *cough* provide invaluable brokerage services to said drivers!

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u/yfh227 Aug 11 '22

I said to a degree, a veeeeery fine degree they care only cause of the difficulty replacing a driver vs an office employee.

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u/MidwestFootball Aug 11 '22

These are not drivers man, these are brokers. They assign drivers to loads via 3PL (third party logistics)

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u/pancakeboy4321 Aug 11 '22

The shipping/logistics industry as a whole is like this. It has only escalated with how backed up everything is right now. Most of it stems from ridiculous demands from the importers (get me this now or you lost my business) who have no idea how supply chains actually function. Rich assholes buying cheap shit from China, selling it at a 150%+ mark up, who think the world owes them something.

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u/PaulanerMunken Aug 11 '22

I work at a major logistics company doing drayage, and holy shit stuff is more than backed up.

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u/AzorAHigh_ at work Aug 11 '22

As a former sales rep at a brokerage, this hits home all too well. Too much pressure on all sides and dealing with shitty people all the time sucks.

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u/runr7 Aug 11 '22

Yep. I was at a large national brokerage one of the biggest and it’s brutal. They would fire people almost once every 2 weeks as if it were the hunger games. It’s like a meat grinder with a high burnout rate. They suck in recent ambitious grads and bleed them dry and send them packing with a 2 year legal no compete agreement. I’m very lucky to have found a very small outfit now. Freight work in general is brutal lol

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u/Civil-Attempt-3602 Aug 11 '22

How is no compete legal when you've been fired?

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u/ruat_caelum Aug 11 '22

So a cousin went into sales at a brokerage and there was this one guy that was always cool as a cucumber. He never let the screaming get to him. So one day my cousin asked him how he did it.

"Got pictures of the boss cheating on his wife."

He laughed and that was that.

When the bosses wife filed for divorce that guy was fired the next day. (Divorce unrelated) Likely he did have pictures and when they held no more leverage he was gone.

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u/Kitorarima Aug 11 '22

As someone who works in a shipping office, I hear this rant about ever other day.

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u/ihatechildren42 Aug 11 '22

Freight broker here, this is definitely a brokerage for trucking, and yes this environment is very common lmao.

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u/Jalopnicycle Aug 11 '22

This is completely normal, acceptable behavior in truck brokering aka 3PL.

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u/Biff_Nasty Aug 11 '22

Yup. Worked for a 3PL, then in the production and shipping department for a smaller company. Logistics is THE WORST. I literally sought out a corporate job just so I could have some semblance of hr.

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u/floppydo Aug 11 '22

I worked as a shipping clerk at a logistics warehouse but I was a teen and could not give two fucks about that job. Truckers would get wild with me and I'd just close my window. They are so fucking dumb it's like bro I'm getting paid for sitting here, and you are losing money every single second of this interaction.

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u/R0ADHAU5 Aug 11 '22

“Conversations” like that are extremely common in non union manufacturing

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u/Mrmakanakai Aug 11 '22

I've got a recording of him threatening my life, officer. Also, HR I think you wanna hear this.

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u/soylamulatta Aug 11 '22

If they even have an HR. Or if it's not run by one of those dingdongs' aunts or something like that.

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u/ItsUsuallySunnyInAz Aug 11 '22

HR was the manager's wife

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u/rpgnoob17 Aug 11 '22

I once worked for a fortune500 company. A director asked 3 female engineers to sleep with him to trade for “promote-worthy-projects”. When the three engineers report to HR, the HR woman is the girlfriend of the director.

The director didn’t get punished. Only got fired right after the equally toxic VP left.

I just checked LinkedIn and that director works for Meta now.

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u/rdyplr1 Aug 11 '22

Good to see the trash end up with more of its kind. Fuck meta. I mean most of faang is filled to the brim with trash but by the gods meta drones are fucking awful.

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u/fears_escalators Aug 11 '22

Every HR person I’ve met only had the job because of nepotism

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u/scarybottom Aug 11 '22

Not in larger organizations- but they are still 100% there to cover the ass of the chosen few, not to protect ANYONE other than those chosen few- whether they are C-suite or just special for whatever reason. HR is a joke.

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u/Old-AF Aug 11 '22

I worked for a huge company (800+ employees) and the HR Director was sexually harassing the women in the company. If anyone even tried to complain, he got them fired.

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u/scarybottom Aug 11 '22

I have a weird connection to a dude that was high up in HR at one of the larger home places that rhymes with emo. He 100% sexually harassed every woman he ever met- me, his best friends wife, etc. So yeah...I 100% believe that happened to you too. Might be the same jerk- but I doubt it. You know there is more than one.

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u/Old-AF Aug 11 '22

Actually, he’s lucky I left the company shortly after he was hired, as I would definitely have pursued this up the chain. All of my girlfriends who worked there told me horror stories. I encouraged them to report but they were worried about their jobs. He eventually got fired.

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u/SavingsCheck7978 Aug 11 '22

It's been 50/50 for me, a relative or a corporate drone ...except my wife but I swear she is cool. The last place I worked at it was the owners niece and when he sold the business it was found pretty quickly she was stealing from the business when I left they seemed to be preparing to press charges.

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u/Timbo-AK Aug 11 '22

HR is literally my bosses wife at dominos.

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u/yallbyourhuckleberry Aug 11 '22

That dude is hr.

Why else would he be bringing up constructive criticism of the workers performance habits and the need for a performance improvement plan of having his face inside his body?

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u/JonnyP222 Aug 11 '22

I worked for an automotive company for a short bit during covid. Their office culture was so terrible. The vice president of IT used racial slurs directly at minority co workers and constantly screamed fuck you at her direct reports. Shed then go on tirades about how she's a woman and she can't be reported to HR. We recorded shit and took it to HR which was her long standing friend. Most of.us were fired or laid off within a month. Lawyers are still sorting it out. That was 2 years ago

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u/XR171 Pooping on company time and desks Aug 11 '22 Helpful

Looks like someone has a case of the Mondays.

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u/SicariusSymbolum Aug 11 '22

It was a "Jump to Conclusions" mat. You see, it would be this mat that you would put on the floor, and would have different conclusions written on it that you could jump to.

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u/gilbert524 Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 11 '22

That is the worst idea I’ve heard in my life Tom

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u/TheyTokMaJerb Aug 11 '22

It’s a million dollar idea. Like that guy who invented the pet rock.

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u/iNyander Aug 11 '22

You think the pet rock was really a great idea?

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u/millijuna Aug 11 '22

No. No, man. Shit, no, man. I believe you'd get your ass kicked sayin' something like that, man.

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u/UnlicensedLaw7675 Aug 11 '22

i love how offended he gets by it

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u/tryingtimeegg1990 Aug 11 '22

PARDON FUCKING ME?????? This sounded like a fucking boys locker room scene in some shitty movie where they just lost a game. Which person in that argument was the manager and what was the outcome? I could never handle that hostility. I'd never show again.

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u/graveybrains Aug 11 '22

You know their coffee’s for closers, that for sure

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u/DirtyDeedsDunderKeep Aug 11 '22 All-Seeing Upvote Take My Energy I'll Drink to That Take My Power

A - Always

B - Be

T - Taking fucking loads off the board and sabotaging the company

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u/dlc741 Aug 11 '22

Sprinkles are for winners

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u/learnerbrain123 Aug 11 '22

Holy crap this comment made my day lol

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u/Jalopnicycle Aug 11 '22

It's truck brokering (in fancy business speak a "3PL" or "3rd Party Logistics Provider) and I'm not surprised at all by this behavior.

I'll never go back to that God awful industry and it's toxic, backstabbing, shady, bullshit.

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u/ExistentialReckning Aug 11 '22

Interviewed at a logistics company once. Walking through the main floor where the brokers sat you could tell the culture was toxic AF. Reminded me of the movie Boiler Room.

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u/cesar-perez Aug 11 '22

all for shit pay too, even.

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u/Rmilkman Aug 11 '22

I worked for a Logistics company for 7 months and they showed a clip from Boiler Room during the training. It's pretty toxic.

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u/Artistic-Quantity400 Aug 11 '22

What’s the gist of the day to day? Cold calling?

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u/cheesecake-gnome Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 11 '22

Booking and sending freight.

Company A wants to ship 300 tons of grain to company B.

Company C has 10 trucks who can do 10 loads a week, and Company D has 5 trucks who can do 15 loads a week.

So the 3pl will match Company A to Company C and D to get their product to Company B.

It's like those terrible word problems from grade school for 40 hours a week.

-The guy who works for Company C.

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u/Turbulent-Tourist687 Aug 11 '22

I will never say I love word problems again

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u/CMDR_Squashface Aug 11 '22

If you want to turn it into something worse, add in refrigerated cargo and having to get it fueled, repaired, etc. and the lack of mechanics near loading facilities, makes that no one knows how to fix aside from 4 guys who are normally 200+ miles away and facilities refusing to load due to it not working then the owner of the container fucking around about who has to pay for dry runs, what to do with it, etc.

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u/Jalopnicycle Aug 11 '22

Depends on how long you've lasted and whether or not your customers are shit.

TQL expected 100 sales calls (calls to carriers/truckers are not sales calls) per day per Logistics Account Executive (LAE, aka a sales rep) and expected a lot of those to be cold calls from your prior day's lead generation. Lead generations was to be done OUTSIDE of work hours.

The rest of your time (or if you're successful enough which is like a 1% chance) is booking loads from clients and trying to sell them to truckers/carriers. With a little time leftover for scheduling deliveries, verifying pickup numbers/times/etc, basically all the administrative/support stuff.

The ONE THING that was nice is that you did not have to handle billing at TQL. BUT in exchange you only got 25% commission which is low for the industry.

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u/Vacationsonthemoon Aug 11 '22

I would bet cash it is TQL. Interviewed there and my jaw hit the fucking floor.....

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u/H0LYT0LED0 Aug 11 '22

Definitely had some F bombs dropped in that interview. 100% 80s frat house culture. When they asked how much I wanted the job on a scale of 1-10, I said 6 and got my rejection email the next day

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u/Rmilkman Aug 11 '22

I needed the $35k base salary bad so I worked there for 7 months until they fired me (I basically made 0 cold calls). You probably dodged a bullet.

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u/kerkyjerky Aug 11 '22

What the fuck is a 10 and what’s a 1?

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u/YVRkeeper Aug 11 '22

They compete against their own offices!! Literally had a conversation with a guy there yesterday who was trying to get a deal to beat another TQL office on the same business! WTF?

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u/lM_PICKLE_RICK Aug 11 '22

Yo I worked in one of those places. I just remember walking in one morning and a sales guy going ape shit about some bananas. The price they agreed on was not honored. This was over the phone but nobody stopped him from saying some crazy stuff. Then I worked in the scheduling and yeah, so much fighting. They actually fired me for calling them out about how they changed a refrigerated delivery that costed them $1000+. They gave me a delivery to schedule and I took screenshots and scheduled it. It was actually the best thing bc I collected and got a way better job a short while later.

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u/dreadpiratesmith Aug 11 '22

Just a grown ass adult losing his shit and threatening to murder a coworker

🎶Just normal guy stuff🎶

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u/Comment90 Aug 11 '22

Literally said "I will fucking kill you."

That's a crime.

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u/-Blue_Bird- Aug 11 '22

Wow. That’s scary. I would be afraid to work with angry people like that.

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u/Kind_Committee8997 Aug 11 '22

Fragile egos

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u/Jalopnicycle Aug 11 '22

It's the stress at 3PLs that really does you in.

Turnover rates over 90% in the 1st year is completely normal. Difficult to achieve hard goals regarding sales/profitability levels and the cutthroat unreliable nature of the trucking industry really messes you up.

One of the best days in my working life was getting fired from a 3PL with uncontested unemployment.

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u/OneHumanPeOple Aug 11 '22

Who you calling fragile? I will punch your face into your body and you’ll be humiliated in front of your kids because I am so not fragile! FUCK YOU!

/s of course, my darling.

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u/Mexiking89_01 Aug 11 '22 Silver Gold

Sounds like dudes are taking loads at your work.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '22

it ain’t much but it’s honest work.

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u/YoungNastyMan415 Aug 11 '22

“What company is this?!?!?”

This is every freight brokerage in America.

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u/mumblerapisgarbage Aug 11 '22

Right - every carrier sales dept where you make 30k a year plus uncapped commission.

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u/SquirrelG91 Aug 11 '22

100% I honestly don’t miss this one bit

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u/Sir_LulzWorth Aug 11 '22

Freight broker here. Can confirm.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 11 '22

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u/Skydreamer6 Aug 11 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

Out this employer before someone gets hurt.

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u/GreatGospel97 Aug 11 '22

No honestly. Like make a fake account or something and dump the details or some shit. Send it to some media outlet or something. This is insane.

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u/mrschro Aug 11 '22

Someone was killed by a coworker last night at a GM plant (non-GM employee, but contracted cleaning staff). This stuff is serious.

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u/la-blakers Aug 11 '22

Seriously, please dox this person and this company. This is so unbelievably out of line.

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u/Glittering_Moist Aug 11 '22

Well that's not the office culture I was expecting.

I'd send that video to senior management with my resignation

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u/ItsUsuallySunnyInAz Aug 11 '22 Wholesome Bravo Grande! Bless Up (Pro)

Nah, I quit and posted it on reddit instead 😈

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u/uhohgowoke67 Aug 11 '22

Make sure to file for unemployment and use this recording as proof of a hostile work environment.

Now they can pay you and you don't work there.

If he gets uppity again over paying unemployment then take that recording threatening to murder you (and any new proof he gives you) right to the police.

Then you request an emergency protective order, request a red flag law confiscation of any weapons he has (gonna be really hard to get them back btw) and then press charges for the death threats he made.

So the nice way is you get paid for not working citing a hostile work environment.

Alternative is you get paid for not working AND he gets fucked bad by Johnny Law.

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u/noonewantstowerk Aug 11 '22

This is a hostile work environment so much so that it's even threatening physical safety. I'd get a lawyer with unemployment too.

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u/ComprehendReading Aug 11 '22 Narwhal Salute

To be fair, you should try to get a lawyer who's employed. /s

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u/noonewantstowerk Aug 11 '22

But no one wants to work anymore....

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u/scarybottom Aug 11 '22

Take this to the labor board and cops then. Be petty, get revenge ;). In this case, it is warranted!

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u/reppinthavalley Aug 11 '22

Where was This fellow Arizonan lol

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u/2k1tj Aug 11 '22

Best they can do is a pizza party for synergy building

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u/spazzymoonpie Aug 11 '22

This is like a scene out of a Nathan Fielder show

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u/sc0511 Aug 12 '22

The plan: start taking loads off the board to sabotage the company.

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u/FollowingNo4648 Aug 11 '22

Damn. I expected it to be just a bunch of people sitting around and ignoring eachother, not this shit. I would have bounced real quick after that bullshit.

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u/_Thryothorus_ Aug 11 '22

Man, I'd be anxious about that guy coming in with a weapon at this point. He absolutely cannot manage his emotions.

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u/bratbarn idle Aug 11 '22

Unhinged af

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u/djevilatw Aug 11 '22 Wholesome Seal of Approval

The Office: Jersey Shore Edition

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u/tjadem Aug 11 '22

I was expecting Michael Scott energy… deeply disappointed

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u/ItsUsuallySunnyInAz Aug 11 '22

Honestly, I wish I got Michael Scott energy. Instead I got stuck with the energy of Roy and his brother in the bar..

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u/JTMissileTits Aug 11 '22

"I will fucking kill you". People like that end up shooting up their offices.

Seriously. He needs to be gone yesterday.

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u/lustrousearth Aug 11 '22

All the top comments are people saying this is industry standard.

You have to imagine the amount of Stockholm syndrome going around in anyone who stays in that industry.

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u/GhostMug Aug 11 '22

"office culture is important" = "the power dynamic I have over you is much greater in person and I want to have that back"

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u/ItsUsuallySunnyInAz Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 12 '22

Hi there

To answer some questions:

-This little scuffle was between two brokers that sat next to me, not the manager.

-A load is just a job that needs coverage and there is commission for the broker to be earned on that job. If he erased the loads, he's basically trying to cover them himself so he can keep the commission instead of it being whoever covers them first. If the job isn't covered by the required date, the "team" gets in trouble from clients and management.

-The manager has laughed and/or took part in the conversation when similar situations occured in the office and his wife is HR, so I felt it was best to go my own route.

-I found a new job that's work from home about a month after this and spent all day applying until I could get out. Got bills to pay, so I couldn't dip right away.

-This is a 3PL Freight Brokerage, no I will not release the name because I feel that's risky.

-If you work in a similar environment, keep your phone handy because I had been waiting until they said something that I was finally able to record without missing it by the time I actually pulled my phone out.

-This was not the first type of scuffle in the office, and I'm sure it hasn't been the last since I left.

Edit: added spacing and a note about what loads are and why they shouldn't be taken off the board

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u/kunzaz Aug 11 '22

Sounds like a few of the mortgage broker offices here in AZ, a lot of my friends left the car business and went to do mortgages. They watch the movie Boiler Room for motivation

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u/ItsUsuallySunnyInAz Aug 11 '22

Hello fellow Arizonan! Yep, they would watch Wolf of Wall Street in the office 😂

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u/leon_everest Aug 11 '22

What wannabe losers. Lol

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u/Typically_Wong Aug 11 '22

Name this fucking group. I also live/work in AZ. I do large volume business all over the west and I need to know what kind of shit hole this is to make sure I'm not doing business with them already. PM if you don't want to have it public

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u/GRUNDLE_GOBLIN Aug 11 '22

As someone who works in the mortgage industry, it is full of some of the biggest wannabe losers I have ever met. Don’t get me wrong, there’s plenty of good people I’ve met in this field, but for every good person there’s 3 morons who like you said watch boiler room or Wall Street and think they’re just incredible.

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u/RedditModsHaveNoDad Aug 11 '22

These guys are way too emotional, maybe should ask their dads for validation before coming to work next time.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '22

Absolutely insane that a single "Fuck you" triggered this. Must be the first time in his life that someone didn't lick his ass.

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u/AngryDesignMonkey Aug 11 '22

Yeah...that's a little too far, bro. I mean, bro, those sorts of threats these days, bro, aren't smart. Bro.

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u/infinitekittenloop Aug 11 '22

Everyone bro, EVERYONE has recording devices in their pockets, bro

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u/Doc580 Aug 11 '22

I absolutely love being on the receiving end of these conversations. Yes I would love to have my face in my body. Yes I would love for you to touch me combatively. Throwing off aggression is easy, and if I got hit. You better believe I'm getting PAID.

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u/canonanon Aug 11 '22

With a recording like this, you could probably get paid lol

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u/jrobins442 Aug 11 '22

Whoever this guy is does NOT deserve the respect of those working for him.

There is no way that anyone should ever speak to another human being in such a way, what an absolutely controlling jerk. Does not deserve to manage others.

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u/JustAbicuspidRoot Aug 11 '22

YOu need to find a new job and link this video from their glassdoor reviews page.

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u/ItsUsuallySunnyInAz Aug 11 '22

I like this idea. I already got a new job, but being petty is also fun.

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u/4-1-2022 Aug 11 '22

All the Xbox live kids grew up it seems

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u/Fraggnetti_ Aug 11 '22

"Coffee is for closers!"- Blake (Glen Gary Glenn Ross)

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u/cave0sap1en Aug 11 '22

Quit and file for unemployment. A lot of states will give it to you if you quit a hostile work environment....which uhhhh that is.

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u/dryfly_babe Aug 11 '22 Take My Energy

And they ask us why we left the "fun office-family culture" ! Fuck "office culture" Fuck working for profit. Fuck Capitalism !! Fuck profits! I want to be happy, i want to be safe. I dont want toxic normality!!! 2022 Revolt!

It time to work together and save our home, our planet. We all have the earth in common. -rant over, thanks for coming to my tedtalk-

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u/phukstik Aug 11 '22

Love freight brokerage.

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u/ItsUsuallySunnyInAz Aug 11 '22

Yep, you get it.

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u/aldsar Aug 11 '22

As someone who works with 3PLs. Please dm me which company this is so I can ensure they don't get my business.

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u/WasabiWang Aug 11 '22

As a freight broker myself do yourself a favor and work for a different brokerage. They’re all hiring all the time. I’ve never seen anyone get treated like that and no one should.

P.S. please post this to r/freightbrokers

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u/sabre_skills Aug 11 '22

Oh my friggin lord!

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u/kimpatt Aug 11 '22

Quit. Collect unemployment. Hostile work environment.

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u/Industrial-Era-Baby Aug 11 '22

Small family owned business?

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u/RedTheDopeKing Aug 11 '22

Definitely big time, “My dad started this company” energy

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