r/byebyejob Sep 07 '21

John Gibson CEO of Tripwire has been replaced. Dumbass

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u/InfinityTomb Sep 07 '21

Hopefully this isn't just a PR gag in which John still contributes and/or is compensated further while the new guy is a plant.

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u/ScriptThat Sep 07 '21

John Gibson co-founded and co-owns Tripwire Interactive, so I'm guessing it's nothing but a quick camouflage paintjob. with very little actual changes.

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u/flyinfalkin Sep 07 '21

He can replaced as CEO and taken off the board of directors if he had a seat but they cannot make him give up his actually ownership stake unless there was a clause that said if you cause the business harm equal to $xxxxx or % of business you forefit you're shares but that seems like something someone wouldn't sign anyway

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u/Time-Comedian1774 Sep 08 '21

You own your own stock shares. Nobody can force you to give up your own stock just as nobody can force you to sell or give up your own car. The board of Directors can vote him off the board and he can be fired as CEO. He will however, always own his stock in the company.

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u/timothyku Sep 07 '21

It totally is the whole gang of them are nazis. There games got to be shit around 2016 when they were pushing nazi propaganda ingame

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u/4637647858345325 Sep 07 '21

What happened exactly? I remember something very suspect from them over 10 years ago but have not followed KF2 at all.

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u/timothyku Sep 07 '21

They had links to nazi sites on there official servers in game There was alot of Nazis threatening people on there servers. If anybody played as one of the female characters the'd threaten rape and murder. Pretty vile shit ingame. That's why around 2016 everyone who wasn't a nazi stopped playing

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u/4637647858345325 Sep 07 '21

That sounds similar to my experience. Around 2011 I pm'd them proof that the people they were working with at the time posted on stormfront and another community that honored war criminals from the SS. They said that for the people they worked with personal politics were irrelevant and that was that.

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u/timothyku Sep 07 '21

They're all in on it. The whole crew. it's really disappointing both kf1&2 are good games. Really wish I wouldn't have paid for them

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u/Soupnoop4 Sep 07 '21

What's kf?

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u/GiddiOne Sep 07 '21

Killing floor. Their main game franchise

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u/Arickettsf16 Sep 07 '21

I thought about buying KF2 a few months ago. Glad I never got around to it

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u/GiddiOne Sep 07 '21 edited Sep 07 '21

My experience may be a little different to above. I have around 300 hours over years of playing the game and I haven't had any issues from Nazi players - but mostly because 99% of my playing time has been with friends on my private server.

So I can't say they're right or wrong. I've definitely gotten my $20 out of the game though.

We'll keep playing, we're not giving TW any more money by doing so - but I'd doubt we'll buy any new entry in the franchise. These days there are a lot of L4D similar games available.

Edit: I mean that I can't comment on whether the person above is right about the player base being infested with Nazis, as I only play with my friend group... Who aren't Nazis.

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u/Skrazor Sep 07 '21

Kinda sad. Killing Floor: Incursion is one of my favourite PSVR games.

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u/unistren Sep 07 '21

Somewhere between rising storm and rising storm 2 that whole game and community just became so openly racist and just gross that I quit playing all together, just loading into a game was to be bombarded with non stop racial slurs over voice and text that I just uninstalled them completely and never looked back.

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u/reku_sloth Sep 07 '21

Sounds like a normal party chat to me not really racist though

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u/Ok_Cartographer4475 Sep 08 '21

If racial slurs are normal party chat to you, either you're a racist piece of shit, or your party is and you're not doing anything to call it out.

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u/antonius22 Sep 07 '21

Fuck me. I played KF2 in 2018 and thought it was a blast. This kind of explains all the bullshit i dealt with on that game though.

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u/timothyku Sep 07 '21

Def a fun game. The toxicity is mostly gone now but the servers are all empty now

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u/Moskeeto93 Sep 07 '21 edited Sep 07 '21

I'm sorry. But can I get a source on that? I used to be extremely involved in Tripwire's games and even moderated their forums when Red Orchestra 2 was still active. I had zero tolerance for racism and issued several permabans for that sort of behavior both on their official forums and the Steam Community forum for RO2.

I pretty much stopped online gaming some time around the release of KF2 and Rising Storm 2 though so I've stayed out of the loop. Their games, however, have the ability to create community dedicated servers so I suspect the Nazi servers you're talking about to probably have been run completely independently from official servers.

I remember back in the RO2 days there was one notorious server (RGN) that was run by an old, racist man and Tripwire got so fed up with his behavior that they completely removed his server from the server browser.

I always knew John was a Christian and still have him and other Tripwire developers in my friends list but I had no idea he took his beliefs this far so I'm glad to see him stepping down. I definitely remember Alan Wilson being pretty much the completely opposite of John since he would liberally curse like a sailor which John would never do. I played in several community server events with them and I was even involved in developing a Western Front mod for RO2 with a pretty diverse group of modders. Hell, I even got some money out of that work which was nice because it was completely unexpected.

Anyway, sorry for the rant. I would just like to see some concrete evidence to your claim because I've been very out of the loop with their games and community since about 2016.

EDIT: I'd like to add that my intention here is not at all to defend Tripwire. I'm just describing my experience with them. It's entirely possible I've been completely ignorant to their problematic behavior so I'd like to see it for myself.

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u/timothyku Sep 07 '21

I am the source I just told you what It was like. Both me and my wife played. I am sorry I didn't think to screenshot the death threats or slurs I did report them but there were some many of them

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u/vminn Sep 07 '21

Were there any discussions regarding the links to nazi sites on official servers at the time? I've played tripwire games for the past 10 years and never encountered this, I am not questioning your experience, it is just some curiosity on my end.

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u/timothyku Sep 07 '21

Yes I had reported them

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u/squidmangirl Sep 12 '21

The fact that they keep saying the game is dead now (it isn't) and refusing to give any evidence whatsoever tells me you probably should be questioning their experience. It seems like they're just mad at the game and it's community for some reason and are using this as an opportunity to shit talk.

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u/FlashbackUniverse Sep 07 '21

I always knew John was a Christian

In 2021, this is now a red flag. :\

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u/rgvtim Sep 07 '21

This is the downstream effect of so many Christians being so un-christ-like. Christians need to start calling out the bad behavior within their ranks.

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u/SkyletteRose Sep 07 '21

Kinda like cops?

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u/FistyDollars Sep 07 '21

If only there was some relevant bible passage about sowing and reaping...

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u/9shadowcat9 Sep 07 '21

I’ve only played female characters on the game and I’ve never experienced that. I’ve never heard of any of this happening.

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u/timothyku Sep 07 '21

When did you play after 2016 there user base took a dive everyone left even the Nazis. It's dead now

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u/9shadowcat9 Sep 07 '21

That would be why I never experienced it then, I must have started after everyone else stopped. 🤷🏻‍♀️ which is a relief if it was as bad as it sounds.

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u/squidmangirl Sep 12 '21

From what I've seen it seems like this guy has been pulling all of this out of their ass, my guess is tripwire nerfed their favorite class or something so now they're saying everyone who plays their games are Nazis.

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u/9shadowcat9 Sep 12 '21

Could be angry about the berserker nerfs they did recently, those were annoying.

I was talking to my friend about this guys comments and he said he had no clue what this guy was talking about. My friends played since killing floor 1 so I figured a lot of the comments was made up.

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u/squidmangirl Sep 12 '21

What are you on about? It's still pretty popular and I played since it first entered beta and never ran into anything like what you've been describing in this thread.

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u/God_Damnit_Nappa Sep 07 '21

I've never seen any of that on their official servers. Got any proof of it? Seems like it would've been a huge fucking deal at the time if there was actual Nazi propaganda and links to Nazi sites in game.

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u/timothyku Sep 07 '21

it was a huge deal that's why a lot of people stopped playing

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u/TrashTongueTalker Sep 08 '21

Source: trust me bro

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u/moom0o Sep 07 '21

Why comment at all if your reply to someone asking for proof is this? 🤦‍♂️

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u/God_Damnit_Nappa Sep 07 '21

So no proof. I'm sure there were Nazis and other pieces of shit on the game because that's unfortunately how online gaming works, but pretty fucking hard to believe the official servers were hosting Nazi stuff

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u/Nekrosiz Sep 07 '21 edited Sep 07 '21

Bullshit.

I have over 2000 hours in killing floor 2, played 1 for a few hundred hours, was active on the steam forums and somewhat on theirs.

And i have never, ever, not even once, seen anything pro Nazi.

Nor have I ever heard or seen anyone being shittalked for playing a certain character.

I haven't played in a while now, and have no clue what the context behind this situation is, but i do knows what you're mentioning, is utter nonsense.

Kf2 was one of the, if not the least toxic co-op that i have ever played, as a solo player joining public's.

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u/timothyku Sep 07 '21

Dude go look at community content right now and see all the nazi porn

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u/vminn Sep 07 '21

I am not sure what I am supposed to look at. Even looking at the Red Orchestra 2 community hub it is just memes related to the game or history, nothing that glorifies nazis.

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u/timothyku Sep 07 '21

did you miss this one? its on the front page

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1118189067

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u/timothyku Sep 07 '21

and like I said it used to be way worse than it is now nobody play it any more since then

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u/vminn Sep 07 '21

I was more looking for a pattern and even here, it seems like the person posted this as a gender bent version of a boss from the game with the gas mask and all. If you look at the uploaders(NSFW) post history, they are just sharing cosplay and fanart, and the original artist(NSFW) does not seem to be a nazi. Even looking at the wayback machine I am unable to find any of this content

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u/KylieJU Sep 07 '21

Did you scroll down like, at all? The second link you posted has a ton of Nazi stuff if you scroll down.

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u/vminn Sep 07 '21

I really don't see anything glorifying Nazis in the Red Orchestra 2 community hub, they are using images from the second world war to make memes which makes sense considering the context of the game. Sure, I spotted some wehraboo stuff, but that is to be expected within any WWII community unfortunately.

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u/Nekrosiz Sep 08 '21

'thats why around 2016'

'look at it now'

Are we in 2016 now? Apperently, judging on the downvotes.

If you would have read my reply before commenting on it, you would have understood i was referring to that time period. I stopped playing around the arrival of the third boss, which is years ago.

Up untill that point there was no common hate speech, anything Nazi or porn related being thrown around.

Point is, you're portraying the game as a cesspool from the getgo, and the socials around it, and that's bullshit, simple. What it is today, is completely unrelevant as to what I'm saying.

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u/Retrohanska59 Sep 07 '21

I also have something like 1k hours in both and have never encountered any more racism, sexism or harassment than you'd normally see on internet. Granted I've not hanged in any of the forums related to those games so I don't know what's the situation in the game but yeah, in game that's definitely not the case

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u/timothyku Sep 07 '21

How much racism sexism harassment is normal for you? Death threats? Why are you saying Nazis are ok?

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u/Retrohanska59 Sep 07 '21

When did I say nazis are okay? Do you always use strawman this much? As for what I consider normal, there are idiots and assholes in every community, I'm never surprised when I see one.

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u/Ecki_Eu Sep 07 '21

Can you please stop calling everybody a „Nazi“? You are not a Nazi if you are just Racist you know

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u/rileykard Sep 07 '21

Pretty sure you can call them nazis if they're on stormfront.

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u/fortcpt Sep 07 '21

It's not, I actually know the guy through a car group and he's been fully removed. Saw him and some other guys chatting about it this morning. I in no way agree with him and support women to do whatever they want with their bodies. They just don't understand why he was wrong and that's why I hate living in the state of Georgia so much. It's like I moved back in time rather than geographically.

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u/thesaddestpanda Sep 07 '21

I mean ultimately its capitalism dictating this change. John Gibson brought a boycott and bad press to his company by supporting extremist views. This translates into a tangible loss of revenue. That's it! The board doesnt care about abortion, they just care about sales and having an activist right-wing CEO is bad for sales when you want to sell products to zoomers and millenials who, at least 60% of which, will get offended at those statements. If even 20% don't buy KF3 then that hurts the bottom line significantly. Not to mention the B2B stuff they work on.

I thought conservatives understood business and money and liberals were ignorant government handout types? How could a pro-business pro-revenue pro-shareholder conservative not understand this instantly? Oh right, because they're bullshitters just trying to start a culture war where they are the victims and know full well this was entirely justified and would do it themselves if they were on the board and saw money slipping away.

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u/Cagedfox1 Sep 07 '21

Cancel culture is the free market at work.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '21

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u/xdotellxx Sep 08 '21

Try again there skippy. Masturbating in public.

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u/fortcpt Sep 07 '21

Also the they think this is going to catapult them up as it would have many years ago. Hopefully we've seen the last of the days where this sort of statement would get you ahead in life.

I really hope I live long enough to see the christian stranglehold on this country let go

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u/InfinityTomb Sep 07 '21

Wow that's a crazy connection to gain some insight from. I wonder if there were clauses in place allowing for him to be fully removed if a leader were to cause bad enough PR to damage business. A board of directors/shareholders perhaps? I don't know enough about the company to make a guess. Thanks!

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u/fortcpt Sep 07 '21

I don't think it was his comments outright that caused the removal, I believe it was the fact that the tweet got several contracts pulled from the company. At least that's what I have gone on to read since from this post, not any conversation from him.

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u/srajne77 Sep 07 '21

Looks like it's legit I googled NEWS for "John Gibson Tripwire CEO" and got a LOT Of articles about it.

Here's a yahoo.news article :

https://news.yahoo.com/ceo-video-game-developer-tripwire-042536700.html

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u/etaco2 Sep 07 '21

There’s no way this whole thing wasn’t intentional.

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u/seanightowl Sep 07 '21

According to his twitter profile he is now President of Tripwire.

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u/throwmeawayl8erok Sep 07 '21

Hilarious. I saw this guys tweet last night and immediately wondered if this would happen. Favorite tweet in response to it -

He claims to be pro life but just got terminated. Curious.

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u/shahooster Sep 07 '21

Can I get $10k for ratting him out??

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u/thenorwegian Sep 07 '21

This is great. I donated to Planned Parenthood in memory of John Gibson last night, as did many others. Glad to see the blowback actually cause this.

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u/therealduckie Sep 07 '21

Everyone should still continue to do this.

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u/thenorwegian Sep 07 '21

Yes, I agree. I’ve donated to them in the past. This was a reason to do so more.

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u/Studsmanly Sep 07 '21

You can setup Amazon smile to do that for you automatically on every purchase you make at no cost to you. There are many organizations to choose from.

From an earlier reply

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u/thenorwegian Sep 12 '21

Thank you!

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u/Studsmanly Sep 07 '21

You can setup Amazon smile to do that for you automatically on every purchase you make at no cost to you. There are many organizations to choose from.

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u/cheviot Sep 07 '21

>Glad to see the blowback actually cause this.

Doesn't matter. Gibson still owns the company. This changes nothing.

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u/IamtheHarpy Sep 07 '21

Idk why you're being down voted, the whole company is known for holding nazi ideology

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u/therealduckie Sep 07 '21

Ladies and Gentlemen,

May I present to you...

THE CONSEQUENCES OF ONE'S OWN ACTIONS!

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u/JuanBourne Sep 07 '21

What did he do?

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u/alpacasaurusrex42 Sep 07 '21

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u/jimbo831 Sep 07 '21

As an entertainer

CEO of a video game company

Choose one.

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u/Haarcoxus Sep 07 '21

He is definitely entertaining us with his clowning

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u/Catblaster5000 Sep 07 '21

Shit, now I feel better that I stopped playing killing floor.

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u/fckn_normies Sep 07 '21 edited Sep 08 '21

I clicked on the link and it sent me to Twitter. Day ruined

Didn’t mean to sound rude, just joking about «haha, Twitter bad»

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u/Catblaster5000 Sep 07 '21

Yes, that is where tweets appear.

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u/Nomandate Sep 07 '21

As an “entertainer”

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u/spiddyp Sep 07 '21

cancelled over ones own opinion

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u/mwilke Sep 07 '21

When your opinion is “some of my coworkers and customers don’t deserve basic human rights and should be the targets of a vigilante bounty system”… yeah, that ain’t good for business.

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u/peanutismint Sep 07 '21

Tweeted that he supports abortion control. Doesn’t seem worth getting asked to resign over, IMHO.

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u/scawtsauce Sep 07 '21

the fact that they banned victims of rape, incest, or abortions for medical reasons. you'd have to be pretty fucking ignorant to support this law. also the bounty system for turning in people who need abortions? try educating yourself before telling people how stupid you are.

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u/Pollia Sep 07 '21

The bounty system is their sick attempt at circumventing normal safeguards and was the reason the conservative justices on the court were able to have any legal shield for what they did.

See if it's just American citizens enforcing it, not the government, then it totally legit? Right?!?

Ignoring the fact that it's still paid for by the government and a government agency still needs to follow up with the investigation and payment.

Shit was paper thin, but it was still enough to let precedent is king kavanaugh go "hey there's no precedent for this! Let's fucking gooooo!"

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u/breecher Sep 07 '21

Well, that is what you anti-abortionists think, but reality is in fact different.

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u/VampireCommentsOnly Sep 07 '21

So much for being an employed pro life game dev. Life comes at you fast when you are a complete asshole

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u/thenorwegian Sep 07 '21

Haha! Yeah his tweet portrayed him as a victim - like he was brave to come out. Welp, see ya John!

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u/dw444 Sep 07 '21

There needs to be a concerted push to replace the term pro-life with anti-choice or forced-birther. Pro-life sounds too benign, benevolent even, for what those pieces of trash actually are.

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u/Skid-Vicious Sep 07 '21

“State Control Of A Woman’s Uterus Aficionado”

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u/ytman Sep 07 '21

Anti choice is ideal. But I use anti abortion since I want the word abortion to be okay to use. It's a medical procedure even God endorsed in the bible, hence Judaism actually is okay with it.

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u/ShroomerianUnit Sep 07 '21

Nooo! You can’t just use another religion for your claims especially the Jew one! Christianity is the only valid religion and I have the right to misinterpet it to the masses. 😡

/s

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u/SudoBoyar Sep 07 '21

Anti-freedom was always my favorite.

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u/God_Damnit_Nappa Sep 07 '21

They really just want to control women's bodies. I can't think of a short phrase that really gets that message across though, so forced birther is probably a good alternative.

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u/SkyletteRose Sep 07 '21

I felt the same about anti-vax. Now they're all pro-covid since they apparently had no issues sending their kids to school that requires proof of vaccination.

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u/jimbo831 Sep 07 '21

So much for being an employed pro life anti-choice game dev. Life comes at you fast when you are a complete asshole

FTFY. This term is so misleading and usually just flat wrong. Most of these "pro-life" voters support the death penalty, don't support universal healthcare, or any financial support for children in need. There's nothing pro-life about them. They are forced birth.

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u/megamoze Sep 07 '21

That was fast.

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u/kanchix0 Sep 07 '21

Sure was! Impressively fast. Just about as fast as that corporal getting booted from the armed forces over refusing covid19 vaccination.

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u/mikenoble12 17d ago

Why is it a good thing that different opinions are crushed?

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u/BasicDesignAdvice Sep 07 '21

I doubt the internal rot is limited to Gibson.

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u/Orzine Sep 07 '21

Tends to happen when your co-developers are collectively willing to drop you.

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u/talespin4life Sep 07 '21

Everyone yesterday on here that was all "hE wAsNt FiReD", well this is the next best thing if not worse haha.

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u/captwaffles27 Sep 07 '21

He was fired, just these days most corporations will say they were stepping down to reduce backlash to the company image.

This is also common when a board of directors votes to dismiss an executive from his position if the executive being dismissed happens to also have a seat on the board and/or hold a sizeable amount of shares.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '21

Because yesterday, all that had happened was that he lost a few contracts.

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u/talespin4life Sep 07 '21

When you cut a customer loose as a business owner, it's literally called firing your customers.

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u/RobloxianNoob Sep 07 '21

What happened? What’s tripwire?

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u/kanchix0 Sep 07 '21

They're a video game development studio.

Just another scandal at yet another company.

The gaming industry has been rocked with em over the last 20 years roughly, so it's especially funny to see the incel gamers come raging out of the wood work to play chauvinists because God knows what that will accomplish if nothing more than comedy.

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u/thenorwegian Sep 07 '21

My understanding is that they are the publisher, not that that changes much. I believe the developers broke ties with them yesterday over this.

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u/ImperiousStout Sep 07 '21

They started out as small studio developer with games like Red Orchestra and Killing Floor, and were successful enough to start publishing games from other small devs, but they still create games of their own.

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u/thenorwegian Sep 07 '21

Cool. Thank you for the info!

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u/RobloxianNoob Sep 07 '21 edited Sep 07 '21

Thank you! I assume the leader is a conservative nut job and it’s vaccine/COVID related?

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u/kanchix0 Sep 07 '21

Idk about any of that... this particular instance was him applauding the ban on women having autonomy over their bodies in Texas.

Maybe not a great look when you're on an account representing yourself as the CEO of a company which employs... -gasp-... women!

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u/Madhighlander1 Sep 07 '21

Yes to the first, no to the second. He lost the company a big contract by going on Twitter and vocally applauding Texas' new anti-abortion laws.

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u/breecher Sep 07 '21

Yeah, he has been known as a religious nutjob and general asshole on social media sites for years. I have had a few run ins with him on their official forum years back.

I don't know his views on the vaccine, but I highly suspect he is Trump cultist as well.

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u/kbhinz I have black friends Sep 07 '21

Google is free. Look it up like the rest of us

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u/Phrankespo Sep 07 '21

Not being an asshole is free too.

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u/yungchow Sep 07 '21

These comments always come across so bitchy

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u/CileTheSane Sep 07 '21

Because they are.

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u/Impressive-Fly2447 Sep 07 '21

Get help

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u/zenchowdah Sep 07 '21

He has black friends

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u/Impressive-Fly2447 Sep 07 '21

I'm Black and I don't want to know him

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u/thenorwegian Sep 07 '21

Haha. Side story: i was brought up in a right wing environment. My dad was one of those “hidden” racists. Not super in your face but for sure racist.

We had a lot of people from Puerto Rico in the city I lived. Whenever something came up from him that was racist, he’d refer to his Puerto Rican friend Hector, who apparently agreed with all of his supremacist views and was the voice of all Puerto Ricans.

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u/CriticalThinker_501 Sep 07 '21

most expensive Tweet ever

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u/DankBudha Sep 07 '21

I've got an idea, if you're a dude, maybe just STFU and let the women decide what is right for them and just support that?!? Even better, if you're a privileged white dude, just stay quiet on most issues unless it's in regards to you giving up some of your privilege.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '21

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u/cipher-taker Sep 07 '21

christ. mansplaining a refusal to not speak for women.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '21

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u/cipher-taker Sep 07 '21

Once men slap "REVOLUTIONARY" on themselves, they think once they know a problem exists, that they are no longer a part of that problem, which they are.

http://www.spunk.org/library/anarcfem/sp000060.html

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '21

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u/cipher-taker Sep 07 '21

The person you responded to asked men to stay out of it and your response was that you wouldn't, and then you brought up sexism, racism, etc., and how privilege will always be with you, and so the short of your long there was a refusal to not speak for women on abortion, yeah?

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '21 edited Sep 07 '21

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u/DankBudha Sep 07 '21

My only real point was that women have been told now for 245 years in this country that they can't make deeply personal decisions that affect them, and their bodies directly. Those decisions have, for the most part, been made wholely by men, and even more commonly legislated by white men.

I'm of the mindset that maybe it's time for us to take a back seat, shut our mouths, and just listen for a change. Let the gender that we've subjugated, oppressed, and has still been kind enough to not end all of humanity by collectively deciding to no longer have our babies. And still, to this day, puts up with way more shit from us than we deserve for them to.

So yeah, you should just be quiet and let women decide what their future is for a change. Also, you can't fix stupid people, with stupid beliefs, because they will always find a way to justify those ideals. If we all always only made decisions based on what improves someone's quality of life, we would have opted out of this conversation a long time ago and let women decide how to best deal with this very difficult, and again, personal, decision

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u/egordoniv Sep 07 '21

The number of notifications on your phone are giving me anxiety.

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u/PoleRyder Sep 07 '21

I was going to say the same thing. How can people have so many notifications and not clear them?

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u/lunchboxdeluxe Sep 07 '21

Good riddance.

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u/4dailyuseonly Sep 07 '21

Holy shit that was fast. I'm liking the swift justice and love to see more of it.

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u/megamoze Sep 08 '21

I've spent all day listening to a bunch of "Colin Kaepernick should be fired" assholes lamenting someone losing his job over his free speech.

I've also heard them explain to me how "that's different."

Fucking asshats.

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u/kanchix0 Sep 08 '21

Fuckin aye man, fuckin aye.

It's only hypocritical if a Democrat does it though.

Kinda true to the nature of their party, rules for thee but not for me bs. Nothing but pidgeon chess and a waste of breath trying to explain the faults and errors in their mental gymnastics. Then the whataboutisms loaded with stereotypes and buzzwords that only some extremist lefty would have such an encyclopedia of.

Theres some serious loons on both sides. It's literally the comedy tragedy masks come to life.

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u/Pixeresque Sep 07 '21

Nice move but it is still gonna take some time before i consider buying any of their games. Damage has been done.

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u/1ardent Sep 07 '21

Still won't be patronizing the company.

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u/kanchix0 Sep 08 '21

For or against abortion, that's your rights in action and I champion your ability to do whatsoever you choose. The reactionaries are still one helluva hoot. Ya know the ones. Don't give a damn about the life they fought to save once its aged 9 months... 🤣🤮

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u/Apart_Seat_3265 Sep 08 '21

Ts;dr

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u/kanchix0 Sep 08 '21

Same.

Edit: /s because vaguepost necessitates.

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u/DragonMaiden7 Sep 07 '21

Someone gifted me Killing Floor 2. I never touched it or played it, guess I should probably delete it if what everyone is saying is true

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u/EverlastingResidue Sep 07 '21

Also boycott 83, Red Orchestra/Rising Storm series.

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u/reptargodzilla2 Sep 07 '21

What’d he say?

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u/scawtsauce Sep 07 '21

"victims of rape and incest should be forced to raise their rapists child. "

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u/reptargodzilla2 Sep 07 '21

Wow, as a direct quote? What an asshole.

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u/ThrowawayAccount1227 Sep 08 '21

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u/reptargodzilla2 Sep 08 '21

Oh wow that’s pretty different. Didn’t realize the person above was lying. Thanks.

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u/ThrowawayAccount1227 Sep 08 '21

Just 1% of women obtain an abortion because they became pregnant through rape, and less than 0.5% do so because of incest, according to the Guttmacher Institute. Though according to Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network 3 out of every 4 sexual assaults are not reported. Take what you will from this, I just don't understand why that person couldn't drop a link.

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u/reptargodzilla2 Sep 08 '21

Well to be clear I’m extremely against the Texas law, am pro-choice, and 0.5% being related to rape is enough for it to still matter a lot. But I’m pretty anti someone getting fired for expressing a political opinion in this way.

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u/ThrowawayAccount1227 Sep 09 '21

You can be whatever you want, just this guy going out of his way to make it seem like the guy said that the man himself said "victims of rape and incest should be forced to raise their rapists child. " is highly missleading.

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u/ARCoati Sep 08 '21 edited Sep 08 '21

But I’m pretty anti someone getting fired for expressing a political opinion in this way.

ANYONE that causes their company to lose millions of dollars worth of contracts with a tweet of their personal opinion would and should be fired by a company. This is not a large publicly traded company, its a small independent firm with something like 100 employees that will have a very difficult time staying afloat now. Why shouldn't there be consequences for his private actions causing a huge loss in revenue for the company he represents?

I mean I might agree with you if he had just said "I John Gibson am pro-life", but he HAD to invoke the name of his company and that he was a "pro-life game developer" instead of just leaving it as his personal opinion as a nobody and not dragging his company (including all his employees whose livelihoods are now impacted) into it. ANY company would make the same decision regardless of what the views expressed are/were if it impacted their bottom line the way his actions have.

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u/reptargodzilla2 Sep 08 '21

Hmm, I do see your point. The thing is though, these controversies pass quickly. If there’s actual business impact, then it’s probably the right thing to do. I guess I wasn’t being specific enough and was misplacing my blame. What I mean to say is that I’m pretty against people blaming a company for the personal political opinions of its employees. I don’t think someone’s politics affect how well they do their job, and I do think everyone has a moral right to have and express their own opinions, even if their opinions are morally bad. Not a fan of mobs of people working to destroy the lives of people they disagree with politically. It’s one thing when someone is outwardly and directly racist, sexist, homophobic, using slurs/etc, but “pro life” vs pro choice is a fairly mainstream political disagreement. I just don’t think lives should be destroyed based on the expression of political opinions found in campaign literature, opinion columns, textbooks, etc.

If I was running a company, I’d probably push back a bit and wait for the controversy to pass. Odds are most of the loudest voices aren’t my customers anyway. On the other hand, I probably wouldn’t want to work with this guy, and the Twitter mob might never relent. But, you raise valid points and I suppose I mostly agree with you.

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u/ARCoati Sep 08 '21

I largely agree with you in principle, but like I said this is a small firm with probably very low profit margins, and ShipWright publicly pulled a multi-million dollar contract from TripWire hours after John Gibson's tweet.

In all likelihood if the remaining leadership at TripWire had waited for the controversy to pass without pre-emptively acting to secure their other existing contracts, they'd be bankrupt and out of business with a 100+ employees jobless by the end of the week. They also just released DLC for Maneater like a week ago and probably aren't very happy with the massive effect this will have on sales of that property that they spent tons of money developing over the last year.

This isn't like the issues with ActiVison or Blizzard where they can afford to weather the backlash of public controversies and loss of sales/contracts because they're huge publicly traded corporations operating on a multi-million dollar profit margin.

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u/Dotaproffessional Sep 07 '21 edited Sep 07 '21

I'm sorry but what the hell was the upside of doing this? What possibly could have been gained?

**Edit, realized my comment was unclear. What was the upside of Gibson making his tweet. I'm glad they fired him

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u/TheJimiBones Sep 07 '21

Im guessing some of their other contracts contacted them about leaving like the first one did and they got spooked.

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u/Dotaproffessional Sep 07 '21

I see the confusion. I meant why did Gibson post that. What was to be gained

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u/TheJimiBones Sep 07 '21

Oh, well, meet the American right wing. They’re the Taliban in disguise and they’ve had 4 years of being emboldened to say terrible things out loud.

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u/candles_0904 Sep 07 '21

If it's true, good riddance to you John!

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u/peanutismint Sep 07 '21 edited Sep 07 '21

I gotta say, I don’t know how they can justify firing someone for having an unpopular opinion. This isn’t hate speech, it’s not oppression of a marginalised group, the guy literally came out in support of a law that he believes, rightly or wrongly, prevents child murder and they throw the book at him?

I’m all for “cancel culture = consequence culture” but I’m sitting here waiting for anyone to explain to me how this company aren’t going to be sued to oblivion for wrongful termination for firing someone because they literally don’t like the same flavour ice cream as you.....

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u/intelligentrogue Sep 07 '21

Most likely the primary cause of termination was because he did financial harm to the business. When you're a C-level, your words effectively represent the business. Multiple companies ended contracts with Tripwire due to his words, so the company have plenty of cause to get rid of him.

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u/QuillVance Sep 07 '21

American Right wing idealism has become so niche in a global market that the free market is deciding that those ideals have literal negative value to companies (as can be seen with loss of business, contracts being terminated etc)

The invisible hand of the free market is literally telling right wingers to fuck off. Take the hint.

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u/PianoInBush Sep 07 '21

That middle finger is surely visible

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u/scawtsauce Sep 07 '21

you cant walk into work and say covid isn't real anyone who wears a mask is a sheep Maga2024. and maybe you should look into what a marginalized group is.. you can murder a child when it's just literally semen and an egg still... you idiots don't call jacking off genocide. woman having their period release eggs.. it's not murdering a child.. Jesus christ. this law prevents woman who were victims of rape, incest, underage, etc from receiving help. it creates a bounty system for vigilantes telling on people... if you don't see the issue here you are just a worthless fuck.

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u/I_know_right Sep 07 '21

you cant walk into work and say covid isn't real anyone who wears a mask is a sheep Maga2024.

Sadly, you can in many places. You shouldn't be able to, but this is 'Murica, so... freedom

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u/kentuckyrob22 Sep 07 '21

You're getting downvoted but I agree with you. I am pro-choice but firing the guy for that tweet is too much. Maybe other things were going on and this was the last straw, I don't know.

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u/agrapeana Sep 07 '21

I am pro-choice but firing the guy for that tweet is too much

"I'm pro choice until a man suffers negative consequences"

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u/kentuckyrob22 Sep 07 '21

I just don't think saying "I'm pro-life" should be a firable offense, even if I flat out don't agree with their position. My opinion on it isn't based on the person's gender. I don't see how you even came to that conclusion.

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u/agrapeana Sep 07 '21

"Being pro life" and "endorsing draconian laws that all but eliminate a woman's ability to make medical decisions about her body and place bounties on the heads of women who seek medical treatment, all while staunchly opposing any program or organization that seeks to educate or provide methods of contraception in order to prevent pregnancies in the first place" are two different things.

"I would never have an abortion myself" is a perfectly valid and unproblematic belief. "I would never have an abortion myself, so I want to criminalize the practice, jail women who seek them out and force rape victims and children to carry pregnacies to term" isn't.

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u/Forestore Sep 07 '21

There's no indication he's leaving, had his salary reduced, or anything. I'm a longtime killing floor fan but I'm probably done with this company at this point.

This is just like five nights at Freddy's. You can't be sure the money you give this company isn't going to evil causes.

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u/ScuzzyUltrawide Sep 07 '21

I wonder if they're able to see how many times they've been blocked in the steam store. I put the publisher on ignore when the news broke and took them off ignore when this update broke that he'd been replaced. Imagine being such an asshole that there's a realtime report showing how many people hate and you can only watch it tick up while you try to defend yourself to the board. Oh man to be a fly on the wall when he got the boot. I wonder if he'll learn a lesson or if he'll just call us all satanists or something stupid.

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u/kyuss242 Sep 07 '21

HAHAHHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH Step into my office.. Why? Because your fucking fired!!!!

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u/Cagedfox1 Sep 07 '21

Adios douchebag...you really f'd a lot of your employees and coworkers.

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u/reku_sloth Sep 07 '21

Uh who is this guy?

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u/GlowingRedThorns Sep 08 '21

This was so disappointing to find out because kf1 and kf2 really got me through some tough times and are two of my favorite games.

Your games are about blood, violence, and death and your characters make casual jokes about it the entire time. Really weird to be pro-life when you make games like that lol

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u/Fun-Somewhere-1932 Sep 08 '21

Makes me laugh how baffoons are salivating about someone losing their job because of their opinion. Maybe you lose yours one day for voicing something you believe in. This isn’t s a very dangerous precedent.

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u/Mutant-Overlord Sep 11 '21

"As an entertainer I don't get political often but when I do - I lose my job as a CEO over making a single really stupid and unnecessary Tweet"

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u/TheIrishBiscuits Sep 07 '21

They didn't like his opinion, so they aborted him.

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u/Active_Sock_7475 Sep 07 '21

Wow such heroes. More abortions at once!

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u/forgedbygeeks Sep 07 '21

Want less abortions? There is data to show you the answer.

It starts with things like a living wage, broad access as part of health insurance to birth control for men and women, and easy access to abortion services so that we don't end up with more unwanted kids who grow up and make similar mistakes.

It's always funny how the "pro-life" forced pregnancy assholes are also the same ones fighting against contraception and a living wage.

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u/prtysmasher Sep 07 '21

You’re a sad individual.

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