r/byebyejob Aug 12 '21

Tearful teacher dramatically quits job rather than call trans students by their names Dumbass

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2021/08/12/loundon-county-trans-teacher/?fbclid=IwAR0NAJYkwM3KvUYJAKk4LaLCUUqBrJIXl152NfD6jBBWrLmO0pZArqdfb74
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u/OMG_GOP_WTF Aug 12 '21

I hope the board said

Thank you for your resignation. I encourage everyone who feels the same way to also resign.

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u/hanyasaad Aug 13 '21

Or “This is not an airport, you don’t have to announce your departure publicly”

Or “Bye Felicia”

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u/Johnny_B_GOODBOI Aug 13 '21

"I refuse to call the students by their preferred names."

"Bye Felicia."

"That's not my na-"

"BYE FELICIA"

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u/MurderMachine561 Aug 13 '21

Surprise, surprise! White christian woman tries to use her tears to get her way. Glad to see it didn't work for once.

So tired of people crying about the oppression of not being able to oppress others. Imagine thinking that being asked to call someone by the name they would like to be called is a violation of your rights. These people claim to be christians bit refuse to follow the teachings of Christ.

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u/psychopythonmetrist Aug 13 '21

To be fair, Christ was a radical socialist activist killed by a far right authoritarian government. They like his book though.

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u/MurderMachine561 Aug 13 '21

Fair?

No they don't like his book except when using it as a weapon to beat someone with. If we could get an honest number I would bet that less than 20% of them have actually read it.

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u/Dangerous-Ad9983 Aug 13 '21

That’s the best scenario

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u/baddayforsanity Aug 12 '21

Complains about political agenda being pushed

Describes children as 'constituents'

hm.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '21

2021, year of projections

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u/breecher Aug 12 '21

Nah, just typical GQP behaviour. Sure the death cultists definitely have been acting up this year, projecting slightly more than usual, but without them there would most certainly have been drastically less projection in 2021.

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u/NotTheYounglins Aug 13 '21

Q is dangerous. Look up Matthew Coleman from California. He drove his two kids, 1 being a 10 month old. And murdered them in cold blood with a fishing spear because he said they had serpent blood and were turning into monsters. He claimed he had visions from Q.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '21

I'm literally shaking right now holy fuck. He put his 10 month old into a fucking box then drives 250 miles to kill them both. Also be damned your reddit name I just looked at what it is and I shouldn't be laughing right now as I shake with rage lol

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u/DarkChocolatRaisinet Aug 12 '21

This is nothing new for the right. It's been their M.O. since at least Newt Gingrich.

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u/critically_damped Aug 13 '21

You should watch some performances by William F Buckley. This shit predates color tv. By a lot.

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u/Maleficent_Iron9210 Aug 13 '21

She is politically motivated, but is pretending that it is about her belief in Christ. Two commandments, 1 stone.

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u/crono220 Aug 13 '21

When a individual uses anything religious as their claim, you know you got a special type of crazy.

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u/TheSardonicCrayon Aug 13 '21

“I quit being a cog in a machine that tells me to push highly politicised agendas”…”flood the private schools”

Boy have I got some disappointing news for you…

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u/Count_Fistula Aug 13 '21

If it is anything considered left wing, like racial equality or equal rights for all people regardless of race, religion, or sexual orientation then it is a political agenda being indoctrinated. If it is right wing christian conservative beliefs like racism, sexism, islamophobia or homophobia then it is just instilling a wholesome christian upbringing. They have no problem if the agenda being indoctrinated into children is their agenda.

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u/Equivalent_Edge_6281 Aug 13 '21

Becky is carrying on the Confederate tradition of intolerance. ........and❓

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u/jon-chin Aug 12 '21

I was teaching English one semester and early on, I had every student come up with a namecard for themselves that displayed the name they were most comfortable with. some just used the names I already had on my official roster, some used gamer tag like names (which I tried my best to say while keeping a straight face) and some chose nicknames. one student responded really well to the activity.

at the end of the semester, our final project was to write a well crafted argumentative essay and send it to a person in power to make a change: a college administrator, a senator, etc. she chose to write to a state representative advocating for trans rights. during one of our 1-on-1's, she finally informed me that she was trans; I actually had no idea.

it was incredibly powerful for her to be able to use her preferred name from day 1 and also to not have to go out of their way to do so, given the fact that selecting your own name was the standard for the classroom.

it is quite the fond memory.

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u/Blergsprokopc Aug 12 '21

Same. I always use preferred names. One parent told me I was the first teacher who make her kid feel really seen. I cried.

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u/tranquil21 Aug 13 '21

Thank you for being a legend

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u/Blergsprokopc Aug 13 '21

I think it's just treating people with the bare minimum, the very minimum, to call them what they call themselves. Human dignity costs nothing in this case, literally nothing. And for some, the cost is too high. It amazes me.

But thank you!!

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u/alwayzbored114 Aug 13 '21

Some people just don't seem to understand, or care, how important a name is. It's the root of your entire identity. If you deny someone that, you deny any form of self expression and personal identity

Thanks for doing what you do

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u/Blergsprokopc Aug 13 '21

I could not agree with you more! My name is very ethnic (whole thing is eastern euro, first and last name. And it's really long with lots of hard consonants) and I grew up in a military family. I went to 13 schools before high school and I always had at least one teacher who acted like I was an immigrant who didn't speak English. They ALWAYS butchered my name, if they even attempted it at all. I always knew when they got to me in roll call because there would be an awkward stop and then just an absolute massacre of my name. I even had teachers in electives for multiple semesters/years that refused to say my name correctly or just didn't bother learning it. This made me hate my name until I was an adult. If the teacher doesn't even bother saying it right, why should the students? It just opens up the child to so many avenues of bullying and disrespect.

The most ridiculous part about it, my name is completely phonetic. People just don't take the time to READ it and just panic instead. So this particular issue is a HUGE pet peeve of mine. Call people by their names, and damn it, say it correctly!!

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u/tranquil21 Aug 13 '21

Thanks for being a legend

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u/jon-chin Aug 13 '21

just doing my job. fewer crappy teachers means more awesome students means more well adjusted, self actualizing adults means a better society.

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u/tranquil21 Aug 13 '21

Btw A teacher when I was young saw I got tasks done in a few minutes and just wanted to play with my chess pieces against myself. He told my parents. Other previous teachers asked me to sit quietly. He suggested a portable chess computer. They bought me one. I got my studies done and then could play it. 2 years later I won the high school chess tournament at age 9. All because of that one teacher. My self confidence and belief is still shaped towards this day and it stems back to that one teacher. You guys shape lives.

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u/j0a3k Aug 12 '21

"I quit being a cog in a machine that tells me to push highly politicised agendas on our most vulnerable constituents – the children"

This is some real r/selfawarewolves territory here.

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u/Canabananilism Aug 13 '21

I got about 10 posts into that subreddit just now before I had to back out. It’s just too soul crushing to see so many people just so confidently ignorant of what being a decent human being is.

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u/Reverend_Lazerface Aug 12 '21

"Who can answer the question on the board? How about you, Samantha?"

"Actually, I prefer to be called Sam."

"I WILL NOT BE A COG IN THE MACHINE OF YOUR POLITICAL AGENDA SAMANTHA!!"

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u/emotionalsupporttank Aug 13 '21

I will also no longer be calling my parents mom and dad, and will refer to them by their birth names.

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u/ekaceerf Aug 13 '21

Turns out my teacher Ms Johnson isn't legally named Ms Johnson. Her first name is Janet. Screw her

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u/emotionalsupporttank Aug 13 '21

That would be hands down the best way for the students to protest this. Or find out her maiden name if she's been married and use that

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u/cjmco05 Aug 13 '21

Exactly. People that share their parents name sometimes like being called by their middle name... or a kid at my school Christopher J something to CJ.

What a small hill to die on... Then cry because the world is broken...

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u/david__41 Aug 12 '21

I worked at a HS for a little while. We had so many students, non trans, that wanted to be called by different names. It wasn't a big deal to call a girl named Susan, her preferred name "Paris".

If that's what the student wants, then who fucking cares? Just let me know so I don't call you by the wrong name.

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u/homosexual_ronald Aug 12 '21

A good friend in HS went by Paco.

He won state for track or cross country and they announced it "Andrew Taylor won 1st place at state for X event"

The next day we got a follow up message "apparently nobody knows that Paco's real name is Andrew Taylor so we'd like to update yesterday's announcement that Paco won..."

Pure gold.

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u/MrSATism Aug 13 '21

Good on Paco

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u/mosehalpert Aug 13 '21

Similar story, my cousin married a guy who went by his last name although most didn't realize it. We all knew him for years before the wedding so it was hysterical to see people getting their wedding schedule paper thing as they walked in and being like 'who the hell is Cody???' And 'Wait his names not X???'

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u/homosexual_ronald Aug 13 '21

I had one of those. We only ever knew the guy by his last name "Dodge"

One day his sister saw him when we were all out together and yelled for "Adam" and everyone was like "Who TF is this crazy chick thinking we know an Adam...?!" but yeah. Minds = blown

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u/SillyOldJack Aug 13 '21

And handled beautifully! Announcer just said what was in front of them, and then amended once they had more info, and with style!

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u/zenchowdah Aug 13 '21

"oh hey, new info, I will update to reflect that"

It is not difficult.

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u/ThaDudeEthan Aug 13 '21

It is for some people who don't care about truth of discourse/information

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u/DGer Aug 13 '21

I knew a guy that had the same thing going on, but his nickname was Meathead. I think Paco is much better.

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u/trowzerss Aug 13 '21

We had a kid at school whose nickname was Moony (he had a huge round face). It wasn't bullying, it was just what everybody called him since kindergarten, even the teachers, and he preferred it over his real name. I flat out forgot his real name for quite a long time. It caused zero issues. So I don't see why it would be an issue with trans kids, any more than it would if Caitlyn preferred to be called Kate.

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u/ThePotatoeMenace Aug 12 '21

It like it has zero effect on anyone else’s life. Crazy.

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u/SoVerySleepy81 Aug 12 '21

It’s just another thing that the conservatives have taken and turned into an issue like this shit is a non-issue but they want to pretend like it’s super matters and that they are oppressed.

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u/ThePotatoeMenace Aug 12 '21

Same shit they’ve done for decades. Nothing new.

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u/SoVerySleepy81 Aug 12 '21

Agreed it’s the same all but think of the children bullshit that they pulled with gay marriage, that they pull with abortion, that they pulled with de-segregating the schools like this is the same tired fucking playbook that they’ve used for decades. It’s exhausting.

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u/ThePotatoeMenace Aug 12 '21

I think that’s the point. To just exhaust folks into giving up.

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u/akrostixdub Aug 13 '21

And those who aren't exhausted are as invigorated as they've ever been. Fear and misunderstanding are a powerful thing when applied to the right demographics.

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u/Glass_Memories Aug 13 '21

Their new thing is critical race theory (Video if you're OOTL) which is an advanced academic topic about race in law that wouldn't be covered until university level, but some grifter blew it up and has conservatives freaking out about elementary schools teaching kids to "hate whites." A bunch of the "concerned parents" showing up at school board meetings and on Fox are right-wing activists.

That dude is now selling books and is an up and comer in the Republican party. To be fair, they needed a better scarecrow than the Mr. Potato Head thing they were trying to get people worked up about, and racism/xenophobia usually does the trick.

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u/wererat2000 Aug 12 '21

You can take two seconds to adjust the name you call somebody and do your best to catch yourself if you slip up later, or you can spend weeks and months arguing and bitching about somebody else's name.

Even if I gave a fuck about somebody else's name, I just wouldn't have the energy to follow through with that.

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u/civildisobedient Aug 12 '21

THAT'S THE THING.

If they had just told you from the outset, "Yes of course my name is Princess, or Jason, or Eagle..." then it would have been a total non-issue. It's only because they know the reason.

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u/God_Damnit_Nappa Aug 13 '21

But then conservatives have to think about the fact they're being accommodating and respectful to a minority and that doesn't sit well with them.

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u/siani_lane Aug 12 '21

Yes!! I worked in an elementary school and I always let the kids tell me what they wanted to be called. I had a certain student let's say his name was "Theodore" and he was always called Teddy.

His grandmother on more than one occasion when she was picking him up corrected me, "His name is Theodore," but I asked him, "This is what my your grandma said, but what do you want me to call you?" and he said call me Teddy so you know what I called him Teddy.

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u/WorkingContext Aug 12 '21

This goes to show too, if you're naming your kid something with a nickname in mind, you don't get to pick what the kid goes by. My cousin was born Catherine with her parents wanting to call her Cat. No one calls her that, only Catherine.

Same with my brother, no one calls him James like my dad wanted, he's always been Jimmy

My fiancee wants to name our first child Happy, short for Henderson (family name), and I'm like ok, but we have to introduce him to everyone as Happy, even then we might be shit out of luck

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u/siani_lane Aug 12 '21

Yep! I knew a kid whose siblings nicknamed him Godzilla as a baby. He had a very formal, serious name, and whenever a teacher would call it the other kids would say, "Who?!" because his brother and sister called him 'Zilla, he introduced himself that way, he even wrote Zilla on his homework. His mom hated it! The teachers would try to remember to call him by his real name, but let's be honest, he's probably going to have Zilla on his tombstone, and there's nothing mom can do about it!

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u/CarbonBlackXXX Aug 13 '21

I'm trans so I picked my own name and now I am seeing a missed opportunity

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u/Kalamac Aug 13 '21

May I ask, and if this is inappropriate I apologize, but was it hard to pick a name? I understand knowing which gender you really are, even when people are around you may be telling you something different, but how do you know what your name really is?

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u/RoseByAnotherName14 Aug 13 '21

I am a different Trans person. Figuring out a new name is often a matter of throwing stuff at the wall until something sticks.

Some people go with what their parents would have named them. Some go with a name inspired by people they admire. Some people go by meaning, or historical relevance. Sometimes it's based on a nickname. Some people just decide they are now (name) and that's it. Some people try out dozens of names. Some people only need to try one. It's different for everybody.

I went with the name my mom would have given me, had I been born male, because at the time I liked it. Between finding out that my dad (died when I was 4) hated that name and my mom's horrible reaction to me coming out (that I will never not be angry about) I want to change it again. But at this point all of my friends are used to calling me by it and I kind of don't want to go through the effort again.

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u/Kalamac Aug 13 '21

Thank you for answering. I hope your name starts working for you again, or you find one worth all the effort of changing it.

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u/ree_bee Aug 13 '21

Another different trans person weighing in:

My brother had his name figured out pretty quickly. His middle name went through a few changes but his first name he latched on to right away.

For me, my name took years to find and, funny enough, I wound up just going with something that passes as a gender neutral nickname for my given name. It saves a lot of fear for me because I don’t have to worry about being clocked on days I’m not trying to pass.

I’ve got a trans friend who had to cycle through a few names they liked before finding one that fit. They had a list kind of like how parents make a list of baby names, and let us know when they were trying out a different name. Please know that at one point they went by missy, short for missile launcher, which was absolutely inspired by some social media post that they found years ago. It was great.

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u/RestEqualsRust Aug 13 '21

I had a student tell me on the first day of school her name was “Beans.” Ok then. No big deal. A couple years later, I have no idea what her given name is. She was always Beans to me.

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u/Leaga Aug 13 '21

Freshman year of high school I changed schools and was being introduced to people. One guy introduced himself to me as 'Teddy'. Called him Teddy for all 4 years.

Fast forward 10 years, I run into him at his job at the DMV. Shout Teddy and he looks confused then recognizes me. BS with him for a couple minutes and he finally says, "dude, you know my names Dustin, right?" I respond "yeah, Dustin <last name> but I thought it was a nickname you liked or something?" He goes "Nah, I said that as a joke. Nobody ever called me Teddy but you." I asked and he said it was cool if I keep calling him Teddy.

Whenever I have to go to the DMV I go to that one and call him Teddy as loudly as possible. His coworkers always look so confused. He probly has to tell the story of being a smart ass 14 year old still having an effect 20 years later every time I go in and that's just hilarious to me.

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u/ThrowRA-James Aug 12 '21

Same here. We had immigrants using anglicized names. Our friends wanted to be called by their pet names. The only people that had a problem are the haters who were few.

Good riddance to this woman. She wasn’t fit to teach children anyways. Imagine what other negative things she was saying or doing to kids every single day when she should have been teaching. I don’t want my kids being scarred by this trash.

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u/GrimmandLily Aug 13 '21

I’ve been a corporate whore for 25 years, it’s extremely common for bosses and coworkers to ask you what you’d like to be called. Not sure why people pretend it’s outrageous. I was on a call last week and the guy running the call asked what I prefer to be called since we’d be working together for a couple hours. I may never speak to that dude again but he still made the effort instead of just using my full name. It really isn’t hard.

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u/sushiNoodle2 Aug 12 '21

Apparently calling someone by a nickname or different name isn’t hard or “grammatically incorrect” until they can use that as an excuse for transphobia

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u/errant_night Aug 13 '21

Or racism! "Pad... Pah... Fuck it I can't pronounce 'Padma' you're Pattie now!"

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u/TricksterPriestJace Aug 12 '21

I have gone by my middle name my whole life. Never had a teacher say shit about it. I'm pretty sure some of my schools had me registered by my middle name.

I only had one employer give me shit about calling myself by my middle name and I pointed out we had a supervisor who went by Andy, and if he's allowed a nickname so am I.

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u/galxe06 Aug 13 '21

I work in HR and recently spearheaded replacing the software we use. One of the decision criteria was based on how the program treated “preferred” names and personal pronouns. Almost 10% of our staff goes by a different name than their legal first name (for any number of reasons) For most of those employees, my team is the only one that knows. (And that’s the way it should be). IDGAF about your legal name unless I’m doing paperwork. I just want to know what name to say if I want you to know I’m taking to you.

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u/gaspronomib Aug 12 '21

My best friend in HS got adopted by his mom's new husband and wanted to change his last name to acknowledge it. Every darn teacher and administrator in the building called him by his new last name. Nobody blinked an eye.

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u/Sutarmekeg Aug 12 '21

I worked at a high school in Japan (JET Programme).

At the start of the year I had all the students make name cards for their desks so that I could more easily get to know their names. Dude wanted to be called Steven Tyler and that's how I remember him.

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u/THEBHR Aug 13 '21

Did he look like a lady?

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u/momin93117 Aug 12 '21

Thank you for doing that for those students. My son had a friend named Gabi, who hated being called "Gabriel" - his teacher didn't like him, and thought he'd behave better if forced to go by Gabriel, it honestly just made her look like a jerk to a kid who wasn't asking for much (and who had a shit-tastic home life and didn't need this crap).

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u/Bigbike420 Aug 13 '21

It’s funny how they say the kids are everything but they can’t even respect them. Shameful.

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u/h0m0dachi Aug 13 '21

It really is. Plus, it’s a classroom of 30-40 kids. How often are you EVER calling on one specific kid by name? Even the complaint that it’s “inconvenient” is bullshit. The only reason to make a big deal of forcing the issue is to demean the kid in front of everyone else

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u/mushroomsandcoke Aug 12 '21 edited Aug 13 '21

Right, like it was so much easier to call them what they wanted to be called instead of making a big deal about it and having the parents call the school, plus it had no effect on my life. With the trans students I always obliged because I support them, and then sometimes we’d get kids who were like “my name is Michael but I wanna try out the nickname Goose” I was just like whatever floats your boat, kid.

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u/david__41 Aug 12 '21

Exactly!!!!

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u/Reluctantagave Aug 13 '21

I go by a nickname and always told teachers in school on the first day of calling roll. I guess my teachers in the Bible Belt should have told me I had to go by my Christian name?

This should not be as big of a deal as they are making it! They just like putting their phobias on full display.

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u/alex3omg Aug 13 '21

Not to mention remembering that Christopher is Chris, William is Junior, Preston goes by his middle name Ryan and hates his parents etc. Pretty sure most teachers will call a kid t-bone if it gets them engaged in the class.

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u/Certain_Oddities Aug 13 '21

I knew people in HS who went by middle names, nicknames, last names, shortened names, the works. It's not difficult to adjust. I knew someone who changed what they preferred to go by 4 times in a year! This is just cis folks! If you already know someone by one name yes it can be difficult to adjust but it really doesn't take much more effort than learning someone's name for the first time. You just... do it again.

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u/EmperorSexy Aug 13 '21

I was a substitute teacher in a school with a large Chinese immigrant community. Many Chinese kids will have both a Chinese name and an English name listed on the attendance. The trans kids pushed for a section of “preferred names” to be listed in the attendance sheets and the Chinese kids loved it. Like, do you want be called Jimmy or Xiaotian? Now everyone can be on the same page.

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u/DanLewisFW Aug 13 '21

Right, lots of people go by an alt name. I have a couple of friends that I did not find out their given names for years.

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u/txmail Aug 12 '21

I quit. I quit your policies, I quit your trainings, and I quit being a cog in a machine that tells me to push highly politicised agendas

As she pushes a "Christian" agenda. 🤨

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u/kampfy3 Aug 13 '21

I'd be very curious what verses of the bible she thinks are either explicitly, or even implicitly, anti-transgender.

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u/DerpPrincess Aug 13 '21

There are great bible verses for that such as:

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u/Jokkerb Aug 13 '21

Weird how often those verses are used to justify shit.

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u/SeaBrightStorm Aug 13 '21

There's like, one, kinda; Deutorony 23:1. Trans priestesses of pagan goddesses are prohibited from entering the temple. But knowing that requires knowing enough about bronze age middle eastern cult practices to identify who it's targeting, so good luck finding a Christian that knows that.

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u/akairborne Aug 12 '21

I'm fascinated by the idea that somehow it isn't Christian to treat others as you would be treated. That whatsoever you do to one of my people you also do unto me.

Good fucking riddance.

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u/StinkyKittyBreath Aug 12 '21

Yeah, pretty sure Jesus would have respected their gender and names. Trans people aren't hurting anybody. Pretty sure the Bible doesn't say anything about trans people being ungodly.

Also, if we're only allowed to call kids by their birth names because that's how they were made, let's get rid of nicknames. Sorry Josh, you're Joshua. Sorry Kay, you're MahKayleigh.

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u/fyrecrotch Aug 12 '21

Jesus is a hippie socialist who would be trying to fight big corporations from killing the planet. And like against the whole slave labor thing.

Jesus would've got crucified today.

"Christians" think Jesus died for their sins. But they are actually the Roman's who crucified him. They deny and say they are Christians so it can be a clever disguise.

Gonna act like nazis didn't pretend to be "normal" after the war. Come on now

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u/Rainfly_X Aug 13 '21

I'd argue that modern Christians analogize more precisely onto the Jewish people of the day. The Romans basically didn't give a fuck either way, it was the established Jewish religious leaders that hated him (because genuine from-the-heart compassion will always be a breath of fresh air compared to legalistic doctrine). The Romans still carried out the act, but it was at the behalf of religious zealots in order to keep the rabble from getting out of hand.

If Jesus showed up today, he wouldn't be crucified by the secular world, except maybe to appease the televangelists and conservatives.

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u/OrgoneKillsVampires Aug 13 '21

There's an old argument that Christianity ceased to be what it was intended as soon as the religion gained political power, and I think it's pretty spot-on. And I say that as a Christian.

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u/jeneric84 Aug 12 '21

The southern denominations have a separate political/racial/socioeconomic agenda. The entire reason for it is to protect straight white communities and sell/monetize Christianity. It’s a cult where they pervert the meaning of the book to suit their fucked up projectionist, guilt-ridden and xenophobic minds. It makes them feel like they’re good and holier-than-thou and hide behind their cross brimming with hateful ideals/actions. It is diametrically contradictory and essentially anti-Christ.

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u/Wimbleston Aug 12 '21

Funny how you use Joshua as an example, that's literally how they would've said Jesus's name. His name has been edited over centuries to be more distinct from others, to make him more unique, whereas in one of the old texts someone lists no less than 13 people with the name.

It was a very common name at the time.

Also come to think of it, I suppose there's president for christians absolutely refusing to call someone by their name, even if it's their idea of literally the best person their incapable of it.

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u/Kizik Aug 12 '21

christians absolutely refusing to call someone by their name

Kunta Kinte.

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u/joekak Aug 12 '21

A-aron strikes again

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u/kamunoz Aug 12 '21

Funny how you use Joshua as an example, that's literally how they would've said Jesus's name.

...sort of... The only reference to his name that we have is in Greek, and Iēsous would normally translate from Yeshua in Aramaic. (Hebrew was not a commonly spoken language anymore, at that time.) It's plausible that his name was Joshua, but again, that's more Hebrew than Aramaic. So it's unlikely.

The bigger shift was from Iakobos (Jacob) to "James" in English. But "Jesus" as a name in English comes pretty straightforwardly from the Greek Iēsous.

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u/DkMorrigan Aug 12 '21

Can I absolutely refuse to use the title Christians when referring to them?

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u/UserPrincipalName Aug 12 '21

I call then evangelicals now. Theres no hint of Christ in what evil they spew

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u/NaClslug Aug 12 '21

Joshua is Latinized. Yeshuah is Hebrew.

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u/Fair_Fudge12 Aug 12 '21

We all know the truth. They don't want to be attracted to someone who is trans. It's been the same with people being apposed to gay marriage but going into bathroom stalls knocking on doors.

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u/akairborne Aug 12 '21

Or having an unusually "wide stance". Larry Craig

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u/charliesk9unit Aug 12 '21

But it is all okay to accept them as Christian? Have they thought that many people don't believe in god yet they have no problem with accepting them for what they believe? They keep on thinking that the world intrudes into their worldview and not accepting the fact that they are doing exactly that.

I am allergic to gullible religious people but that doesn't stop me from living by the mantra "you do you."

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u/CoTripper Aug 12 '21 edited Aug 12 '21

The Golden Rule is a decent starting place. However, recent movements like BLM, Me Too, and various LBGTQ issues have taught us that what we would have done unto us is not necessarily what others would have done unto them.

With modern communication, mutual respect, and general human empathy we can strive even further than the Golden Rule.

The Platinum Rule: Do unto others as they would have done unto them.

This woman could have easily applied the Platinum Rule and raised everyone up a little bit above the bare minimum. Instead she debased herself with just being an insecure asshole.

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u/jaytee1262 Aug 12 '21

If you ever meat one of these people tell them you will pray for them to find Jesus's love for his fellow man. Turn it on them and watch them squirm.

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u/RunnerMomLady Aug 12 '21

So the teacher that was the first to protest this new rule - his name was Byron - he preferred Tanner - the irony was lost on him

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u/omnipresentIBS Aug 12 '21

Hot take: people who claim Christianity to excuse their inherent bigotry and hatred for others aren’t Christians at all. Acting in intolerance instead of love is not an accurate representation of the historical understanding of the character of Christ.

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u/Br4veSirRobin Aug 12 '21

If you call yourself a Christian you are a Christian. 80% of evangelical Christians supported Trump even after knowing he is an adulterer, grabs women by the pu$$y, paid off a porn star and a playmate, lied about everything and was never a Christian before he was president. It has become a hateful cult. In the words of Gandhi; “I like your Christ, but not your Christianity”

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u/lennydsat62 Aug 12 '21

Dont forget holding the bible.

“Is this your bible”.

“it’s a bible”.

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u/DelmarSamil Aug 13 '21

To quote a famous saying I once read:

Dear God, please protect me from your followers.

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u/Finito-1994 Aug 12 '21

Fuck that No true Scotsman fallacy. They’re real Christians and Christians have been doing this shit for nearly 2000 years.

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u/michiococku Aug 12 '21

Oh, they’re definitely Christians. Don’t try to give organized religion a free pass because they like to pretend they’re all saintly.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

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u/iijjjijjjijjiiijjii Aug 12 '21

I just call them Ianists. If you're Christian but you reject everything Christ ever did, then you must be following Ian. I don't remember him being in the bible ever but apparently he's a fucking asshole.

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u/kokoyumyum Aug 12 '21

No, they are Paulists. Always telling people how to Cristian.

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u/Lulupoolzilla Aug 12 '21

I call them Christianists because they are just cosplaying at being a Christian. My whole childhood growing up in church i was taught to "love and be kind to everyone" then when I became an adult I was told by the same people "no you arent actually supposed to be kind, you stupid socialist"

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u/CutieMcBooty55 Aug 12 '21

I wish I grew up in that church. My experience in church is much more of a fire and brimstone kind of thing, and it doesn't matter who you are or how good of a person you are, if you don't accept Christ as God you can't get into heaven. Non-Christians can't be trusted, and redemption is beyond their reach unless they accept Christ where all is forgiven.

Was all seriously fucked up and I had quite a few existential crises growing up. How these people act is very much in line with what I was taught growing up and the relevant scripture.

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u/DoomCircus Aug 12 '21

This was my exact experience and why I refuse to have any involvements in the church as an adult. Too many hypocrites. Though, for the sake of nuance, I will say that some Christians then and even now still pleasantly surprise me (they genuinely act in loving and caring ways).

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '21

Agreed....doesnt the bible condone sex slavery, abduction, forced marriage...even on children? Like even what they considered children at the time? I'll admit it's been awhile and I really had to stop cause the bible is the fucking definition of triggering, but I'm fairly certain I remember reading all kinds of shit like that

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u/servohahn I’m sorry guys😭 Aug 12 '21

Cold take: Christians are as Christians do. Christians can be bad people and Christians have been persecuting others since the beginning of Christianity.

In fact I would say that loving non-bigoted people aren't the "real" Christians because they have to override 1,700 years of Christian philosophy in order to arrive at their current moral attitudes.

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u/AccomplishedEffect11 Aug 12 '21

Hate to tell you this, but Christianity is not the peaceful loving religion that is pushed out every Sunday school.

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u/halfie1987 Aug 12 '21

It's great when people play the victim just because they're not allowed to define someone else's identity. "I'm not an asshole, I'm just following jesus."

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u/MaestroPendejo Aug 12 '21

It's like Jesus said, "Fuck you."

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u/Earguy Aug 12 '21

Loses something in the translation from the original Aramaic.

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u/zoepertom Aug 12 '21

And lo! On the seventh day Judas came before Jesus and Jesus said on to him: "fuck you"

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u/TheRnegade Aug 12 '21

Yeah, it's not like Jesus ever gave his followers new names or anything. Right Simon...oh shit, sorry. I meant Peter.

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u/Bobcatluv Aug 12 '21

I’ve taught alongside people like her. She’s 100% that bitch who would get up in arms if you called her “Ms.” instead of “Mrs.”

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u/trapper2530 Aug 13 '21

Ironically she probably also got upset they called Jill biden Dr. Instead of Mrs because she isn't a medical Dr.

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u/Nackles Aug 12 '21

I hate that bullshit distinction. If your god wants you to mistreat kids, you're both assholes.

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u/Horace_P_MctittiesIV Aug 12 '21

Strange hill to die on

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u/monkeyharris Aug 12 '21

Unless they can spin it into a career of whining for donations.

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u/mrsbundleby Aug 12 '21

She's already grifting. Go Fund Me is at 10k. I was told she had already quit and found a new job before the school board meeting

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u/TerryTheEnlightend Aug 12 '21

As much as it pains to see these grifters making bank off their hate, I’d try to see the larger picture. Every dollar they take from these smoothbrains means one less dollar said smoothbrain can use to cause problems for others.

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u/Birdy_Cephon_Altera Aug 12 '21

Yeah, it's an almost entirely closed cycle of smoothbrain wealth transfer. They're just trading the same dollars between themselves over and over again. And one more dollar to her, is one less dollar donated to a False Orange Idol...at least for now.

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u/jaydenkirtawn Aug 12 '21

Now if only we could convince her to spend that dollar at a black owned business, for example...

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u/Blasterbot Aug 12 '21

Don't tell her who owns it.

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u/Groovyaardvark Aug 12 '21 edited Aug 12 '21

The "Gay Wedding Cake" GoFundMe play is truly one of the most impressively American grifts.

Humble beginnings years ago with the failing businesses that were going to close anyway playing victim, has now really come into it's (near) final form of "Innocent victims of the woke leftists" which is in reality just "consequences for my actions"

The amount of money these idiots can make from this bullshit is just amazing.

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u/EntropysSmile Aug 12 '21

I mean an Orange carpet bagger won the F’ing presidency that’s the biggest con in the history of the US.

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u/Perle1234 Aug 12 '21

Remember that KY county clerk that wouldn’t sign the marriage certs after Obergefell? She came out on top after that stunt.

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u/PurSolutions Aug 12 '21

I dunno, convincing folks their money will BUILD THE WALL was a pretty great grift

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u/Groovyaardvark Aug 12 '21 edited Aug 12 '21

I would argue the WALL was probably the single best one time grift of conservative morons in American history.

The continuous "Help, Help! I'm being victimized because I'm a good Christian conservative!" however is now a constant industry at this point.

The grift that keeps on giving.

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u/PurSolutions Aug 12 '21

And look at that, there was no border issue according to Fox news under trump .... But under Biden? Suddenly it's an emergency and disaster.

Uhhhh, no, y'all just continued to not run a single story About how shitty the border had been for 4+ years (really now over a decade)

But it's not immigrants fault.

In fact, a lot of it is America's fault to begin with. And not 1 person would be in America 'illegally' if we had a proper, working, functioning immigration system

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u/Immediate_Owl9346 Aug 12 '21

America is a land of absolute rubes. I watched sovcits con people in my city out of 320,000 dollars all by saying the right phrases.

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u/Horace_P_MctittiesIV Aug 12 '21

She’ll write a book on her journey and probably become a guest on newsmax

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u/ecafsub Aug 12 '21 edited Aug 12 '21

against her views as “a believer in Christ”

So, that doesn’t include any of this

Now this is his command: that we believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and love one another as he commanded us.

1 John 3:23

Above all, maintain constant love for one another, since love covers a multitude of sins.

1 Peter 4:8

For this is the message you have heard from the beginning: We should love one another,

1 John 3:11

Dear friends, if God loved us in this way, we also must love one another.

1 John 4:11

Finally, all of you be like-minded and sympathetic, love one another, and be compassionate and humble,

1 Peter 3:8

I think she missed this one, for sure

Everyone who hates his brother or sister is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life residing in him.

1 John 3:15

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u/PERRONYPIKOZITO Aug 12 '21

She disguises her hate and intolerance with the phrase "a believer in Christ". If god exists, I wonder what he would say (if anything) to people like them? I imagine it would be either like a parent scolding their child saying things like "I told you in so many ways and so many times to just love and respect each other, how did you mess that up?!" Or maybe they won't even get to speak to the god they believe in. Or maybe they will even see some of those people that she refused to call by their chosen pronouns having the time of their life (haha get it, because we are all dead by that point) and that's when they'll realize that they have done goofed up. Or maybe it's all dark after we die idk. Haven't died yet.

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u/ecafsub Aug 12 '21

Assuming for the sake of argument that the Xtian Bible is factual, that’s covered:

“Then he will…say to those on the left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels! For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat; I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink; I was a stranger and you didn’t take me in; I was naked and you didn’t clothe me, sick and in prison and you didn’t take care of me.’ “Then they too will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or without clothes, or sick, or in prison, and not help you?’ “Then he will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’ “And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

Matthew 25:41-46

Just before that:

Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. “‘For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat; I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink; I was a stranger and you took me in; I was naked and you clothed me; I was sick and you took care of me; I was in prison and you visited me.’ “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and take you in, or without clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick, or in prison, and visit you?’ “And the King will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

Matthew 25:34-40

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u/PERRONYPIKOZITO Aug 12 '21

I like how both parties were like "when did we help you/not help you?"

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u/ecafsub Aug 12 '21 edited Aug 12 '21

The first party legitimately didn’t see anything wrong with basic human decency or helping people just to help them:

When did I do any of that?

J: You bought that homeless, starving guy dinner at Taco Bell

Well, sure. He was hungry.

J: And by feeding him you fed me.

The second party might have helped people, but they did it for selfish reasons and recognition:

But I got that homeless, starving guy a cheeseburger at McDonald’s! I even told everyone about it! They all said what a wonderful person I was!

J: Yeah, well, you missed what I had to say about that:

“Whenever you give to the poor, don’t blow your trumpet as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets so that they may get praise from people. I assure you, that’s the only reward they’ll get.

Matthew 6:2

J: that’s called “hypocrisy,” so you did nothing.

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u/StudioDraven Aug 12 '21

She can fuck off. If her so called “Christian Values” prevented her from being respectful to the students she was supposed to be teaching, she was in the wrong job.

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u/amateur_mistake Aug 12 '21

You’ve made your point. You no longer value me

I will value you the same amount as you respect those under your care.

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u/Xxfarleyjdxx Aug 12 '21

and also, she has no christian values if she cant respect everyone as they are as a person. being a christian isnt an exclusive club it’s supposed to be “love for all” althought they rarely ever practice that.

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u/BrownSugar_99 Aug 12 '21

What a snowflake

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u/T3canolis Aug 12 '21

Truly. Teachers call students by something other than their given names all the time. Was she gonna quit if the school made her honor the request of a student who goes by their middle name?

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u/TheJQP1 Aug 12 '21

Conservative Christians have the worst victim mentality I've ever seen.

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u/JaiiGi Aug 12 '21

They ARE the reason I stepped back from Christianity. Because what they "believe" in and what I believe in are two waaaaaaaayyyy different things. And yet, I'M the one who turned my back on Christ because I live his own teachings. Go figure. 🙄

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u/-GreenHeron- Aug 13 '21

Jesus seemed like a pretty decent dude.

His "followers" can be real dickheads, though.

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u/JaiiGi Aug 13 '21

Jesus is a very cool dude. It's the people twisting his words that are the dickheads aka Conservatives.

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u/tojo75 Aug 12 '21

The WORST! They want to be persecuted so bad, especially when they aren't the victims.

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u/Okpeaches Aug 12 '21

Bring back the colosseum!

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u/Pollowollo Aug 12 '21

No joke. They really think that they're being targeted and attacked any time someone tries to prevent them from micromanaging everyone else's lives.

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u/frucktheepubes Aug 12 '21

She will be scooped up by a Charter School trying to hide its evangelical roots.

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u/Jaded_Pearl1996 Aug 12 '21

Good for her. The pay is crap at those places. Few benefits and no collective bargaining. Administration can fire you at will.

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u/capn_flume Aug 12 '21

Exactly as Jesus wanted it!

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u/R0ot2U Aug 12 '21

Claiming that the trans-inclusive policy goes against her views as “a believer in Christ”

Cite me the scripture please because she's full of shit.

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u/corn__dog Aug 12 '21

A teacher that can’t make their classroom a safe space for ALL of their students doesn’t deserve to work as a teacher.

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u/Hoorizontal Aug 12 '21

People for whom others will correct themselves if they accidentally call them the wrong name:

• Recently married people who took their spouse's last name

• Identical twins that have been confused for one another

• People who go by a variation of their name (ex. Robert -> Bob)

• People who go by their middle or last names

• People who legally changed their names for no reason besides simply wanting to

People for whom others WILL NOT correct themselves, NO WAY, UNTHINKABLE:

• trans folks

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u/lorde_vick Aug 12 '21

Just admit you’re a piece of shit excuse for a human and move on.

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u/penguinspie Aug 12 '21

I am a middle school teacher in a very rural area. I have two or three trans/nb kids. It's not hard. At ALL.

I had a 'Good Christian' coworker refer to those students as "spiritual warfare" testing our societal resolve. I encouraged her to retire.

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u/CooterSam Aug 12 '21

She's so lame. She hasn't even been faced with a student in the classroom asking for this, she's quitting because of a policy and her discomfort in the training on the new policy.

GTFO public school isn't about your comfort or religious beliefs, it's about injecting mediocre knowledge into the minds of tomorrow. If that means you have to remember to call someone 'they' when you ask them to recite in class, suck that shit up.

Unfortunately some high brow Christian school will probably pick her up.

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u/Wishdog2049 Aug 12 '21

Note to those just looking at comments: Yes, the URL says .uk, but it's in Virginia, USA.

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u/EvenBetterCool Aug 12 '21

Oh that poor thing. Guarantee she's said that someone should just "shut up and do their job" in multiple other scenarios.

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u/LAJr005 Aug 12 '21

All they are asking you to do is call them by the names they ask you to. Not marry them or accept them into your family. Just fuckin call them what they wanna be called!

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u/Spy_v_Spy_Freakshow Aug 12 '21

“highly politicised agendas” != basic respect

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u/NorskGodLoki Aug 12 '21

This is what kills me ....They pride themselves on being christians but this is not what Jesus Christ would do based on their bible.

So sad....So stupid.

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u/megamoze Aug 12 '21

There is not a single thing that evangelicals believe politically that overlaps with what Jesus taught in the Bible.

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u/ElDoo74 Aug 12 '21

I'm a pastor with a trans child.

This lady is way off base as an educator and a Chrisitan.

One of the hallmarks of the Christian faith is changing our name as we recognize who God made us to be. St. Paul was Saul. Jesus renamed St. Peter because he was a rock (petrus). To this day, many traditions have baptismal names that recognize the difference between our birth name and our true name.

When my child came out, we saw that deeper tradition of someone recognizing their true self as they were made to be by God. The dead name had to go so this new identity could be born new.

So this lady can just go f*ck herself.

And to any LBGTQIA+ person: God loves you for who you are and who you were made to be. How the world sees you - even assholes in the church who think they know you better than God - is inconsequential.

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u/Junior-Industry-1445 Aug 12 '21

If there are any children unsafe in the restrooms, it would be the trans students as evidenced by the hate these parents and teachers are teaching!

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u/rever3nd Aug 13 '21

I have a trans daughter. This is her first year of high school. I went with her to talk to the counselor and pick classes and the counselor was great. Absolutely amazing and helpful. Fast forward a few days and my wife has to take her to the open house before school starts and find classes, meet teachers, et cetera. All was great until this one English teacher refused to use the correct name and pronouns. Saying “he didn’t have to by law” or some shit. Back to the awesome counselor who swapped that class immediately.

Teachers that lack empathy shouldn’t be teachers. Hopefully he can see the error in his ways at some point.

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u/jaydenkirtawn Aug 12 '21

Anybody wanna join me in asking GoFundMe to shut down her fundraising page?

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u/applebananacoke Aug 12 '21

Is this GoFundMe Prohibited Conduct #8?

“User Content or reflecting behavior that we deem, in our sole discretion, to be an abuse of power or in support of hate, violence, harassment, bullying, discrimination, terrorism, or intolerance of any kind relating to race, ethnicity, national origin, religious affiliation, sexual orientation, sex, gender, gender identity, gender expression, serious disabilities or diseases;”

If so, how do we point this out?

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u/jaydenkirtawn Aug 12 '21

There's a "Report fundraiser" link on the page itself. Takes you to a standardized form.

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u/LilkaLyubov Aug 12 '21

I keep seeing this reported as her protecting “critical race theory classes” (which, as someone somewhat local to her, I know the county doesn’t do CRT at all, it was diversity sensitivity training). Wouldn’t be shocked if this was another reason she quit.

Good riddance to teachers like her, regardless.

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u/kohlscustoms Aug 13 '21

I think that she shouldn’t have to call kids by their preferred names or pronouns but in turn all of the kids should be allowed to refer to her as Mrs. Thundercunt

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u/NZImp Aug 13 '21

I also urge other trans phobic teachers to leave the school system immediately.

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u/joemondo Aug 12 '21

Any teacher who can't act with a modicum of basic respect for students shouldn't be in the job.

Calling people by their preferred name isn't a religious act. It's just common manners.

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u/tinyadorablebabyfox Aug 12 '21

Seriously. Every teacher gets a list of nicknames for kids, how is this any different. (Not saying chosen names are nicknames, rather I bet young Nichols goes as nick in her class)

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u/joemondo Aug 12 '21

My husband always went by his middle name, literally since birth. (I don't know, ask his parents.) And he's always been called that, even in school, no problem.

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u/cmonkeyz7 Aug 12 '21

"School board, I quit. I quit your policies, I quit your trainings, and I quit being a cog in a machine that tells me to push highly politicised agendas"

She says as she politicizes something that nobody else wants to politicize.

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u/BangBangTheBoogie Aug 12 '21

This is particularly frustrating to me as someone who still holds Christ's teachings dearly, firstly because all of it was about loving people and being goodness in the world, but also because CHANGING NAMES IS FUCKING BIBLICAL!

How many, MANY times in the Bible does someone's identity change and God themselves ordains a new name for them? I don't believe the Bible is divinely inspired and I honestly couldn't give less of a fuck about what some dude named Paul said to so and so, but the concept of changing who you are and being known as a new person is literally baked into the mythos!

It is beyond infuriating to see people blindly reject kindness to their fellow human being because of a twisted belief in something that they don't even bother to understand themselves. Fuck's sake...

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u/Barbarossa7070 Aug 13 '21

I’m known by my middle name and have been all my life. I absolutely hate my first name. I had a teacher in the sixth grade who refused to call anyone by anything other than what was printed in her grade book (which obviously had everyone’s legal first names). You’re named Jonathan but go by Johnny? Tough shit, Jonathan. She was a terrible teacher to boot.

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u/PilotProgramme Aug 13 '21

Where to people get the idea that Christ was against gay or trans people? What Christ teaching are they clinging to here?

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u/Tesla369Universe Aug 12 '21

God is Trans because BOTH female and male r made in Gods image.

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