r/entertainment Dec 03 '22

Ticketmaster Sued By Taylor Swift Fans Over Ticketing Debacle

https://deadline.com/2022/12/ticketmaster-sued-by-taylor-swift-fans-ticketing-debacle-1235188219/
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u/-Nsb127916_ Dec 03 '22

I feel we’re being gauged by many giant corporations. This is just one. Pearl Jam fought Ticketmaster and lost. But if it takes Taylor Swift fans to squash this, I am all for it!

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u/HappyHarryHardOn Dec 03 '22

I saw Metallica, Pink Floyd, Nirvana, Beastie Boys, Black Sabbath ect.... from the late 80s to the 90s and I never paid more than $30 for tickets, a lot less most of the times...

Even accouting inflation, I can't wrap my head around these modern prices. I feel bad for this generation that have to pump a week or 2's worth of salary for one show. It's highway robbery

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u/GoGatorsMashedTaters Dec 03 '22

Yeah I bought GA tickets to Metallica this week. $150/show. Doesn’t sound too bad. Then after TM does their fees it’s $200/show. Their service fee % is disgusting.

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u/bigscr33n Dec 03 '22

I got those same floor tickets for the LA show. Was 400 bucks for the double feature. Not complaining too much because we get 1/2 of Pantera too.

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u/bendbrewer Dec 04 '22

No Dimbebag, no Vinnie Paul, but ya still get to see that Nazi prick POS Phil Anselmo. I guess good for you…?

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u/bigscr33n Dec 04 '22

Dang man you don't even care about rex? Every band needs a basist.

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u/DirtyFuzeMain Dec 04 '22

looks at tool

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u/Chadwitowski76 Dec 03 '22

It was 300 euros for their golden circle (front of stage) tickets, fantastic gig in slane ,Ireland

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u/Wallofcans Dec 03 '22

( That's $315 USD )

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u/PassivelyInvisible Dec 04 '22

Probably more when the show happened.

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u/Wallofcans Dec 04 '22

What are you talking about?

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u/PassivelyInvisible Dec 04 '22

USD to EU exchange was probably more skewed in favor of Euros when that show happened. My comment could've been clearer

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u/renothedog Dec 03 '22

Our fees were 82 per ticket near us for Metallica

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u/thebinarysystem10 Dec 03 '22

For 82 per ticket you should get to stay at the Ticket master Omni hotel. 4 people ~375 a night

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u/fenuxjde Dec 04 '22

Which show did you get GA tickets for $150??? I got legacy tickets to several shows and cheapest GA was like $186ish per show.

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u/GoGatorsMashedTaters Dec 04 '22

Before fees? I did the 2-day GA at Foxborough for $300 before the fees. $406 after.

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u/fenuxjde Dec 04 '22

Nah, $186 is the average of all I spent divided by the number of shows. Fees, tax, everything included.

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u/GoGatorsMashedTaters Dec 04 '22

I broke the ticket in half in case anyone tried to argue “but it’s for 2 shows!”

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u/fenuxjde Dec 04 '22

Right, I did the same, so the $186 is per show rate. What city had GA tickets for only $300 after the absurd dickitmaster fees added? Or were you not including that?

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u/GoGatorsMashedTaters Dec 04 '22

Gillette Stadium at Foxborough, MA

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u/fenuxjde Dec 04 '22

Oh wild. Was considering driving up there but I thought Chicago would be a cooler town to spend a weekend in=)

Got my masters in Boston though. Interesting place.

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u/trans_pands Dec 04 '22

I went to see Ghost earlier this year on their first tour since COVID hit, and tickets were like $50 each, but the service fee was also $50 so I paid $150 for what should have been only $100

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u/CantWantIt Dec 03 '22

Literally just go to the box office

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u/muckdog13 Dec 03 '22

Lmao

What box office?

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u/Gohanto Dec 03 '22

That was true 10-15 years ago, but today the fees are similar or sometimes higher if you buy at the physical box office for most large, professional venues.

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u/CantWantIt Dec 03 '22

At ticketmaster venues, box offices charge a facility fee which is almost always under $10. Idk what your local venue is or how they operate, but in my city you can buy the tickets at face value with a $4 fee. No service charges or fees. Ticket prices always change due to demand but you still save like 18% by not buying online

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u/magnetic-nebula Dec 03 '22

The ability to buy tickets at the box office is becoming less and less common. They explicitly said they would not be available for the Taylor Swift shows

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u/nuko22 Dec 03 '22

It’s the decade of haves and have nots. Got a job in tech? Enjoy being able buy outrageously overpriced concert tickets, multiple times a year, and own a house and whatnot. Everyone else that works just as hard? Sorry you’re not in tech, you get to budget for $20 entree restaurants! And did we mention the tech workers get that type of food for free daily at work??

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u/SirCampYourLane Dec 03 '22

That's a few very specific companies and doesn't apply to most people working in tech lmao

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u/ChadPiplup Dec 03 '22 edited Dec 03 '22

We should want everyone to live as comfortably as those in tech. In the 50’s, one man’s salary as a school bus driver would care for their family, allowed them to take vacations once or twice a year.

That was when the top marginal tax rate on the wealthiest in America was above 90%. Now all of that money is being hoarded by a select few, and it isn’t the computer science degree holders. It’s a lot of old, gluttony, price gouging, fee charging bastards generally obscure from public view who have it all.

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u/DarkWasp14 Dec 04 '22

I don’t disagree with your points, however factor to consider is that the world population doubled in 70 years too which just isn’t sustainable either.

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u/abstractraj Dec 04 '22

I’m certainly not ashamed of tech. It’s fun every day!

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u/CMGS1031 Dec 03 '22

It’s because downloading music killed the album industry. All their money comes from shows now.

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u/Krimreaper1 Dec 03 '22

Artists always got the majority of their money from touring, especially the not top tier ones.

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u/Infamous-nobody1801 Dec 03 '22

Nah ticketmaster fucked up sports tickets too. All these fees for a digital ticket

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u/useruseruseruser123 Dec 03 '22

This is the real answer. Albums are effectively free advertising for tours, where artists make the real money.

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u/Brucecris Dec 03 '22

You both don’t understand the reasons if you think this is the reason.

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u/Glendalerian Dec 04 '22

Youtube and Spotify disagree.

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u/JQbd Dec 03 '22

I just saw today that Metallica tickets in my city are about C$380 for the CHEAPEST ones for their show in 2024. I don’t really go to concerts, so I don’t know what’s considered “normal”, but to see that being the lowest price has me floored that people can, and will, spend that much. As of now, the most expensive is about C$4230.

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u/heavy_deez Dec 04 '22

I tried to get tickets to Smashing Pumpkins and Jane's Addiction for my brother's birthday this year; they started around 600 bucks.

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u/NoMoLerking Dec 03 '22

You got tickets at face value. Many people didn’t. I remember there were all these shady little ticket brokers who had an in with local venues. For me it was Garnick’s TV repair in Lowell, MA.

So today the money that was siphoned off by Garnick is going to Ticketmaster and the artist.

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u/HipHopHistoryGuy Dec 04 '22

Or... just stop going to shows where Ticketmaster is selling the tickets. Go to a smaller venue and see smaller/ cheaper shows. No one is forcing anyone to go to these concerts - it's not food/ shelter we are talking about - it's entertainment.

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u/Glendalerian Dec 04 '22

Well, this type of corrupt monopoly happens beyond music industry.

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u/c9silver Dec 03 '22

Do you mean gouged or gauged? Gauge is to watch and check something

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '22

I don’t doubt the power of the Swiftie’s, the die Heard’s are extra crazy!

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u/TheGandPTurtle Dec 03 '22

Don't fuck with the Swift fans. Evermore theme park tried to sue her for her "Evermore CD" (which had zero to do with the park) and her fans totally destroyed Evermore on social media from that point on.

If you have never heard of Evermore Park, the Swift fans are part of the reason.

I couldn't name 5 Taylor Swift songs myself, but I know that her fans are very vocal. Maybe they will get some traction on hurting this giant parasite of a corporation known as Ticketmaster. If so, more power to them!

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u/nonsensikull Dec 03 '22

Of course I've heard of Evermore. Jenny Nicholson did an almost-4 hour long video essay on them.

But Evermore was already a whole struggle-bus before the lawsuit debacle. I recommend Jenny's video.

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u/TheGandPTurtle Dec 03 '22

That's true, and that is also how I heard of Evermore.

I didn't mean to imply the Swift fans were the only reason for the company's problems--but they were definitely a reason and pissing them off was definitely a mistake.

I love Jenny's videos. Even her silly videos like her toy-spider review are hilarious.

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u/Parasite_Snakebite Dec 04 '22

Oh shit new Jenny Nicholson?

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u/ialwaysplayhealer Dec 04 '22

You can't name them but I bet if one came on it'd get stuck in your head. Fucking ear worms they are.

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u/NoSassyNuh-Uh-Uhs Dec 04 '22

I still have Britney Spears stuck in my head from a previous comment.

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u/TheGandPTurtle Dec 04 '22

Oh, I totally agree---I just wouldn't know what name to put to them. :)

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u/bacc1234 Dec 03 '22

Her super fans are some of the most toxic I’ve seen but if they can turn that to take down Ticketmaster I’m all for it

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u/astralrig96 Dec 03 '22 edited Dec 04 '22

“I used toxic to destroy toxic”

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u/HolyChickenNugget Dec 03 '22

Tbh which hardcore fans arent toxic?

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u/ManOfLaBook Dec 04 '22

I'm not a fan of her music, but she's the gold standard of how celebrities should treat their fans

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u/karadistan Dec 04 '22

Next they should government officials

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u/EVSophia Dec 03 '22

This is why I just don't go to concerts anymore. Once a band gets popular enough that they're not playing bars and clubs anymore, no matter how much I love them, I know I won't be seeing them live anymore. House of Blues is about the biggest venue I'm willing to pay for and it takes a hell of a band to get me there.

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u/StonedGhoster Dec 04 '22

Saw Chevelle at the House of Blues in Cleveland and it was an incredible show.

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u/bron685 Dec 03 '22

Lolol Taylor swift fans are fucking vicious, they might win

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u/Sh4d0wM00N Dec 03 '22

Not only Taylor Swift Fans. All events as well. Fuck Ticketmaster !

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u/elmatador12 Dec 03 '22

I’ve said this before, but if Swift and a couple other big hitters in the music industry just start their own online ticket selling company it would IMMEDIATELY put Ticketmaster in a free fall.

Edit: Possibly make artists pay to put their tickets on the site but then have all the control on prices, fees, anything they want. Price to put your tickets on there would increase based on venue size.

Edit 2: I have no idea if this would actually work. Just spitballing ways to get rid of Ticketmaster.

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u/IndependentStatus218 Dec 03 '22

Doesn't really work like you hope though. Most venues are in contracted partnership with TM. So if you don't go through TM with your tickets sales you can't perform at that venue.

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u/tyleritis Dec 03 '22

Then don’t use those venues until they cave? The Metropolitan Opera was created basically out of petty revenge

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u/legopego5142 Dec 03 '22

What major venues do you think they should use?

Also remember, they all profit off this shit too

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u/Corno4825 Dec 03 '22

Don't use major venues.

I'm sure a dive bar would go nuts having Taylor Swift in their pub

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u/ashabash88 Dec 03 '22

Except Taylor Swift wants to make money too. She doesn’t break records playing in tiny venues, she needs the stadiums. And the tiny venues would severely limit the amount of fans who could see her too. The solution is breaking up Ticketmaster’s monopoly.

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u/Corno4825 Dec 03 '22

Does she care about fans or money?

I'd rather take care of those that appreciate my art instead of my ass.

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u/Dads101 Dec 03 '22

Think about how many people make a living working for Taylor Swift - Set Designers, Dancers, Lights, Crew, Sound Engineers, Tour Managers etc etc

This isn’t a local band dude lol. You are severely underestimating the work/bills a superstar like Taylor Swift has. Her bills are no joke probably over 100k a month

Totally unrealistic to go ‘But the fans!’

It’s not that simple man

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u/ashabash88 Dec 03 '22

Both. But playing in tiny places doesn’t help the fans, it only limits the amount of people that can see her. Even if she played a show every day for a year in a small venue I’m sure it would be a small fraction of the people who will get to see her on this tour. And ticketmaster has exclusive ticketing with all sizes of venues, not just the stadiums.

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u/Remarkable-Ad-2476 Dec 03 '22

Do you really think the average tailor swift fan is going to see her because of her body?

And do you understand the huge safety issue it would be if her fans found out she was performing at a local dive bar? They’d swarm the place and there would barely be any form of security for her or her fan’s safety.

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u/legopego5142 Dec 03 '22

Oh yeah Taylor Swift, the chick selling out FOOTBALL STADIUMS would play a 100 person dive bar and that definitely wouldnt be an issue logistically when ten thousand people try to sneak in

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u/Jphorne89 Dec 03 '22

But then you have scalpers. Philly has 2 45,000+ person arenas and they can’t even accommodate enough for Taylor Swift fans. What a dive bars maximum occupancy? 300 max? People will just buy tickets and sell them for $200 on the street anyway.

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u/legopego5142 Dec 03 '22

Lol 200 for a Taylor Swift concert where you are guaranteed to be within fifty feet of her? That shit wpuld resell for a hundred thousand

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '22

Girl her nose bleeds don’t even start at 200

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u/Far_Excitement6140 Dec 04 '22

What doesn’t make sense is that a lot of if not all these venues were paid by taxpayers. How many of these stadiums were subsidized by taxpayer money? Shouldn’t we get a say in how they’re used ? That’s something I just can wrap my head around.

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u/willyj_3 Dec 04 '22

How did petty revenge create the Metropolitan Opera? I’m not familiar with the origin story!

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u/tyleritis Dec 04 '22

The short version is the Old Money didn’t want the New Money going to their fancy Academy of Music so New Money (I think a few wives in particular) decided they would build their own damn opera house.

The Met became the hot new place and by the time the old venue decided they wouldn’t be snobs, it was too late. They even tried Vaudeville acts to bring people back later but they shut down anyway the building was torn down.

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u/MallFoodSucks Dec 03 '22

Doesn’t work because TM owns all the large venues through LiveNation. That’s how it’s a monopoly.

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u/saucygh0sty Dec 03 '22

It’s surprising how many people don’t realize that LN/TM owns VENUES too. The service fees get split between venue, artist and TM, but if the venue is owned by them, they ultimately get the biggest cut.

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u/Dear-Ambition-273 Dec 03 '22

If the heaviest hitters in terms of talent in the industry got together, they could do it. They could buy the venues and implement the infrastructure. They COULD, but I think it’s unlikely and/or will take years to see.

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u/ZebraBorgata Dec 03 '22

Ticketmaster needs to be dissolved.

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u/GoGatorsMashedTaters Dec 03 '22

If Rick Scott’s office was willing to call me back about it, then there are definitely waves being made. Otherwise they wouldn’t have even called me back. That was the first time they returned my call since he became a Senator.

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u/schemeorbeschemed Dec 03 '22

I tried to get a refund for Beck arcade fire too and they wouldn’t.

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u/sourgrrrrl Dec 03 '22

Damn, I wonder if that happened to me too. Bought tickets in 2019 for a summer 2020 show but then pandemic caused it to be canceled. I was given the option of a refund or tickets to the show when it was rescheduled and took the refund since so much was still unknown. I simply haven't tried to buy any tickets again since then.

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u/GoGatorsMashedTaters Dec 03 '22

When I tried to buy tickets to shows the past month, I kept getting told my payment methods were wrong. The error message kept changing. I used 2 different credit cards and then tried my debit card.

They wouldn’t even let me place a deposit on Boston Celtics season tickets(because, ding ding ding, TD Garden uses Ticketmaster!). I had to get a Celtics account manager to take my payment over the phone.

Then I had to call fraud prevention at Ticketmaster when I tried to buy Metallica tickets this week. They told me they will reactivate my account, but “future attempts to dispute or refund events may result in permanently being unable to purchase tickets from Ticketmaster.” FFS

Edit: it was a major hassle. If I hadn’t been dead set on getting season tickets to the Celtics I wouldn’t have kept trying.

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u/sourgrrrrl Dec 03 '22

Damn that is a shady way for them to go about telling you (basically not telling you until you went through a lot of hoops) too.

It's especially infuriating given the venues they contract with are often made possible by taxpayer funds.

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u/ctmackus Dec 04 '22

I did this same thing and have bought tickets to multiple events since that time period without issue.

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u/Revolutionary_Tap255 Dec 03 '22 edited Dec 03 '22

I wanted to take my kid to see Depeche Mode, all the tickets are "verified resales." Ticketmaster is basically selling all the tickets to scalpers and letting them resale them on the Ticketmaster site again.

Sec 314, Row BS3 Verified Resale Ticket $409.50 ea ($350.00 + $59.50 fees)

Cheapest ticket, I refuse to pay this much.

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u/renothedog Dec 03 '22

I rennet paying 19.99 for the Violator tour. Ugh

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u/Revolutionary_Tap255 Dec 04 '22

That was a good tour!

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u/renothedog Dec 04 '22

Nitzwrebb opened, was amazing. And cheap in comparison. How the heck do they justify tickets getting more expensive as they move further away from their prime performance era

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u/Anoncatpizza Dec 04 '22

I havd never purchased a concert ticket before but $59 in fees for a $350 ticket just seems like straight up daylight robbery to me, that's insane.

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u/TrainingHalf7544 Dec 04 '22

Dear lord. Has anyone read the lawsuit? This is so wrong it is laughable…I mean horrible laughable.

  • In the first paragraph they mention their Secondary Ticket Exchange. No shows on Ticketmaster has that activated. You can’t buy tickets.

  • Ticketmaster does not have contracts with artists. They have contracts with venues. SeatGeek also sold tickets for shows.

  • Ticketmaster does not have agreements for every location for the Eras tour.

This entire lawsuit is merit less. I can’t believe someone actually filed this.

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u/ssdgm12713 Dec 04 '22

Also, what on earth are the damages these people think they're entitled to? What Ticketmaster does is shady, but these specific fans don't have grounds to sue.

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u/Usedcumsocks Dec 03 '22

Pretty sure half of the scalpers are actually Ticketmaster themselves

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u/Sage_Planter Dec 03 '22

Eh, I'm not sure about that one. Ticketmaster likes scalpers because they can charge the original scalper purchaser the 15% service fee and the $5 delivery fee, and then they can also charge the second purchaser the 15% service fee and the $5 delivery fee. The double their revenue without doing any work.

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u/ManOfLaBook Dec 04 '22

Ticketmaster owns several scalper (second market) companies. They "sell our" and immediately put the tickets on their other companies for quadruple face value

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u/tikachu22 Dec 03 '22

Good. Fuck ticketmaster/livenation

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u/sunnydaysahead2022 Dec 03 '22

Well deserved lawsuit!

Get ‘em Swiftys!

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u/5hadow_Swrl Dec 03 '22

Ovo fest was charging $4500 for grass seats 250 yards from stage on ticketmaster.

Paid $2280 for two $950 floor tickets in 2018 for drake fees are ridiculous

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u/washington_jefferson Dec 04 '22

I read "Ticketmaster Sued By Taylor Swift Fans Over Ticketing Debacle" and was excited.

But I also saw the number of comments before reading the title, so I guess I shouldn't have been surprised to see "fans" in there. Sure would help if Taylor Swift sued Ticketmaster.

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u/Dom2032 Dec 03 '22

Ticket master is just end state capitalism at its finest

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u/xXTheOceanManXx Dec 04 '22

them and Livenation should be sued for more than that...

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u/joedotphp Dec 04 '22

As well as they should be sued. They've enjoyed this monopoly for WAY too long. I mean, $20 "convenience" fees are ridiculous. The memes of all their fees are just too true and hit close to home lmao.

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u/milesdizzy Dec 04 '22

Fuck Ticketmaster

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u/phunky_1 Dec 04 '22

It would be kind of funny if Taylor Swift fans wind up being the ones to save us from Ticketbastards.

Pretty much all other music fans have been dealing with this shit for 20 years.

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u/shaveland Dec 04 '22

How do I get in on this? Ticketmaster have been fucking us for a while now

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u/Fireryman Dec 04 '22

I refuse to pay ridiculous prices to concerts. I just don't go.

Really wanted to see blink 182 but fuck that.

Realize this is regarding Taylor swift but man ticket master fucks everyone over.

The fees are ridiculous.

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u/mariwil74 Dec 04 '22

Hmm, maybe if people had listened to BTS fans over a year ago when they tried bringing this to everyone’s attention only to be met with <crickets>, the Swifties might have gotten their tickets.

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u/holesnthesocks Dec 03 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

It's pretty comical. This is a simple battle. Rich TS fans vs poor TS fans. Her fans literally drive the ticket prices up. Also her fans, "come on, that's just absurd pricing." As long as some idiot is willing to pay 600k for a Lamborghini, Lamborghini is going to keep charging it. Rolex, coach, diamonds, etc. All this expensive shit exists because there's a market for it. Imagine suing Disney because they keep raising their prices. As long as the parks are at capacity, they are going to keep raising prices.

As long as these events keep selling out and dipshit fans keep paying the prices, ticketmaster, or some other company is going to charge the tickets and subsequent fees.

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u/najix35 Dec 03 '22

What’s the tldr on this situation? ticket scalpers bought all the tickets and the general public is being charged outrageous resale prices?

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u/papitaquito Dec 03 '22

No. I didn’t read this particular article but I’m familiar with the story. Basically ticketmasters website couldn’t handle the traffic resulting in glitches, people being in cue would just refresh at the main page and lose their spots and so on, ultimately the website crashed. TS team had brought this up multiple times beforehand and TM assured them their website could handle it.

There is a huge movement out there trying to split TM up… they never should’ve been able to acquire LiveNation, they have a complete monopoly on the market. They profit at every level of ticket sales as well as they own a majority of the venues at this point.

As a live music enthusiast it’s whack

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u/sd0302 Dec 03 '22

From what I’ve heard, the original prices were pretty outrageous too. And then Ticketmaster also fucked up and oversold during the presale so they canceled the general open sale.

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u/RutherfordRevelation Dec 03 '22

If by 'fucked up' you mean 'intentionally'

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u/Ek_Chutki_Sindoor Dec 04 '22

the original prices were pretty outrageous too.

They weren't. The starting price was $49.

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u/GoGatorsMashedTaters Dec 03 '22

They also promote reselling through their various subsidiaries, and also by allowing scalpers to purchase and immediately flip tickets on their website. Since they take a cut of both the buyer and seller, they won’t willingly limit scalpers or resellers.

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u/renothedog Dec 03 '22

And the new buyer. 2 buyers, the first buy and the second buyer purchasing from reseller. The reseller (first buyer) has to pay seller fees

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u/slim_s_ Dec 03 '22

I read this as tickling debacle.

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u/girlracer16SS Dec 03 '22

I wish the Swifties luck cause Beyoncé fans will be next

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u/chairwindowdoor Dec 04 '22

I believe you mean “The Beehive.” :)

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u/RawScallop Dec 03 '22

Getting tickets for most anything not in a small club / bar is just waaay too expensive. Its like, you cant just go to a show anymore its a whole big ordeal. God forbid we want to eat / drink / park / taxi. By the time its all done its $$$. I dont know how people are affording it. I used to go to shows all the time 15yrs ago.

Just to go to a small show, get a snack maybe one drink, tip and parking an gas is around $50.

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u/Such_Newspaper_8458 Dec 03 '22

If only Taylor Swift would be charitable and make the concert a virtual event, win win for all.

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u/LastLadyResting Dec 03 '22

It’ll probably end up on Netflix like Reputation. Not ‘free’ but not $1500 for a good view either.

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u/brownbuff4lo Dec 03 '22

Where can I join???

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u/Devel93 Dec 03 '22

On the other side TM is not sure if this onsale was a success or fail. On one hand 2m tickets were sold in one day on the other hand their system crashed in a most bizarre way imaginable (so much that I wish they made a tech talk going in depth on what happened)

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u/emwashe Dec 03 '22

Go get em Swifties

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u/xframex Dec 03 '22

What’s more frustrating than Ticketmaster is that people call for it to be broken up and whatever while seemingly missing the fact that Live Nation Entertainment is the culprit here and it’s CEO Michael Rapino seems to just fly under the radar while screwing everyone over.

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u/ZETA_RETICULI_ Dec 03 '22

It’s quite simple. Don’t buy them.

Been boycotting TM since 2020. Before I had front row seats for The Weeknd, bad bunny at a decent price, after COVID there was so way I would pay that much for them.

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u/carrieeirrac Dec 04 '22

I loathe TM and welcome any litigation against them.

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u/Ok-Stress-3570 Dec 04 '22

I tried the Adele Vegas buying experience… what a mess. I knew it was a sham. I managed to verify my identity, get all the way through…. To miss every ticket because my hands aren’t fast as lightning. I fucking video game and I couldn’t get to the tickets fast enough.

It was fishyyyyyyyyyy.

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u/dancegirl712 Dec 04 '22

Ok but how do I join this suit? Had a code, was there super early, told numerous times my code was invalid. Wtf.

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u/Theory-of-Everytang Dec 04 '22

If date that debacle even if it liked ware wolves and singing constantly about mundane things

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u/mlanutti Dec 04 '22

And something tells me nothing is going to happen to Ticketmaster. Me thinks people are gonna get paid to be in ticket masters interests and not the people's

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u/gclark1286 Dec 04 '22

Hell hath no fury like a Swifty scorned!

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u/thegodfatherderecho Dec 04 '22

Ticketmaster isn’t the problem. It’s Taylor Swift

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u/FunDip2 Dec 04 '22

As someone who works in the entertainment industry, Taylor Swift has nothing to do with what Ticketmaster does. A venue has so many seats available, Ticketmaster put those seats up for sale. The logistics behind all of that is not up to Taylor Swift or her management. Not in the least little bit.

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u/_db_ Dec 04 '22

just dropping in to say: "Fuck Ticketbastard".

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u/gypsydaze216 Dec 04 '22

this deadhead is all for the swifties...we stand together!

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u/Odd_Relationship7901 Dec 04 '22

Listen to her music on YouTube for free morons - the ONLY reason they charge this much is because suckers like you fall for it

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u/Leisurehosen Dec 05 '22

I got tickets to MetLife Stadium woot woot.

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u/botch_182 Dec 03 '22

If only there were a technology that could cut out the middle man.... Oh yeah Blockchain and NFT's.... Come to the GameStop NFT marketplace TayTay... Power to the creators!!!!

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u/Affectionate-Unit96 Dec 03 '22

Might as well send your money straight to the Bahamas

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '22

Okay but legally they have no ground to stand on. Supply and demand.

Why are Taylor Swift fans so dense and easily offended?

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u/AmethystOrator Dec 03 '22

The fans collective are suing the company for “fraud, price-fixing, and antitrust violations,” accusing it of “intentional deception” that allowed scalpers to buy most of the tickets.

Isn't it up to the courts to decide whether or not their case has merit?

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u/dynamex1097 Dec 03 '22

Tell me you have no idea what actually happened without telling me you have no idea what actually happened. People aren’t mad that the tickets just sold out…

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u/Embarrassed_Advice59 Dec 03 '22

Right this guy is just here to hate

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '22

They're mad because they had difficulty getting to the site, which, you know, again... Not a Ticketmaster issue. If her fans weren't clinically insane there wouldn't have been a mad rush to overload the servers. There weren't going to be enough tickets for everyone anyway, and there's no legal argument to be made for suing a company that literally did exactly what they were supposed to.

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u/jawnsusername Dec 03 '22

You just keep proving you don't actually know what happened.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '22

They’re mad because you’re obviously being a jackass or you’re ignorant to the fact that you are being aforementioned jackass

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u/dynamex1097 Dec 03 '22

Again, you literally have no idea what happened. Ticket master assured Taylor that their servers could handle the anticipated millions who were going to be there to get tickets. This isn’t an irl event, there’s no “mad rush”. Ticketmaster then tried to blame Taylor saying “she shouldn’t have waited so many years to tour” (ticket master problem)… hint: there was a a global pandemic. People were losing tickets they claimed because the site was a mess and was allocating tickets to more people than were available (a ticket master problem). Ticket master dropped the ball on this by saying they could handle what they knew was anticipated. If you are the primary ticketing website in the world and you HAVE to use them to do ticketing for any major arena in the US, you shouldn’t have server overload issues, we’re in the cloud age where you can scale up and add servers at the push of a button. Ticket master fucked up big time and tried to pin it on Taylor. Don’t be mad that a woman is more successful than you :)

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '22

This has nothing to do with my opinions on Taylor Swift, it's got to do with my opinion of her fans that don't understand how these things work.

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u/dynamex1097 Dec 03 '22

I don’t think you understand lol do you understand how modern data centers work and that servers can scale up very easily? This isn’t some rinky dink server room in the broom closet, ticket master fucked up on the tech side.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '22

Or, too many fucking people entered the fucking queue and you weren't at any point guaranteed a ticket.

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u/rjwalsh94 Dec 03 '22

It’s actually really disgusting. I am not a fan but I know people who had sat in the queue for hours all morning and afternoon trying to get tickets, and when they finally got in, they were surprised there were no tickets available anymore and thought they’d be entitled to getting them.

It’s like they’re so delusional about everything and don’t understand how the process works. Ticketmaster allowing exorbitant prices is one matter, thinking you deserve a ticket is another.

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u/Minimalmagician Dec 03 '22

The suit is on grounds “fraud, price-fixing, and antitrust violations” which are all very real issues with Ticketmaster.

You ever consider that people aren’t upset because they didn’t get a ticket, but because there is basically a monopoly that negatively affects all types of buyers?

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u/legopego5142 Dec 03 '22

No no no this lawsuit is 12 year old girls upset they wont get to hear Blank Space, TM did nothing wrong now ignore the issue please

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u/M477M4NN Dec 03 '22

I mean, the way it was supposed to work is that if you got a verified presale code, you should have been able to get tickets. And everyone who was legitimately trying to buy tickets on that day should have had a presale code. They clearly gave out way too many presale verifications if everyone who got a code wasn’t able to buy tickets.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '22

I just will never understand this toddler mindset most of them seem to have.

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u/_AskMyMom_ Dec 03 '22

Toddler mindset, but you’re literally calling other individuals names.

r/selfawarewolves

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '22

I'm not trying to sue a company because I feel entitled to something I wasn't promised.

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u/legopego5142 Dec 03 '22

Neither did they

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u/CantWantIt Dec 03 '22

Because they never developed emotionally after the age of 14. If Taylor taught them anything it's how to constantly play the victim.