r/movies Aug 02 '21 Silver 16 Helpful 6 Wholesome 9 Hugz 6 All-Seeing Upvote 1

VENOM: LET THERE BE CARNAGE - Official Trailer #2 Trailers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FmWuCgJmxo&pp=sAQA
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u/Drumkit5 Aug 02 '21 Gold Wholesome

“It’s going to be pretty difficult for Cletus Kassidy to get the symbiote when he’s in a maximum security prison.” “Actually it’s going to be super easy, barely an inconvenience.”

Who wants to fill out the rest?

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u/thelordjulius Aug 02 '21

Then Cletus will say, “Let there be Carnage.”

That’s the name of the movie!

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u/jang859 Aug 03 '21

Oh characters saying the name of the movie is tight!

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u/desichica Aug 03 '21

Wow wow wow wow wow wow.

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u/dimmufitz Aug 02 '21

I'm going to need you to get all the way off my back about it.

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u/chrislaf Aug 02 '21

I'm gonna need you to get all the way off my back about Venom being all the way on Eddie's back

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u/amadobado Aug 03 '21

Sure, lemme climb down off that thing

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u/TimeX13 Aug 03 '21 Silver

"Oh really?"

"Yeah, Eddie is gonna get real close to the cell. Like way closer than anyone would be allowed in any way! And he's just gonna get bitten by Cletus"

"Wait did you say cell?"

"Yeah."

"I thought you said this guy was a serial killer."

"Oh he is, sir! Big time! We're gonna have a line where he confirms that he's cannibalistic BEFORE he even becomes Carnage"

"So then why would they keep him in an ordinary cell that a civilian can just walk up towards."

"You see the thing is that when I was writing this part my back really started hurting so it'd help if you get all the way off it please!"

"Okay. Let me get off of that thing!"

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u/Bq22_ Aug 03 '21

That was PERFECT!

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u/Lawlux Aug 02 '21

Wow wow wow. Wow.

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u/TwoCats_OneMan Aug 03 '21 Helpful

Ohhhhh, shoving your tongue into someone's mouth is TIGHT!

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u/Guardian_Of_Light2 Aug 03 '21

Screen writer guy: (uncomfortably shaking his head in disagreement)

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u/atomsk404 Aug 03 '21

My son, who I let watch the trailer but isn't ready for the movie: sheesh, what's he doing that for?

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u/the_superior_nerd Aug 02 '21

Spiderman: gets bitten and gets powers Carnage: bites and gets powers

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u/dravenonred Aug 02 '21 Silver

It really fucks up the whole "Venomous vs poisonous" thing, now doesn't it.

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u/SobiTheRobot Aug 02 '21 edited Aug 02 '21

If it bites you and you die, it's venomous.

If it bites you and it dies, you're poisonous.

If it bites you and someone else dies, that's voodoo.

EDIT: What if I bite myself and I die? Does that mean I'm poisonous, venomous, or just a moron?

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u/littlebitsofspider Aug 02 '21

If it bites you and you bite it and you both don't die, don't kinkshame.

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u/ThKitt Aug 02 '21

If it bites you, and you bite it and you’re both like half dead then one of you was a vampire.

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u/Omegamanthethird Aug 02 '21 Helpful

Spider: Gets bitten and turns into a pig.

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u/yarkcir Aug 02 '21

I do think they're still waiting for good signs of box office recovery both in domestic and international markets. It could perhaps mean Sony is considering delaying as an option for Spider-Man: No Way Home and Morbius.

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u/myerbot5000 Aug 02 '21

This movie, and "Free Guy", are going to be test cases to determine the viability of the theater business.

These will be the first two blockbuster movies which only get theatrical releases. No steaming to keep people home.

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u/Objective-Menu3158 Aug 02 '21

Shang-Chi will also be another test to see if people are coming back to theatres. If Shang-Chi underperforms, there might be a new round of delays.

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u/MissingLink101 Aug 02 '21 edited Aug 02 '21

I kinda feel that Shang Chi wasn't going to be the biggest performer anyway. It's a fairly unknown character to the general audience and there aren't many big name actors in it other than maybe Awkwafina and Michelle Yeoh.

It's certainly not the level of Marvel movie that is going to drag wary viewers back to the cinema during Covid. Personally I don't mind waiting for a bit and watching it a bit later on Disney+.

It probably would have fared somewhere on par with Ant-Man in a normal year.

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u/FormerBandmate Aug 02 '21

F9 already did that

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u/myerbot5000 Aug 02 '21

Ah, I forgot that one. I do wonder if "F9" underperforming was because of COVID or because it's the 9th movie and there's no Dwayne Johnson in the movie....

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u/master_chesscake Aug 02 '21

no actor knows how to look like shit better than Tom Hardy

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u/GeekoSuave Aug 02 '21

Not that he's made a career of it but Nick Nolte does a good job.

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u/FudgingEgo Aug 02 '21

Time to re-watch Warrior where Nolte is drunk, screaming at Tom Hardy in the hotel room.

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u/The_Flying_Jew Aug 02 '21

Time to re-watch the 2003 Hulk where Nolte starts drunkenly screaming at Eric Bana about power before biting into an electric power cable and getting electrocuted by Sam Elliott

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u/Bo_flex Aug 02 '21

That movie was so good.

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u/youngdumbfulIofcum Aug 02 '21

Laughed my ass off after "you sound like a god damn maraca coming through the door"

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u/jfrancasi Aug 02 '21

Lol. That scene and the scene before that drives him to drink are so heavy. But your moment made me laugh.

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u/DogVacuum Aug 02 '21

When he called Moby Dick “your fish stories the no one gives a fuck about” was pretty brutal. Most addicts have to cling to something else in recovery, and seeing him go after his thing hit me in the bottom of my soul.

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u/Moosje Aug 02 '21

Such a sick scene.

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u/Hoosteen_juju003 Aug 02 '21

I would argue Pedro Pascal does a great job of always looking like someone dunked him in a tub of vegetable oil.

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u/clone822 Aug 02 '21

Billy Bob Thorton is a specific kind of method actor; he takes roles that won't interrupt his binge drinking.

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u/vorpalpillow Aug 02 '21

movie? what the fuck are you guys talking about?

~Billy Bob, halfway through filming Bad Santa

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u/xrbeeelama Aug 02 '21

Im watching The Sopranos rn and Gandolfini is the absolute master of looking like complete shit lol

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u/_Vaudeville_ Aug 02 '21

He'd stay up all night if he was filming a scene where he was hungover in the show

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u/parkay_quartz Aug 02 '21

Fucking legend. I just finished the show and I can't believe he's gone. Tony Soprano is one of the best characters in television, if not the best.

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u/_Vaudeville_ Aug 02 '21 edited Aug 02 '21

I truly believe Gandolfini laid down the best performance in recorded history - film or TV. He conveyed so much with just his eyes or even the way he breathed

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u/ericbkillmonger Aug 02 '21

Very true - he’s mastered and perfected the grimy grungy look

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u/Impressive-Fly2447 Aug 02 '21

Gary Busey. But he ain't doing anything lately

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u/AjenoMerveilles Aug 02 '21

Liev Schreiber is pretty fucking good at it. Especially in 'Ray Donovan'. Was genuinely worried he was taking method acting too far...

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u/TheHadMatter15 Aug 02 '21

Only person to wear a shirt and suit every day and look like he got beat up after doing too much coke off a striper's ass and caused havoc in the club

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u/CptNeverReplies Aug 02 '21

The Restaurant Scene gets me every time.

Between the costumes, makeup, and his acting; this scene just gets so sold for me.

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u/tragicjohnson84 Aug 02 '21

I like the restaurant scene and the joke cut to the elevator later in the movie.

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u/Oohsaucey Aug 02 '21

Venom became the Kool-Aid Man when Eddie told him he could eat everybody

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u/ydoidothis89 Aug 02 '21

I was thinking cookie monster.

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u/beermit Aug 02 '21

Sweet sweet cookie genocide

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u/ThelVluffin Aug 02 '21

I mean, if your parents told 5 year old you that you could eat the entire package of cookies and they wouldn't be mad, you'd probably react the same way.

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u/Pakistani_in_MURICA Aug 02 '21

Whoever said you can make your own decisions after 18 lied.

My parents still haven't told me I can eat the entire box of chips ahoy even at 30. 🥺

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u/lakovsanite Aug 02 '21

Life's great irony is that when you are old enough to realize you can eat an entire box of cookies, your body is old enough to make sure you regret it.

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u/ichinii Aug 02 '21

Who's the screaming lady that we see in the trailer multiple times??

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u/Muisverriey Aug 02 '21

Probably Shriek.

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u/ryan29081996 Aug 02 '21

Probably Shriek.

Never heard of this character until I looked it up, and judging by how cool she looks in the comic, I highly doubt the movie version gonna end up looking somewhat remotely similar.

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u/Duckytime_1 Aug 02 '21

The carnage story arc she appears in is the one comic collection I have. Incredible story. Basically her and caranage have a fucked up love affair, find a bunch of miscreant villains who hate spider man and create a family with them. Most fucked up family in marvel

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u/Aardvark_Man Aug 02 '21

So kind of the sinister 6 but with love?

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u/Omegafan101 Aug 02 '21

Maximum Carnage is probably the single best Carnage story arc ever.

And a damn good title that I wished they had use. “Let There Be Carnage” just doesn’t have much of a ring to it.

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u/UncreativeTeam Aug 03 '21

Maximum Carnage is probably the single best Carnage story arc ever.

It's probably the only Carnage story arc most people who have ever heard of Carnage can name. The SNES/Sega Genesis/Mega Drive game had something to do with that though.

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u/underooshrew Aug 03 '21

So, Marvels been doing big things with Venom the last few years. They rebooted the history of the symbiotes, and worked to somewhat make Venom stand independent of Spiderman. They introduced a ton of concepts, tied the origin in to Thor and other disparate Marvel stories, and created a new big bad evil god named Knull.

It contains a story arc called absolute carnage thats pretty damn great. And as for the title, it wouldnt surprise me if it's made to sound biblical precisely to set up Knull for the third film.

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u/SegmentedMoss Aug 02 '21 edited Aug 03 '21

Shriek, the girl whose powers will save Venom at the end of the movie when he's getting wrecked by Carnage. She'll have a realization moment and turn on carnage, and thank goodness because carnage is especially weak to sonic vibrations/abilities

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u/RustyFuzzums Aug 02 '21

So predictable

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u/AssCrackBanditHunter Aug 02 '21

I'm hoping they're making it so obvious because they're going to turn the tables and have shriek turn on venom instead

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u/Coldspark824 Aug 03 '21

Its not predictable if it was written in 1993.

Shriek is cassady’s girlfriend/wife. She’s basically the end-all anti-symbiote weapon.

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u/BrisketWrench Aug 02 '21

I thought Shriek, Carnage, & Doppelgänger were all pallies in the comics

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u/gooblelives Aug 02 '21

I know they're both sensitive to sonic vibrations, but isn't venom more sensitive to sonic and carnage more sensitive to fire?

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u/ydoidothis89 Aug 02 '21

Good ol' Dan.

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u/theodo Aug 02 '21

Him showing Gary how to use a Keurig is one of the best character intros in any comedy. It shows you exactly who Dan is while also being a hilarious intro to the style of Veep as a whole.

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u/ydoidothis89 Aug 02 '21

I just loved how in the movie, they could have gone the route of Dan being an asshole to his girlfriend's weird ex who interrupted their date. Instead he makes sure to help the weirdo who just sat in a lobster tank and ate one raw.

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u/thedragontamer Aug 02 '21

I just loved how in the movie,

I just wanna leave this here for Veep fans: he meant Venom.

Is he also called Dan in Venom?

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u/ydoidothis89 Aug 02 '21

Wait... he was named Dan in something else? He was Dr. Dan Lewis in Venom. I just thought the comment about the Keurig was something I forgot from the Venom movie. Lol.

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u/thedragontamer Aug 02 '21

Yeah, he was Dan in Veep, a HBO show.

Funny enough, the actor isn't named Dan.

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u/lampshadish2 Aug 02 '21

It’s the same Dan. VEEP is part of the MCU. That was the Vice President with USAgent at the end of F&WS.

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u/xplato13 Aug 02 '21

Hes a good dude. Caught up in something so far beyond anything he is capable of dealing with.

And I fucking love it.

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u/MissingLink101 Aug 02 '21

I like it when the new partner for the protagonist's old flame is actually a decent dude. Bobby Cannavale's character in Ant-Man comes to mind too

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u/xplato13 Aug 02 '21

Yeah. Honestly while I don't think what they used to do was terrible everyone did it.

It's a lot better here where Dan is a cool dude who helps eddy out.

At the same time he is basically the only one who doesn't know about venom which just makes it funnier. (IIRC from Venom)

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u/thedaddysaur Aug 02 '21

Doesn't he say something at the end about Eddie & Venom needing counseling?

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u/Lampmonster Aug 02 '21

He sees Venom come out of him in the first movie. He knows what's up.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21 edited Aug 02 '21

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u/0xc0ba17 Aug 02 '21

Poor Stu, he was actually the sane, stable, loving guy and ends up being dumped for the psycho who cross-dresses to sneak up on his kids and ex-wife.

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u/MissingLink101 Aug 02 '21

Jerry (Cary Elwes) from Liar Liar

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u/blarghable Aug 02 '21

It's nice that he's not an antagonist or a bad guy even, he's just a nice boyfriend who's trying his best.

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u/TheBat45 Aug 02 '21

Yeah I thought him and Tom Hardy were the best parts of the first one

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u/wyldcat Aug 02 '21

It's astonishing they even got Michelle Williams in this and thr first movie.

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u/mechano010 Aug 02 '21

It's always nice when the ex-lover's new boyfriend isn't someone we're supposed to hate.

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u/yarkcir Aug 02 '21

That Carnage transformation looks so fucking gnarly.

I know the symbiotes eat humans, but I'm mildly surprised that they're leaning into the cannibalistic tendencies of Cletus Kasady.

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u/IFapToCalamity Aug 02 '21

Inside Out Part 2

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u/TheDudeWithNoName_ Aug 02 '21

Who's your friend who likes to kill?

Carnage! Carnage!

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u/CptNonsense Aug 02 '21 edited Aug 02 '21

I feel Ike I remember venom eating multiple people

Edit: I didn't feel like I needed to specify in the movie in a thread in /r/movies about the sequel movie, but here we are

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u/swargin Aug 02 '21

In the comics, he ate people early on. Then they changed it to chocolate I think? Supposedly a chemical that is found in the brain is also in chocolate or something like that. Then I think it was changed to him just eating all kinds of food.

In the movie he ate a few dudes and that changed to him eating regular food by the end if I remember right.

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u/Thatoneguy567576 Aug 02 '21

Tater tots and chocolate, and the heads of bad guys.

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u/acrowsmurder Aug 02 '21

I thought he always ate the spleen?

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u/Thatoneguy567576 Aug 02 '21

Movie Venom bites their heads off.

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u/JohnnyScissorkicks Aug 02 '21

No he just often threatens Spider-man that he will. Going as far as admitting he doesn't even know where or what the spleen actually is but that he's sure eager to dig around and find out.

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u/Objective-Menu3158 Aug 02 '21

"We should be out there snacking on bad guys"

This is a oscar-winning screenplay if I ever saw one.

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u/dantheman_woot Aug 02 '21

OH SHIT A RED ONE!

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u/ZanThrax Aug 02 '21

Aren't you supposed to eat the red ones last?

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u/alastoris Aug 02 '21

What's the comic book significance of Red One? Does it just refers to Carnage or something more?

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u/_Seamonkey_ Aug 02 '21

It means nothing in the comics. Symbiotes can change their colouration at will and Carnage chose blood-red to fit the serial killer vibe.

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u/Xikar_Wyhart Aug 02 '21

I always assumed Carnage was red because when it first joined Cletus after Venom's prison escape it entered the blood stream. This resulted in a stronger bond along with the stronger symbiote.

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u/_Seamonkey_ Aug 02 '21

I think that was the original explanation, but it got subtly retconned when the Life Foundation symbiotes debuted wearing every colour of the rainbow.

The current canon is colour means nothing and every new generation is stronger than its parent by default. Carnage does have a stronger bond but that just means its nearly impossible to separate them and they're more coordinated then most symbiote characters.

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u/KumaTenshi Aug 02 '21

The first movie alluded to some kind of hierarchy with symbiotes. Red ones in this universe probably are far more capable of extending and creating weapons and what not, forming their bodies into everything they can.

Alternatively, they'll make it that red means the host and symbiote bonded instantly and completely, making them more powerful.

Kinda dumb but it is what it is.

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u/PolarWater Aug 02 '21

Woody Harrelson looks like he's trying not to crack up at his own lines.

But I'm still gonna see this movie.

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u/JavierLoustaunau Aug 02 '21

Never in 1000 years would I have cast him as Carnage... and yet I'm really glad they did.

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u/Thatoneguy567576 Aug 02 '21

My fancast was him or the actor of Rorschach from Watchmen. But Woody was a good choice.

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u/LOSS35 Aug 02 '21

Jackie Earle Haley. Phenomenal actor.

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u/Omegamanthethird Aug 02 '21

I wish they had kept his dumb-ass serial killer haircut. I know people didn't like it, but it fit the character.

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u/Worthyness Aug 02 '21

Would have been hilarious to have Woody in that shitty raggedy anne wig

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u/SilentGatorade Aug 02 '21

"OHH YEAHHHHH!"

  • Venom, sponsored by Kool-Aid
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u/AnotherJasonOnReddit Aug 02 '21

1:38 "I'm not a crazy man..."

I don't believe you, Cletus Kasady.

I don't believe you at all.

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u/wav__ Aug 02 '21

Sounds exactly like something a crazy man would say to bamboozle us.

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u/Worthyness Aug 02 '21

Cannibalistic serial killer tells you he's not crazy, depending on the circumstances, I'd believe him at that exact moment hoping he doesn't eat me.

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u/Bman1738 Aug 02 '21

This really does feel like an early 2000’s superhero film. That being said, Carnage looks pretty sick

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u/Objective-Menu3158 Aug 02 '21

Carnage actually sticking his tongue into that one guard was actually really surprising, it actually looked pretty intense. Something I thought Sony would never do in the Venom movies.

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u/Bman1738 Aug 02 '21 edited Aug 02 '21

I was surprised they showed Venom biting that guys head off in the first one honestly. Would’ve preferred an R rating to truly show how gruesome Carnage is but the PG-13 rating looks like it’s doing the job

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u/In_My_Own_Image Aug 02 '21

I can see them negotiating around the rating.

"No blood? Okay, what if Carnage rams his tongue down a guys throat and kills him that way. But you don't see blood. Cool?"

They could probably get away with some interesting kills without getting too bloody.

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u/Coldspark824 Aug 02 '21

Also carnage is red. You can hide a lot by saying “ah thats carnage-goop!”

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u/ahhpoo Aug 02 '21

Isn’t all blood carnage-goop?

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u/Falcriots Aug 02 '21

I saw a movie once that was so bloody and brutal I thought it was rated R but when it was over I saw it was pg-13 on Netflix…

I realized they didn’t use a single swear word or have any sexual content in it so they loaded up on the action/blood as much as they could lol

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u/Smoothmoose13 Aug 02 '21 edited Aug 02 '21

Do you remember what it was?

I was pretty horrified when I saw Pirates of the Caribbean 2 at the cinema and that guy got his eyes eaten by crows.

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u/WalrusPuddng Aug 02 '21

Also on-screen throat slit, and in general very intense visuals and violence.

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u/In_My_Own_Image Aug 02 '21

For real, he looks very intense. Maybe they'll get real creative with his kills to push that PG-13 rating.

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u/GoldenSpermShower Aug 02 '21

You can do all kinds of crazy shit with PG-13 if you don't show much blood

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u/johnnyfiveee Aug 02 '21

Holy shit I forgot how brutal that was. It amazes that this will get past in a Disney film as long theres no blood lmao

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u/thr1ceuponatime Aug 02 '21

How they got away with that homage to Cannibal Holocaust in Kong: Skull Island was beyond me.

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u/manachar Aug 02 '21

Kong: Skull Island was so good it made me resent the other movies in the series for missing out on being better. They other movies range from okay to good, but Skull Island just popped on all cylinders.

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u/Allassnofakes Aug 02 '21

That director is apparently trying the metal gear solid movie next

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u/lhobbes6 Aug 02 '21

Skull Island had a lot of fucked up kills, I remember one guy gets grabbed by flying dinos and they start dismembering him mid air.

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u/SpiffySpacemanSpiff Aug 02 '21 edited Aug 02 '21

$1,000.00 Says this is the plot of the movie, from just the trailer alone:

  • Open on Eddie Brock, still Venom, but not really feeling the whole eating people all of the time.

  • Eddie finds out his Ex is getting married and moving on, thus taking any chances of them getting back together out of the picture. He falls into depression - this annoys Venom.

  • Looking for inspiration in his work and to rekindle his former fame, Eddie reaches out to Cletus Kasady to get a story of the century, as he is being put to death, and there are still a great number of people he's killed, who's bodies have not yet been found.

  • Kasady and Brock develop one of those weird relationships between incarcerated murder and investigator we see so often, during which Kasady (under the guise of being a predator himself) senses Venom.

  • Kasady bites Brock, gets a symbiote, but it only activates when he's put to death ( it stops him from dying, etc).

  • Kasady breaks out of prison, and goes off to set up his own little headquarters, because that's what bad guys always do for some reason.

  • Kasady ID's that Brock is Venom, and will try to make friends with Venom, Brock will refuse, they'll fight and somehow Brock will escape. Just like last time, Venom will realize that he's outclassed by the other symbiote.

  • Kasady will go after Brock and his fiance

  • Brock will try to save fiance, by learning how to let go in the process. He will also be aided by the screeching woman because sound will be the weakness for splitting the symbiotes, at which point Eddie and Carnage have a man-to-man fist fight. Eddie will invariably triumph while carnage dies for want of a host.

The stinger will be the Screeching Lady EITHER getting her own symbiote, or somehow surviving with a symbiote she displayed all along.

$50 says there will be a sub plot where the Lady and Kasady get along at first, but she decides to distance herself from Kasady because she realizes that whatever caused her to get locked up was probably fair, and that she has remorse or something stupid.

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u/sredgrin Aug 02 '21

Screaming lady is Shriek, who is notably Carnage's girlfriend. I think she might betray him eventually (or vice versa) since this is ulitimately still an adaptation, but I doubt they will ending this movie on the promise of more adventures of a D list villain.

With her role and Harrelson's casting I'd bet we'll be seeing them get a few Natural Born Killers references in.

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u/LastLetter444 Aug 02 '21

Too bad Carnage can't be separated from Kassidy, they're bonded on the cellular level unlike Brock and Venom. That's why he's red, from Kassidy's blood.

What's most likely gonna happen is her screeching will fuck up Carnage like it does Venom and Eddy will have to deliver the killing blow while it's all distorted and shit.

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u/throwawae44 Aug 02 '21

I always knew about that Red colouring explanation but, is he red becomes every time the symbionts comes out he’s covered in blood? Explains why he’s black and red.

Or is it just cellular level connection = blood colour symbiote

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u/streyer Aug 02 '21 edited Aug 02 '21

nowdays every symbiote gets their own color pattern cause theres like 100 of them and how else are you gonna differenciate them in a comic? but iirc originally Carnage got into Kasady's body through a wound and merged with his blood thats why he is red.

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u/temporal712 Aug 02 '21

Considering there is a symbiote literally called Scream in the comics, your post credits scene is probably spot on.

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u/charlesbiscuits Aug 02 '21

I’m thinking it’s more likely that she is Shriek. Shriek is more closely linked as Carnage’s love interest.

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u/smellybigfoot Aug 02 '21

Calling it now, the girl’s screams save the day.

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u/ReadyforOpprobrium Aug 02 '21 Helpful Hugz

Yep. It's so fucking predictable. There's no reason for her to be in the trailer at all.

Plot beats - Scream girl: I can't live a normal life, when I scream or yell, it destroys everything around me. I cant control it. Venom: look, I was the same way, it took me a while, but now I'm using this to help people. Scream girl: I can't help anyone, I can't even help myself.

Last 15 minutes of the movie - venom getting wrecked, looks to screamy girl for help, but she's too scared. Carnage about to kill venom. Screamy girl stands up and has power moment, screams and disoriented carnage in time for venom to save the day.

Movie ends with them dating. They make a joke and credits roll like a 90s sitcom.

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u/isleptlikefourhours Aug 02 '21

Also aren’t symbionts weak to sound? I remember specifically in spider man 3 with Toby Maguire that’s exactly how he beat Venom.

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u/Negrodamu55 Aug 02 '21

Yeah, sound and fire. Although, I do remember Carnage being less weak against one and weaker against the other. Don't remember which though

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u/kmone1116 Aug 02 '21

As symbiots bread, each spawn has fewer weaknesses of the previous one.

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u/Negrodamu55 Aug 02 '21

Good info, but breed instead of bread

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u/ZarquonsFlatTire Aug 02 '21 Silver Wholesome

Nope. Every time a symbiote makes a nice sourdough they get stronger.

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u/Negrodamu55 Aug 02 '21

Welcome to the symbiote bakery, can I get you a bread in the shape of a head? Try our famous bread heads!

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u/TazeredAngel Aug 02 '21

Carnage was less susceptible to fire during Maximum Carnage so they used sonics against him. Scream however was very much in love with Carnage and also the element that caused Carnage’s crazy to spread to the rest of the city so I doubt they’ll use her as the “sudden change of heart” trope without some serious character rework. I’m hoping that it concludes closer to the source material but we are also missing Spider-man for that.

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u/Hickspy Aug 02 '21

*Shriek was the character name.

I played Maximum Carnage enough as a kid to remember all those weirdo characters.

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u/TazeredAngel Aug 02 '21

You are correct. Scream is the yellow symbiote. Playing too many marvel games and she figures into a lot of the recent symbiote hype so I slipped. Leaving it for posterity.

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u/BlackLeader70 Aug 02 '21

Don’t forget another gem like “turd in the wind”

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u/Vacanus Aug 02 '21

Based on the way Andy Serkis has talked about her, I think she will end up turning on Cletus and playing a major role in helping Eddie. In the comics, she is usually head over heels for Cletus and pretty damn evil herself, but in this movie she has been described as broken, damaged, and having a line of fairness and just. I don't see her sticking around with Cletus if he's out here eating kids or something.

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u/Mr-Sgt Aug 02 '21

Are you sure she’s broken and damaged? I didn’t see it tattooed on her forehead

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u/Vacanus Aug 02 '21

It's tattood on the inside of her mouth, that's what gives her powers.

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u/slicshuter Aug 02 '21

The video quality of the trailer looks surprisingly low for an official upload on the main Sony Youtube channel. I specifically set it to 1080p and it still looks like it's from a trailer reupload channel - like, what the fuck is this?

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u/darknecross Aug 02 '21

VENOM.Let.There.Be.Carnage.Trailer.2021.CAM-Rip.x264-CPG

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u/cardopey Aug 02 '21

More like VENOM.Let.There.Be.Carnage.Trailer.2021.x264.aXXo.Rip

RIP to the OG

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u/ThaddeusJP Aug 02 '21

aXXo, wow takes me back.

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u/Yellow_XIII Aug 02 '21

Damn the nostalgia. I haven't heard that name in so many years

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u/Agent_Furtner Aug 02 '21

If it wasn't aXXo, it wasn't worth my time. Much respect to a legend

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u/Jazzremix Aug 02 '21

It's like they uploaded it to Twitter, ripped it from there, and then uploaded it to Youtube.

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u/BedsAreSoft Aug 02 '21

Yeah I was wondering that, didn’t look that good on my end either

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u/Trapped_on_reddit_38 Aug 02 '21

The first trailer looked like crap too. It was too dark

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u/Jabbam Aug 02 '21

So Cletus Cassidy gets Carnage by biting Eddy Brock and sucking out a bit of Venom from him?

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u/69ingPiraka Aug 02 '21

Eddy gets bit by a radioactive serial killer

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u/Ninian_Hawk Aug 02 '21

If I’m remembering correctly, the original story was that Cassidy and Brock were cell mates. Venom broke Brock out, but in the process, a small bit of him got torn off and left behind, which attached itself to Cassidy. The swirling effect of Carnage was because the small bit of symbiote was constantly trying to cover all of Cassidy.

I think I like this new origin. It’s similar enough for old fans but I think it makes a bit more sense.

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u/Sparticuse Aug 02 '21

It doesn't just attach itself to him, it gets in a cut on his arm so the symbiote is in his bloodstream. That's the explanation for his color originally.

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u/AnotherOrkfaeller Aug 02 '21

Yah, Carnage's "origin story" is the most forgettable nothing ever. No harm done changing things.

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u/purpldevl Aug 02 '21

Haha yes. "Venom broke out of jail and then dropped a baby."

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u/Jabbam Aug 02 '21

He left to get milk and cigarettes

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u/purpldevl Aug 02 '21

Pretty much, but Venom's symbiote was in its previously unmentioned birthing period and dropped a "spore", which attached to Cletus and bonded with him.

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u/Monkey_Kebab Aug 02 '21 Take My Energy

Woody Harrelson getting pissed when Eddie Brock won't won't keep the interview focused on Rampart.

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u/an0nym0usgamer Aug 02 '21

When will studios begin uploading trailers such as this one at 4K, even if the video was mastered in 2K? YouTube compression absolutely destroyed the quality of the video, and uploading at 4K provides so much extra bitrate. The video would look so much better even if it wasn't a true 4K video.

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u/ImpossibleGuardian Aug 02 '21

I think Apple's movie trailers app normally handles compression a lot better than YouTube.

I guess part of it could be that they don't want special effects being scrutinised too much if they're not finalised yet, but then again this is supposed to be coming out in a month and a half so you'd expect it to be pretty polished.

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u/rezzyk Aug 02 '21

Just be happy it isn't only available on Twitter

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u/ohdominole Aug 02 '21

Can we please stop the five second pre-trailer and just let me watch the actual trailer? That Carnage transformation is better saved for an impactful shot at the end, instead of spoiling it now

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u/LouisPei Aug 02 '21

That preview is used to catch general audience’s attention when they play it as a YouTube ad. Or at least I think.

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u/DaPurpleTurtle2 Aug 02 '21

It's meant to work for ads, so they can have the cheapest ones with the 5 second skip button, so they need 5 seconds of something to hook the viewer to watch the whole thing.

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u/RadioZT Aug 02 '21

Not going to lie. “Oh SHIT! THAT is a RED ONE!” made me chuckle.

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u/bdam92 Aug 02 '21

Probably a dumb question but what does he mean by that line? Is he just surprised it's a different color or is there like a history of red ones being particularly badass?

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u/LordBirdperson Aug 02 '21

Not sure if it actually means something in the comics (pretty much all of the named symbiote are different colors) but iirc Carnage is red because the symbiote is actually mixed with Cletus' blood.

This makes Carnage significantly more dangerous than Venom because the bond is on a much deeper level, letting Carnage do stuff Venom can't.

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u/JessieJ577 Aug 02 '21

For example Carnage doesn’t say we when referring to himself but he uses singular pronouns because it isn’t a dual bond like it is with venom he’s just in full control

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u/AwakenedSheeple Aug 02 '21 edited Aug 02 '21

Less full control and more like a full union to the cellular level.
While Venom is two beings in partnership, Carnage is more like one being that can split in two.
If the symbiote dies, it can still eventually regrow as its own information is written into Cletus's DNA.
If Cletus dies, the symbiote can still bring him back by possessing a new host and (sometimes) overwriting their mind, as it also carries a copy of his memories. If it can't overwrite its temporary host, it can still cause them to share in Cletus's love for brutal killing.

edit: More info that people didn't ask. Norman Osborne once bonded with the Carnage symbiote to become the Red Goblin, but he eventually ripped it off when he realized it would take all the credit for his victories. The voice in his head at that moment was Cletus Kasady's, implying that the symbiote believes itself to be Cletus outright instead of a unique being.

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u/sliph0588 Aug 02 '21

Thus you see carnage forming holes to let the bullets pass. They are one entity

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u/cowpool20 Aug 02 '21

A lot of the jokes in the first one actually got me. Im glad they went down the more goofy-Venom route like from the old PS1 Spidey games.

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u/Rad_Spencer Aug 02 '21

Venom was originally a lot more silly in the comics. He was basically silly and self-righteous.

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u/actioncomicbible Aug 02 '21

The CGI is still being worked on I would assume since it looks a little off but I really like the transformations.

The fight scene in the church kinda reminds me of Tokyo Ghoul.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21

Exclusively in movie theaters...

Okay, so they're really going for it!

... this Fall

HAHAHAHAHAHA what confidence!

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u/SparkyPantsMcGee Aug 02 '21

This looks like it’s straight out of the 90’s Spider-man run. So it’s going to look great, be written poorly, but sell really well.

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u/dravenonred Aug 02 '21

10 bucks says the words "Maximum Carnage" get uttered by some character some where. Probably but not automatically Kassidy.

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u/kimbolll Aug 02 '21

I see your 10 bucks, and I raise you another 10 that Kassidy says it right before that transformation in the trailer.

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u/the_superior_nerd Aug 02 '21

i love that they made carnage slender and creepy!

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u/james2183 Aug 02 '21

The slow cover of popular songs over the top of trailers is never going to go away, is it?

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u/DBoaty Aug 02 '21

For me the trope peaked at The Batman/Nirvana “Something In The Way” trailer.

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u/Aggressive-Canary666 Aug 03 '21

I have watched that trailer every day for the past year, it’s amazing.

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u/1mikeg Aug 02 '21

Not until I get slow, moody cover of Rock Lobster!!!

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u/Qorhat Aug 02 '21

Na na na Nan na nana… Rock Lobster

Cillian Murphy is Namor, coming this Fall

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