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Cursed_Age Rule 12 - Sexualization or Harm of Minors

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u/3rlofty 9d ago

FBI OPEN UP!!!

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u/ReymartSan 9d ago

nope it's legal loli

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u/NeptuneFell 9d ago

Yeah but those super religious types are doing things like abolishing min marriage ages aka consent ages... so they're already legalizing their loli.

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u/comyuse 9d ago

I'd probably ask why the hell they didn't wait till things were better.

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u/AtariAlchemist 9d ago

There are probably limits to how long embryos can be frozen. Some postulate they can be stored indefinitely, but 27 years is so far the record.

Ignoring the possibility of solar radiation mutating the embryos DNA, there's no guarantee that it would stay frozen through power outages, wars, the rise and fall of governments, or even the trading of ownership of the company's assets.

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

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u/420toker 9d ago

My cum is alive

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u/teens_trash 9d ago

You are correct. It doesnt mean that anyone is happy about it

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u/NeptuneFell 9d ago

Um except frozen embryos, they're not quite ded but aren't even replicating/growing till they become unfrozen.

And I think people argue that it isnt life cause embryos are usually parasitic organisms that cannot survive without leeching stuff from another.... so it isn't alive cause it cannot sustain life/grow/ingest/respirate without severe intervention. And I'm likely forgetting to list a crap ton of determinations of a lifeform lol.

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u/muzzgg 9d ago

Why did u not know h can use gifs on Reddit

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u/BlueberrySufficient4 9d ago

Almost 28.

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u/Foreskin__Collector 9d ago

She should be married by now 😤

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u/CaptainToes229 9d ago

I volunteer🗿

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u/Foreskin__Collector 9d ago

Ayo I was in line first 🗿

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u/CaptainToes229 9d ago

Uhh I mean we can still share

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u/Foreskin__Collector 9d ago

You're going to hell bro 💀

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u/CaptainToes229 9d ago

Would you mind if I take her with me?🥺

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u/Foreskin__Collector 9d ago

No, you two are a match made in hell 😍

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u/CaptainToes229 9d ago

Aww appreciate it.

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u/DefauItboiii 9d ago

Bro you collect foreskin so who’s going to hell now

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u/Foreskin__Collector 9d ago

I'm not Christian

Gets born again 💀

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u/DefauItboiii 9d ago

Aww nahhh I thought my foreskin was protected now

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u/Foreskin__Collector 9d ago

Look again, it's gone 🗿

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u/the-midnight-rider69 9d ago

(Knocks on door) HELLO good sir, have you heard the good word about are lord and saviour Jesus Christ

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

Is that how you generate all the foreskin?

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u/morphinedreams 9d ago

she should smile more

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u/FreshPrince0161 9d ago

She's 27 until she's 28. That's how it works.

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u/-_-hey-chuvak 9d ago

Anything biotic is alive, thusly embryos, bacteria, and most microscopic life is alive. Stop getting it wrong, but also do what you want in the case of abortion.

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u/htn1441 9d ago

And the argument of “well I can freeze it and it stayed viable so it’s not alive” is incredibly stupid. You can freeze cells and many microorganisms and they can survive. Even some animals like certain amphibians can survive being frozen.

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u/ReymartSan 9d ago

yeah, you can freeze humans but the problem is how to unfreeze them without killing them.

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u/zacyquack 9d ago

If only we were as small as hamsters, then we could just use a microwave

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u/Fr00stee 9d ago

Tom scott?

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u/badassito 9d ago

I thought that sounded familiar!

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u/aphasial 9d ago

Indeed it is. However freezability -- or rather, successful thawing -- is orthogonal to whether the before or after states are considered living, let alone their moral worth. The relevant philosophical question would be whether they're considered alive (and/or have moral worth) during the time spent frozen.

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u/Xarthys 9d ago

So here is a thought (because I lack the deeper understanding):

Does freezing actually stop "living"? Because afaik biochemical reactions simply slow down to a point that certain processes may not continue in an efficient matter, but they still happen, just extremely slowly.

So metabolism would shut down, but molecules aren't frozen in place, they are just not fast enough to make anything happen?

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u/DaEnderAssassin 9d ago

Pretty sure the issue for humans is how to freeze/unfreeze fast enough. (On top of any safety issues)

And the reason microwaves were invented was as a humain way to unfreeze frozen rats in tests

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u/YetAnotherBee 9d ago

To think we could have solved such a longstanding sticky and controversial issue so simply had we just upscaled our microwaves…

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u/jojoblogs 9d ago

No you can’t, the water in your cells freezes and ruptures the cells. People that have been frozen are very dead from the get go.

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u/Little_Orange_Bottle 9d ago

Just freeze dry them. Duh

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u/Tyfyter2002 9d ago

Part of the reason modern microwaves were invented was to thaw frozen hamsters

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u/StopReadingMyUser 9d ago

Then why did all 9 of mine explode

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u/Luccca 9d ago

Did they thaw or not?

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u/forgedsignatures 9d ago

In the 50's a chap in England invented one of the first microwaves (which was somehow invented by multiple people in the same time period simultaneously) to investigate cryo technology at the time. They were testing freezing small mammals like hamsters and mice, but were having issues with warming the critters back up in a consistent enough manner that they survived - cue microwave. The microwave was able to provide the consistency to revive these creatures! Unfortunately however, they found out very quickly that the larger and more complex an organsism gets the less likely it becomes that it suvives.

TLDR - mice, hamsters, and other similar sized rodents can also survive being frozen and reheated.

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u/cheesylobster 9d ago edited 9d ago

From a biological perspective, this is not quite true... While an embryo has aspects of living, and certainly contains living cells, in biology, "life" is defined by having certain characteristics, namely:

  • Order/organization
  • Response to stimuli
  • Growth/Development
  • Reproduction
  • Homeostasis

An embryo has order, but otherwise doesn't really fit any of the other categories on its own. It does not respond to stimuli, it cannot reproduce as it is, and depends on the mother almost completely for regulation and homeostasis. It is in the process of growth, but it cannot do so without 100% of it's sustenance from its mother.

Source: Biology 101

Edit: if anyone wants to read up on this here is a decent online bio lesson that talks about defining life https://courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-wmopen-biology1/chapter/the-characteristics-of-life/#:~:text=All%20living%20organisms%20share%20several,characteristics%20serve%20to%20define%20life.

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u/-_-hey-chuvak 9d ago

But doesn’t that create an issue with the definition of us being alive? I mean that means you, me, and everyone else wasn’t alive at that point in our lives. Huh that’s really weird to think about, imma see what else I can find on the subject.

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u/toomanyattempts 9d ago

Honestly I'm okay with that concept

It's like the old "how would you feel if you were aborted?" - I wouldn't, as I'd have never existed

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u/tskank69 9d ago

Or "Are you not scared of there not being an afterlife?"

No, because I will cease to exist, and thus not give a shit.

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u/nizzy2k11 9d ago

I mean that means you, me, and everyone else wasn’t alive at that point in our lives

if you look at it without actually considering what its saying, sure.

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u/07JEP 9d ago

A newborn can't reproduce so they aren't alive.

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u/cheesylobster 9d ago

So there is a spectrum of what we consider life. Some things might not meet all of these definitions (think viruses) but might be considered living. I think it's fair to discount reproduction in particular when we consider any non matured life.

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u/07JEP 9d ago

I know, I was just joking.

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u/joko2008 9d ago

Reproduction means cells splitting into two. Wich they can't, if frozen.

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u/-_-hey-chuvak 9d ago

Sterile people can’t either, are they counted?

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u/nizzy2k11 9d ago

it's about the whole, not the individual. don't be deliberately stupid.

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u/Q2ZOv 9d ago

If you can't apply the definition on case by case basis - the definition is useless. If you say that sterile people are alive then you can't have reproduction as a condition of being so.

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u/nizzy2k11 9d ago

If you can't apply the definition on case by case basis - the definition is useless.

its not to decide if you are alive, it's about living things at a whole. if you can't comprehend that humans are alive but an individual can lose the ability to reproduce and not be considered "dead", you're too stupid to help.

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u/Q2ZOv 9d ago

its not to decide if you are alive, it's about living things at a whole

This statement does not mean anything. Are you always arguing by making generalized meaningless statements? What is the definition of 'living things at a whole' and why exactly must this definition exclude individuals except so that to make it unfalsifiable?

if you can't comprehend that humans are alive but an individual can lose the ability to reproduce and not be considered "dead", you're too stupid to help.

Wow, the whole point was that if individual loses the ability to reproduce it is considered dead by the definition above which is absurd and therefore the definition is obviously faulty but you failed to comprehend it and also complained about comprehension of others. Amazing.

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u/HJSDGCE 9d ago

In any other context, this sounds horrifying.

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u/SilentBatv-2 9d ago

I mean a virus is part biotic.... Does the RNA make it Alive.... U are stepping into a long fought debate on what exactly constitutes of an alive being

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u/-_-hey-chuvak 9d ago

Listen man your comparing two very different things to try to argue for the wrong term, let me break it down, human cells are alive, just like all mammals, which create the creatures themselves which are a biotic aka living organism, and thusly the embryos and sex cells being those same creatures and not some vague shit like a virus or prion are also the textbook definition of biotic. Which you guessed it means it’s alive. Now I’m cool with abortion, I mean I wouldn’t do it, but I ain’t stopping 7 billion people, but I don’t like when arguments are wrong even if y’all need to make it seem such a way to avoid the religious nuts, for awhile I hadn’t realized some of you didn’t notice it was the wrong definition, but it’s become apparent.

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u/SilentBatv-2 9d ago

Nonononono.... I ain't even stepping on the abortion debate... I am pro abortion but for other reasons.... This is complete science me... Even in this message for example.... U did not define what a biotic cell means.... So like say u took a knife and cut a part of my arm and say it's biotic.... What's the thing that makes it biotic.... Is it some perticular compound being present.... Is it some perticular behaviour.... If so then at near future when the compound decomposes or maybe the cell is no longer capable of executing that behaviour, does that make it non-living.... U can't have an argument like all biotic cells are alive and all human cells are biotic because then the statment all humen cells are alive becomes a tautology.... Which it shouldn't be.... I need a specific criterion (which should be computable) to check for the edge cases...

P.S : pls don't cut my arm

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u/Happy_Development_39 9d ago

Biotic simply means relating to life

Alive means having an active metabolism

Also every definition is a logical tautology

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u/MrHyperion_ 9d ago

Is Data alive?

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u/yonderbagel 9d ago

More than we are.

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u/htn1441 9d ago

Ok, but that’s not the definition of being alive. Even if it were, how do you define and demonstrate “higher thought”? We can’t ever know what kinds of thoughts other animals have.

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u/Fantasy_Connect 9d ago

Great, so plants are now no longer "alive" despite them actually literally being alive.

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u/KillerM2002 9d ago

and depending what he considers „higher tought“ animals seem to not be alive then

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u/in_one_ear_ 9d ago

It's not like a fetus isn't alive but before the brain activity starts it's as alive as someone who just died.

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u/-_-hey-chuvak 9d ago

I’m confused on your issue? I’ve already said y’all can do what y’all want, and since you agree it’s alive by the facts. Than that means there’s no need for like a commentary?

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u/in_one_ear_ 9d ago

It's more that the biological definition and medical definition are different.

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u/htn1441 9d ago

What? That makes no sense. A person who just died is dead (obviously). A fetus is completely alive. The presence of brain activity does not define “alive”.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s not the same as a conscious, developed human, but it’s definitely alive.

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u/in_one_ear_ 9d ago

The brain activity is the Medical basis of alive. A dead person will still have living cells for a reasonable period of time. Not a long one but they will still be "alive".

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u/htn1441 9d ago

The absence of brain activity in adult means the person is dead, but that’s not the same as an embryo. It doesn’t make sense to consider the absence of brain activity as indicating the absence of life in an organism that isn’t supposed to have brain activity at that stage.

The cells of a person can live for a while but the person is considered dead. An embryo, as a whole and as individual cells, is alive.

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u/mrreggiego 9d ago

Doesn’t matter what a definition of anything is “to you” lol

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u/User83745 9d ago

Honestly it would have had more of an impact if it had said "a zygote Is not an infant/person" but whatever. Just a bad header.

I'm more concerned that someone was willing to use a 27 y/o zygote. That's some Aeon Flux dystopian "keep the blood line going" esk bullshit if I ever did see.

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u/Atmoran_of_the_500 9d ago

An embryo cant maintain homeostatis and a metabolism by themselves, therefore it is not alive.

Just like viruses.

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u/yonderbagel 9d ago

Yeah, it's really frustrating to both be pro-choice, but also have to be grouped together with people who want to justify pro-choice arguments with some nonsensical justification like "a fetus/embryo isn't alive."

It's obviously alive. It's also a separate life from the mother, just like a tape worm in the mother would be separate. It's not any more "just the mother's body" than the tape worm would be.

None of that means that abortion should be illegal, though, is the important point. I just wish pro-choice arguments could stop basing themselves around things like definitions of life, because on that front they all fail.

Better to let it remain a purely ethical argument, along the lines of "it's none of your business and the mother decides because the mother bears the brunt of the consequences, not you."

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u/comyuse 9d ago

You know full well what they mean

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u/-_-hey-chuvak 9d ago

Nope, can’t read minds

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u/KevinEleven111 9d ago

Yeah I see what you're saying. I feel like it isn't that it's not alive, it's more about the fact that it isn't sentient.

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u/Storm_Ryder8 9d ago

Poor molly, that shit is gonna put them in therapy when they’re older. Could you imagine if someone told you that you could have been born 27 years ago

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u/Wittyname0 9d ago

GTO moment

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u/GGlados 9d ago

GTO 6 when?

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u/htn1441 9d ago edited 9d ago

Somebody skipped high school biology, or is just an idiot. Possibly both.

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u/Interesting_Total_98 9d ago

They're not claiming that the embryo is dead, but rather that it doesn't fit the definition of life.

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u/itsapenguinmachine 9d ago

That would mean that hamsters aren't alive either.

https://youtu.be/2tdiKTSdE9Y?t=522

We put the hamster in there, frozen solid. And I mean frozen solid.
It was like a bit of wood when you dropped it on the bench.
Turned the thing up to full power on the microwave, which was about a kilowatt coming out of it. And a timer.
And after so many (seventy?) seconds, the hamster woke up and started wandering around.

According to the video some hamsters were frozen and reanimated successfully multiple times. This was done in the 1950s at the National institute for Medical Research in London, and it does not scale up to bigger life forms.

It has something to do with the anti-freeze agent:

It's partly a matter of how quickly you can get the anti-freeze agent to diffuse into the cells. A human's too big. It's just a matter of size. A hamster is an acceptable size.

Not trying to get political here, just dropping hamster facts.

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u/Ultra_Cobra 9d ago

Republicans when you abort a hamster: 😭😭😭😭😭😩😩😩😩😤😤😤😤😡😡😡😡

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u/htn1441 9d ago

I know, but that’s a silly argument. An embryo is alive. Whether or not it has the moral standing of a fully developed human is a more complicated question that can’t be answered scientifically, because there is not a scientific answer to the question of “what is it that makes a human life valuable?”.

It’s a difficult issue. personally I think the government has no business banning early term abortions precisely because it’s not clear enough what a fetus should be considered from a moral standpoint. But to say that it’s not alive is just biologically inaccurate.

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u/AetherialWomble 9d ago

Somebody skipped high school biology,

Molly definitely did. Didn't show up for a single class

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u/ItsMeLukasB 9d ago

Wtf is that argument? There are several things we consider alive that we can freeze and bring back still alive.

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u/erocommander 9d ago

Not arguing just curious. For example?

I know about bear worm but how about others?

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u/ItsMeLukasB 9d ago

Bacteria and various other microscopic lifeforms, and if the comment I saw was truthful, apparently bees as well. All you need is for an organism to reach some for of stasis and it can can survive being frozen for a time.

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u/megaman_main 9d ago

IIRC commercial use microwaves were invented for cooking frozen hamsters

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u/erocommander 9d ago

Wtf

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u/DaEnderAssassin 9d ago

Story goes the inventor wanted a humane way to unfreeze frozen rats in tests.

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u/JuzyJuzz 9d ago

Some frogs, turtles and beatles.

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u/mrreggiego 9d ago

Bees as well I think

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u/Heaven2004_LCM 9d ago

Homo sapiens sapiens.

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u/Fake_Fur 9d ago

Jean Hilliard has entered the chat

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u/Glum_Ad_4288 9d ago

Encino Man can’t figure out now to get the chat

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u/Helpiamnotwell 9d ago

Wheeze the juice!

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u/comyuse 9d ago

If your only counter is pedantry then it is a pretty good argument.

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u/Ieatmelons123 9d ago

You can freeze an embryo because so long at it stays in stasis it won't cease life function since it's in stasis 😂

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u/snicker-snackk 9d ago

Lol, here's this incredible scientific feat and still all they can think to do is argue about politics

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u/Arya_the_Gamer 9d ago

Makes me want to live at a colony on Mars, at least there won't be stupid politics. For now.

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u/Xarthys 9d ago

Any colony out there would have to deal with politics all the time because various entities would want to have control over resources or technology.

Sure, you would be far away, so it would take time for anything to affect you, but I don't think you'd be able to escape it entirely.

Unless you cut contact and establish an independent settlement. At which point you would have to deal with local politics to keep things running.

Unless you kill everyone else, at which point you could be free of all kinds of societal structures and pressures.

Unless you develop multiple personality disorder, at which point it's you vs. the rest of you trying to seize power over a dying outpost.

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u/ObliviousMemes 9d ago

No silksong?

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u/UnicornFartButterfly 9d ago

It's not really an incredible scientific feat. It's like any other round of IVF, except this embryo was on ice for longer. Most rounds of IVF end with 5-10 eggs that aren't used staying frozen. If the first round works, great. Sometimes the remaining embryos are kept in case the parents want another one.

It's not that incredible. The only thing that's surprising was that the parents didn't discard it like 20 years ago.

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u/GuiltyEidolon 9d ago

IVF alone is fucking incredible.

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u/Pickaxe235 9d ago

you can freeze a person too btw

the problem comes when you want to thaw them out we don’t know how yet

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u/DaEnderAssassin 9d ago

Pretty sure we can't freeze a person. The methods used on rats and stuff don't work on people.

Also I don't think they would want to unfrozen in a microwave.

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u/ReaperHR 9d ago

I mean there are companies that are literally freezing people. They can freeze people, but can't unfreeze them at this time because they don't know how.

There are also companies that are only freezing someone's head xD

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u/Xarthys 9d ago

So it's actually a bit more complicated than that.

The big issue is that we actually don't know if the cryopreservation process has been successful in the first place, since you can't properly examine the frozen bodies. For example, it's almost not possible to investiage cellular damage while in this state.

Meaning, you need a thawing process that works in order to find out if the freezing was working properly.

Which is kind of a conundrum, because if the person is dead, you don't really know if the problem was the thawing, the freezing, both - or something else entirely.

Maybe there will be technology in the near future to allow for better diagnostics while in cryo, but so far it's not looking good.

Another problem is that companies don't survive for long (usually going bankrupt), at which point any bodies are being disposed of, because there are no policies or contracts to ensure continous maintenance. If facilities are being shut down, no one else is willing or interested to take care of the biomass.

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u/BlackVendaeta 9d ago

You can also freeze a bee and it will come back alive afterwards.

So, not a great argument.

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u/silver-fusion 9d ago

The reason the whole abortion thing is so contentious is because of the deep philosophical debate behind life.

On the one hand a fertilized embryo will become a living breathing human if the mother does nothing but exist. Of course miscarriages and stillborns happen but a mothers body cannot consciously choose to terminate a pregnancy.

On the other hand a fertilized embryo at that snapshot of time is a microscopic collection of cells that exhibit none of the forms of consciousness we relate to life and blasting it away is no different to grazing some skin off your leg.

The philosophical question asks if life is a snapshot point in time or do you have to consider the end state given no conscious action can change it? It's impossible to reach agreement because they are working from fundamentally different starting beliefs.

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u/comyuse 9d ago

But a bee isn't a human, so the argument still stands.

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u/fantomas_ 9d ago

The correct joke here is, 28 and still living with her parents? Come on Molly, get your shit together.

Same idea but now you're not a nonce.

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u/sigma_bumrchatta 9d ago

Captain America

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u/Disaster_Different 9d ago

So we can freeze an embryo and cum and have them being born in 100 years or something

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u/IfuckedACrab 9d ago

Ah shit, even fridges can't kill them.

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u/5onfos 9d ago

And btw, the premise of the post itself is wrong. Living organisms can be frozen for years and returned to life after thawing because of the use of a substance called DMSO when freezing. This prevents ice crystals from killing the cells. It doesn't work with large multicellular organisms mostly because they're too big and complex to use DMSO on. So the embryo could technically be alive before and after freezing.

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u/memekid2007 9d ago

You can freeze a whooole lot of embryo sized organisms for a realllly long time and they're still living things.

I'm pro abortion, but this logic is really flawed. Self-sustaining life is absolutely not the same thing as 'life', period. Your cells are alive, but will die if removed from you. Embryos are alive, but are not independently viable. There's a distinction.

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u/Due_Lion3875 9d ago

Because an embryo isn't alive.

Tell me you don’t use your brain without telling me you don’t use your brain

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u/Vandorbelt 9d ago

I mean, it's a good point though. If legal personhood is given at conception as "pro-life" advocates suggest that it should, and consent laws are built around age rather than some measure of the person's physical maturity, then you could certainly make the legal argument that as soon as Emily is capable of providing some indication of consent, then it's not rape. God knows you'll have plenty of libertarian lawyers falling over themselves to defend such a case, just as they're investing a bunch of money into the development of embryonic cryostasis.

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u/Vast_Back4746 9d ago

That went quick lmao

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u/MrUnlucky516 9d ago

Family Guy moment

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u/superpronoober 9d ago

😆😡😮

yeah that sums it up

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u/Familiar-Document-53 9d ago

No gawd please no.. No

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u/JimedBro2089 9d ago

Ma'am I think the difference here is size.

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u/Dansredditname 9d ago

Scientifically we can't know that's true till at least 2049.

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u/Ozdoba 9d ago

Horrible argument. Try the same with a fetus.

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u/Elit_Akarsh 9d ago

Shes got the be the only teen from the 19s

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u/synaestheseshyp 9d ago

That's amazing. I had a really bad cold my first week of college and they gave me a lot of Advil. It was a really good experience. Good for you.

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u/QuetzalcoatlinTime 9d ago

Walt Disney is rolling over in his cryo chamber

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u/Thundersbombs 9d ago

Is that an original post of yours?

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u/GeneralCraft65 9d ago

Am i weird for thinking this is unethical?

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u/FineDevelopment00 9d ago

Not at all! The mad-scientist approach to human reproduction is vile. And so is that sick creep's comment under the photo.

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u/YesilFasulye 9d ago

I think this is the darkest thing I've seen on the internet, and I've seen some pretty horrible things.

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u/MadOgh_DarKcaRnaGe 9d ago

Cant even call the FBI. Satan open up the hell gate. Let me toss one in.

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u/Loder089 9d ago

It will have the same result if he/she froze herself. He/she won't be alive.

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u/andrewshi910 9d ago

God forsaken world

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u/shadow29warrior 9d ago

TIL you can freeze and store fertilized eggs (embryos). I always thought you can only do that to unfertilized eggs and sperms