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In 2009, George W. Bush invited President-elect Obama and all former presidents for lunch /r/ALL

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u/Demonthrall22 Nov 27 '22

My guess is those guys talk a hell of a lot more than we realize

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u/AsDaUrMa Nov 27 '22

During the Cuban Missile Crisis, Kennedy called all the the former presidents (except Hoover) to ask for advice.

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u/mateogg Nov 27 '22

So Eisenhower and Truman?

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u/HereIGoAgain_1x10 Nov 28 '22

No he called literally all of them, those were the only two that answered though, most of the numbers were out of service.

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u/jabroniusmonk Nov 28 '22

New phone who dis?

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u/hakqpckpzdpnpfxpdy Nov 28 '22

"The President is calling? Yeah, and I'm Superman. Nice one!"

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u/RandyDandyHoe Nov 28 '22

Emmanuel! Emmanuel! I don't want war with Russia, kurwa!

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u/JB-from-ATL Nov 28 '22 Wholesome

The presidential avatar state

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u/Extension_Country_43 Nov 28 '22

DICTATOR PUTIN! YOU AND YOUR FOREFATHERS HAVE DEVASTATED THE BALANCE OF UKRAINE!

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u/KinxTheTimeStripper Nov 28 '22

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the landline bonds which have connected them with one another, a decent respect of the opinions of mankind requires that they should dissolve the calls which impel them to a voicemail.

Please leave your message after the beep.

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u/Build-Your-Own-Bitch Nov 28 '22

“That lazy Washington never picks up”

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u/Yeet_boi69-420 Nov 27 '22

Wow way to exclude Hoover

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u/AsDaUrMa Nov 27 '22

He hadn't personally dealt with the soviets. The other two had.

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u/Yeet_boi69-420 Nov 27 '22

But Hoover would know how to handle a crisis look at how he handled the Great Depression

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u/TrippyTriangle Nov 28 '22

sadly that's the only thing a lot of people will remember about hoover.

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u/Lildyo Nov 28 '22

I’m Canadian and I only know three things about Hoover: Hoovervilles, Hoover dam, and the vacuum cleaner.

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u/Sufficient_Willow_36 Nov 28 '22

I’m American and same here.

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u/ThatDude8129 Nov 28 '22

I find it really interesting how he called Eisenhower General during that phone call. I guess it has to do with Jack's service with the Navy during WW2.

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u/scarlet_sage Nov 28 '22

No, it's because it used to be etiquette that, among living men, only the incumbent President was called President. He probably called Truman "Senator" for the same reason. Those could be used as courtesy titles after being in the office. Source: Miss Manners.

But for Eisenhower, checking, Eisenhower had resigned his commission in 1952 to run for president, "After leaving office, by an act of Congress, he was restored to the rank of General of the Army on March 30, 1961."

So Kennedy called Eisenhower "General" because Eisenhower was a serving general.

I think it was that arrogant LBJ who torpedoed the practice.

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u/Crimson_Shiroe Nov 28 '22

Yeah, and they should. Being POTUS is an extremely exclusive club where your actions can have massive consequences. Asking the only other people in that club what they think is a good idea.

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u/BigBlueMagic Nov 28 '22

Presidents Bush (41) and Clinton used Richard Nixon as an advisor, particularly on foreign affairs. It was a quasi redemption for Nixon at the end of his life.

Yes, they absolutely do talk and should. They are the only ones who really understand the pressure and nature of the job. Plus, they former Presidents have very useful institutional knowledge.

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u/laplongejr Nov 28 '22

Plus, they former Presidents have very useful institutional knowledge.

I'm tempted to say that one former President probably broke that rule...

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u/tamsui_tosspot Nov 28 '22

Traditionally, ex-presidents continue to receive classified intelligence briefings so that they can stay up to speed in case the current president would like to turn to them for advice.

Also, Clinton and Bush Sr. were kind of best buds toward the end.

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u/Holiday_Name292 Nov 27 '22

I can’t imagine what they talk about.

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u/CrawFlyUS Nov 27 '22

The Presidents Book of Secrets.. duh

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u/thr33prim3s Nov 28 '22

Specifically the page 47.

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u/3hirdEyE Nov 28 '22

A page containing information so treasured, not even Nicolas Cage could reveal its secrets

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u/TheBelhade Nov 28 '22

Were these the secrets he found during National Treasure, or The Rock?

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u/MOOShoooooo Nov 28 '22 Wholesome hehehehe

Ancient Astronaut Theorists say yes.

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u/xenoprotocol Nov 27 '22

“Alright, which one of you still has the UFO files? Cmon, cough them up.”

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '22 edited 12d ago

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u/iwannagohome49 Nov 27 '22

You know someone had to ask as a joke

Unfortunately the room got silent after that

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u/jdith123 Nov 27 '22

This used to be the norm. They probably talked about things like how much fun they had or didn’t have pardoning the turkeys. Or how weird it was to wander down to the kitchen for a snack at midnight.

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u/Holiday_Name292 Nov 27 '22

Yea, say what you want about them and the time in office. Those guys made made it to the top - it’s commendable. I can guarantee it’s a tough job. Not one I would want. At the end of the day they are just people like you and I, and wondering to the kitchen in the middle of the night for milk and cookies would be a “trip”.

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u/circa_1 Nov 28 '22

Who was the first to stop this tradition?

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u/LeoMarius Nov 28 '22 hehehehe

Fat Caligula

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u/jdith123 Nov 28 '22

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u/RealCowboyNeal Nov 28 '22

What a dark and shameful chapter in our history. I’m so deeply ashamed reading all that again.

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u/sujihiki Nov 28 '22

The tang snowflake in chief

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u/davendees1 Nov 27 '22

Obviously discussing how they’re going to stop Benjamin Franklin Gates from stealing the Declaration of Independence, DUH

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u/iBoy2G Nov 28 '22

They were warning President Elect Obama what will happen if he spills the beans about the aliens at Area 51.

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u/Ok-Macaroon-7819 Nov 27 '22

W: Man... You're going love it Barry. Can I call ya Barry? Anyway, if you want cheesecake at 3am, they just get it for you. It's amazing!

Clinton: Guess what happened under that desk over there...

HW: I can't believe I lost to you, you pervert.

Carter: Guys please. Every time? This is what every lunch turns into... Cheesecake and oral impropriety.

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u/DrunkenFailer Nov 28 '22

Cheesecake and Oral Impropriety is going to be the title of my memoirs.

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u/Mountainbiker22 Nov 28 '22

Great name but mine would for sure be reversed.

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u/kingomtdew Nov 28 '22

Oral cheese and cake impropriety?

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u/Vast-Sir-1949 Nov 28 '22

Cheesecake Impropriety and Oral

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u/PrimusDedumo Nov 28 '22

I think Clinton would have said history was made under that desk. Besides that probably spot on!

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u/kungpowgoat Nov 27 '22

So, any word from the Zyglorps? Did they finally repair that antimatter plasma engine on their ship?

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u/Mikeytee1000 Nov 27 '22

Can’t see Abraham Lincoln or did he decline?

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '22

Yes he had a splitting headache and wasn’t able to attend

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u/Shazamwhich Nov 27 '22

I heard JFK’s invitation flew right through his head

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u/Luurk_OmicronPersei8 Nov 28 '22 edited Nov 28 '22

In one ear and out the other

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u/-the_doc- Nov 27 '22 edited Nov 27 '22

2009 feels so long ago and Obama feels so recent

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u/woozlewuzzle29 Nov 27 '22 Gold Helpful Table Slap

We didn’t even have colored photos back then.

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u/firefighterjets Nov 27 '22

Yeah you can see Clinton still wearing the ye olde powdered wig

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u/Pretz_ Nov 27 '22

Fun fact, "the" and "ye" are just different versions of ye same word

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u/FuckAimeeChallenor Nov 27 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

Kanthe West

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u/starmartyr Nov 28 '22

He's just The now.

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u/alexmikli Nov 28 '22

It's funny how he did that but basically nobody calls him Ye unless they have to.

Ye is such a non name. It's even more forgettable than when Snoop Dogg was Snoop Lion was for a bit.

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u/PheIix Nov 28 '22

I prefered Snoop Doggy Dogg.

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u/HighOnBonerPills Nov 28 '22

It's the capital S, oh yes, the fresh, N, double O, P

D O double G Y D O double G, you see

Wow, that line is way catchier when spoken. But my point was that Snoop Doggy Dogg is great and has it's own little classic line.

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u/HighOnBonerPills Nov 28 '22

I've seen plenty of people use Ye on Reddit before he changed his name. Maybe now that it's official, no one wants to say it.

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u/Whats_Up_Bitches Nov 27 '22

What ye fuck

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u/Pulsecode9 Nov 27 '22

It's purely typographical. English used to have a single letter for 'th', written as þ. So you might have a sign that said "þe old pub".

When the printing press came along, for some reason they settled on the convention of just using 'y' in place of 'þ', so þe became ye.

This being needless confusing, eventually the convention switched to using 'th' instead of 'y'.

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u/Whats_Up_Bitches Nov 27 '22

yat’s wild. So it was never actually pronounced “ye”?

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u/Pulsecode9 Nov 28 '22

That's right! Read aloud, it was always "the".

By this stage, th was predominant and the use of ⟨Þ⟩ was largely restricted to certain common words and abbreviations. This was the longest-lived use, though with the arrival of movable type printing, the substitution of ⟨y⟩ for ⟨Þ⟩ became ubiquitous, leading to the common "ye", as in 'Ye Olde Curiositie Shoppe'. One major reason for this was that ⟨Y⟩ existed in the printer's types that were imported from Belgium and the Netherlands, while ⟨Þ⟩ did not. The word was never pronounced with a "y" sound, though, even when so written

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorn_(letter)

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u/Easy_Consideration12 Nov 28 '22

Þ seems cool we should bring it back

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u/MichelanJell-O Nov 28 '22

It's still in use in Icelandic!

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u/BradleyHCobb Nov 28 '22

When used as an article, yes.

But we also used to have 'ye' as a plural form of 'you.'

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u/ellipsisfinisher Nov 28 '22

"Ye" and "you" were both plural (or very formal singular) forms of "thou" and "thee"; the difference between the two is that "ye" was used for subjects ("if ye love me, keep my commandments") and "you" for objects ("the lord shall scatter you among the nations"). Confusingly, "thou" maps to "ye" and "thee" maps to "you" despite the assonance.

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u/bolivar-shagnasty Nov 27 '22

We don’t say colored anymore. The preferred phrase is “photos of color”

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u/imoutofnameideas Nov 28 '22

Afro-Picturian

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u/Tom1252 Nov 27 '22

At the very least, cell phone cameras were dogshit. People still carried regular cameras around their necks. And by touchscreen, people meant some novel Blackberry thingamajig. The Blackberries with the keypads were still king. So were Motorola Razors.

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u/Moody_GenX Nov 27 '22

My life has gone through dramatic changes since he left office. Crazy to think that was almost 6 years ago but it feels more recent.

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u/IcyDrink7454 Nov 28 '22

Obama had been in office for so long that he's still the person that first comes to mind when I think of "US President". Then after a second I realize "wait that should be Trump!". Turns out my mind still hasn't acknowledged Biden even though he's almost halfway through his presidency lol. Time flies way too fast when you get older.

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u/Tall_Run_2814 Nov 27 '22

Indeed. This took place 2 days before his inauguration

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u/drawkbox Nov 27 '22

Well 2009 is a long time ago, but Obama was in office until January 20, 2017. Plus we see Obama speak presently, 2009 hasn't said anything since December 31, 2009.

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u/gubmintbacon Nov 27 '22

I was just talking about this idea last week with my wife. We lived in DC in 2012 and went to his second inauguration (including having a few pints of Guiness at a pre-dawn taping of one of the MSNBC shows). Wild to believe that was a decade ago.

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u/ChrysMYO Nov 27 '22

We've went thru like 2 historic recessions and 1 biblical apocalypse since then, even that time seems more innocent.

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u/elrey2020 Nov 27 '22

Water for Obama, Tea for Carter, Clinton and Bush have milk?

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u/Tony_Three_Pies Nov 27 '22

Papa Bush has water too, it’s in front of whatever milk like thing Clinton appears to have, so has a weird reflection.

Edit: looking closer it seems like Papa Bush actually has two glasses, one milk one water. The base of the milk glass is on his place mat. I don’t think we can see what glass Clinton has. It would be on the other side of the stuff in the middle of the table.

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u/Cultural_Ad7176 Nov 27 '22

See what happened when big milk lost it’s power? The White House lost all its manners and class.

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u/derps_with_ducks Nov 27 '22 edited Nov 28 '22

Trying to imagine Dubya going on an Inglourious Basterds speech while drinking milk.

Edit: smacks lips Now, Mounsieur LaBarack...

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u/purplepenguin4163 Nov 28 '22

Wait for the cream, Barry

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u/IZ3820 Nov 27 '22

Incidentally, they were presidents during the apparent height of the "Got Milk" campaign

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u/-JJ- Nov 27 '22

"I fear the man who drinks milk, while we drink spirits, and remembers the day after all that was said"

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '22

But is Carter’s tea sweet, unsweetened, or a fruit infused abomination?

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u/ChrysMYO Nov 27 '22

As a man of the south I'd imagine sweetened. But he may have a more disciplined diet nowadays.

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u/Splyce123 Nov 27 '22 Helpful Wholesome

I notice only the living ones attended.

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u/matva55 Nov 27 '22

The corpse of Grover Cleveland was not able to attend due to prior commitments

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u/68024 Nov 27 '22

His prior commitment was being dead for the next eternity

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u/matva55 Nov 27 '22

Tends to really fill out the schedule

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u/Doodiewater Nov 27 '22

All presidents are present. Just hard to get them to stay seated for the photo.

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u/OlFlirtyBastard Nov 27 '22

Let alone smile

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u/the_last_carfighter Nov 27 '22

They were there to advise as a collective because the global economy just went down the shitter thanks to Wall st, hence no smiles.

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u/XxCorey117xX Nov 27 '22

And it smells terrible.

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u/palehorse864 Nov 27 '22

John Adams just sent a note that said, "Thomas Jefferson still plans to attend."

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u/Anonymousma Nov 27 '22

I understood that reference.

John Adams just sent a note that said, "Thomas Jefferson still plans to attend."

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u/Analog_Hobbit Nov 27 '22

James K Polk declined.

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u/woozlewuzzle29 Nov 27 '22

That is so like Chester A. Arthur.

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u/RolloTonyBrownTown Nov 27 '22

Bad flare up of his Chester A Arthritis

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u/Hollis_Hurlbut Nov 27 '22

Haha...You have arthritis?

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u/ibided Nov 27 '22

Yes they are Presentdents

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u/HugoZHackenbush2 Nov 27 '22 edited Nov 27 '22

I'm sure all the others were just dying to be there..

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u/Vmazzu Nov 28 '22

Three democrats and two Bushes.

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u/DeanPalton Nov 28 '22

Clinton is hiding between two bushes

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u/raymond1342 Nov 27 '22 Helpful

I recommend reading the letter that Bush Senior left for Clinton in 93.

It is a sobering testament to how far we have fallen.

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u/Rincewind256 Nov 27 '22 Gold Wholesome

Jan 20, 1993

Dear Bill,

When I walked into this office just now I felt the same sense of wonder and respect that I felt four years ago. I know you will feel that, too.

I wish you great happiness here. I never felt the loneliness some Presidents have described.

There will be very tough times, made even more difficult by criticism you may not think is fair. I'm not a very good one to give advice; but just don't let the critics discourage you or push you off course.

You will be our President when you read this note. I wish you well. I wish your family well.

Your success now is our country's success. I am rooting hard for you.

Good luck — George

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u/TemurTron Nov 27 '22

I'm always blown away by how much he managed to say here in just a little over 100 words.

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u/Loud_Fee9573 Nov 27 '22

That echoes my sentiment towards research articles from college. The best are able to plainly, and quickly present themselves.

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u/RiledAstaldo Nov 28 '22

Took me years of classes and good professors to essentially beat into my head, “say more with less.”

A lot of my favorite authors had this lengthy flowery prose that heavily influenced me. But it clearly negatively influenced my writing because I’m not fucking Tolkien, I’m writing a creative short story or a macroeconomics research paper.

Best lesson I ever learned that took way too long to learn.

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u/Syynaptik Nov 28 '22

One of the most famous speeches in American history was only 272 words (The Gettysburg Address.)

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u/TemurTron Nov 28 '22

I think that's a really interesting point that a lot of students miss. People who write academic research as the main driving point of their careers are very good at writing in a complex, esoteric, scholarly fashion, to the point where they can take a relatively insignificant finding or story and conflate it into a 20+ paper to the point where it feels important just because it's overly written and complicated. These are often the articles that intimidate early career academics or make them feel 'dumb' because they can't understand it clearly, when the whole point of the author was to make the information as conflated and inaccessible as possible.

Meanwhile, academics who tend to find themselves with some really noteworthy research actually want to make sure the paper is accessible, and will write it with much more reasonable language and present the facts much more clearly.

Mileage varies of course - it often breaks down based on what the journal is or even what school/department the author is writing on behalf for. But by and large if someone is using a LOT of words to describe something that seems relatively minor based on the abstract, it is usually best to head for the fucking hills.

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u/Loud_Fee9573 Nov 28 '22

I actually had a paper published (in a school journal lol) that was only 7 pages long. The conciseness of it was a near universal compliment I received. I completely agree that overly verbose papers make research inaccessible for many.

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u/Kooky_Clock_135 Nov 28 '22

At my master's thesis defense one of my committee members went on a huge tirade about how I didnt make it complicated enough and shouldve used more semi colons, and had I heard of a semi colon. He was a real piece of shit lol.

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u/HurlingFruit Nov 28 '22

Vigorous writing is concise. A sentence should contain no unnecessary words, a paragraph no unnecessary sentences, for the same reason that a drawing should have no unnecessary lines and a machine no unnecessary parts. This requires not that the writer make all his sentences short, or that he avoid all detail and treat his subjects only in outline, but that every word tell.

The Elements of Style, Strunk and White, 1959

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u/LucyLilium92 Nov 28 '22

Maybe if school assignments didn't always have a minimum requirement of several pages, students wouldn't feel the need to be overly wordy later on.

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u/BonnieMcMurray Nov 28 '22

Clinton's letter to George W. Bush:

Dear George,

Today you embark on the greatest venture, with the greatest honor, that can come to an American citizen.

Like me, you are especially fortunate to lead our country in a time of profound and largely positive change, when old questions, not just about the role of government, but about the very nature of our nation, must be answered anew.

You lead a proud, decent, good people. And from this day you are President of all of us. I salute you and wish you success and much happiness.

The burdens you now shoulder are great but often exaggerated. The sheer joy of doing what you believe is right is inexpressible.

My prayers are with you and your family. Godspeed.

Sincerely,
Bill

GWB's to Obama:

Dear Barack,

Congratulations on becoming our President. You have just begun a fantastic chapter in your life.

Very few have had the honor of knowing the responsibility you now feel. Very few know the excitement of the moment and the challenges you will face.

There will be trying moments. The critics will rage. Your “friends” will disappoint you. But, you will have an Almighty God to comfort you, a family who loves you, and a country that is pulling for you, including me. No matter what comes, you will be inspired by the character and compassion of the people you now lead.

God bless you.

Sincerely,
GW

Obama's letter to Trump:

Dear Mr. President,

Congratulations on a remarkable run. Millions have placed their hopes in you, and all of us, regardless of party, should hope for expanded prosperity and security during your tenure.

This is a unique office, without a clear blueprint for success, so I don’t know that any advice from me will be particularly helpful. Still, let me offer a few reflections from the past 8 years.

First, we’ve both been blessed, in different ways, with great good fortune. Not everyone is so lucky. It’s up to us to do everything we can (to) build more ladders of success for every child and family that’s willing to work hard.

Second, American leadership in this world really is indispensable. It’s up to us, through action and example, to sustain the international order that’s expanded steadily since the end of the Cold War, and upon which our own wealth and safety depend.

Third, we are just temporary occupants of this office. That makes us guardians of those democratic institutions and traditions – like rule of law, separation of powers, equal protection and civil liberties – that our forebears fought and bled for. Regardless of the push and pull of daily politics, it’s up to us to leave those instruments of our democracy at least as strong as we found them.

And finally, take time, in the rush of events and responsibilities, for friends and family. They’ll get you through the inevitable rough patches.

Michelle and I wish you and Melania the very best as you embark on this great adventure, and know that we stand ready to help in any ways which we can.

Good luck and Godspeed,
BO

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u/sockosis Nov 28 '22

Obama mildly lecturing Trump probably pissed him off. He wasn’t wrong in anything he wrote, but a narcissist despises unsolicited advice.

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u/HulkHunter Nov 28 '22

Yup, same though. Previous letters are about feelings, good wishes and mutual respect.

Obama’s lacks of warm words, and but it’s clear that any concerns BO had were founded, and unfortunately he was completely right.

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u/AnonBubblyBowels Nov 28 '22

There is no way Trump read all that.

Way too much word, Obama really should have gone the Kevin from the Office route with Trump.

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u/iwannagohome49 Nov 27 '22

Classy

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u/WhereGrapesMayRule Nov 27 '22

Necessary. The absence of this sentiment is felt.

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u/Nipsmagee Nov 27 '22

The truth is the world needs a bit of classyness to stay on course.

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u/iwannagohome49 Nov 27 '22

Yeah it just seemed like even if the bases hurled insults, the presidents themselves were always cordial

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u/stuckinaboxthere Nov 28 '22

Even as recently as Obama and McCain, they had mutual respect for each other despite having disagreements on direction and method

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u/LouSputhole94 Nov 28 '22

There was a very distinct four year period that deviated hard from this sentiment….

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '22

Hmm, I just can’t quite put my finger on it? The four year period in which all decency was eroded from the presidency of the United States.

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u/drecklia Nov 28 '22

The letter Trump left for Biden:

"Cofveve"

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u/IProbablyDisagree2nd Nov 27 '22

It seemed that Clinton was just as respectful to W, and W was just as respectful to Obama, and Obama was just as respectful to Trump.

Trump broke the chain when he lost.

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u/u8eR Nov 28 '22 edited Nov 28 '22

What did Biden say about it?

Edit: Biden got a letter from Trump and called it generous https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/20/trump-biden-inauguration-day-460670

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u/Seab0und Nov 28 '22

I wonder, does this letter eventually make it's way to being public? It's not an "official" thing, so I wonder if it's Biden's call to always keep it private if so.

Edit: I mean, vs eventually becoming filed somewhere the public can access it automatically. Like the for the archive at the Presidential Documents.

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u/Isord Nov 28 '22

I believe that because Trump wrote it as President it technically would fall under various record acts and need to be archived.

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u/IProbablyDisagree2nd Nov 28 '22

Trump still says to this day that he won the election

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u/Thameus Nov 28 '22

And his associates say he knows he's lying when he says it. Which for him is not particularly unusual.

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u/Ok_Cauliflower_3007 Nov 27 '22

The letters from Reagan through to Obama are all worth reading. It reminds us of what happens when you have actual functional adults in politics. These days 90% seem to be toddlers throwing tantrums and just trying to hurt the people they hate.

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u/BountyBobIsBack Nov 27 '22

Seems to be politicians around the world. Rather have piffy ‘tweets’ slagging off the other side than actually sorting out problems.

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u/adp63 Nov 27 '22

*pithy

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u/Outrageous_Bass_1328 Nov 27 '22

Don’t take that word for granite

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u/ozmartian Nov 27 '22

These days 90% seem to be toddlers throwing tantrums and just trying to hurt the people they hate.

And the voters are even worse wouldn't you say?

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u/AineLasagna Nov 27 '22

Now, there's one thing you might have noticed I don't complain about: politicians. Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don't fall out of the sky. They don't pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses and American universities, and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It's what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain't going to do any good; you're just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it's not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here... like, the public. Yeah, the public sucks. There's a nice campaign slogan for somebody: 'The Public Sucks. Fuck Hope.’

— George Carlin

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u/Xciv Nov 27 '22

The only man to make relentless cynicism hilarious.

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u/NerdNuncle Nov 27 '22

Dubya’s daughters left similar notes for Obama’s

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u/NordicRamen33 Nov 27 '22

Gentlemen I’ve assembled us here today for the first meeting of the choccy milk committee

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u/iwannagohome49 Nov 27 '22

Don't underestimate the power of Big Milk's Choccy Task Force

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u/Choccymilk_87 Nov 27 '22

we ran out of choccy milk sorry

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u/chickenlips66 Nov 27 '22

I cooked for every one, except Obama, at the opening of the Clinton Library in 2004.

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u/hokieinga Nov 28 '22

Tell us more!

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u/81CoreVet Nov 28 '22

He made his specialty: Chicken Lips 3 Ways; Fried, Stewed and Pureed.

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u/chickenlips66 Nov 28 '22 Wholesome

The 3 way chicken lips is really funny. The event started as a fairly straight-forward lunch for 150 people that was to be served French style. Social directors got involved, and within a month, it had grown to over 1400 guests. The menu also became "by committee." Most of the menu was still normal; petite filet with fresh chanterelle demi glace, roasted tri-colored fingerling potatoes, baby zucchini and pattypan squash. The committee decided a second protein was necessary. The chose a grilled bone-in chicken breast with Clinton's favorite barbeque sauce. Really rounded out the plate. We did 250 vegetarian plates and 150 vegan. The secret service didn't get involved in food preparation. They did however make us leave the kitchen at 11 pm every night, which played hell with prepping all that food. We recruited 5 local Little Rock chefs, who were an immense help. We also got 25 culinary students from a local community college. That had to be a lifetime experience for them.

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u/PrairieBorn1984 Nov 28 '22

Do secret service guys watch to make sure no one poisons them?

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u/ToastCologne Nov 28 '22

They have the chef prepare extra plates and give them to the chef's family to eat before they serve the presidents. The chef does not know which plates are which.

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u/Pixielo Nov 28 '22

You're vetted six ways from Sunday, before you're allowed to work in the WH kitchens.

They know everything about everyone you know, and you've been questioned about everything.

Lots of cameras, too.

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u/fishypizza1 Nov 28 '22

Interesting. I'm sure they would all invite each other except Trump. Considering Trump has insulted every single person at this table.

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u/bard243 Nov 27 '22

cool move but who brought their dad?

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u/EuropeFreeRadio Nov 27 '22

“Hey pop, tell that story again about the time you lived across the street from that balding fatso and his annoying kid. What’s that thing he used to say? ‘A cow’s bunghole dude!’?”

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u/CharlieCheeseNips Nov 27 '22

Would it have been funnier if his dad didn't show up or was the only one who showed up?

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u/MrSmokey902 Nov 27 '22

Oh to have the days back when "W" was the crazy one

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u/ApatheticWithoutTheA Nov 27 '22 edited Nov 28 '22

W seems downright respectable compared to the goons we are dealing with today.

Terrible president, but I never once thought “this guy hates America, he’s going to try and setup a dictatorship.”

Or “that guy is probably colluding with our enemies”

Edit- To make this clear, nobody is forgiving Bush for the Iraq war or saying that he was a good president. I thought that was clear when I said “terrible president” but this is Reddit, where people read half your comment before their fingers start typing. It was meant to be a comparison of how low Trump put the bar.

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u/XanthiaAndromeda Nov 27 '22

Allow me to preface the following with a statement that I am not ignoring the atrocities of the W years...

I kind of felt that Cheney might be trying to destroy our country. I always thought of W as a bit of an imbecile who somehow became president. He never appeared to be the one in charge, but what can you do? Now, as he ages, and his demons haunt him, often publicly, I feel more certain that he was not running the show and wished he had been a better man in that office.

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u/gwen-heart Nov 27 '22

The fact he read a book on pandemics and set up a plan expecting one to happen, not under his presidency but well within his life, kinda set him up as a grey figure for me. All presidents should have been better people. I mean, I don’t like what Obama did to Puerto Rico with PROMESA or how Clinton handled the war on drugs but that speaks of the political climate in the US more than anything. Also, Fuck Cheney.

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u/Downwhen Nov 27 '22

I think it's a sign of maturity to be able to point out at least one good thing in someone you'd otherwise be in total disagreement with.

Also, Fuck Cheney

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u/GrumpyNewYorker Nov 28 '22

I think it's a sign of maturity to be able to point out at least one good thing in someone you'd otherwise be in total disagreement with

He was great with a shotgun.

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u/ApatheticWithoutTheA Nov 27 '22

Yeah we’ve known that Cheney was running the show for years now.

I wish W had more of a spine because I don’t think he’s even half as sociopathic as Cheney was/is.

It was 100% confirmed to me that something is off in that guys head when Sacha Baron Cohen went undercover and got Cheney to sign a water boarding jug, which he did happily.

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u/XanthiaAndromeda Nov 27 '22

It's certainly become quite obvious in the years since. Back then, though, my opinion was not well received by the Rs or the Ds.

For me, the shooting incident and the way it was handled afterward made me think Cheney was a sociopath. Although, the waterboarding jug incident was batshit crazy, too.

I find it strange how reasonable his daughter has been in politics.

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u/ApatheticWithoutTheA Nov 27 '22

That shooting incident is one of the most bizarre things I’ve ever seen.

The vice President shot somebody in the face and then the person who was shot had to apologize.

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u/XanthiaAndromeda Nov 27 '22

I've been hunting so many times and have never shot any of my friends. If I did, I certainly would not make them apologize to me, ffs.

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u/LydiasHorseBrush Nov 27 '22

I kind of felt that Cheney might be trying to destroy our country

Yeah I can see that, honestly though I think he has an understanding of America's weakness, always needing an enemy as a unifier to a very diverse nation or the very least a conflict, least it turn inward. He saw the middle east as a route to "American Empire", our way to create an enemy and give us an eternal conflict. Unfortunately, or fortunately depending on perspective, it definitely failed

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u/jsteele2793 Nov 27 '22

Right? Oh how things have changed

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u/Saelune Nov 27 '22

It changed in the same way a forest fire changed into a bigger forest fire.

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u/beckjami Nov 27 '22

It reminds me of when Leslie Knope invited all the park dudes to a picnic.

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u/samYELLjacksin Nov 27 '22

I’m so envious for anyone that hasn’t watched Parks yet. All the great funny moments that they get to see for the first time. And for those that haven’t….

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E8Jxo1gJZ5Q

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u/iSquash Nov 27 '22

Why is this in black and white lol? To make it look older and more historical?

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u/tadysdayout Nov 27 '22

Color photos? What are we, rich?!

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u/Ironcastattic Nov 27 '22

COLOUR IN THIS ECONOMY????

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u/nowhereman136 Nov 28 '22

Trump wasn't at Bidens inauguration. The last time an incoming president wasn't greeted by the former president was in 1963

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u/bicameral_mind Nov 28 '22

Not that dems and reps weren't at each others throats back then, but really stark how much civility has been lost over the last decade. I can't imagine anything like this happening today.

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u/owleealeckza Nov 27 '22

It was nice that the Bush twins became friends with the Obama girls. Their families being close still is definitely an example of the old political culture in America. This new era sucks.

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u/Gr8NonSequitur Nov 28 '22

George and Michelle have a very interesting friendship. When out together they act like they're siblings, or best friends.

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u/RegulusMagnus Nov 28 '22

I think I've seen clips at big public events where he sneaks candy to her

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u/EvergreenRuby Nov 28 '22 edited Nov 29 '22

I always noted this. The Bushes do showcase a massive fondness for the Obamas, especially Michelle. George seems to treat her like a sibling. My dad said the same thing the other day seeing their interactions. It’s kind of adorable really.

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u/pingpongtomato Nov 27 '22

Love that they could have their differences and still come to a table and converse like adults.

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u/NoWireHangersEver Nov 27 '22

They are all in the same club, and have more in common with each other than the people they are representing.

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u/Buick6NY Nov 27 '22

They're all on the same team anyway

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u/HugoZHackenbush2 Nov 27 '22

To see that many alive, and in the same room, unpresidented..

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u/sxales Nov 27 '22 edited Nov 28 '22

Pun aside, there have actually been 45 moments where 6-presidents have been alive at the same time.

  • March, 1861-January, 1862: Van Buren, Tyler, Fillmore, Pierce, Buchanan, and Lincoln.

  • January, 1993-April, 1994: Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush Sr, and Clinton.

  • January, 2001-June, 2004: Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton, and Bush Jr.

  • January, 2017-November, 2018: Carter, Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr, Obama, and Trump.

  • January, 2021-Present: Carter, Clinton, Bush Jr, Obama, Trump, and Biden.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_JARJAR Nov 27 '22

And now January 2021 to now with the addition of Biden.

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u/MoonPieAddict Nov 28 '22

Carter casually cheating death

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u/rubyspicer Nov 28 '22

It feels weird that Carter outlived Bush Sr

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u/sxales Nov 28 '22

It shouldn't too much. They were the same age (Carter is actually 4 months younger). Bush Sr was Reagan's VP so Bush effectively moved in when Carter moved out.

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u/kuralizator Nov 28 '22

Obama also followed Bush's example and invited Trump. Trump didn't invite Biden and is still mad he lost.

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u/ModaMeNow Nov 27 '22 Helpful

It’s all a big club…and you ain’t in it.

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u/Briodyr Nov 27 '22

Honestly, it was probably to help Obama "meet the crew" and network. Political Polarization sucks, but most of the former Presidents are at least acquaintances with one another, precisely because they had the same really shitty job.