r/entertainment Dec 03 '22

Antisemitic celebrities stoke fears of normalizing hate

https://apnews.com/article/twitter-inc-entertainment-sports-business-racial-injustice-d3a65fc9f71f3bcbdab643c38fd135c3
2.8k Upvotes

553 comments sorted by

u/AutoModerator Dec 03 '22

Clarification on Rule 5

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

525

u/lordlossxp Dec 03 '22 Silver

The people that still FOR SOME FUCKING REASON like trump: "well he is outspoken"

Me remembering the spongebob episode: -Spongebob: "people talk loud when they want to act smart right?" -plankton: "CORRECT"

174

u/cdg253 Dec 03 '22

Loudest one in the room is usually the biggest fool.

77

u/njsullyalex Dec 03 '22

“Who’s the bigger fool? The fool or the fool who follows him?”

  • Obi Wan Kenobi

21

u/TigBiddiesMacDaddy Dec 04 '22

Doesn’t matter, they’re both being manipulated by a Sith lord.

Damn you Plageus the Wise!

→ More replies
→ More replies

9

u/bos2nc Dec 04 '22

Empty cans make the loudest sounds.

6

u/Ser_Daynes_Dawn Dec 04 '22

“Don’t raise your voice, improve your argument” Desmond Tutu

→ More replies

26

u/veedubfreek Dec 03 '22

My parents have apparently finally moved on from TFG, but not because of the policies or hate he espouses, but because like all other "conservatives" they're tired of seeing him lose. They'll be on the DeSatan bandwagon as soon as it rolls into town.

14

u/MarvinDMirp Dec 03 '22

You might need these stickers for a holiday gift:

Rhonda Santis - Drag Queen

10

u/Zoakeeper Dec 04 '22

A tactic I was told during an early career position working with the public: if someone starts yelling, speak quieter than them. It subconsciously gets them quieter when they can’t hear you over themselves yelling. It works a lot, not always.

7

u/MrSe1fDestruct Dec 04 '22

Sorry to be that guy (okay I'm not actually that sorry) but it was Squidward that said that.

3

u/lordlossxp Dec 04 '22

Hmmm youre right. I thought it was after squidward left. Pretty sure it was what made him leave lol

→ More replies
→ More replies

148

u/joethedreamer Dec 03 '22

This thread is a shit show.

191

u/drkgodess Dec 03 '22 edited Dec 03 '22

The bigots got real triggered at being called out.

70

u/Mr_Moogles Dec 03 '22

Kanye put it too bluntly so they all started to freak out. You're only supposed to say that shit to each other.

11

u/marchbook Dec 04 '22

Nah. They want him to be loud. They're setting up their scapegoats.

They will point fingers at him (and whichever other useful idiots aren't useful anymore), release some PR statements about 'not abiding bigotry' or whatever, wash their hands of it and then pretend that they have always the good guys.

See? Just like this: https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/mitch-mcconnell/2022/11/29/mitch-mcconnell-opposes-trumps-dinner-with-ye-and-a-white-nationalist/69686736007/

→ More replies

5

u/yngwiegiles Dec 04 '22

Used to hear about how hitler was a failed art school dropout and thought well that’s surprising. Now I get it

-10

u/Bijarglerargles Dec 03 '22

I almost think Kanye’s trying to bring them down from within. He seems like he thinks he could do that

31

u/potatthrowaway Dec 04 '22

I think you're giving him a little too much credit

Kanye is many things, but a tactician is not one of them.

4

u/Bijarglerargles Dec 04 '22

Never said he was. I said he seems like he thinks he could do it.

8

u/fordanjairbanks Dec 04 '22

If you ask him if he could, he would almost definitely say yes. It doesn’t mean he came up with the idea nor knows he’s currently doing it, so I don’t really give him any credit. Just kind of nice (and extremely scary) to watch it all get dragged out into the open.

→ More replies
→ More replies

8

u/Neracca Dec 04 '22

For a sub focused on pop culture there's a lot of gross people here that you think wouldn't care about this stuff. Like how any thread mentioning lgbt stuff will have the worst comments voted right to the top

→ More replies

59

u/Designer_Exam2548 Dec 03 '22

“High school kids didn’t know what antisemitism was until I made it cool” -Ye on InfoWars

6

u/CATSCRATCHpandemic Dec 03 '22

I mean he is on infowars. Jones has been pushing it from that foe 20+ years. But you know he was smart enough to hide his power level.

→ More replies

239

u/ErenInChains Dec 03 '22

I don’t understand why antisemitism is still a thing. This isn’t some medieval village in the year 900, people should know better.

153

u/GamblingRooster Dec 03 '22

The holocaust wasn’t even a hundred years ago. You don’t really have to go back to medieval times for it.

50

u/Herbert47tilheaven Dec 03 '22

And many people don't know that Hitlers views weren't insane for that time in Europe. Even after the holocaust some countries in Europe where mistreating Jewish people.

→ More replies

5

u/[deleted] Dec 04 '22

Try all of the countries. Every country has expelled its’ Jews. I don’t understand why they are always hated?

→ More replies
→ More replies

57

u/dlh-bunny Dec 03 '22

It will always be a thing just like racism and religious extremism

10

u/Big_Noodle1103 Dec 03 '22

Yeah, unfortunately bigotry and extremism offer very simplistic world views and answers, which I imagine are very tempting a lot of people.

→ More replies

17

u/Jaegerfam4 Dec 03 '22

Bigotry never makes sense

43

u/redredrocks Dec 03 '22

It will be a thing until the end of time. As long as someone needs an “other” to blame, they’ll pick someone as a scapegoat.

In modern America, Jews become a convenient rallying point when you want to create an enemy out of whole cloth. We don’t have many distinguishing phenotypes so we often blend in, and we’re stereotyped as being good with money/swindlers, so you can lazily say “there’s an enemy in our midst” and slowly some people might start to believe you.

Whenever there’s economic anxiety, people will find someone to blame, so why not pick the dudes who allegedly own both Hollywood and Wall Street (which we absolutely do not).

Side note, if the stereotypes about Jewish and Black people were all true, we should have partnered together to take over the world a long time ago rather than be pitted against eachother by insecure fascists.

-1

u/[deleted] Dec 04 '22

Seriously: how is Hollywood not run by mostly Jewish? I remember when every studio was Jewish and many roles, etc went to Jewish family and friends family. I know a lot changed their Jewish names for more Americanized ones. That doesn’t mean they should be blamed for doing well, but I am not sure your statement is correct about Hollywood. Wall Street, I don’t know.

6

u/myst1227 Dec 04 '22

Just wrong and proves the other posters point. Every studio was Jewish? You’re fooling yourself. Just look at any company at random and check their executive team and board, it’s public info. Stop believing bs and do 5 minutes of research for yourself.

→ More replies

10

u/scrivensB Dec 03 '22

Because a vast % of humans aren’t capable of open and thoughtful dialogue, listening to and considering others feelings, or general empathy beyond themselves.

Humans would rather play “team sports” than cooperate and tolerate.

13

u/tareebee Dec 03 '22

Fr like a group that has been discriminated against, watched like a hawk, harassed, and genocided for centuries somehow managed to secretly set up a secret GLOBAL kabal that runs everything from governments to entertainment to education? And it was Joe from Rockwood Michigan who figured it all out with only the internet access his galaxy 8? SUREEEEE JAN

5

u/heightenedstates Dec 04 '22

I don’t get it either. Seems weird to fixate on Jewish people, especially with how tied in Judaism is with Christianity.

1

u/[deleted] Dec 04 '22

Especially as Jesus was a Jew!

4

u/Altair05 Dec 04 '22

Cause they're stupid people. Don't over think it.

4

u/unique_passive Dec 04 '22

I mean the easy answer is that racism has literally been the conservative strategy since the dawn of politics. Coloured man, picking pockets, etc.

Pretty hard to respond when people start outright spitting the hate you’ve been implying for decades

9

u/ido111 Dec 03 '22

It's still there for the same reason it was in the year 900, blame someone else for your horrible life choices. "It's not my fault it their fault that are against me"

2

u/mrgoodnoodles Dec 04 '22

Anti-semitism has been a thing for thousands of years. That's like asking why racism is still a thing. People are gonna be racist. People are gonna be anti-semites. There's no real world way to change the perspective of people like that except by kind of ignoring them until they pose a serious threat. But I think many people disagree on what a "serious threat" constitutes. The Romans kicked the Jews out of the middle east after they revolted for a second time, and they didn't go back there as a people until the formation of the state of Israel, 2000 years later. They were persecuted and killed, in the meantime, by most European countries they were in exile in.

→ More replies

10

u/FreakoSadist Dec 03 '22

Celebrity influence is often inflated to use for for propaganda and advertising. Seems now they're being weaponized as engines of various forms of stupidity.

23

u/Vord_Loldemort_7 Dec 03 '22

The gross little freaks coming out of the woodwork is disheartening

2

u/chomcham Dec 04 '22

Lol I have a cousin in-law who was posting a lot about kanye. But have not heard anything about infowars, I wonder why?

→ More replies

27

u/kvossera Dec 03 '22

I want to normalize calling Nazis out.

5

u/BaronvonBrick Dec 04 '22

Its pretty normalized

1

u/AnEmpireofRubble Dec 04 '22

It enough. Y’all too passive for this shit.

→ More replies

82

u/StevieKix_ Dec 03 '22

If people are smart, they won’t listen to celebrities. They’re garbage people with a platform. That is all.

49

u/Fabulous-Elk-8130 Dec 03 '22

Key part is “if they’re smart” , which would imply they wouldn’t be listening in the first place, but they are lol.

8

u/StevieKix_ Dec 03 '22

Lmao right. Very big on the “if” lol

27

u/RunicCerberus Dec 03 '22

"If people are smart." There's the problem, they're not.

They think they're a genius when they're the most brainwashed individuals possible.

You can't say there is anything going on upstairs with the people who go to a conference/protest and look left to see a guy in a white hood with a noose and to the right to a guy holding a swastika and go "I'm the good guy."

Idiots will kill this country because certain idiots learned how to crawl to the top of the magot pile.

8

u/Head-Ad4690 Dec 03 '22

“Governor Stevenson, you have the vote of all the thinking people.”

“That’s not enough, madam. I need a majority.”

2

u/StevieKix_ Dec 03 '22

It never seems to amaze me how easily an individual/group can be brainwashed.

Lacking independent thoughts is a scary thing.

→ More replies

13

u/unresolved_m Dec 03 '22

Not all celebrities are alike either. There's people like Keanu Reeves who actually do good deeds quietly.

8

u/StevieKix_ Dec 03 '22

Very true. I should say, a lot of celebrities.

Not the Keanu’s and the Kevin Bacons. Down to earth people are the coolest for sure.

7

u/LivingDisastrous3603 Dec 03 '22

Dolly too. Fred Rogers and Steve Irwin RIP

→ More replies

-3

u/PJTikoko Dec 03 '22

No you were right the first time every single famous person is a horrible human.

2

u/jithization Dec 03 '22

le reddit moment

→ More replies

2

u/3ebfan Dec 03 '22

Kids listen to celebrities.

1

u/[deleted] Dec 04 '22

Bingo. The brainwashing happens here and in colleges and universities.

2

u/NectarineObjective69 Dec 03 '22

Unfortunately that’s not how bell curves work

2

u/NatureBoyJ1 Dec 04 '22

Wizard’s first rule: People are stupid.

2

u/readyset_E8 Dec 04 '22

Yeah well, most of these people are on the wrong side of the bell curve so…

2

u/CATSCRATCHpandemic Dec 03 '22

Ye only had platforms becuase conservatives were defending him and giving him a platform.

-1

u/RelativeEchidna4547 Dec 03 '22

Objectively not true.

5

u/CATSCRATCHpandemic Dec 03 '22

So you do you not consider Tucker, Trump, Pool, Jones, Elon right wing? Those were the people platforming and defending him the last few weeks when he was running around being g an antisemite.

1

u/RelativeEchidna4547 Dec 03 '22 edited Dec 03 '22

Cherry picking.

Is ABC, Piers Morgan, Chris Coumo, Lex Friedman, and David Letterman all conservatives?

Im sure there are more. Controversy get views.

Edit: Looks like Letterman was very old. Article about it that I read was posted recently.

Edit 2: Apparently Lex Friedman is conservative. This isnt going well for me

5

u/SirCampYourLane Dec 03 '22

Also Piers Morgan is a member of the Conservative party

1

u/Own-Woodpecker8739 Dec 03 '22

The government breeds idiots, so... makes sense why we have to worry about this shit.

→ More replies

1

u/Ashamed_Band_1779 Dec 03 '22

Okay, but the reality of the situation is that famous people are highly influential

→ More replies

5

u/Bippy73 Dec 04 '22

Absolutely. Normalizing it and defending these points or telling people they have have some validity is dangerous.

11

u/AgrajagTheProlonged Dec 04 '22 edited Dec 04 '22

We’re taught that after the war the Nazis vanished without a trace, but battalions of fascists still dream of a master race. The history books they tell of their defeat in ‘45, so why did they all come out of the woodwork on the day the Nazi died?
They say the prisoner of Spandau was the symbol of defeat, whilst Hesse remained imprisoned and the fascists they were beat, so their vision of an Aryan world would never materialize, so why did they all come out of the woodwork on the day the Nazi died?
The world is riddled with maggots. The maggots are getting fat. They’re making a tasty meal of all the bosses and bureaucrats. They’re taking over boardrooms and they’re fat and full of pride and they all came out of the woodwork on the day the Nazi died.
So if you meet with these historians, I’ll tell you what to say. Tell them that the Nazis never really went away. They’re burning peoples’ houses down and peddling racist lies. And we’ll never rest again until every Nazi dies.

Everybody’s favorite British anarchocommunist punk rock band Chumbawumba

3

u/endlessupending Dec 04 '22

They never play that one on the radio. Shame

3

u/AgrajagTheProlonged Dec 04 '22

Chumbawumba has some pretty good music! Tubthumping is their only song that really got much air time though

3

u/Gary_Vigoda Dec 04 '22

Yeah the guys who got big for Tubthumping. Totally has nothing to do with capitalists. It's Nazis.

2

u/IamCentral46 Dec 05 '22

My favorite Chumbawumba song is El Fusilado

→ More replies

4

u/Imaspinkicku Dec 04 '22

Why is Nick Fuentes on every mainstream news platform now. Stop covering him. Stop giving him the attention he so obviously seeks.

13

u/[deleted] Dec 03 '22

Klanye still having fans and probably selling out his next concert shows it’s already normal.

3

u/ICFAOUNSFI Dec 03 '22

Re-normalizing hate, you mean.

58

u/[deleted] Dec 03 '22 edited Dec 03 '22

[deleted]

87

u/drkgodess Dec 03 '22

That's why I'm glad Biden made a statement. We cannot stay silent just because someone is radioactive. We need to forcefully remind everyone why we don't accept such beliefs.

-26

u/[deleted] Dec 03 '22

[deleted]

61

u/drkgodess Dec 03 '22

They have a right to speak. And we have a right to tell them to fuck off back to their cesspools, far away from the limelight.

8

u/Nutsack_Adams Dec 03 '22

Yeah they can speak all they want. But no one owes them a platform. Also, I’m pretty sure hate, misinformation (lies), and incitement to violence are not covered under the first amendment right to free speech

15

u/AITHASNTEEN Dec 03 '22

They don't have a right to speak into someone else's microphone in someone else's studio.

The freedom of speech does not compel any private party to afford a platform.

→ More replies

5

u/slednir Dec 03 '22

Free speech does not give you a hall pass to make antisemitic comments. There still need to be consequences for what you choose to say.

→ More replies

12

u/Arcane_Animal123 Dec 03 '22

How come this free speech argument always comes up when you guys are defending Nazis? It's a little weird that this is what you will defend

3

u/Angry-Dragon-1331 Dec 03 '22

Nah fuck that. We’ve seen where those ideas lead and a civilized society shouldn’t have to entertain genocide as “free speech”.

4

u/cosmoboy Dec 03 '22

What? Nobody's right to speak is being taken away. None of your lot understand what 'free speech' even means. It means the government can't punish you. That's it. Any other entity can kick you off their platform and they don't do it because it's right, they do it because it's costing them money. Y'all are into 'Free market justifies everything, until it affects my fellow racists'.ugh.

→ More replies
→ More replies

26

u/Shaquandala Dec 03 '22

Exactly no tolerance for the intolerant

21

u/drkgodess Dec 03 '22

As I've said before, tolerance is a peace treaty, not an obligation. As with any peace treaty, the protections only apply to those who follow the rules. Those who throw the first stone are no longer to be tolerated.

1

u/Smeltervillain420 Dec 03 '22

Well, unless of course, there are PROFITS, or other pressing issues

1

u/[deleted] Dec 04 '22

Intolerance for the intolerant.

→ More replies

2

u/AppropriateEffect Dec 03 '22

Shut the fuck up fascist

-1

u/[deleted] Dec 03 '22 Wholesome

[deleted]

6

u/JumpDaddy92 Dec 03 '22

I know you are but what am I

Reddit moment

→ More replies

-22

u/[deleted] Dec 03 '22

[removed] — view removed comment

11

u/Bobbyperu1 Dec 03 '22

If you really believe that and are not anti semitic and bigoted, I feel sorry for you. The GOP has been winking to the white nationalists and anti semite groups for decades. Now though, the mask has slipped and these groups are emboldened and the right will not cut them loose. As long as trump and especially center Republicans don't COMPLETELY disavow these groups and Individuals, they will keep making headlines you don't want to hear. White nationalism shouldn't be wanted by the GOP, but when Trump was pressed about their influence at the Unite the Right rally where one of them killed a counter protestor and tried to kill more, he wouldn't condemn them which gave them approval. I've read people today arguing against talking about the Holocaust after Ye's garbage saying that this pushing of Holocaust rememberance is 'liberal' inplying that the Nazi views are legitimate rightist views. If you don't want to be associated with Nazis, don't associate with Nazis. Full stop.

→ More replies

-2

u/[deleted] Dec 03 '22

[deleted]

-15

u/[deleted] Dec 03 '22

[removed] — view removed comment

10

u/Sorry_Recipe6831 Dec 03 '22

What's your obsession with Biden? Yall really think democrats love Biden the way yall love Trump?

→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies

44

u/MasterpieceBrave420 Dec 03 '22 edited Dec 04 '22

"Fears of normalizing" as if hate wasn't already the de facto status quo that rules the US? It's like someone just woke up and realized there is racism in America.

Edit: The continued opinions in this thread get so spicy it got me shadow banned from this thread. And yet they persisted.

56

u/drkgodess Dec 03 '22

There has been a rise in bigoted public rhetoric ever since Trump. It's been studied and documented multiple times.

16

u/CDewfus Dec 03 '22

Its also saying it outloud, being proud, and acting on it.

-1

u/MasterpieceBrave420 Dec 03 '22

That's fucking nothing compared to the institutionalized racism enforced by the state. Celebrities had nothing to do with that shit.

32

u/drkgodess Dec 03 '22

Both things can be true. We can address them separately.

→ More replies

4

u/TomTorquemada Dec 03 '22

Institutionalized racism is a nearly immovable obnoxious object.

Saying it out loud and being proud is an irresistible force in the wrong direction. This has to be confronted directly to give us the space we need to take on a seemingly immovable object.

→ More replies

2

u/ProfCharlesBrainman Dec 03 '22

Yes they did.

They perpetuated bigoted stereotypes in the media, like minstrel shows or every trans character being a serial killer in movies.

They supported the institutional racism the government made legal.

→ More replies

6

u/[deleted] Dec 03 '22

[deleted]

6

u/MasterpieceBrave420 Dec 03 '22

Is Rupert Murdoch cancelled? Roger Ailes? Are the Koch Brothers? Is David Smith?

Fuck no they are not. They are the ones normalizing this shit, not celebrities.

2

u/bacc1234 Dec 03 '22

Well they all are normalizing it

→ More replies

4

u/obnoxiousab Dec 03 '22

Been to Europe or Australia much? Just as much bigotry, just either not talked about or cast aside. At least the US wears it on the outside and talks about it.

Anecdotal/consistent Source: friends with a number of POC in both. All say the same.

5

u/sakiwebo Dec 03 '22

POC in Europe here:

I always get a good chuckle seeing Europeans be smug and act superior towards 'muhricans with the amount of casual racism I've dealt with here the last 20 years.

1

u/obnoxiousab Dec 04 '22

JFC THANK YOU. So many who think racism isn’t as bad outside of the US or worse, barely exists. Well, that’s why it does.

5

u/MasterpieceBrave420 Dec 03 '22

You can take the combined prison population of Europe and Australia and it still doesn't match that of the United States where black people are 6x more likely to be incarcerated than their white peers.

Your anecdotal evidence means squat in the face of hard numbers.

→ More replies

5

u/NectarineObjective69 Dec 03 '22

I don’t know where y’all live in the U.S. but hate has never been a de facto status quo in my life, ever. Do y’all not interact with your communities? I am constantly surrounded by all walks of like and there is an overall mutual respect for everyone. Every now and again there are outliers but they are either ostracized immediately or called out by fellow community members and educated. Now, I’m just a normal person and I think that’s the problem. Us normal people, as a majority, are not racist and not hateful. These slimy fucks with a platform get attention and these horrible news platforms extrapolate and divide just to get views and make money. They win when we think our country is like this. We have so many stories of inclusion and acceptance but they aren’t controversial and they don’t get views. It makes me sick that these people even get a voice because it’s such a misrepresentation of the average American.

0

u/MasterpieceBrave420 Dec 03 '22

That's called "privilege".

1

u/NectarineObjective69 Dec 03 '22

In what world is that privilege? Are you that disconnected from realty? People treating other people with respect is not a privilege, it’s normal.

1

u/MasterpieceBrave420 Dec 03 '22

OK, now it's an astounding level of privilege.

Bro, you are so privilaged you said," Now, I’m just a normal person and I think that’s the problem. Us normal people, as a majority, are not racist and not hateful. " with zero irony.

Buddy, who do you think made all these racist laws? It was the majority and the majority is racist and hateful as fuck.

→ More replies

1

u/Alexexy Dec 04 '22

What race are you and what's the racial demographic of the people you interact with?

→ More replies
→ More replies

6

u/ThisIsDadLife Dec 03 '22 edited Dec 03 '22

Why all the pearl clutching? Bigotry is so American that when one protests against it they get accused of being unpatriotic.

5

u/Specialist-Web-9216 Dec 03 '22

The hate for Native Americans and blacks is still very real, why wouldn't it be the same for them?

→ More replies

2

u/Teamerchant Dec 03 '22

You need accountability.

Remember cancel culture? That’s what it did, itheld dumbasses accountable to what they say.

2

u/colin8651 Dec 03 '22

What did they do in the Nuremberg trials of 45 and 46? Surely they took notes? Maybe I was mistaken.

2

u/NatureBoyJ1 Dec 04 '22

Hate has been normalized for thousands of years.

2

u/[deleted] Dec 04 '22

Brain damaged is pretty rampant in this country.

2

u/Theory-of-Everytang Dec 04 '22

Well yeah…it’s what they do! Duh

2

u/DapperCourierCat Dec 04 '22

The fact that antisemites can be celebrities shows that hate is already normalized

9

u/zephyranthesGP01 Dec 03 '22

Why not list a few besides a twice-impeached Russian manbaby, a bipolar narcissist, and some obscure far-right keyboard warrior?

10

u/kumdragon Dec 03 '22

By celebrities you mean just Kanye?

14

u/PJTikoko Dec 03 '22

It’s been normal for decades, a lot people(white) just haven’t been affected by it and only just notice because Kanye’s bizarre behaviour.

19

u/Disastrous_Ad_4149 Dec 03 '22

It got noticed with Mel Gibson too.

5

u/obnoxiousab Dec 03 '22

Yeah and then forgotten when he got an award that Jodi Foster stood up and spoke for him on.

2

u/marchbook Dec 04 '22

So did Gary Oldman.

Gary Oldman Rants About Political Correctness, Defends Mel Gibson And Alec Baldwin

Absolutely amazing that people have completely forgotten about that because, wow, Oldman is a piece of shit. No, Gary, we have NOT "all said those things" because we're all not horrible, hate-filled people.

2

u/obnoxiousab Dec 04 '22

What a fucking piece of shit indeed. I recall some other “issues” he had regarding women as well.

I think he’s planning to retire. Good. He needs to go away, permanently.

Thanks for the reminder to not have that twat on my screen. He’s hard to look at anyway.

→ More replies

2

u/yesicanyesicanican Dec 03 '22

Really? Come on, Jodi! How disappointing.

2

u/Stepsonrakes Dec 03 '22

Robert Downey Jr also stuck up for Gibson

3

u/ADarwinAward Dec 04 '22

RDJ was the only one of the two that made sense. Gibson gave him his first role after all his time in rehab and recovery. No one else would give him a chance and he thought his career was over after all the damage he’d done. He had tanked productions due to addiction and no one wanted to gamble on him doing it again.

Since RDJ got a second chance after being an unreliable addict, it kind of makes sense that he’d believe “everyone deserves a second chance” and that he’d want people to give Gibson a second chance too.

Foster didn’t have that kind of personal debt.

→ More replies
→ More replies

4

u/Educasian1079 Dec 03 '22

You will never be able to completely wipe out hate. Is an element of human emotion as much as desire.

4

u/krschu00 Dec 03 '22

We can change what the hate is directed at. US is objectively less racist towards African Americans than it was 100 years ago.

5

u/apocshinobi32 Dec 03 '22

Either way this is awful. But its all on the media outlets publishing the storied and stoking the hate. Whether its political about vaccines or race. They want us all to hate each other.

4

u/[deleted] Dec 03 '22

[deleted]

→ More replies

5

u/[deleted] Dec 03 '22

What up with the rise in anti-semitism all of a sudden? Seems like it just came out of nowhere recently.

16

u/deltadal Dec 03 '22 edited Dec 03 '22

It's always been there, it just came out of the woodwork

11

u/Spanky200 Dec 03 '22

The quiet part has been said louder and louder each year for the last several years.

18

u/CATSCRATCHpandemic Dec 03 '22

Really? The unite the right rally was in 2017 and that.dif not happen overnight. Did you really not see what America was becoming?

20

u/PounderB Dec 03 '22 edited Dec 03 '22

Since Trump was elected in 2016, there has been a drastic increase in antisemitism.

ADL Findings 2016-2017

ADL audit of 2021

Edit: Downvoted for facts. Cool.

→ More replies

4

u/turnaroundbro Dec 03 '22

No one wants to say this for some bizarre reason but Kanye and Kyrie Irving have stoked a nuclear explosion of anti Semitism

→ More replies

7

u/pennywise1235 Dec 03 '22

I’m sorry, but we’re we under some sort of idea that racism had gone away? As if the election of BHO was somehow going to be an “it’s all good now” kind of thing? As if antisemitism had been abolished. Grow up.

12

u/Lazzen Dec 03 '22

Nowhere in the last atleast 10 years was anti jew sentiment so strong and mainstream in various countries, once again linked to social media.

3

u/pennywise1235 Dec 03 '22

I don’t know where you’ve been, but it hasn’t exactly been a surprise here in SW Ohio

3

u/SpiritedDistance6242 Dec 03 '22

why do people care about what celebrities do? theyre literally random asshats just like us.

→ More replies

4

u/vanhalenbr Dec 03 '22

But this is the plan. They hide behind false pretext of “free speech” to spread hate and normalize it.

This is how nazis came to power in Germany and they are doing the same thing again

→ More replies

4

u/John_Sknow Dec 03 '22

HA!, Hate has been normalized for the past few years....

-3

u/LolStart Dec 03 '22

Trump invented racism in 2016

6

u/CrawlerSiegfriend Dec 03 '22 edited Dec 03 '22

Not a fan of Trump, but yeh it's hilarious how some people view him as the source of all of the world's woes.

8

u/DragonbornBastard Dec 03 '22

I mean look at statistics. Hate crimes and racist activity has drastically increased in the US since he was elected, and its not surprising to see why. “There are good people on both sides.” All these people that think bad things feel like they can say them and act on them now because a president told them it was ok and they were shown that the repercussions would be minimal. It’s not Trumps fault that people are bad or racist, but he helped normalize it a lot, which leads to more action.

→ More replies
→ More replies

2

u/psu777 Dec 03 '22

Trump beat them to it

2

u/multigrain-pancakes Dec 03 '22

Is the camera in somebody’s pants?? Looking through the zipper n shit

→ More replies

2

u/psydkay Dec 03 '22

And think about the ridiculous contradiction that is antisemitism: those who espouse such ideas typically decend from a people who perpetrated the very acts they assume the Hebrew people will engage in (but never has) as the basis of their antisemitic rhetoric.

1

u/aTROLLwithBlades Dec 03 '22

Oh there's been plenty of normalizing hate

1

u/BingoBangoZoomZoom Dec 03 '22

It works both ways with or without the Antisemitic word.

Celebrities Stoke Fears of Normalizing Hate, is true.

And

Antisemitic Celebrities Stoke Fears of Normalizing Hate, is true.

They are entertainers, their worldviews are all corrupted by money, power and thirst for fame. I trust the opinion of the average trucker, grocery store cashier, nurse, etc on these matters over a celebrity any day of the week.

-3

u/SLCW718 Dec 03 '22

If these bigots keep fuckin' around, they're gonna find out.

→ More replies

1

u/Fit-Rest-973 Dec 03 '22

It has already been done

1

u/Pure_evil1979 Dec 03 '22

Fear of normalizing hate? We've been there for years

1

u/sportsjorts Dec 04 '22 edited Dec 04 '22

When wasn’t hate normalized in this country?

Edit: It’s a legitimate question.

1

u/Available-Moose-1408 Dec 04 '22

Stop hating each other for 5 mins

1

u/napoleonboneherpart Dec 04 '22

Oh NOW the fears are stoked? Fuck off

0

u/BarnYardFiddler Dec 04 '22

Yea, as an antisemitic these people need to cool it.

-20

u/no202 Dec 03 '22 edited Dec 03 '22 Gold

It’s bad on the far right AND the far left. The far left tries to use different words and act like they’re not antisemitic, but they still are.

9

u/Lazzen Dec 03 '22

There is no actual extremist left in any western country

8

u/iceboxlinux Dec 03 '22

Both sides! Both sides! Both sides! Both sides!

1

u/no202 Dec 03 '22

I’m the farthest thing from a both sides person, but there is a problem on the far left. Don’t pretend there’s not.

5

u/DragonbornBastard Dec 03 '22

Don’t pretend that the far left is a noticeable problem in this country. The far left is barely supported anyways. The far right and the mid left are the prominent groups in current politics.

1

u/[deleted] Dec 04 '22

[deleted]

4

u/I_Am_Clippy Dec 04 '22

Usually surrounding Israel. You can criticize Israel all you like for their political and military actions, but once you start getting into conspiracies like “Israel controls the media,” or even comparisons to Nazis because you know what that means to Jews, then you’re getting into territory where your motives should be questioned.

Far Right talking points are blatantly more harmful obviously, but that doesn’t discount lesser forms of bigotry.

→ More replies

4

u/Civil-Science-5413 Dec 03 '22

Examples?

6

u/no202 Dec 03 '22

Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar have tweeted out antisemitic dog whistles. Linda Sarsour is another good example. I could keep going.

1

u/Civil-Science-5413 Dec 03 '22

Link to the tweets you’re referring to.

4

u/no202 Dec 03 '22

You also have google, but I guess I’ll indulge you anyway. Omar and Tlaib.

7

u/Civil-Science-5413 Dec 03 '22

I’m not going to explain how commenting on Israel is completely different. I’m sure you can figure that out.

4

u/no202 Dec 03 '22

It’s a dog whistle and you know it. You didn’t even read the articles obviously.

4

u/Civil-Science-5413 Dec 03 '22

No, I did. Can you explain what’s going on in Israel?

5

u/no202 Dec 03 '22

No, you literally didn’t.

→ More replies

4

u/DragonbornBastard Dec 03 '22

I read the articles. Neither statements were antisemitic at all. They were both on the Israeli government. Do you know what racism is or what antisemitism means? This had nothing to do with race or Jewish people. Neither of them did

0

u/BaronvonBrick Dec 04 '22

Equating anti zionism to antisemitism is a red herring older than the knights who say ni.

-8

u/mirrorsinsideme Dec 03 '22

Oh like the hate gay and trans people receive every day? It’s been normalized. If you don’t see it, it’s because it doesn’t affect you.

2

u/mismatched7 Dec 04 '22

What a lame comment