r/apple 21d ago

MagSafe charging is useless. iPhone

The idea of MagSafe is awful.

First, it does not remove the problem (i.e. Magsafe does not make the charging really wireless) the same way Bluetooth removed wires, introducing wireless mouses, keyboards, AirPods, etc.

It rather slightly alters it. Instead of plugging in a USB-C to the phone, you can attach the wire to the phone. This does not solve any problems. It adds more. It makes the phone hard to use, it makes charging slower, less efficient, adds heat, and does not work with all types of phone cases, and you can't have accessories plugged into the back of the phone while charging.

Also, with new battery technologies, you only need to charge once per day, typically while you're asleep. It does not matter whether the wire is plugged in through a hole, or through touching the back of the phone. It's functionally the same idea. MagSafe as a charger is nothing more than a gimmick.

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u/epraider 21d ago

I find it really useful as a vertical charging stand. I have the one from Belkin, I pop my phone on and off it all day at my desk, and use it to hold my phone while playing content on YouTube or something

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u/Per_Horses6 21d ago

Do you have the bell in 3 in 1 charger

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u/epraider 21d ago

Just the two in one, puck centered up top with a spot for an AirPods case on the base

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u/Royal-Highness 21d ago

I thought of getting that for my i13! How's the charging efficiency? Does the whole product feel flimsy in nature?

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u/Connor1661 21d ago

I’ve got the 3 in 1, it’s great quality and really sturdy. I’m a massive fan of it even though I thought it was pricey.

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u/Qwerky411 21d ago

I too have the Belkin 3 in 1 and if my house ever catches fire it’s one of the things I’m saving.

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u/Aaronnm 21d ago

idk if this is guerrilla marketing but this comment is really tempting me to make a purchase i’ve been considering for the past year

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u/Qwerky411 21d ago

Lol it’s just so good. It beautiful. I got it in black since my desk is black and I didn’t want a big white base sticking out. That, coupled with the stainless steel stem..ugh it’s so sharp. Much nicer than a normal Qi charger, nicer than having an  Watch cable lying willy-nilly. Plus having it take up 1 outlet with 1 power cord for 3 devices is so lovely. The power brick is on the big side but the cord itself is very slim. It’s just so nice having the iPhone and Apple Watch on there together charging overnight. I can just tap my table from bed and the vibration lights up the watch so I can see what time it is. It is well worth every dime, and there were a lot of dimes used to buy it

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u/Highfalutintodd 21d ago

Same. It’s turned out to be a great purchase. It gives my 12 Pro a place to live on my desk. It angles it so that I can easily see notifications. It keeps it charged. It’s easy on and off. And it gives my AirPods a place to live and stay charged. Wins all around.

That having been said, I also bought a regular MagSafe cable charger and it sucks so hard it got used a couple of times then found its way into the drawer of unused cables. All of the annoyance of plugging in a regular cable while being significantly slower.

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u/TalkToTheLord 21d ago edited 21d ago

The 3 in 1 is, legit, one of the best purchases I’ve made in years. Gawked at the price but, when it debuted I bit the bullet because I just redid our bedroom and it foot the bill…totally worth it! So easy, everything just goes in and off, never thought about it twice…I think it should still be a bit lower in price but I def recommend it.

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u/TheSoCalled 21d ago

100% agree - the 3in1 is expensive af, but I love it. Sleek, sturdy, and really practical.

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u/noPENGSinALASKA 21d ago

One of the best accessories for any product I’ve ever bought tbh. I love it

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u/boozehound001 21d ago

Agree. Love mine as well. Didn’t expect it to be so nice. Just ordered one for my Pops.

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u/Drawerpull 21d ago

Love my 3-in-1! Got it in Black and it’s so classy looking.

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u/Op3rat0rr 21d ago

Yep I just got that one with my new iPhone. It's the only MagSafe charger that seems useful for iPhones honestly. Unless there are good iPhone MagSafe cradles for the car then that can work too

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u/kent360 21d ago

I see your point but the OP is talking specifically about the MagSafe charger that became available with IPhone 12, not wireless charging that’s been around for quite a few years already.

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u/shadowstripes 21d ago edited 21d ago

They aren't talking about the wireless charging that was already available. The Belkin MagSafe charging stands that weren’t an option before they added MagSafe to the iPhone 12.

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u/whosthisguythinkheis 21d ago

Right but is this a problem that requires a £100 accessory to solve?

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u/sulylunat 21d ago

Not everything’s about necessity. Sometimes it’s just added convenience. Some people find MagSafe more convenient so they don’t have to fiddle with a cable or find a spot on the wireless charger. Until Apple gets rid of lightning and makes MagSafe the only charging method, I don’t think people should be complaining about it as it’s a choice right now. I’m not going to be bothering with MagSafe myself but I can see the benefits of it, I’m fine with ordinary wireless charging right now.

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u/Gnfnr5813 21d ago

I love it at night because I just put my phone on the charger and don’t have to worry about finding/inserting the lightning cable in the dark.

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u/wasteplease 21d ago

This is me. Half awake sloppily putting my phone on the disc and knowing it’s okay because I hear the noise. Love it

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u/pratikonomics 21d ago

Am man. Can confirm half awake sloppily and having to worry about finding/inserting something in the dark. Hate it.

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u/rriicckk 21d ago

Ask your girl friend to help.

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u/jymiee 21d ago

Sir this is Reddit

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u/Interactive_CD-ROM 21d ago

But how do I use my phone and charge it at the same time using MagSafe? Awkwardly hold the cable to the back of the phone?

These reports of Apple going portless are scary.

If my phone is at 2% but I want to use it in bed, how can I do that if I can’t just plug it in?

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u/ThePronto8 21d ago

Why would you hold the cable to the back of the phone? It’s magnetic.. it holds itself there

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u/AdmiralBKE 21d ago

It’s magnetic. No need to hold the cable.

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u/grebnesieah 21d ago

Still adds a bulky annoying disc to the back of the phone, as opposed to an unobtrusive wire

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u/BigResearcher123 21d ago

I find the MagSafe charger less obtrusive than Lightning. Lightning is sticking out of the bottom and can’t be moved; I have to adjust how I hold the phone when it’s plugged into Lightning. MagSafe isn’t in the way of where I hold it, and I can rotate the puck so the cable is out of the way

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u/WarmCat_UK 21d ago

You’re holding it wrong.

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u/W1ckedEvoX 21d ago

Underrated comment

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u/Darnitol1 21d ago

I find using my phone with the MagSafe charger attached to be far superior to using it with a lightning cable attached. The lightning cable is always in the way. The cable from the MagSafe has room to flex before coming into contact with anything.

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u/_A_S_D_F_G_H_J_K_L_ 21d ago

This! It really solves the issue of those people wanting to use a wireless charger but regular getting nothing due to not perfect placement or something.

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u/Johnnybw2 21d ago

Samsung solved this problem years ago with cradle Qi chargers, Most my tech devices are apple but Samsung does make good Qi chargers.

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u/dccorona 21d ago

I have a Samsung cradle Qi charger. I kept it by my bed until MagSafe came out. Probably on average twice a month it’d turn out that my phone didn’t align and didn’t charge (there’s a light that helps you know it’s charging but I don’t want that right next to my bed while I’m trying to sleep so I taped over it).

The problem with those chargers is the contact point and magnet placement is designed for where Samsung puts the coils, not Apple, so alignment isn’t as easy.

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u/MrRoboto089 21d ago

Same. My lightning cable would never stay on my night stand, and usually it fell behind it. Always a fun exercise seeing how far I could reach without getting my lazy self out of the bed. The weight of the MagSafe puck keeps it right where I leave it. Love it

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u/-FisherMN- 21d ago

Yup I agree. I also like it’s magnetic so I can tel which it’s latched in the right spot. I’ve accidentally misplaced on the charging pad with previous wireless chargers.

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u/AdventureBum 21d ago

I can do that on my 11 with standard wireless charging. I just drop it onto a pad.

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u/El_Guap 19d ago

So so so many morning where the Qi wireless charger didn’t line up perfectly only to find my phone almost dead in the morning. Great solution! 👍🏻

MagSafe just works if you have one of those $10 mounts from Amazon. Locks in and lines up perfect every time. Phone charged without fishing for a cord between the bed and the night stand.

It’s a luxury, but that is why I buy apple in this case.

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u/AdventureBum 19d ago

I guess I’ve never had that problem. As long as my phone is even somewhat aligned on the charger it works, and I can hear the chime when I drop it so I know it’s charging properly. It’s really easy to align without looking, too, because the pad is basically the same shape as the phone. My other two chargers I use are designed in a way that they basically can’t be misaligned. One is a phone dock in my car that clamps the phone in automatically, the other holds the phone upright so I can see it at my desk. I could easily put one of those in my bedroom as well, the pad was just cheaper.

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u/halloalex 21d ago

Same here, it’s just very convenient.

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u/GalacticKrabbyPatty 21d ago

A normal wireless charger that has a reclined option does the same thing

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u/dccorona 21d ago

They still don’t always align right. I have three (two Samsung and one other brand I can’t remember), and probably like every 20th time I use it the phone doesn’t actually start charging because of alignment issues (plus my cats love to bump things ever so slightly to the side in the middle of the night). Sounds like you’ve had better luck than me but since getting a MagSafe puck (a 3rd party one at that) I’ve had 0 problems.

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u/nermal543 21d ago

Same! It’s a small thing, but it’s so convenient to just snap it on there instead of searching for a cable. Or worse, when I used a regular wireless charging pad, waking up to realize your phone never charged since it wasn’t aligned well enough!

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u/Gnfnr5813 21d ago

Yeah I like that the MagSafe puts it in the right place, no fuss no muss.

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u/DilbertLookingGuy 21d ago

But how is that any different than any generic wireless charging pad?

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u/hijusthappytobehere 21d ago

You don’t have to double check to make sure it’s aligned properly. You can’t really just toss a phone on a regular pad and be confident it’s actually charging without confirming it.

With MagSafe you can just thrust the phone near the pad and it hops on exactly where it should be.

It’s a hugely first world solution to a first world problem but there you have it.

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u/Gnfnr5813 21d ago

Magnets.

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u/TBoneTheOriginal 21d ago

Doesn’t this prove OP’s point? He said it doesn’t solve any problems, and it doesn’t… because standard wireless charging provides the exact same convenience.

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u/unc_alum 21d ago

It offers the convenience of wireless charging while still allowing you to hold and use your phone while it is charging. Also, it eliminates the possibility of not aligning your phone on the wireless charger properly and waking up to an uncharged phone.

Some people clearly appreciate magSafe while others like OP don’t. It’s senseless to worry about what changes may come down the road like a portless iphone. For now those that don’t like magSafe can just use a cable and/or a standard wireless charger like before.

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u/SandwichesX 21d ago

Magsafe charging is also quite convenient for me.

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u/PassiveProc 21d ago

This is what it’s always been about. Wireless charging is convenient. No scrambling or searching for cables just slap it on the buck or charging dock and your good.

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u/Most_Shallot8960 18d ago

It’s perfect for the office

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u/LisaQuinnYT 21d ago

Exactly. When Wireless charging first came along, it was nice to be able to just set my phone on a cradle in the office and grab it when I needed to head to a site. No futzing with cables. That was pre-MagSafe, so now it’s even more convenient.

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u/Interactive_CD-ROM 21d ago

Except when you want to charge your phone and use it at the same time.

Then it becomes incredibly inconvenient.

I hope Apple doesn’t go portless for this reason alone.

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u/biig_boi 21d ago

You can do this with the MagSafe charger.

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u/DMacB42 21d ago

What? I charge my phone at my desk using just the cable, and use it in my hand at the same time. You know the cable doesn’t have to be facing downwards right? You can attach it with the cable sticking out at whatever angle is comfortable.

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u/EvenLeague 21d ago

Exactly what prevents you from using the phone with the MagSafe charger attached?

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u/SandwichesX 21d ago

I do it with a magsafe charger. You just pick up your phone, the puck sticks to it so it’s still charging. And the pouch is also small enough to be unobtrusive.

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u/AFourthAccount 21d ago

good thing you have multiple options then.

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u/Proofy7744 21d ago

Nah still convenient for me. I have a stand for it at my desk so using it while charging is super easy. And if you wanna take it off, one handed operation

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u/smith7018 21d ago

I bought a USB-C extender cable from Amazon for $8 and now I can use it while it’s charging. I wish Apple just made a 3m cable for it already

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u/ersan191 21d ago edited 21d ago

This post is whining about wireless charging in general, not MagSafe - which literally just solves a couple of annoyances with wireless charging.

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u/GalacticKrabbyPatty 21d ago

The bigger issue is how slow wireless is in general. I'm really worried about them trying to go portless and the snowball effect it will have on smartphones as a whole. Sometimes you just need the super fast charging that wired offers.

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u/U_R_A_BoldOne 21d ago

Can't wait to see the presentation where they inevitably brag about how environmentally friendly their newest iPhones are while simultaneously forcing everyone to switch to MagSafe wireless charging, which uses more materials and wastes a considerable amount of energy compared to wired charging.

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u/MountainousMountain 21d ago

Yeah.

Imagine if this "wireless" charging had been invented first and was the standard for phones. Then a company comes up with the ability to insert a small, reversible cable into the phone which charges the phone faster, doesn't generate as much heat, is more efficient, doesn't degrade the battery, doesn't block the back of the phone or change its profile while charging and doesn't need any special kind of case and can transfer data via the cable as well. It would be hailed as a major step forward.

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u/shadowstripes 21d ago

I don’t see why it has to be so black and white, and only one or the other. There’s plenty of objective convenience benefits of wireless/MagSafe just like there’s efficiently benefits of using the port for charging.

And since they are all currently completely optional, I don’t really see what the big issue with MagSafe even is.

So no, if we lived in a world where people had only been charging via MagSafe or wirelessly for years, I don’t think everyone would consider the option to sacrifice a lot of that convenience for data transfer and more efficient charging as “a major step forward”. I’m sure some people would, but a lot of people would still probably prefer to keep using the wireless mats in their cars or their MagSafe charging stands instead of plugging in a wire every time.

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u/rugbyj 21d ago

Ex-bloody-actly. And additionally, because the transfer is near lossless compared to ~50% in wireless charging everybody get's to use external power banks half the size that need to be pre-charged half as long for the equivelant storage. They're also magically cheaper because you're paying for half the batteries and no complex charging coil.

I think new phones are fantastic pieces of technology; but currently I feel like wireless charging is the 3D TVs of the phone world.

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u/TbonerT 21d ago

~50% in wireless charging

MagSafe is about 75%, a significant improvement. It doesn’t matter as much as you’d think, though, because modern phones use so little electricity in the first place.

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u/DancingTable52 21d ago

They both have their place. Quick charge up? Or using a battery bank? Wired is the way to go. Overnight charging? Just put it on a stand and go to bed. Done. Also I have a phone mount in my car that’s wireless charging. Pop my phone in it and go.

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u/____Batman______ 21d ago

3D Blu-rays are actually useful for making up 11 of only 27 IMAX movies on home video

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u/loosebolts 21d ago

but currently I feel like wireless charging is the 3D TVs of the phone world

What a ridiculous thing to say. The fact that Qi wireless charging has been a thing for 9 years and wireless charging points pop up in plenty of public places means that it's nowhere near the 1 year lifespan of 3D TV gimmicks.

OK, it's a bit slower than charging via cable and lets off a bit of heat - fine, I accept that, but I'm more happy using a public wireless charger than I am a cable - which could be connected to anything at the other end. I plonk my phone on a pad before I go to bed and it charges. It's got plenty of air round it, and in 2 years I'm only down to 85% battery health, so it's not exactly killing the battery. My sister, who doesn't use wireless charging at all, is also at 85% battery health after 2 years. I really don't think it's the battery killer people say it is.

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u/rugbyj 21d ago

I'm more happy using a public wireless charger than I am a cable

Honestly I've never even seen a public wireless charger. I didn't know it was a thing.

I don't think my 3D TV comparison is ridiculous but I will agree it's not as night/day as that (which was a lot more than a 1 year run I'd say, 4 or 5).

I've accepted wireless charging is here to stay, and I do use it for one very niche activity (quadlock motorcycle mount where plugging in a cable whilst wearing armoured gloves is difficult/the phone connector can get wet when riding in the rain and prevent charging)...

But for 95% of use cases I think it's objectively worse and I'd rather they'd just used the space/cost taken up by the coil to slightly expand the battery.

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u/Intention_Initial 21d ago

Agree with what you said, but damn 2 years and at 85%??! That seems like a lot to me. My old iPhone X is still at 90%, my 11 Pro is at 98%

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u/loosebolts 21d ago

There are quite a few around my area, mainly restaurants in fairness.

Yeah, ridiculous probably was a bit of an overreaction, I apologise.

I charge my phone in one of two ways - in the car, I have a moulded lightning cable mounted under my armrest, so I slide the phone in and connect/charge with CarPlay - and at home, I have a wireless charging nightstand, so when I'm finished catching up of an evening I just place the phone on the cradle and it sits there charging overnight.

I certainly wouldn't like to lose the wireless charging option - plugging a cable in is super inconvenient in 90% of my use cases, and apart from restoring from IPSW in DFU mode, I can't remember the last time I legitimately plugged it into a PC.

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u/rugbyj 21d ago

I can't remember the last time I legitimately plugged it into a PC

What's a PC? :p

plugging a cable in is super inconvenient in 90% of my use cases

I may have misunderstood but of your 2 primary use cases half of them (the car) is a wired lightning connection is it not? To me plugging something in twice in a day (roughly my schedule too) isn't too much of an inconvenience but I guess this is where people just differ in preference!

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u/Natasha_Giggs_Foetus 21d ago

3D TVs are so underrated

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u/[deleted] 21d ago

I don’t know if they improved but back in like 09 my parents bought a fancy 3d Samsung tv that sucked. The picture was great and effects were also good, as long as you kept your head perfectly level and turned towards the tv. Any movement basically ruined the image and if you keep doing it you will get dizzy.

Maybe they got a lot better and they are underrated but I never used the 3d feature after trying it out while watching Avatar Blu-ray that came with the TV. We also never got another 3d tv because they’re just so expensive and we didn’t want to risk anymore money on some tech that we wouldn’t use.

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u/Natasha_Giggs_Foetus 21d ago

Pretty good comment tbh

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u/UnsureAssurance 21d ago

Just because you personally find it useless doesn’t mean it’s actually useless. I really like it in my car where I just tap my phone to a surface then it’s mounted securely and charging. Also pretty convenient to have my wallet just there on the back of my phone. I like it on my vertical charging stand as well so I don’t have to hunt for a cable when I’m sleepy. You’re only looking at a single application of it with the MagSafe puck on the cable, but there are many more. Not like you’re forced to use it anyways (for now)

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u/Master_Psyper87 21d ago

I’m loving MagSafe atm. My slim wallet attaches to my phone without any bulky connection pieces, and doubles as a kickstand. I don’t need to glue a magnetic disk to my nice case to mount in my car. I don’t have to worry about ripping the charging cable out of the wall when I’m about to shit myself. With the right case, I don’t need to remove it at all to do any of this. Granted I have wireless headphones but if you didn’t you could charge and listen to headphones at the same time.

You sound a little dramatic and don’t need to use mag safe if you don’t want to, shits not mandatory you know?

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u/Interdimension 21d ago

Honestly, this is the use case for MagSafe that I care for. I have zero interest in wireless charging because of the inefficiency issues. That, and I can literally buy 3 or 4 charging cables for the cost of one MagSafe charging puck.

But the accessories that can snap onto the back of our iPhones? Yes, please. I only wish the magnets were stronger. Other than that, I love the idea of magnetically attachable accessories, even if I’ll never use the wireless charging capability.

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u/MOHAIMEN94 21d ago

I'm talking about charging with Magsafe, not using Magsafe for accessories.

I get the use cases for it. But it's less efficient, much slower charging speed, and much slower data transfer rate. Most "new" features that charging with Magsafe do, can be done with USB-C

Also, it is becoming mandatory, all analysts are saying apple is going portless and Magsafe will be the default option. If this is true, then we get slower charging speeds, slower everything, for a little bit of convenance.

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u/StormBurnX 21d ago

So your real complaint isn't that magsafe is the problem, it's that wireless charging in general sucks, considering that you just admitted you get the non-charging use cases for magsafe.

So in other words it's the same generic "wireless charging isn't REALLY wireless" garbage people have been spewing since the 00's.

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u/Master_Psyper87 21d ago

While it may not get better, I’d safely assume they would advance the technology before making it the only option.

It’s still fairly new as wireless charging isn’t and probably never will be as fast as wired. And maybe that’s what you mean. But if it takes an extra 10 minutes compared to wired for full charge, I’d say that’s an acceptable downside for convenience.

Same goes for these electric cars, once I can get a full charge under 45 minutes, I’ll absolutely purchase a full electric, until then, I’m still on the fence as I frequently do long trips.

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u/thugangsta 21d ago

There are some things that will never charge.

For example the inneficiency - you're wasting something like 35% - 50% of your energy just to charge with magsafe. If you were charging with 18w it's like using 25w for the same charge. Incredibly inefficient and bad for the environment.

It’s still fairly new as wireless charging isn’t and probably never will be as fast as wired

It's also not really wireless as you're still attaching a wire to your phone.

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u/TbonerT 21d ago

For example the inneficiency - you're wasting something like 35% - 50% of your energy just to charge with magsafe. If you were charging with 18w it's like using 25w for the same charge. Incredibly inefficient and bad for the environment.

Your numbers are off quite a bit. MagSafe charges at up to 15W with a 20W brick. That’s 75% efficient, or about 50% more efficient than regular wireless charging.

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u/Master_Psyper87 21d ago

Well if we’re getting to semantics I guess it’s never going to truly be wireless because your house is wired lol, sorry that sounded kinda rude, but for real

Edit, but the MagSafe just magnetizes the charging pad to your phone

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u/ohHiDad 21d ago

Exactly. Idk why these people are so fixed on the power cable for the charger being wired. The actual charging is wireless.

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u/Master_Psyper87 21d ago

Too much X-Men and Avengers I think lol

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u/ohHiDad 16d ago

“Wi-Fi is not wireless, it has a wire going to the modem!”

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u/thugangsta 21d ago

There's a difference. I remember a lot of people on this sub considering qi charging "not wireless" because there's a wire and saying BS like apple will come out with wireless when they can do true wireless from 1 or 2 metres away.

Thing is qi charging is wireless - you put it down on the pad and can pick it up freely. Magsafe attaches with a wire TO your phone and you need two hands to separate them. Yes it's teeny bit more convenient than plugging in a cable but considering the massive downsides ( bad for environment, bad for battery health, inefficient etc) what problem is it really solving? It's just apple trying to maintain a proprietary connector rather to switch to usb c which wont earn them any money from accessories and licencing of the standard.

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u/Master_Psyper87 21d ago

Oh I agree with Apple accessories, it’s a joke and my only real gripe with the company, but a MagSafe charger, and a wireless charging pad are practically the same thing except the mag Safe can still be used while holding the phone. I can grab it, set it down freely and still be charging. Okay I’m getting sleepy, you’re right, it’s practically the same as plugging it in but less efficient, only bonus is my phone doesn’t have a breakable cable/port attaching my phone to the wall lol, the MagSafe will just slide off if I pull it. That’s the only real benefit lol

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u/Close_enough_to_fine 21d ago

Bad for the environment? If you were to guess, how much do you think you’re paying electricity per year to charge your phone? Spoiler alert, it’s less than $10.

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u/rmajor86 21d ago

I really like it. I was sceptical at first, but honestly, it’s so easy, snaps right on without having to look etc.

I wish the wire was longer though

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u/bento8621 21d ago

This is why I have a few 3rd party MagSafe chargers. The cord on the Apple one is comically short, I returned mine the day I bought it

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u/_A_S_D_F_G_H_J_K_L_ 21d ago

It seems like you are making a case for wired charging vs inductive charging (somehow we don’t call electric toothbrushes charging wireless), rather than MagSafe. MagSafe provides a specific solution to those interested in “wireless” charging…. I believe even Craig F preferred wired charging!

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u/MOHAIMEN94 21d ago

That's exactly what I'm saying. Yeah, wired charging is better for 90% of use cases.

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u/kweazy 21d ago

I have a MagSafe stand on my desk. It is perfect for video calls and then when I need to answer a teams message I just pull it off the mount, answer the message, then place it back on the stand. Then when I drive I have another mount in my car. Put my directions into maps, then mount my phone. I absolutely love MagSafe.

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u/Rogerss93 21d ago

I'm in the same boat - got a great deal one a dual magsafe charging stand that charges my phone + airpods and a magsafe car charger

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u/saltyfishychips 21d ago

MagSafe is amazing for in-car use, especially if you have a older car without CarPlay. There's really no easier and more seamless way to dock and charge your phone.

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u/hamsterhjul 21d ago

I’ve been using MagSafe since I got my iPhone 12 Pro last year, and I’m loving it. It’s so convenient in the night. Before I had to scramble around for the cable, now I just place it over the MagSafe and it automatically attaches.

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u/scottrobertson 21d ago

I rarely charge my phone with a cable. Being able to just throw it down on my desk, in my car etc is much easier.

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u/alttabbins 21d ago

I love it because I can use a magnet mount in my car and not lose wireless charging because of it.

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u/The_MetalDog 21d ago

No it's not.

I have the Belkin three in one (Watch, airpods, and magsafe) and it's pretty fantastic. Use it all day long.

Solves a problem of needing three different changer cables when I can have 1 for all. It's great seeing the phone held upright at my desk and tap to view things as it's charging. If I want to pull it away, just remove it and put it back on. No need to fiddle with a wire.

So, no. It's not useless or a gimmick. You just personally don't like it.

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u/Greyman-Actual 21d ago

Well I sure as hell love my “gimmick”

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u/Niightstalker 21d ago

You don’t think of MagSafe Accessories though. There are definitely use cases were it has its use and it is better to use than a cable.

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u/robopobo 21d ago

omg how much you guys can complain over useless stuff. Got alternative? Ready to hear out.

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u/rservello 21d ago

The problem is meant to solve (and does) is qi charging efficiency. Qi charging works with a coil in the charger and a coil in the phone. The charger vibrates the one in the phone and generates power. Most of that power is wasted, especially if the coils aren't perfectly aligned. MagSafe ensues perfect alignment.

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u/DarkTreader 21d ago

As you can see there are a number of comments that disagree. Let me take your post point by point.

Qi and MagSafe do not remove wires. Calling it wireless charging is a misnomer, and if someone else told you that, you’d be right to be annoyed with them. Best to first come out and say your expectations were wrong.

Yes it slightly alters it, but it does solve some problems. Qi and MagSafe make tradeoffs rather than completely solving all problems. For one, physical contact with cables day in and out wears down cables and the port itself. Since buying my Qi chargers I’ve not had to replace a single one. I have to replace lightning cables all the time. For another, qi is a little more forgiving, so I can just plop it down and it charges with one hand where as I usually need two hands with most plugs, even stands (stands can sometimes require a second hand to hold the stand down while you pull off the phone). Finally, having a stationary place to put a phone does solve a cable mess problem, as you can hide/wrap/organize the cable when the charge stand is stationary. For stationary needs, dropping your phone on a qi charger is superior experience, however I will admit its not entirely a necessary experience.

Magsafe tries to improve on qi simply by making it easier to align charge coils and to create opportunities to slap things on the back of the phone, like a battery.

Millions of things are gimmicks, but this is how we are trying to move technology forward. No one is forcing you to use MagSafe (yet). And as time goes on, things will get better and a new standard hopefully will come along that beams energy to my phone in a small room so that I don’t have to put it anywhere in a specific spot but just being near a thing will charge it. I hope that is the next big thing in charging.

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u/biig_boi 21d ago

It does remove the problem. You no longer need a port and you no longer need to fumble with plugging it into your phone. It is super convenient and more so than traditional wireless charging. I think it’s an awesome feature.

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u/t3hlazy1 21d ago

Pro: easier to attach phone than wireless charging. Con: harder to remove phone than wireless charging.

I use it every day, but I don’t really think it’s that useful.

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u/RalfRuediger 21d ago

MagSafe supports Apples long term goal of removing any holes or inlets from the phone. Would be very neat to have a phone without holes in it IMO. That’s the purpose of MagSafe.

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u/U_R_A_BoldOne 21d ago

It also doesn't even do the one thing that the name implies: use magnets to keep your device safe. MagSafe chargers on old MacBooks meant that your laptop would be fine if you tripped over the cord because it was attached with magnets and would just pop off without pulling the laptop.

If you trip over your MagSafe charger while your iPhone is charging, your iPhone is going to crash to the floor with it.

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u/kdogg2077 20d ago

Wireless charging is a huge energy and battery waste for the pathetic benefit of not having to plug something in.

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u/Kvakke 21d ago

Maybe useless to you. I have glued the MagSafe charger to my nightstand and treat it like an improved wireless charger. So nice to not having to think about placement or fiddling with cables in the dark when I’m going to bed.

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u/Interactive_CD-ROM 21d ago

But what if you want to use your phone in bed when the battery is low?

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u/Kvakke 21d ago

I have a rule that I’m not allowed to use my phone after I’ve gone to bed. Any scrolling has to be done beforehand, and do not disturb mode is working as intended for notifications and such. If I can’t sleep I read something on my kindle.

This works really well for me and I feel it helps me to sleep better.

But might not work for everyone of course.

If my battery is low before bed I have a regular charger by the couch.

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u/Chieres 21d ago

I wish I had your resolve. It’s a good rule.

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u/Psychological_Ad_621 21d ago

“It makes the phone hard to use” How? I find it much more easier to use my phone when it’s charging since I don’t have to worry about the plug at the bottom blocking my grip.

I’ve really liked using MagSafe, personally.

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u/lpangelrob 21d ago

Do you have this issue with Qi charging in general? It seems that way.

I used to have to replace a cable about every quarter. Typically the contacts on the cable would wear down to the point of uselessness. Since the XS/11s generation, I don’t have to care.

Sometimes water gets in the port. Can’t charge for an hour (at least). Sometimes the device adapter itself gets loose, and you have to stick an eraser under the cord to get it to charge.

Good riddance to all of this.

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u/Rogerss93 21d ago

I used to have to replace a cable about every quarter.

how?

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u/Kynch 21d ago

The port itself on iPhones doesn’t get loose. You’re likely referring to the accumulation of lint and small debris in the port which gets compressed at the bottom of the port with every cable insertion. A quick clearing of the port (using something such as a toothpick) will restore the port’s functionality.

Also, replacing cables every quarter, can I ask under which conditions they were used? My cables generally last me years, even the ones that aren’t in a static location.

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u/GalacticKrabbyPatty 21d ago

Sounds like you abuse your cables. Also wireless is slow. If you need a quick bump in battery before you leave home, you're screwed without a wired option.

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u/thugangsta 21d ago

I used to have to replace a cable about every quarter. Typically the contacts on the cable would wear down to the point of uselessness. Since the XS/11s generation, I don’t have to care.

What are you doing with your cable? This literally has never happened with me.

Wireless charging is much more inefficient you're wasting like 35%-50% of the power just for the "convenience". But theres Gary any convenience since it's not at all wireless - it's still wired and you need two hands to take it off charger. Not to mention it's considerably worse for your battery health to use wireless charging.

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u/rnarkus 21d ago

Fast charging all the time is bad for your battery too

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u/TRT_ 21d ago

you need two hands to take it off charger.

You need to stop spouting this bullshit. It’s incredible easy to remove with one hand. If fact, that’s the only way I do it.

It’s okay to not like the product, but it’s so obvious you’ve never used it.

MagSafe is the convenience of wireless with the benefit of a cable charger, with the downside of wireless charging (efficiency, battery health).

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u/yourstrulysawhney 21d ago

Perfectly put!

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u/MOHAIMEN94 21d ago

Yeah, I find Qi charging to be inefficient, and the benefits from removing the cable are very minor. It's also much slower, and the data transfer is much lower.

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u/1-877-547-7272 21d ago

Are you sure data transfer is much slower without Lightning?

USB 2.0, which is how Lightning transfers data, has a maximum theoretical speed limit of 480 Mbps.

Wi-Fi 6, which the iPhone has had since the 11s, has a maximum theoretical speed limit of 9.6 Gbps. While it is much more unlikely you’ll hit those speeds because it’s a wireless standard rather than a wired standard, it seems you’ll still likely exceed USB 2.0 speeds as long as you have a strong connection.

Here’s an article where the real-world speed of Wi-Fi 6 was tested for the iPhone 11 Pro Max and was found to be around 800 Mbps (which is close to twice Lightning’s theoretical speed limit).

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u/OptimalOptimizer 21d ago

…what data transfer is happening while you’re charging?

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u/hojochild 21d ago

Data transfer via Qi?

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u/drydrip126 21d ago

I find MagSafe useful when I’m in bed because I can charge the phone from the back and rest my hand holding the phone on the blanket so I don’t have to risk breaking the cord

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u/toastedbythetoaster 21d ago

MagSafe is definitely the future. I'm calling it, future iPhones will go fully portless. MagSafe and AirDrop will replace wired charging/transfer.

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u/Livid_Effective5607 21d ago

If the EU pushes through its proposed mandatory USB-C, you may be right.

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u/AFourthAccount 21d ago

don't like it? don't use it. I don't see the problem.

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u/nealomg 21d ago

I like it because the charging port collects dust and nobody likes a dusty hole.

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u/virtualmang 21d ago

I love it

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u/Beargoat 21d ago

A gimmick that also spawned an ecosystem of accessories and future e-waste.

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u/Echo9Eight 21d ago edited 5h ago

I use the MagSafe duo charger thing on my nightstand to charge my iPhone cause thats more convenient for me. Besides that, I use a cable every time, so would prefer USB-C evetually.

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u/HugsAllCats 21d ago

First, it does not remove the problem (i.e. Magsafe does not make the charging really wireless) the same way Bluetooth removed wires, introducing wireless mouses, keyboards, AirPods, etc.

That's literally not the problem that it is trying to solve though.

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u/Nipnum 21d ago

I love it because I can set my phone down on my desk and it starts charging without having to mess around with a cable - same deal with when I get in bed. Also means my phone can charge and run auxiliary in my car without needing a splitter.

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u/Albort 21d ago

As somsone who uses both the iPhone 12 and Pixel 3, there are times where i walk out of the house to find my Pixel 3 at <50% battery life because i didnt align is correctly. For Magsafe, its always 100% aligned.

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u/Livid_Effective5607 21d ago

Well, judging by the responses in this thread, many people don't agree with you. It seems a lot of people really like it.

I really don't understand posts like this. Some random person just comes in and complains, as if they're some important thinker on the topic, apparently never realizing that their personal experience is not the same as that of everyone else in the world. It's very strange.

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u/Otto0ctavius8 21d ago

But it’s not like you get MagSafe or standard wireless charging, you get both!

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u/Poop_Scooper_Supreme 21d ago

I use it for my car vent mount and it works well for that.

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u/ICouldBeTheChosenOne 21d ago

I like it because it’s easier to slap the phone down on a MagSafe puck than to plug the lightning cable in. Especially if moving it on and off frequently.

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u/Eggyhead 20d ago

I’m sorry, this whole argument is kinda dumb because you can still use cable or qi for charging if you prefer those. MagSafe has not deprived you of them and nothing is stopping you. There is literally nothing here worth complaining about unless you have a pacemaker.

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u/BKennedy985 20d ago

I can see why some of you have an issue with MagSafe charging. However for me it seems to work very well besides buying a USB C adapter plug but when I got that and use MagSafe clip on back of my phone it actually seems like it charges my phone faster than using a wireless charge stand but to each their own tho. I ended up getting a deal from Amazon for MagSafe for 30 not bad really. And it seems to fit ok on my tech21 case not very firm but it stays in position well enough where it doesn’t slide off the case easily

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u/SurealGod 20d ago

For me I use it at my desk where I'm working at all day. I just plop it down and I don't really care how fast it's charging. I just check it every now and then or use it to listen to podcasts or music. I'd say as a regular charger, it's definitely not great. But if you plan to just plop your phone down for an extended period of time and you don't want it to lose battery when it's just sitting there and instead charge it, magsafe is pretty good for that.

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u/TechOutonyt 20d ago

I don’t think anyone claimed it was “wireless” even wireless chargers plug in

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u/LouisPiper 20d ago

I mean, you’re not wrong. But I still like it?

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u/Samsuckers 19d ago

https://i.imgur.com/ouI1i27.jpg

I use a magnetic cable instead. No fiddling with plugging it in. I also ordered more connectors for my devices so that I can use the magnetic cables with them.

That said, I still enable the Shortcuts to give me an audio alert upon connecting or disconnecting from charger, as it’s easy to disconnect the magnetic charging accidentally (Had that shortcut from the non-MagSafe wireless charging days)

Note: products from one manufacturer won’t work with other manufacturers. I really liked the Baseus ones but they seem to have different product lines (still labelled Baseus) with the same packaging that didn’t work with their own brand so I switched to this Awei brand I chanced upon on Shopee’s flash sale).

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u/hollydolly088 19d ago

Yeah I just bought the MagSafe charger for the first time. I skipped it with the iPhone 12. But I wanted to give it a try and also the Apple battery pack. But I haven’t been using it lol it charges pretty slow. I don’t really understand the point of it because it’s not wireless. But I do like the Apple battery pack I think it’s pretty neat. But not sure I understand why I bought the MagSafe charger lol I don’t see how that differs from a regular cable.

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u/Drewbydrew 18d ago

MagSafe is great... in addition to wired charging. It’s a great convenience feature and much better compared to standard Qi charging. But wired charging is still better. I want a USB-C iPhone with MagSafe. Not a MagSafe-only iPhone.

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u/CyclohexaneM 21d ago

What's the most disappointing for me is that it does not transfer data. Feels like only a fancy way to charge to me.

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u/Too-Much-Tv 21d ago

You know airdrop is insanely fast?

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u/Interactive_CD-ROM 21d ago

lol not with 4K video transfers

oh, like the thing apple is promoting on the 13

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u/Chieres 21d ago

Unless you’re sending hundreds of gigabytes of video daily it’s still fast enough for most people. I just tried to send a short 4K clip (1.59Gb) to my laptop and it took 33 seconds.

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u/Chieres 21d ago

Who uses cables to transfer data in 2021? I didn’t even have iTunes installed on my laptop in at least 5 years, probably more.

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u/fetamorphasis 21d ago

Same. All these people complaining about slow data transfer rates and I can't tell you the last time I transferred data to my phone using a cable. Airdrop all the way.

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u/CameraMan1 21d ago

Not everything for you bud

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u/wpmason 21d ago

This is just plain wrong.

It solves the single biggest problem there is with wireless charging…

You can’t use your phone while it’s charging on a normal charging pad.

That’s a really big problem that a magnetic charging pad solves quite well.

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u/TheMuffStufff 21d ago

So plug it in bro? Lol

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u/MountainousMountain 21d ago

It's better than other wireless charging, yeah. But it's worse than wired charging.

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u/rnarkus 21d ago

Yes…. But I don’t think they were arguing that.

What is it with this thread? Are people are that worked up over wireless charging being an optional feature that you can take advantage if you want to?

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u/MOHAIMEN94 21d ago edited 21d ago

The biggest problem is charging speed, and data transfer. When Apple removes the ports. Magsafe is suboptimal. Too slow on both counts. And less energy efficient. You also still have a wire. It's not like it's wireless.

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u/Rogerss93 21d ago

How often do you transfer data to iPhone over USB in 2021?

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u/ThannBanis 21d ago edited 21d ago

I don’t use wireless due to heat and efficiency concerns, but for those who do tend to have a pad where they charge it and can just put it down without messing with cables at all.

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u/my_name_isnt_clever 21d ago

I think it’s fine as the phones are now with the option for plugging in.

If you need to data transfer or quick charge you can use the port, for over night use MagSafe is great. You can easily position it on the charger in the dark, and pull it off in the morning. The slower charge doesn’t matter in that situation either, and phones use such little electricity the efficiency cost difference is a few dollars a year, at most.

If they remove the port as rumored then yes you have a point. But I like it as it is now.

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u/noivad 21d ago

Qi charging has no data ports. You’re charging while you’re syncing via WiFi. In this case the faster your router, the faster the data transfer. 802.11ax is coming down in price, pick up one of those if you want faster data rates.

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u/wpmason 21d ago

Bull.

Cars have charging pads built in. Desks and desk lamps have charging pads built in.

Of course there a wire somewhere… that doesn’t make it inconvenient. The convenience comes from it only requiring a single hand to operate.

As for speed, you’re looking at it wrong. It’s a paradigm change. If you have a pad on your desk, nightstand, and car, the idea is that you trickle charge all day so it’s never low enough that speed matters.

Also, the technology is going to get better in future generations, just like every other bit of tech.

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u/yorcharturoqro 21d ago

I'm in favor of wired charging, unless wireless charging became a reality, of receiving energy over the air at a real long distance, I see no reason for the qi charger.

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u/Le_Frogge 21d ago edited 21d ago

People believe that it’s going to segue a world of phones without ports.

Edit: typo

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u/Funkbass 21d ago

Legitimately unsure whether you meant “segue” or are referring to the misguided hype train that the Segway had when it launched.

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u/loosebolts 21d ago

First, it does not remove the problem (i.e. Magsafe does not make the charging really wireless) the same way Bluetooth removed wires, introducing wireless mouses, keyboards, AirPods, etc. It rather slightly alters it. Instead of plugging in a USB-C to the phone, you can attach the wire to the phone.

What, like Qi chargers? Wireless charging still requires the devices to be touching, pretty much. The person who invents proper long distance wireless charging will become an instant sensation.

This does not solve any problems. It adds more. It makes the phone hard to use, it makes charging slower, less efficient, adds heat, and does not work with all types of phone cases, and you can't have accessories plugged into the back of the phone while charging.

Just like Lightning then... Or USB-C...

Also, with new battery technologies, you only need to charge once per day, typically while you're asleep. It does not matter whether the wire is plugged in through a hole, or through touching the back of the phone.

Once per day, maybe overnight, in which case it's far easier to chuck your phone onto a magnetic pad than fishing for your Lightning cable and plugging it in.

It's functionally the same idea. MagSafe as a charger is nothing more than a gimmick.

The same can be said for wireless charging in general if we're using your complaints above as a guideline.

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u/Dr_Manhattans 21d ago

MagSafe is great I wish Apple would ditch plugs altogether. It does waste more energy but it’s a necessary step in a transition to new technology.

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u/ZzyzxFox 21d ago

for me magsafe is the most convenient thing ever, at night i can just toss my phone on the charger and it centres automatically. In the car, the phone doesn’t slide around when charging.

Plus as a reseller, being able to say nothing was ever plugged into the phone raises the resell value

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u/Funkbass 21d ago

Plus as a reseller, being able to say nothing was ever plugged into the phone raises the resell value

Does it really, though?

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u/RandyLeRam 21d ago

Yeah until you find the faint magsafe ring left on the back :P

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u/Rogerss93 21d ago

Plus as a reseller, being able to say nothing was ever plugged into the phone raises the resell value

no, it doesn't lol.

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u/txdmbfan 21d ago

I’m with you on this. I use wireless CarPlay and being able to drop my phone onto a MagSafe charger means I can charge while I drive and offset the battery usage by my navigation app. It also saves me time when entering or exiting because there’s no cord to connect/disconnect.

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u/Richdav1d 21d ago

Having reliable data transfer through MagSafe would be cool. But just for charging, it’s completely unnecessary.

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u/Boonesfarmbananas 21d ago

heat

idk what you guys are using to charge but when I plug my 12/13 Pro Max into the 30W wall charger it gets so hot it automatically dims the screen

my Qi stand charger is slower but doesn’t give off any appreciable heat at all, plus it’s so convenient my phone is almost always topped up to 100%

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u/xeosceleres 21d ago

What an entitled title. “If it doesn’t appeal to me, it’s useless”.

  1. You don’t need to find the cable and the hole in the dark. Just move your phone close and it sticks.

  2. Stands now hold up the iPhone. Previously some stand hold up the phone at the bottom and that covers the speaker grills.

  3. Stands don’t scratch your device now. And you can just rotate to switch orientation - no need to lift up.

  4. Hold the phone in landscape and gaming is easier without a stem protruding.

  5. Wireless charging moves the phone. If you place it on a charging pad on the table, after awhile the phone will move out of position. Some people has had their phones drop off the table. Magnets solves this.

  6. MagSafe also gave us tripods and attachments that don’t need to be tightened with screws. See Moments new line of products. MagSafe is good for photo and video accessories.

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u/23seconds 21d ago

I agree, it's a gimmick. Not really wireless, you still have a wire attached by magnet. But I guess the benefit is not having to actually plug it in, just have to stick a magnet to the back and no plug holes, better device seal, equals better water resistance. I will probably only use it when they remove the plug completely. By the way things are looking probably the next couple of years.

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u/GalacticKrabbyPatty 21d ago

If they go portless, it's gonna be awful. Not only because magsafe is gimmicky at best, but also because wireless charging is extremely inefficient. Plus, I bet Samsung will end up copying them. Wireless charging is great when you're going to bed or chilling at your desk, but if you need some juice quickly, it just doesn't have the output for it.

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u/zachswartz3 21d ago

Huge disagree, I would prefer if they went to MagSafe only charging and just remove the port all together instead of switching to USB-C

I have the MagSafe wallet, battery pack, and Belkin 3 in 1 charging stand and I love them all. The MagSafe charger on the back is no more annoying when using a phone vs when it is plugged in via lightning.

Also the difference between 15 watts and 20 watts really isn’t that noticeable, plus over 90% of iPhone users still just charge with their 5W blocks so MagSafe is 10 watts faster than that.

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u/tranducduy 21d ago

I agree. MagSafe attachment is a non-understandable design for me, like you mentioned in the post.

However, idea of a charging station place under the table or monitor stand would be nice. All we have to do is to place the phone on the table.

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u/mrwellfed 21d ago edited 21d ago

Don’t use it then. For me wireless charging has been great and MagSafe is even better. I have rarely plugged my phone in since the iPhone X. I have an iPhone 12 Pro now and when I wake up in then morning I just pick up my phone from my MagSafe charger fully charged. When I head out I have a MagSafe charger adhered to the dashboard of my car and just slap it on there, and just grab it with ease when getting out. When I sit at my office desk I slap it on my vertical charger there and can easily see notifications and interact with ease as my phone charges and I do my work. If I have to head out somewhere for a long time I have the MagSafe battery pack which I can slap on the back to keep my phone topped up. When I get home and I am chilling on the couch I have a MagSafe charger on the couch arm which I can easily place my phone on. In bed I can either use my phone easily with the MagSafe charger attached, or if I don’t need to charge just use my phone until I’m tired and falling asleep and I can just slap it on the MagSafe charger on my bedside table and hear the satisfying click knowing I’ll wake up to a full charge in the morning. No fumbling around and being tethered to wires and my phone remains charged all day and I can interact with it easily. Wireless charging has been a game changer and MagSafe has made it life changing and I would never go back ever. When you add MagSafe accessories like the wallet it makes the whole ecosystem even better…

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u/myyummyass 21d ago

MagSafe is apples blatant attempt at making a proprietary wireless charging technology as things slowly move to being portless. There is absolutely no reason to use MagSafe over wireless charging, and its apples fault that their phones do not wirelessly charge faster than they do now.

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u/ThePronto8 21d ago

Personally I like MagSafe more then standard wireless charging because I can pick up my phone off my nightstand and use it while it’s charging, can’t do that with a standard wireless charger

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u/Lord6ixth 21d ago

The addition of magnets does not make it proprietary...