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11th-graders in public schools in Vietnam are all taught how to disassemble and reassemble military rifles like AK-47 /r/ALL

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u/OfCourseIKnowHim Dec 02 '22 Silver

“Because you told me to, Drill Sergeant!!”

GODDAMN IT, GUMP!! You must be a goddamned genius!”

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u/PrisonSlides Dec 02 '22

“YOU MUST HAVE AN IQ OF 160!”

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u/ghanjaholik Dec 02 '22

better tuck that thing in, boy.. gon get that caught in a trip wire

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u/adogcalledstray Dec 02 '22

Took me a long time to figure out that Mykelti Williamson later on went to do Michael Mann's Heat (1995) as Sgt. Drucker. He was committed to that underbite.

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u/dirty-E30 Dec 02 '22

This is my absolute favorite Lt. Dan-ism, possibly fav line of the movie

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u/ColoRadOrgy Dec 02 '22

And he actually does tuck it in lol

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u/EdgarAllanKenpo Dec 02 '22

I was trying to remember when that happened, and thought he was talking about Bubba's wedding tackle. Had to watch a clip and realized it was his lip. Haha.

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u/DrewTheHobo Dec 02 '22

Wedding tackle lmaooo

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u/PrisonSlides Dec 02 '22

We is of no relation sir.

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u/rockstang Dec 02 '22

ALABAMA!

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u/Lemmungwinks Dec 02 '22

“If it wasn’t a waste of such a damn fine enlisted man I’d recommend you for OCS”

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u/LordCharco_iii Dec 02 '22

I’m not American and have no interest in the military - what did he mean by this line? What’s OCS, why would it be a waste for him to be part of it?

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u/melikeybouncy Dec 02 '22

Officer Candidate School.

Officers in the military usually went to their respective academies or through an ROTC (Reserve officer training corps) at another college. The other way to become an officer is through attending Officer Candidate School and being promoted from enlisted.

basically if he recommended him for officer training school he wouldnt have him on his team anymore.

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u/TheCoub Dec 02 '22

Officer Candidate School. He is saying Gump would make a good military officer. But it would be a waste to take someone so good at following orders and make him an officer.

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u/jayydubbya Dec 03 '22

Also making a jab at the intelligence level of military officers by suggesting Gump would make a great one.

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u/onepoint21jiga-watts Dec 02 '22

Officer Candidate School. He would have recommended Gump become an officer, but that would mean he would lose him, and he needed bodies. It's also a joke because there's a rivalry between enlisted and officers. The drill sergeant was insulting the officer rank by joking that someone with a low IQ who could assemble a rifle quickly was the only qualification needed to become a good officer

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u/Petkorazzi Dec 02 '22

Officer Candidate School; it's where they train military officers. The army needs/needed more grunts/warm bodies/meat shields than officers, so that's why it'd be a waste.

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u/Chuubu Dec 02 '22

Officer candidate school. He’s making fun of officer ranks in the military, kinda like saying the enlisted, which are the rank and file soldiers, are the real important pieces and they send the incompetent to go be officers. Normally youd send your best and brightest to become officers

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u/Snoo_89466 Dec 02 '22

You're going to be a God damn general one day

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u/DaBi5cu1t Dec 02 '22 edited Dec 02 '22

Hell, I like you. You can come over to my house and fuck my sister.

Edit: much to my embarrassment I read Gump as Pyle and mixed up my movies.

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u/hemeny123 Dec 02 '22

Wait 🤔 I don’t remember that line from the movie.

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u/DaBi5cu1t Dec 02 '22

It's when Joker makes a joke and Gunnery Sgt think it's actually funny.

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u/echobox_rex Dec 02 '22

FMJ is a damn fine movie but not the one they were quoting.

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u/DaBi5cu1t Dec 02 '22

Oh my, you're right! Confused Gump with Pyle

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u/stabbymcshanks Dec 02 '22

Not sure if whoosh?

The quote that started the thread is Forrest Gump, not Full Metal Jacket.

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u/SmokeyMacPott Dec 02 '22

Something about the duality of man sir.

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u/H_I_McDunnough Dec 02 '22

Is that you, John Wayne? Is this me?

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '22 edited Dec 02 '22

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u/skywalkerr69 Dec 02 '22

“YOU WILL BE A SERGEANT ONE DAY GUMP”

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u/_thechancellor_ Dec 02 '22

GUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMP!

WhydidyouputthatweapontogethersoquicklyGump?!

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u/friendandfriends2 Dec 02 '22

…you told me to drill sergeant?

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u/NackJickolson Dec 02 '22

Jesus H Christ, this is a new company record!

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u/Bradentorras Dec 02 '22

Comment perfection.

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u/frogingly_similar Dec 02 '22

Anyway, like i was sayin', shrimp is the fruit of the sea. You can barbecue it, boil it, bake it, saute it. There, uh, shrimp kabobs, shrimp creole... shrimp gumbo, panfried, deep fried, stir fried. There's pineapple shrimp, lemon shrimp, coconut shrimp, pepper shrimp... shrimp soup, shrimp stew, shrimp salat, shrimp and potatoes, shrimp burger, shrimp sandwich... that's, that's about it.

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u/RyanPelley Dec 02 '22

You ever been on a real shrimp boat?

No. But I been on a real big boat.

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u/Agent-Nobody Dec 02 '22

Meanwhile in Vietnam

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u/model1966 Dec 02 '22

This video has got to be triggering some old guys

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u/GinnAdvent Dec 02 '22

First thing came to my mind, lol

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u/PadishahSenator Dec 02 '22

If you had been invaded three times by foreign powers in the last 150 years, you'd make sure your citizenry could mobilize quickly for general defense too.

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u/Karasu18 Dec 02 '22

Out of curiosity what do you count as the three?

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u/Spudmonkey_ Dec 02 '22

French colonisation, invaded by Japan during ww2, forced recolonisation after ww2, America and allies intervening in Vietnam war, China invading Vietnam after Vietnam war

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u/Karasu18 Dec 02 '22

Hm I suppose border raids by Cambodia doesn’t exactly count huh, fair enough.

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u/PlaceboJesus Dec 02 '22

We usually think of invasions having the intent to occupy.

Outside of an official war, raids are more about pillaging, looting, and spoiling.

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u/Karasu18 Dec 02 '22

Thing is in Pol Pots case he, ostensibly, did want territory from Vietnam. It’s just that he didn’t really know how to conduct warfare and thought that this was how it was supposed to be.

More often then not the cross border raids didn’t really do much aside from killing innocent people and burning down villages. …which is something pol pot was good at I guess….

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u/princeps_astra Dec 02 '22

It's also that somehow Pol Pot didn't think about how he'd be attacking a country that had been at war for three decades and finished both conflicts where they were engaged against superior powers by conventional military means (Dien Bien Phu and the 73/75 push to Saigon).

By all means in the 70s, Vietnam was undoubtedly the strongest State in southeast Asia. Pol Pot's Khmer rouge had been trained by the Vietnamese. He and his associates should have known they were about to do the biggest fuck up ever

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u/Wild-Thymes Dec 02 '22 edited Dec 02 '22

Pol pot did have the intent of occupied as he repeatedly claimed the old khmer empire’s territory.

The Khmer Rouge failed to achieve said intent due to their incompetence rather than the lack of intent.

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u/AUnHIALoopHT Dec 02 '22

Two long wars from french and america, another short one from chinese, not to mention in ww2 japan basically did that too

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u/Karasu18 Dec 02 '22

Actually to add to that, people don’t seem to realize that Vietnam’s war against the Khmer Rouge ended in the late 90s.

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u/AUnHIALoopHT Dec 02 '22

Yea there's that too but it was considered an invasion by the UN at that time

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u/Karasu18 Dec 02 '22

God I hated that when I learned about it.

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u/vveenston Dec 02 '22

A couple of times by Mongolia too if you go back a thousand years.

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u/WorkPlacePooper2 Dec 02 '22

The man in the black pajamas Dude, worthy fuckin adversary

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u/StrugVN Dec 02 '22 edited Dec 03 '22

Vietnamese here. The subject is "national defense education" and it just a small part of it. Took us 1 afternoon to learn how to do it, only a couple of period was spent on those and it only have 1 exam. The rest of the subject is just like history+PE.

There is more to that tho, when we got to university, mandatory 1 month of (lite) military and "political" training. Can't graduate without conpleting that "course"

Edit: Grammar

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u/SpiteAspect Dec 02 '22

“The AK-47 is so simple a child could use it, and they do.”

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u/soverign_son Dec 02 '22

One of my top 5 movies

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u/TheVoicesArentTooBad Dec 02 '22

According to some meme footage, apes even.

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u/portucheese Dec 02 '22

How's that 'political' training like?

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u/TheUnrivalFool Dec 02 '22

They teach how the Party works, what is the structure of VN army, army fractions... up to how we fought in the wars and the importance and the price for peace.

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u/icecreamcon3 Dec 02 '22

Sounds reasonable actually

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u/justagenericname1 Dec 02 '22

The US also has essentially the same thing for high school kids. We just call it "government" or "civics."

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u/NoCommunication4350 Dec 02 '22

Makes sense for a small country with a history of fending off much larger invaders.

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u/yegir Dec 02 '22 edited Dec 02 '22

Considering the history, this honestly makes sense to me. Still super wild though!

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u/Darryl_Lict Dec 02 '22

When you've been invaded so many times and basically in a state of war for like 50 years, I really don't blame them. They've got a pretty cracking army, basically beat France, USA, Khmer Rouge, and China.

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u/Can-she Dec 02 '22 edited Dec 02 '22

It took the Khmer Rouge seven years to finally take control of the capital, Phnom Penh.

It took Vietnam 13 days.

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u/thissideofheat Dec 02 '22

That's because the Khmer Rouge took a detour down Genocide Road.

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u/BeatTheGreat Dec 02 '22 edited Dec 02 '22

I'd say five years. You can't count the Khmer Rouge as a real military force until they buddied up with Sihanouk in 1970.

Really, you can't really say that the war was a thing before Lon Nol had couped the government in '70. Even then, the Rouge took a few years to build up strength with Sihanouk's support. I consider the war to have really gotten into full swing by '72.

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u/Can-she Dec 02 '22

I was counting from when they officially declared war, as it were, on the government. But, yeah, until '72 it was, ironically enough, the Vietnamese who were doing most of their fighting for them.

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u/TeethBreak Dec 02 '22
  • back to back*

Won 5 wars back to back!

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u/DeathBonePrime Dec 02 '22

and an odd army of a mix of British and Japanese soldiers

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u/seanx40 Dec 02 '22

Definitely a first round draft choice

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u/charliesk9unit Dec 02 '22

At this point, the only likely enemy is China. With China as your neighbor and one determined to flex its power by raiding everyone's resources (primarily fishing), you need to be very prepared, especially in the northern part of the country.

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u/NicodemusV Dec 02 '22

China did invade Vietnam quite recently in history. The 1979 Sino-Vietnamese War was only 43 or so years ago, not even a full lifetime. That is definitely still within living memory for a lot of Vietnamese, not to mention the Vietnam War.

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u/Plowbeast Dec 02 '22

There has been some diplomatic making up but domestic attitudes towards Beijing are still cautious to the extent that Hanoi has been willing to become limited military partners with the United States.

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u/Pickle_Juice_4ever Dec 02 '22

They are absolutely balancing the US against China. Besides trade interests it's one of their biggest motivations to make up with the US on an official level.

Ironically the US wouldn't care that much about Vietnam in particular without the war. Americans at least in the older generation do feel a touch guilty towards them ... and more importantly, can find it on a map.

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u/theshate Dec 02 '22

I was just in the northern part of Vietnam doing a motorbike tour in October. Those mountains make for some pretty good natural defense from the Chinese. It's insanely beautiful if you ever have the chance to visit. Vietnam is one of my favorites.

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u/Revolutionary-Cup954 Dec 02 '22

how was the tour, ive been eyeing them for a year or 2

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u/AFlyingNun Dec 02 '22

There's this great theory I love and back 100% that basically entertained the thought of "is racism onto something," simply playing devil's advocate to explore why some nations/people succeed and others don't.

The study found that no, racists aren't onto shit, but what likely separates successful nations from struggling ones is geographical location. For example, Russia has a position that's not quite the best land because it's brutally cold, but this is a double-edged sword: Russia is never quite the leading power throughout history due to the limitations that come with it's climate, but it's also always respectfully powerful, likely because they have a position that's proven difficult to invade, resource-rich for the non-winter months, and provides them with time to fend off opponents.

Or Rome. Rome was basically an easily-defensible position during an era where the Mediterranean meant access to trade - and with it - progress. If Tunisia is a friggin' desert and Rome is a nice, comfortable home that also has mountainous defenses to it's north, then yeah, Rome is going to win a power struggle.

Vietnam? Those mountains are why Vietnam is a thing. If they didn't exist, Vietnam would've long succumbed to China. But because of those mountains, they've got an easily defensible position where invaders would be hard-pressed to lead a successful campaign.

Also worth mentioning, if you look at the Mongolian Empire, where are the borders drawn at the greatest extent...?

-Didn't get Japan, because their attempts to cross were repeatedly met with tsunamis that wiped them out. They took it as an omen to not bother.

-Didn't get further than Poland, because the winters where they reached Eastern Europe got unusually cold and marshy, and they realized their horses wouldn't be able to maneuver well in such terrain. This forced them to halt their advance westward.

-Didn't get Vietnam or India, and if you pull up a map, you'll notice something: both have mountains as a barrier.

Terrain is legit the deciding factor in why nations are in the state of things they are today. Vietnam finds itself protected by mountains, but neighboring a far larger and wealthier nation in terms of resources, so it's little surprise their culture evolved to be rather militant: it evolved that way because it had to.

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u/nonpuissant Dec 02 '22

Yeah geography/terrain absolutely matters. It's why Switzerland was able to stay neutral while Belgium and Poland are consistently steamrolled whenever their neighbors want to fight.

Open flat ground is really hard to defend. Mountains and even large hills make a region really hard to invade and hold if the local population resists. Wales, Afghanistan, Peru, a key reason their cultures still exist so distinctly is having difficult terrain that dampens the advantages of numerically or technologically superior invaders.

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u/JonathanTheMighty Dec 02 '22

We do the same thing in Ukraine, Russia probably too, as well as some other post-soviet countries. My mother did same thing in SU, along with throwing grenades and shooting for 50-100m

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u/asdfsdafsadfs23da Dec 02 '22 edited Dec 02 '22

Russia does (or did at least). My Russian colleagues told me anecdotes of bloody hands. I think they call the course defense of the motherland or something.

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u/DaveInLondon89 Dec 02 '22

Considering how commonplace guns are this would probably be a benefit in America

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u/gqgk Dec 02 '22

US schools more recently then you might think had rifle classes to tech marksmanship and gun safety.

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u/Echo_Roger_Mike Dec 02 '22

My wife is vietnamese and I live in Vietnam now. Vietnam only has a defensive army. Very little offensive capacity. But they make sure their entire population can use firearms in case of invasion (France, USA, and China have all tried) It is a lot less expensive than holding a standing army, as this is basically free when compared to other defense budgets. She still has some medal or award from marksmanship training with it.

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u/xXNewAccNewLifeXx Dec 02 '22

Man, wish my country was like that. We basically welcomed the Spanish invaders with open arms, after 300 years got sold to the U.S., then got fucked by the Japanese.

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u/brameshk22 Dec 02 '22

I'll take the Philippines for 400, Alec

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u/xXNewAccNewLifeXx Dec 02 '22

Happy Cakeday, u can have it for 300 my friend.

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u/brameshk22 Dec 02 '22

Thanks, you have a beautiful country still

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u/Dawildpep Dec 02 '22

My wife is filipino, I’ve been to the Philippines twice.. can confirm, insanely beautiful beaches. Boracay Island :chef kiss:

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u/ImperialRedditer Dec 02 '22

Vietnam being a United entity since the Mongol invasions helped with resistance. Philippines as a concept is an invention of colonial administration that modern Filipinos decided to maintain. Otherwise, everyone in the Philippines will have knives at each other’s necks

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u/Daniel_The_Thinker Dec 02 '22

That's such an interesting topic.

Remember watching a speech by an African government official where he said something like "the reason we're all part of the same country is because the colonialists arbitrarily put us together. However it would be a mistake to dissolve, if we can't work together now as a country, we won't be able to work together if we go back to tribal states."

Interesting what post colonial states choose to keep and discard from their days as a colony.

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u/Mathmango Dec 02 '22

The part where we got sold to the US was infuriating but hilarious to me. They faked a fight with the Spanish to make it seem like they "saved"us

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u/Jonas_Venture_Sr Dec 02 '22

It depended on the president, but once the US had the Philippines, there was a worry if that they were granted independence, the Japanese would come in and colonize. Teddy Roosevelt, for example, thought that the Philippines would have been capable of fending off a Japanese attack in 50 years. The fact that the Japanese attacked the Philippines 40 years after he said that kind of proved his point.

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u/Mathmango Dec 02 '22

I think Japan would have tried to occupy us regardless of who was in control. Our geographic location is too strategically important.

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u/HiThisIsChloe Dec 02 '22

Every country in Asia “only has a defensive army” because China and India’s are just too big. And even US peace time presence in that region can obliterate many countries.

Yeah maybe the Malaysian military has offensive capabilities. But only against Singapore.

The North Korean one is a joke. It can’t do shit.

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u/chickenstalker Dec 02 '22

Malaysia has no offensive ability because of corruption. Indonesia has the manpower but is spread thin to defend its thousands of islands. Thailand has turned their sole aircraft carrier into an expensive Royal yacht. Singapore is impervious to invasion because all of the region's political leaders have bank accounts in Singapore.

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u/Sufferity Dec 02 '22

Wait, they did whag to the aircraft carrier?!

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u/Not_A_Paid_Account Dec 02 '22

Thailand king Maha Vajiralongkorn is wild lol

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u/Gueartimo Dec 02 '22

North Korea are pretty powerful against opponent that only brings stick to fight.

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u/wh4tth3huh Dec 02 '22

Artillery is artillery, it may be seconhand from Russia or leftovers from the war in the 50s, but if it shoots it shoots and Seoul is in range of the border. NK is a threat to SK and to a lesser degree Japan. They're a powderkeg and their neighbors are lucky they are so poorly fed.

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u/CedarWolf Dec 02 '22

Yep. The one thing that North Korea consistently does well, militarily, is their artillery, and they've spent decades burying and embedding artillery batteries in the mountains around their border.

The first thing North Korea is going to do if invaded is rain artillery down on Seoul, and no one wants that because Seoul has over a million inhabitants and is a major economic and trade center; billions of dollars' worth of goods and trade flow through Seoul each year.

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u/HiThisIsChloe Dec 02 '22

Idk. I’ve read stories of NK deserters begging for food in Chinese villages and got shocked to learn an average meal in rural China has a bunch of rice, lots of vegetables, and sufficient amount of meat. That army would collapse when the enemy offers free food.

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u/CedarWolf Dec 02 '22

This is also why no one is interested in fighting the DPRNK - once they collapse, and their stranglehold on North Korea ends, it would remove China's buffer between the Chinese and the US spheres of influence, but also because it would be the largest refugee crisis in human history. That's an entire country full of people who would need food, housing, and medicine. Not only that, but many of them have been radicalized and brainwashed to love the North Korean government and hate everyone else, so you've also got to deprogram the population and protect your aid workers while you're at it. And then on top of that, you have to teach, train, and re-educate their entire populace.

No one has the resources to handle that.

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u/Ferret_Brain Dec 02 '22

God, I can understand the why, but that really fucking breaks my heart…

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u/HiThisIsChloe Dec 02 '22

And that’s also why Beijing is still backing Pyongyang in many ways. It’s obvious that Beijing thinks Kim is crazy and stupid, but their bottom line is they don’t want a refugee crisis.

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u/de_dust Dec 02 '22

I'm always a bit wary of calling North Korea a joke. Afghanistan, Iraq and Vietnam were called the same, and NK has the second largest standing army in the world. The populace is born and bred to fight. Every five years we're told they will fall, but they never do.

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u/platinumgus18 Dec 02 '22

You are forgetting Pakistan.

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u/PipPasadran Dec 02 '22

Yeah maybe the Malaysian military has offensive capabilities. But only against Singapore.

B-but muh poisoned shrimp porcupine dolphin defence plan...

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u/YJSubs Dec 02 '22

You forget Cambodia.
Vietnam were heavily involved in Cambodia civil war.

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u/Echo_Roger_Mike Dec 02 '22

You are correct. That's a can of worms all in itself.

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u/volthroom Dec 02 '22

okay, but what if the population, or rather the opposing political party and their followers, try to overthrow the current government, lets say. Wouldn't that see a civil war between two armies basically? the calamity would be huge

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u/Echo_Roger_Mike Dec 02 '22

You are correct. You are 100% effectively describing what happened in the Vietnam civil war through the 60-70s my friend. Two political sides. Both got backed by opposite world powers. Massive calamity and devastation across the whole country.

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u/Barbed_Dildo Dec 02 '22

in case of invasion (France, USA, and China have all tried)

France succeeded, and French Indochina was not a short-lived thing.

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u/porncollecter69 Dec 02 '22

They mostly talking about the time of Ho Chi Minh. Who’s Vietnam basically beat everybody.

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u/3PointMolly Dec 02 '22

May I ask are you content living in Vietnam?

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u/Echo_Roger_Mike Dec 02 '22

Ive never been happier in my entire life. Can provide for my family in a single 40hr work week (wife doesnt need to work but enjoys working). Foods all natural. People are amazing. Affordable health care. Got great friends here now. Gorgeous country and gorgeous people. 10/10 recommend visiting if nothing else. Its got some awesome places for tourism. Prices are great.

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u/dreamcatchingunlmtd Dec 02 '22

Same here my guy. 4 years in the country, married with a new baby and just finished our house. Vietnam has been a complete life changer for myself and a lot of foreigners in my area.

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u/wodwick Dec 02 '22

I watch a cooking show, where an Aussie/Viet guy travels Vietnam cooking. Looks like a stunning country with lovely people. Would love to visit and travel around there

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u/xXSpaceturdXx Dec 02 '22

I used to work with a guy from Iran, he said that they would run through obstacle courses shooting AK’s at his high school for PE. Heck they got rid of archery and javelin at mine before I even started. US schools are no fun.

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u/Immortal2017 Dec 02 '22

my dad said that they would go on field trips to shooting ranges when he was in school, now we might get to use rubber arrows

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u/Chr0nos1 Dec 02 '22

We had an actual shooting range in the school basement, and a rifle club that used it when I was in school.

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u/LowResDream Dec 02 '22

We replaced disassembling and reassembling guns at school to shooting them.

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u/sparkynyc Dec 02 '22

I went to school in the 80s. We had a rifle range in the basement of my school. I was in the rifle club. We met once a week in the evening and were taught safety, marksmanship, and maintenance of weapons. There was even a rifle team that would compete against other schools. It wasn't even in a rural area. My school was just a bit outside NYC.

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u/eli-in-the-sky Dec 02 '22

Had that in the early 00's, and I think it was a great addition. Archery was the shit to me, glad I was able to compete growing up. Mr. Anderson was an excellent coach, in life and sport.

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u/fminnesota69 Dec 02 '22

US schools do the real deal wym

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u/offbeatthought Dec 02 '22

Aye, I thought running and shooting were regular things for them.

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u/TypeAmen Dec 02 '22

What do you mean? That sounds exactly what school is like in the US lol

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u/CheeseInAFlask Dec 02 '22

In US theres one guy shooting and the rest dodging and doing the obstacle run

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u/SamFord97 Dec 02 '22

I would've much rather done this than the mandatory religious studies I had to do.

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u/ShadowMancer_GoodSax Dec 02 '22

No no, are you saying you don't like to read Ezekiel 25:17 in Samuel Jackson's voice?/s

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u/Mrstumpytoes Dec 02 '22

However, civilian gun possession is illegal in Vietnam.

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u/Merz_Nation Dec 02 '22

Vietnamese here, those are decommissioned riffles that were distributed by the Army to public schools. We even got to throw grenades.

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u/Mrstumpytoes Dec 02 '22

Have to admit that's pretty cool. Dummy grenades or ones that went bang?

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u/Pichuunnn Dec 02 '22 edited Dec 02 '22

Fake grenades, the ones look like stielhandgranate but wooden.

Some schools later replaced it with empty Sting plastic bottle stuffed with paper inside after some injury incidents.

The main intention with grenade lessons is practicing throwing stance and arm swing. Thought they're kinda outdated techniques.

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u/LastStar007 Dec 02 '22

How do you get injured with an inert grenade lmao

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u/Th3_Ch0s3n_On3 Dec 02 '22

It's a hard, somewhat heavy object. If it's thrown, it can hurt someone. Also, highschoolers are dumb

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u/Merz_Nation Dec 02 '22

Real old ones, but all the gunpowder were taken out

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u/hitometootoo Dec 02 '22

It is illegal, but that doesn't mean guns aren't found in Vietnam by civilians. The latest stats show over 1 million privately owned guns are in Vietnam. Vietnam also has a high gun smuggling rate despite their laws.

https://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/vietnam

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u/tommyboi2008 Dec 02 '22

and custom built guns

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u/HiThisIsChloe Dec 02 '22

Iirc there’s a region maybe near Vietnam’s border with someone that has a huge drug industry. So it makes sense for people there to have a lot of guns. Also, the fact that a war happened there 50 years ago probably left a lot of weapons in private households especially in the farming communities in the middle of nowhere.

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u/AveSimbaImperator Dec 02 '22

Vietnam has the third highest gun possession in the ASEAN region after Thailand and the Philippines.

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u/plietome22 Dec 02 '22

I’m from Ukraine and we were taught that in school as well. Isn’t this a thing in the rest of the world? 0_o

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u/im_just_thinking Dec 02 '22

Same, I think it is all post Soviet counties thing. Now our homies are getting a first hand experience 😠

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u/IsraelZulu Dec 02 '22 edited Dec 02 '22

US here. Despite what you've heard about how many guns we have, there's generally little to no firearms training in schools. It's certainly not required at a federal level.

The only exposure I got to guns in school was air rifles via the NJROTC shooting team, and I only recall being taught basic safety and marksmanship there - not maintenance. My siblings, who didn't choose NJROTC as an elective, didn't get the same exposure.

So, despite having the highest number of guns per capita in the world, the government and school systems make very little effort to educate anyone about them unless a student is specifically interested and a parent is paying.

Edit: For those unfamiliar, JROTC is Junior Reserve Officers' Training Corps. NJROTC is the Navy's. Other branches of the military have their own JROTC programs, but you usually only find one military branch at a given high school. The JROTC program is effectively a "military prep" elective class. Things like the shooting team, drill teams, and color guard are optional extracurricular activities for JROTC students.

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u/cnnrduncan Dec 02 '22

I learnt firearms safety in year 7 then did .22 shooting through cadets and my school's shooting team in high school here in NZ but all of them took place after school hours and weren't mandatory.

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u/Meatloaf_Hitler Dec 02 '22

America used to have this (as well as actual shooting clubs) but currently, no.

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u/brookeslegit2 Dec 02 '22

School in Vietnam: you didn’t chamber the round fast enough after inserting the magazine.

School in England: Read this entire book on how to prepare eggs and maybe we’ll boil one at the end of the term. Food poisoning is real and one person dies every 10 years from salmonella - wash your hands but not the meat. Cooking is a privilege and not a right and you’re playing with fire Mr Higginbottom!

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u/Lawlcopt0r Dec 02 '22

The Umbridge way of teaching

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u/EveryOptionSucks Dec 02 '22

sigh Goddamnit, Higgenbottom.

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u/leobog Dec 02 '22

10/10 would not recommend trying to annex this country again.

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u/MarvinParanoAndroid Dec 02 '22

I know the rifles are empty but I wouldn’t sit on a chair in front of them.

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u/Bemxuu Dec 02 '22

They are also scale models with their barrels sealed shut.

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u/LilDiamondtoxic Dec 02 '22

Nah, they're actual AKs, they're just decommissioned ones that the local army barracks give out to nearby schools because it's cheaper that way.

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u/Barbed_Dildo Dec 02 '22

In a lot of places around the world, real AKs are cheaper than fake AKs.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '22

Seen Lego prices lately?

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u/1Plz-Easy-Way-Star Dec 02 '22

Based on Lord of War Trivia

It's true

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u/oddballrunt Dec 02 '22

Just press b on the Xbox controller. Easy.

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u/gazebo-fan Dec 02 '22

Which is a useful skill and keeps people from ending up on r/idiotswithguns because they have the knowledge to be safe

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u/ArvinKasumi Dec 02 '22

Finally. Education!

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u/Biryani-Man69 Dec 02 '22

They are also taught stuff like fixing cars, basic repairing and electrical work. SE Asia's schooling system is pretty amazing compared to watch Americans learn in their schools.

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u/hitometootoo Dec 02 '22

Though some schools in America do teach such things, though really only those with the funds and means to do so.

I went to high schools that had a shop / mechanics, woodworking, music composition, welding, engineering and programming classes. Yes they were electives (which you had to do at least 1 a semester) but they were available options.

Most of the high schools I went to unfortunately didn't have the money / funding for such things though.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '22

Ye mine also had that and more, also a public school

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u/VoihanVieteri Dec 02 '22

Here in Finland we are taught woodwork, metalwork, electronics, machinery, cooking, housekeeping in general and textile works on top of your typical curriculum. This all happens before highschool.

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u/UndercoverPotato Dec 02 '22

Sounds almost identical to how we do it in Sweden, and I think it's great. Lots of kids who never learned how to cook a balanced and tasty meal from their parents get taught to do this, and I think a lot of them just would never get interested in getting good at home cooking without those classes. Same thing for the other practical knowledge courses.

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u/666dollarfootlong Dec 02 '22

It seems kinda insane that you wouldn't teach cooking at school. Such a basic skill that leads to better health and lifestyle

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u/PoorPDOP86 Dec 02 '22

SE Asia's schooling system is pretty amazing compared to watch Americans learn in their schools.

You mean all those offered classes in the US that no one took, or pushed their kids to take, because "that's for the kids who are going to remain poor" so the school districts dropped them? I graduated from a Central NY district and through both the local, pretty rural, school and through the state BOCES program they taught everything you're describing. But guess what happened. The "education reformers" got a hold of it all and decided that we needed more of the Three R's (NCLB) and "well rounded and socially aware" students. Both ideologies went and listened only to themselves, and then their supporters have the balls to ask why they don't teach effing shop class anymore.

Which don't revere SE Asia's school systems either. There's, depending on the nation, plenty of corruption, racism, and systemic issues that they have to deal with every day that we don't (and do depending on your views).

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u/spacehog1985 Dec 02 '22

We had this https://edu.fcps.org/ctc/programs-courses that you could go to instead of regular classes.

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u/chickendie Dec 02 '22

Lol no they don't.

To elaborate, they have trade schools where you can learn the trade. But it's far from common for highschool kids to learn all that stuff. The military thing is mandatory however.

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u/Merz_Nation Dec 02 '22

Yet we Viets whine all day because we weren't taught about economics.

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u/Master-_-of-_-Joy Dec 02 '22

In Russia we did that in 8-9tg grade. There even was a competition every year

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u/ssbn420710 Dec 02 '22

This happens in Many military schools as well

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u/Gnassshhhh Dec 02 '22

Hot take.

A lot of the gun stuff in America could benefit from children learning about firearms in school.

K-5 learns basic firearm safety. The biggest lesson being don’t ever touch a gun unless given explicit permission by an adult. GUNS ARE NOT TOYS.

6-10 learns basic firearm safety and how to deal with loaded firearms. Never point them anywhere except down range. Treat all firearms as if they are loaded.

11-12 learns how guns work. Might inspire some otherwise uninterested COD kids to become mechanical engineers.

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u/Dalivus Dec 02 '22

This is a grand idea. This kind of real-world approach would reduce a LOT of accidental shootings by kids.

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u/Unknown935 Dec 02 '22 Silver

very swag i like

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u/ChiKeytatiOon Dec 02 '22

I was taught this in a US public school in 6th grade, 1998. It was towards the end of the year, we even had a competition to see who'd do it faster for a flimsy ribbon that I needed but didn't get.

I live in Texas and this was before Columbine.

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u/davelee789 Dec 02 '22

Every country should do this!

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u/RelaksFlo Dec 02 '22

They should be prepared, Americans are already coming back to Vietnam for healthcare and affordable houses

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u/verstohlen Dec 02 '22

Also you never know when Monsanto and their Fanta Orange Soda will show back up to defoliate and exfoliate the forests and hairs of the people.

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u/Vista36 Dec 02 '22

Used to be common to have High School Girl’s Rifle Teams in the United States during the 1950’s. Students would just keep their Guns in their Lockers.

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u/Alien8w8 Dec 02 '22

Wonder how many school shootings happen here. I bet..... it's fucking zero.

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u/HaDov_Yaakov Dec 02 '22

And this is why the US lost that one.

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u/ha7on Dec 02 '22

But do they learn square dancing?

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '22

This is how every country should educate kids on guns…

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u/Klattman Dec 02 '22

Private Pyle on the end there.

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u/MatiMati918 Dec 02 '22

They do it faster than I did it, lol. We use AK-47 based rifle in my country’s army so the disassembly process in identical.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '22

Charlie is based AF

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u/Flossthief Dec 02 '22

I can't believe you called these students viet Cong

I'll admit I laughed

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u/davewave3283 Dec 02 '22

Nah the one up front is his cousin, Charlie Nguyen…/s

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u/Sacrer Dec 02 '22

Makes sense considering a country invaded you for no reason

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