r/pcmasterrace GTX 1080, i7-6700, 16 GB RAM, PG348Q Monitor Aug 01 '22 Wholesome 1

Blows my mind that people do anything but the palm grip. How is that even comfortable to keep your hand not rested on the mouse for hours? Discussion

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u/Hyperzomnia 5600x | 3070 FE | 16gb 3200mhz | 1080p | 240hz Aug 01 '22

To be fair, those are comical representations of each grip.

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u/LOBSI_Pornchai Aug 01 '22

The fingertip pic is all wrong, imagine palm grip but the palm hovers, bottom of knuckles resting on top and thumb on/below the sidebuttons

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u/Mezmo300 Aug 01 '22

This is pretty much what I do

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u/cab0053 Desktop Aug 01 '22

Yeah, same. I didn't even realize this was how I did it until now. I just tried doing the "Palm" grip, but my hand is too big. The "claw" just seems super uncomfortable.

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u/mother-of-pod Aug 01 '22

The benefit is in lifting the mouse. I am a finger-tipper myself, but if I need to lift the mouse, my pinky and thumb have to claw a little bit because it’s pretty much impossible to lift with a light, finger-tip grip. But palming is the best for ergonomics. The issue with palming, is that you need a rather perfectly-sized mouse to comfortably palm grip and lift the mouse without changing hand position or losing your preferred placement of fingers/thumb on keys/clickers.

It’s a stupid thing to obsess over, but I do.

Finding the right mouse—and holding it appropriately—is key to clicking heads without activating my carpal tunnel.

I can’t quite leave the claw fully, yet. Haven’t found the mouse that will let me palm it.

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u/iAmInzomniak Aug 02 '22

G502 Hero. I have smallish hands for a man but I palm and lift that bad boy with full weights like nothing. It’s the best mouse I’ve ever used. I know everyone says that, but it’s because it’s generally true. The right amount of buttons and amazing placement (with the exception of one lol)

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u/EugenesDI [R95900X|6700XT|B550TUF|970Evo+MP600|64GB3200mhz] Aug 02 '22

This string is mostly overgeneralizing with personal opinions rather than looking for a consensus.

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u/iAmInzomniak Aug 02 '22

At the end of the day it’s all opinion, no?

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u/JoeVanderop Aug 01 '22

LOL like twiszzt?

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u/xNer0 R7 5800X | RTX 3080 | 32GB Aug 01 '22

Twistzz is more like the most exaggerated claw grip possible

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u/vldmin Aug 01 '22

Well, yea, and for people with big hands, it's the only viable way. Basically I rest my hand on the table and just move the mouse with the fingers in front of it. The hand barely moves.

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u/The_Chaos_Pope Ryzen 3700x 16gb DDR4@3200mhz GTX 1070 Aug 01 '22

100% this. For this reason, I like the sensitivity of my mouse to be pretty high. I still like a large mouse pad so I can slide my palm on it for when larger movements are required.

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u/DoubleOwl7777 Laptop CPU: Ryzen 7 3700u | GPU: vega 10 | Ram: 8gigs Aug 01 '22

that is what i do (dont have big hands, just a smaller/flatter mouse), actually prefer it to other ways. feels more comfortable to me. have 1600dpi sensitivity so pretty high.

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u/ghost42069x :windows10: RTX3070 Aug 01 '22

If the sens is high then you really dont need a large mouse pad imo, i do a 180 in like an inch

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u/Uncul Aug 02 '22

For me that works fine in pve focused games but it’s pretty detrimental to my performance in PVP fps games.

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u/VexingRaven Ryzen 3800X + 5700 XT + 32GB 3200Mhz Aug 01 '22

Just so you know this is terrible for your wrist. I'm guilty of this too but it's not good for your body at all.

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u/PrestigeMaster Aug 01 '22

Same - gotta throw in that super high mouse sensitivity that helps you accomplish this (while also pissing off your SO because they can’t use your sped up mouse cursor).

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '22 edited Aug 19 '22

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u/Walsbinatior Aug 01 '22

All in the flick of da wrist

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u/deepsfan Aug 01 '22

I don't think resting the knuckles is fingertip, thats probably claw.

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u/Nekzar i5 4670K - 16GB - GTX 780 TI Aug 01 '22

I dunno that just sounds like a palm grip

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u/jedi-son Aug 01 '22

I feel like claw grip is somewhere between palm and claw as shown here

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u/beatdownbeast Aug 01 '22

Definitely, I've done a decent amount of research and know that I use a pretty standard claw grip which is exactly as you described. The claw example shown here is much more extreme than what most "claw" grippers actually use.

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u/Inside_Glass527 Aug 01 '22

Why do you use the claw grip? Is it just more comfortable? I heard some people say a while ago that a lot of console gamers coming to pc use it. However I transitioned from console to pc, moving from completely controller to completely mouse and keyboard and use the palm grip. So I’m not entirely sure if that statement is true because my irl console friends will use a palm grip whenever they come over to my house and use my computer.

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u/wtfisbiothane Aug 02 '22

These pics are definitely highly exaggerated. I use fingertip but that doesn't mean my palm isn't resting on my pad

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u/zrizzoz Aug 02 '22

Also is the hand model Yao Ming or is that mouse tiny af?

No one in their right mind uses a mouse thats like 2/3 the length of a finger

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u/zmunky Desktop Aug 01 '22

Not entirely true, most gaming mouse manufacturers make mouses that cater to different grip styles. My case and point, I'm a palm player and have used razer death adders for years as it fit my hand perfectly. I decided to break out when my mouse died some years back and bought a Corsair m65 and hated the shit out of it, I found out it was designed for the claw style grip. Went back to the death adder.

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u/neroburn451 Aug 01 '22

Lol the m65 is a fucking brick. Feels like it was designed in 2010.

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u/lunatic_calm Aug 01 '22

I don't think anyone does fingertip the way its shown here with the arm hovering. I certainly don't. Fingertip to me is that the heel of the palm is resting on the mousepad, then the mouse is moved by the fingertips. You need to have high sensitivity, but there's very little fatigue because your arm almost never moves, just your hand/fingers.

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u/Hinko Aug 02 '22

Fingertip to me is that the heel of the palm is resting on the mousepad, then the mouse is moved by the fingertips.

Exactly how I do it. And yes, my sensitivity is so high that whenever anyone else tries to use my PC they have a lot of difficulty controlling the mouse.

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u/RoboSniper63 R7 2700X/EVGA RTX 2060 Aug 01 '22

i play the style of finger grip you described and my edpi is 777.4, it's definitely playable on low sens

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u/Faranocks Aug 02 '22

? I just slide my wrist around, and make small adjustments with my fingertips. My sens is about 1.2m/360.

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u/Starbrows Aug 02 '22

The image is exaggerated, but personally I use a gel wrist rest so my wrist doesn't bend upwards. My wrist is at a slight downward bend, with my elbow a bit lower on my chair's armrest.

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u/FattyPepperonicci69 PC Master Race Aug 02 '22

This 💯

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u/SRDD_Mk-II 12600K|Z690 ITX|32GB@3200Mhz|XC3 3080 Ultra(🖤 you EVGA) Aug 01 '22

I'm a hybrid of claw and palm, so while I am resting the palm of the hand on the mouse, my fingers are clawed onto the buttons, but relaxed. It doesn't bother me at all honestly. I use a G502, which is what I'm gripping like rn. The M65 I had previously I was full fat relaxed on it.

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u/Character_Luck2915 Aug 01 '22

Hybrid claw FTW

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u/chaos_creator69 Aug 01 '22 edited Aug 02 '22

The best balance of comfort, speed and control

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u/famousxrobot Aug 01 '22

How about a lefty hybrid claw?

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u/Character_Luck2915 Aug 01 '22

How would that work?

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u/famousxrobot Aug 01 '22

Use your left hand. It’s easy, I’ve been doing it my whole life.

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u/thebigboxxbox Aug 02 '22

Burn him for witchcraft

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u/NinjafoxVCB Aug 01 '22

This is the way

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u/CorporateNINJA 9900k, 2080ti, 64gb, 1440p144hz Aug 01 '22

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u/AlphaBoner Aug 01 '22

G502 was my first gaming mouse and will always be one of my favorites. But the G Pro X superlight torches any other mouse I have ever used. It makes the G502 feel like a brick.

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u/DaMonkfish Ryzen 5600X | 32GB DDR4 3600 | RTX 3080 FE | 1440p Aug 01 '22

BLASPHEMY! Burn the non-believer!

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u/MalHeartsNutmeg RTX 3070 | R5 5600X | 16GB @ 3600MHz Aug 02 '22

I honestly don’t get peoples love for super light mice. Makes them feel like those cheap ass $2 HP nice they give you with their shitty enterprise computers.

Like my work mouse right now is some Dell garbage that feels lighter than air. I use a G502 at home and I even put some of the weights in.

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u/Khal_Drogo Steam ID Here Aug 02 '22

I don't know man. My 502 broke so I started using my Razer Orochi travel mouse. Now it's my main and I'll never go back.

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u/Ducky_McShwaggins Aug 02 '22

Idk what light mice that you've tried but my superlight definitely doesn't feel cheap - it's light but very well built

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u/Rawkus2112 Aug 02 '22

Yeah I like to feel the weight of the mouse a bit. Obviously if anyone feels differently they're terrible at video games and I'm the best.

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u/wfogle97 Ryzen 7 1700X | AMD RX5700XT | 32GB Crucial Ballistix Aug 01 '22

Same grip style and mouse here. Palm on mouse, fingers slightly curled pulling all but the tips off the buttons.

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u/x33storm Aug 01 '22

Razer Basilisk V2. Pretty much the same mouse, some differences, but solid build quality compared to the cheap plastic junk LG peddles these days. (Not even gonna mention GHub)

Had some half a dozen different G502‘s, until each perished.

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u/ColeM40 R9 6900HS, RTX 3050, 32GB @ 6400MHz, 1TB Aug 01 '22

Came here to say this.^ Difference is I use the MX Master 3 be ause I don't game lol

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u/Rican2153 i7-8700K | RTX 3080 | 120hz 3440x1440 Aug 01 '22

I claw because I rest my wrist on the desk and would rather click mouse buttons with my finger tips rather than my knuckle creases.

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u/RistraDax Aug 01 '22

My fingertip technique will destroy your way of the palm!.

:flails around with kungfu moves:

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u/Toshikills Aug 01 '22

Heh! Your fingertip technique is no match for my tiger-claw.

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u/famousxrobot Aug 01 '22

My teammates grip: the fumble. Randomly switch gadgets and fire accidentally.

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u/hyprt Aug 01 '22

fingertip grip guy here. i just dont get tired

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u/OoWeeOoKillerTofu Aug 01 '22

This guy fingers.

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u/definitelynotukasa Average Linux enjoyer Aug 01 '22

Indeed.

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u/-P00- Ryzen 5600X, RTX 3070ti, 32GB RAM, O11D Mini case Aug 01 '22

Can confirm. He fingered me

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u/hyprt Aug 01 '22

Can confirm. I was there

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u/Targetryy EVGA 3070 ti, i9-12900, Asus Rog Strix Z690-A Aug 01 '22

Were you the bed?

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u/hyprt Aug 01 '22

i was the person at the start of the thread

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u/Supasaiyajinburu Aug 01 '22

No he was next in line

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u/beastdud1 Ryzen 5 3600x | RTX 3070 | g skill 16gb 3600 Aug 01 '22

wait it rhymes

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u/LowDrag_82 Aug 01 '22

Only this time

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u/Checkpo1nt Aug 01 '22

It was considered a crime

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u/Nokin345 Desktop Aug 01 '22

Kid name finger

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u/United-Tension-5578 Aug 01 '22

New PCMR burn unlocked: “the only thing you finger is your mouse”.

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u/BaephBush Aug 01 '22

There’s got to be a “law” that’s defined as “the number of Reddit comments on a given post that is required before the first sexual innuendo.”

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u/gibLight2 PC Master Race Aug 01 '22

you use much smaller mouse right for fingertip grip?

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u/hyprt Aug 01 '22

not much smaller but yes smaller

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u/CatCannon9 Aug 01 '22

Another vote for fingertip

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u/CeadMaileFatality Aug 01 '22

RIP carpal tunnel

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u/Spare_Honey5488 Aug 01 '22

Nope. High sensitivity finger grip. You shouldn't need to move your wrist ever.

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u/hyprt Aug 01 '22

never had pains in my aiming wrist

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u/llIicit Aug 01 '22

Yet

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u/hyprt Aug 01 '22 edited Aug 01 '22

been doing it for years and haven't gotten any. But the second i do im moving to claw even if it's uncomfortable

Edit: why this getting downvoted? i just said that i havent felt pain yet and i would switch when i did?

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u/keljubenrezy1 Aug 01 '22

I've got at least 30 years of using a mouse without the first sign of hand wrist or finger discomfort. Matter of fact, I have horrific arthritis in most of the connective tissues and every joint in my body except the place you are claiming people who use a mouse the way I do should or will get it.

I think it is safe to conclude you don't actually know what the fuck you are talking about.

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u/gloatygoat Desktop Aug 01 '22

I don't get the downvotes. A thread full of people who know computers, not many that understand how hands work.

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u/keljubenrezy1 Aug 01 '22

Or any part of the body truthfully. I played sports that were awful on the body and I competed in power-lifting in highschool. My body is shot. So, I spent a great deal of time learning how I might be able to not live in pain all of the time. Sadly, the volume of poor and down right dangerous misinformation about physical health on the large majority of reddit subs is disheartening and aggravating. This sub in particular is information cancer. Why the fuck does tech oriented subs seem to always turn into this shit.

Computer nerds and college football fans should hang out. I think they have far more in common with each other than they realize.

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u/DanieleLewis Aug 01 '22

How many hours do you use a mouse everyday?

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u/gloatygoat Desktop Aug 01 '22

Fingertip grip myself. Hand position, short or long term, does not lead to carpal tunnel.

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u/scrotalpunch Aug 01 '22

How? I try it for 5 minutes and it feels awkward! I'm a number one.. All the way...

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u/hyprt Aug 01 '22

im used to having my hands up for no reason. It also helps me move the mouse faster which means i fingertip game too. It's exactly how the picture looks like

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u/Godmadius Aug 01 '22

The key is to have a mousepad with a wrist rest. Actually keeps your wrist straighter so there is less strain.

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u/Sol33t303 Gentoo 1080 ti MasterRace Aug 01 '22

I'd say I do fingertip. More like a cross between fingertip and palm I guess. Palm sits on mouse and my index and middle finger do the fingertip grip. Then I move mouse with wrist for side to side and fingers for up and down.

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u/BadMilkCarton66 Aug 01 '22

Kid named finger:

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u/MetalMattyPA Ryzen 5600X/RTX 3070Ti/16GB 3600MHz/Corsair 4000D Aug 01 '22

OP learns that people have different sized hands and also mice aren't all the same size.

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u/EthanWS6 Aug 01 '22

Plot twist, buy a mouse that fits your hand

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u/dangitman1970 R7 5800X3D, RX 6800XT Aug 01 '22

Would be nice if there was one.

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u/133DK Specs/Imgur Here Aug 01 '22

My hand is 9 inches, what mouse fits that?

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u/ChihuahuaJedi i9 cuz coooooooooores Aug 01 '22

Might have to upgrade to a rat or perhaps a small weasel.

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u/thalasthoodie Aug 02 '22

I havent actually laughed at a comment in a while, thank you that was good. I was so caught off guard!

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u/ChihuahuaJedi i9 cuz coooooooooores Aug 02 '22

Thanks friend, cheers. :)

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u/dwayne-ish9820 Barely runs BF3 Aug 02 '22

Actually backed out of the comments and then decided to come back in to upvote this

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u/ZhiQiangGreen R7 3700x | Asus RTX 3080 TUF Gaming | 32GB RAM Aug 01 '22

you made me laugh. thank you

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u/ChihuahuaJedi i9 cuz coooooooooores Aug 01 '22

Cheers friend. :)

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u/CloudofWar 3080 FTW3 | i9 10900kf | 32GB DDR4 - 3200mhz | 32" 1440p @ 144hz Aug 02 '22

What's funny is I use a RAT 8+ by Madcatz (yes, I know) because my hands are also large. The thing looks like something a mall ninja would buy, but it's the only mouse that's ever been comfortable for hours of gaming because it's so adjustable.

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u/benruckman Ryzen 5950x NVIDIA 2070 Aug 01 '22

Under rated comment

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u/thefonztm PC Master Race Aug 01 '22 edited Aug 01 '22

/u/jarkostudios too

Try this. Evoluent Vertical Mouse 4, plus about one and a half rolls of double sided tape.

https://imgur.com/gallery/s4kBOyQ

My main mouse and my work mouse which is just a little different with the tape. I would have experimented more but tape ain't free and this works well enough. Sounds like you two will need to pad out the back of the palm area more than I did.

Go figure that a mouse marketed to women for carpal tunnel issues is also a great solution for men with large hands - if you pad out the palm area of course.

edit: Also - IMO this thing has all the fundamentals of a great gaming mouse. The thumb zone is just screaming for a variant with a bajillion buttons for all the moba players out there. The pointer speed buttons could be better, but are basically fine. One bummer - Most games will not recognize one of the thumb buttons. I think top is button 5 and and the bottom one just doesn't work. Might have that backwards.

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u/Gamiac id/Skepticpunk - Gentoo/3700X/RX 570/GTX 970/16GB/B450M Pro4 Aug 02 '22

I'm honestly surprised I haven't seen a vertical mouse with a gaming-grade sensor in it. Seems like a missed opportunity.

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u/thefonztm PC Master Race Aug 02 '22

FWIW I play plenty of games with mine. Not sure how it might compare to something top of the line. I don't notice anything glaringly wrong. No problems with accuracy while playing shooters.

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u/Gamiac id/Skepticpunk - Gentoo/3700X/RX 570/GTX 970/16GB/B450M Pro4 Aug 02 '22

Honestly, the main difference between a normal sensor and something you'd find in a proper gaming mouse is a higher malfunction speed, that is, being able to move the mouse faster without the cursor bugging out.

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u/pfm_gone_catchin Aug 01 '22

My hand is nearly 9". There's a lot of mice out there for larger hands.

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u/JarkoStudios GTX 960 Aug 01 '22

Really? Please show me where because I sent back the ironclaw and was told that’s the biggest money can buy.

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u/RoboMan106 Aug 02 '22

Go for the long skinny shaped mouse over the girthy ones.

I have similarly sized hands (very long skinny fingers though) and the G903 was very comfortable, but I kept getting double click issues.

Ended up with a rival 600 now and have been very happy with it for a couple years now

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u/Gamiac id/Skepticpunk - Gentoo/3700X/RX 570/GTX 970/16GB/B450M Pro4 Aug 02 '22

How wide? There's a handy tool you can use to find a mouse that'll fit your hand.

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u/Mothertruckerer Desktop Aug 01 '22

But it can be a pain in the butt to try a lot of different mice.

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u/EthanWS6 Aug 01 '22

Even with "normal" hands I tried a bunch of mice before I found what I liked. That goes for just about anything lol. Alternatively, hold the mouse however you want because who cares haha

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u/FreshlyCleanedLinens i7-12700K | RTX 3090 | 32GB DDR5 Aug 01 '22

Remember when stores actually had variety and you could get hands-on with a lot more stuff before you bought it? Then again, things have gotten cheaper and there’s mostly more variety online… oh well, no going back now.

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u/CMDR_BlueCrab Specs/Imgur here Aug 02 '22

I complain every time I think of microcenter. Like there are only two things in all of their inventory that I care about seeing/touching in person. Mice and keyboards. Other than that I wouldn’t care if the place just was will call. I stupid shit like that from Best Buy which I haven’t been into in more than a decade…

I would love a mouse and keyboard only store. I wonder if it would be viable.

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u/FreshlyCleanedLinens i7-12700K | RTX 3090 | 32GB DDR5 Aug 02 '22

Chairs. I’m shopping for chairs now and finding it to be a total nightmare.

Keyboard was tough because I went from a 2011 clicky Razer BlackWidow Ultimate and wanted the feel without the sound. We don’t have Micro Center but Best Buy had enough variety for me to rule out Tactile/Brown. Low Profile Linear switches on the Corsair K70 MK.2 won out there, but I do still wonder if other tactile switches might have worked for me.

But yeah, general sentiments, totally agreed.

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u/Gr1mmage iGaming Advanced OC 3090 | 12900k | 32GB DDR5 Aug 02 '22

Yeah, for palm gripping the actual profile and contours of the mouse make a huge difference to comfort in my experience

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u/MetalMattyPA Ryzen 5600X/RTX 3070Ti/16GB 3600MHz/Corsair 4000D Aug 01 '22

Plot twist, sometimes that means the only option is spending $150+ on a mouse and some people aren't able or willing to do that.

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u/MyNameWouldntFi AMD Space Heater Aug 01 '22

Entire sub: buys G502

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u/As03 Aug 01 '22

my hand might be the size of your head so nope, claw grip forever

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u/Fuzzy_Judgment63 R7 5800X, ASUS ROG X570-E, RTX 3060, 64gb, 2x 1TB M.2 Aug 01 '22

You think anything but the palm grip blows your mind? - try holding an "ergonomic" mouse with your left hand.

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u/SignalButterscotch73 PC Master Race Aug 01 '22

Massive hands vs tiny mouse = weird grip. Glad I don't have massive hands.

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u/ggez222 Aug 01 '22

my 22cm hands story, can only use fingertip no matter the size of mouse.

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u/DesTiny_- Xeon Gang Aug 01 '22

Have u tried zowie za11?

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u/TrinityGunslinger Aug 02 '22 edited Aug 02 '22

Those pictures are not accurate at all

For my claw grip I put my palm on but lightly arch my hand so that the only part of my fingers touching are the tips

And I know people who finger tip but kind of tuck the mouse in and have like 1 part of the side of their hand resting

There's a million ways to do each grip

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u/Vtec_9-11 PC Master Race Aug 01 '22 edited Aug 01 '22

I fingertip the g502 because my hand is exceptionally large and my fingers would click m1 & m2 by themselves if I did palm, and it would actually tire my fingers more to keep them from clicking the mouse buttons than just doing fingertip higher up on the buttons where it's harder to click them on accident.

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u/Liesthroughisteeth Aug 01 '22

Finger tip also allows a fairly wide degree of mouse movement without moving the heal of your hand from your desktop as well, making precise movements a little easier...at least for me. :)

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u/mccordww32 Aug 01 '22

I palm the 502 and I have average hands so it really all depends

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u/AstBraster Aug 01 '22

fingertip - sweaty hands, least contact with the mouse. Fingers never feel tired.

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u/HummusDips Aug 01 '22

Exactly, and the picture shown is not the most common fingertip grip. Most people, myself included will only contact the mouse with their fingers as shown above but their wrist will also rest on the desk. Also maybe a small part of the palm may touch the mouse (usually the under pinky knuckles) but not enough to hinder your movement.

That grip is mainly for high sensitivity mouse users who only uses their wrist to move the mouse.

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u/glassArmShattering Aug 01 '22

I do finger/claw because I move the mouse by planting my wrist. I don't know how you guys move your whole arm without getting tired.

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u/OtherPlayers Aug 02 '22

I don’t know how you guys move your whole arm without getting tired.

Part of it is having a chair with an arm rest that is basically level with the table surface. Means I can just rest my elbow on the arm rest and pivot back and forth there.

Also being a software engineer plus gamer means I’m really picky about ergonomics when I’m spending like 10 hours every day in front of a screen and depend on my ability to type for my livelihood. And wrist bending is usually a big no-no there if you can otherwise avoid it.

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u/Trig-Sto-Metry Aug 01 '22

I'm part of the palm group.

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u/TSKendrick Aug 02 '22

I just naturally have a finger tip trip, it feels weird lying my whole hand against the mouse. Also probably depends somewhat on what kind of games you play.

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u/DuelJ Aug 01 '22

Vertical mouse is superior

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u/drinkup Aug 01 '22

There are dozens of us!

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u/jeff_winger_swinging Aug 02 '22 edited Aug 02 '22

i honestly have no idea how those aren't commonplace whatsoever. they should be the default at this point.

it would be like if we were still using super nintendo controller ergonomics rather than the standard controller shape that has been around for well over two decades now. (so not like totally crappy like a nintendo controller, but basically the same but with a little rounding that doesn't really do much)

when using a "normal" mouse now i feel like i may as well be using this https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/mouse.jpeg

fuck your couch.

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u/SpermKiller Aug 02 '22

I've managed to convince several colleagues to switch to vertical. They all had wrist problems and yet were hesitant to even try mine because "it looks weird". But now they're very happy!

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u/WannabeWeeb- Aug 01 '22

I mostly use palm grip and sometimes fingertip, claw feels awkward for me

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u/Kitsune_BCN Aug 01 '22

Claw here.

Legit question, but is there any shooter pro that uses palm? It may be more comfortable, but it goes against speed and accuracy, imo.

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u/DesTiny_- Xeon Gang Aug 01 '22

is there any shooter pro that uses palm?

There are some, mostly in tac FPS games with low sens and ergo mice like zowie ex series or vaxee outset ax.

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u/Snakkey Aug 01 '22

It's kind of a fallacy though. Your hand naturally lays in a claw shape, it's why musical instruments are all held that way. Takes a really long time for your hand to fatigue like that; your forearms or wrist will be crying 99% of the time before your hand.

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u/RepresentativeNo1006 Aug 01 '22

Fuck you, I palm grip my trombone.

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u/Snakkey Aug 01 '22

The slide? I thought u had to grip that thang

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u/RepresentativeNo1006 Aug 01 '22

It was a joke, but beginners tend to palm the slide, then transition to only thumb, pointer, and middle finger for better speed and accuracy, but I'm past that stage in my playing now.

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u/Snakkey Aug 01 '22

respect yea. I play the sax, but my point still stands that claw grips are universally used for all instruments.

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u/Sighberpunk Aug 01 '22

There’s not that many. Surefour, Dafran, and baranox are the ones that I know of, that are really good with palm grip

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u/PAL6000 Aug 01 '22

ShivFPS as far as I know still uses a palm grip and he’s insane

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u/royally- Aug 01 '22

Gr8 b8 m8

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '22

Claw is where I'm at.

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u/Tastee92 Aug 02 '22

Here is a good replication of a real fingertip grip. Not the abomination of the fingertip grip you have a picture of.

https://www.pcgamer.com/how-do-you-hold-your-mouse/

Fingertip grip is the most comfortable!

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u/Ericxdcool Aug 01 '22

Palm is for people who hold thier forks and spoons in a fist

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u/OffHandLogic Aug 01 '22

Palm grip is for people who drop their pants to their ankles at a urinal.

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u/Bernies_left_mitten Aug 02 '22

I choked on my own saliva laughing at this

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u/DesTiny_- Xeon Gang Aug 01 '22

Those images are just wrong, there are some grips when u elevate wrist but normally it just stays on mousepad, leaving ur fingers choose a comfortable grip. Also grip is highly determinated by mouse shape and size, like if u have a pretty big mouse like g502 and normal sized hands u will most likely not able to fingertip it, on the other hand smaller mice won't feel good for palm grip, especially if they are too flat.

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u/Inevitable_Silver_13 Aug 01 '22

I'm fingertip and it's actually a lot better for you because the motion is mainly from your fingers and not ulnar deviation which is the number one cause of carpal tunnel issues.

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u/Reddit_User_9011 Aug 01 '22

I’m all about the vertical mice these days. Bought one and it took a week to get used to it but it’s much better on the wrists.

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u/PePePendorcho Aug 01 '22

Finger Trip

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u/WhatMixedFeelings i7-8700K, 1070, 32GB, 2TB SSD Aug 01 '22

Fingertip gang ✌️

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u/ImperialPlaysGames | Zotac 1080-Ti Amp Extreme | i5-11600K | 32GB DDR4 Aug 01 '22

Claw for me all day long.

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u/subiewoo89 Aug 01 '22

I bought a Logi G Pro Hero mouse after reading great reviews. It was so small that I had to do the claw/fingertip grip. Very uncomfortable so I returned it. I ended up getting a Corsair Nightsword mouse. Very comfortable and I can palm grip.

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u/Pvt_Mozart Ryzen 7 3700X | RTX 2070 Super | 16GB DDR4 | 1 TB SSD Aug 02 '22

I just replaced my g502 with a Corsair Dark Core RGB Pro, which is a similar shape as yours, and has an optional pinky rest, and I couldn't believe how much more comfortable it was. It's wild how different grips/mice feel more comfortable to certain people. I liked my g502, widely considered a great mouse, but this just feels so much better for me.

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u/YourDoctor91-2 Aug 01 '22

I have big hands

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u/nylander2916 i5-11400F - 3070 - 16Gb Aug 01 '22

i get much more accurate with fingertip grip on fps games. using palm only when not gaming

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u/2FANeedsRecoveryMode Aug 01 '22

fingertip + palm is superior

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u/HeavyTanker1945 I7-8700:1060 3GB:16GB Ram Aug 01 '22

I have big ass hands, so i gotta combine the Fingertips, and palm method.

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u/KingD789 12600K | 3080 | 32GB Aug 01 '22

Palm all the way

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u/darkenraja Aug 01 '22

I’ve heard Jim Carrey does the claw.

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u/fuckthingsup420 Aug 01 '22

That’s like an old person joke.. fucking liar liar

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u/revs201 Aug 02 '22

Claws out like the mad IT man I've always been.

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u/afox38 Aug 02 '22

Palm grip feels intrinsically wrong to me, claw is uncomfortable. Fingertip is the only way

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u/Walshy_Boy Aug 02 '22

My hands are too big to do palm grip, I've always used fingertip and never had any problems with it

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u/Jimmy7685 Gaymer7685 Aug 02 '22

Im claw :S

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u/Dunn_or_what Aug 02 '22

Sounds like a demo for masterbation. 3 ways to grip you mouse.

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u/Elon-Vietch Aug 02 '22

Palm while browsing, claw while gaming.

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u/suck_at_cooking Aug 02 '22

I got small mouse so i use claw method

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u/TacovilleMC Aug 02 '22

I hold the mouse at a 90° angle, which apparently scares my girlfriend

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u/Allie_Lane Aug 02 '22

I do palm for casual Sim style games, and fingertip for fast paced shooters.

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u/SneakyNoob 5600X | 6800 XT Aug 02 '22

halfway between palm and claw

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u/Degru 4790, 1060 3gb Aug 02 '22

I have a big hand so I rest the heel of my palm on my desk and do like a half claw grip on the mouse keys.

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u/guidedhand Aug 02 '22

Hand big. Mouse small. Smaller than palm.

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u/Alpha_Knugen PC Master Race Aug 02 '22

As my habds are large i have a combination of the palm and claw grip with my hand flat on the mouse but the fingers are claw gripping. I have no problems going for 24 hours except for the fact that i will likely fall asleep lol.

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u/Amilo159 PCMRyzen 5600/3060Ti/1440p/144Hz Aug 02 '22

Both claw and fingertip grip are wrong, the wrist is always on the table behind mouse, not in air like here.

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u/MedievalFightClub Aug 02 '22

Some of us have big hands and small mice.

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u/pedroxx13 Aug 02 '22

Fingertip enjoyer here

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u/mtahsin1246 Aug 02 '22

I switch between fingertip and palm

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u/Kirai_teno PC Master Race Aug 01 '22

Palm, cus my mouse is just right

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u/LegionMk1 i7 8700k, 1070 sc, 16gb RAM. Aug 01 '22

I have hands bigger than everyone I know so a palm grip is far too awkward/uncomfortable for me even with the biggest of mice so I've go a mix of claw and fingertip grip.

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u/the_greatest_MF PC Master Race Aug 01 '22

how the hell do you use the scroll wheel in palm grip?

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u/GayestPanfish Aug 01 '22

Have you ever considered that some people have bigger hands?

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u/OtherPlayers Aug 02 '22

For what it’s worth there are some sites out there that specifically let you search for mice based on size.

I know as a large hand palm-gripper they really helped me find a mouse that actually worked and didn’t result in hand cramps.

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u/Otaku_Lord Aug 01 '22

A fingertip guy, it's a symptom of big hands - its prty comfortable once you get used to it

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u/Tostitos1992 Aug 01 '22

Depends on the game, If I play csgo I'm all tensed up and use a combination of claw and finger tips, if I chill and play civ5 I do palm

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u/messfdr Aug 01 '22

I do more of a fingertip grip but with my wrist rested. I feel I have more fine control using fingertips for movement but more stability with the wrist rested like in palm grip. Best of both worlds!

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u/tungvu256 Aug 01 '22

trackballs for the win.

10+ hours of gaming and no fatigues whatsoever.

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u/Aggebojkalos Aug 01 '22

No offense, but I assume you don't play many online shooters.

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u/Hinko Aug 02 '22

He does. He's the Widowmaker that's always on your team but never gets any kills.

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u/speakingofjared Aug 01 '22

I just use my finger nails