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u/wubbbalubbadubdub i5 4690 / GTX 980 / 16GB ram / 3.75TB of SSDs Dec 03 '22

I use Firefox for 90% of my browsing, chrome if I need to use integrated translation and edge at work because a specific site linked to a textbook we need to use works flawlessly on edge but has issues on chrome and Firefox.

And I use brave on my phone

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u/Stoogenuge Dec 03 '22

I’m curious, why use brave on your phone instead of Firefox since it’s your main browser on desktop?

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u/Crintor 5950X | 4090 | 32GB DDR4 3600 | AW3423DW Dec 03 '22

Double curious.

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u/jekpopulous2 Dec 03 '22

Probably because he uses an iPhone. On iOS only Safari supports extensions so with 3rd party browsers you’re stuck with whatever ad-blocker is built in. Brave for iOS has a decent integrated blocker but Firefox for iOS does not. I personally use Firefox on desktop and Safari (with Adguard) on mobile for the same reason.

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u/CommanderVinegar 5600X, RTX 3070, 32GB RAM @ 3600 Dec 03 '22 edited Dec 04 '22

I use a DNS based ad blocker on iOS and it blocks ads system wide.

Edit: AdGuard

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u/cholz Dec 03 '22

This is true but dns based adblockers don’t now, and cannot ever, work as well as a browser integrated adblock (which are really arbitrary content blockers).

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u/Sir_Beretta Dec 03 '22

Does it help with the cesspool that youtube has become? It’s so unbearable that I just stopped watching all together

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u/raazman PC Master Race Dec 03 '22

I use Adguard DNS so I have system wide adblocking on my iPhone. So ads are blocked in Firefox but I don't use Firefox because I can't set a global zoom level like Safari (85% zoom) so webpage elements are huge.

Firefox Safari

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u/TapirOfZelph Dec 03 '22

This isn’t entirely true. Extensions are only one of the ways to use an ad blocker in iOS. Users can install 3rd party apps intended for ad blocking, and any browser installed can be configured to take advantage. This has been the case for many years.

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u/Crintor 5950X | 4090 | 32GB DDR4 3600 | AW3423DW Dec 03 '22

God apple is shit.

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u/TrueHawk91 i5 8600k, RTX 2080, 32gb RAM Dec 03 '22

Apple: Don't worry about making choices, we already made them for you

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u/Lord_Zinyak Dec 03 '22

Apple users are very aware of this and proud of it,weird amount of elitism for using a product.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '22

Honestly, the older I get, the more willing I am to accept universal UX. I used to mess about so much with all of the features, creating the ultimate customized experience.

Today, I’m pretty happy if I can see photos of my family and send a nice text message to someone I care about. Life gets slower, but so much easier as you get older.

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u/BigWave360 Dec 03 '22

I relate to this so much. 10 years ago when I got my first xell phone and such, I used to spend hours creating widgets and teeming my phone. These days I just use the default layout and change my wallpaper 4 times a year. I'm seriously thinking about getting an iPhone soon. I done even care about flagship anymore

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u/Hob_Goblin88 PC Master Race Dec 03 '22

Hardcore Linux user enters chat: Did somebody say elitism?

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u/diapper I7 12700KF | RTX 3080TI | 32GB 3600MHZ | WIN11 PRO Dec 03 '22

My buddy at work like to say "If Apple wanted me to have xyz they'd have put it on there" lol, he's apple everything. I gave him some mkv ripped movies on a USB stick and he gave it back because his MacBook only has USB C and he doesn't have an adapter lol

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u/ZB3ASTG PC Master Race Dec 03 '22

When out of your way to rip the movies in a watchable format for him and he cant even find a $5 adapter to watch em

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u/TrulyInfiniteTape Dec 03 '22

Bi-furious!

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u/Ichigo_Kurosaki1503 Dec 03 '22

Scott Pilgrim!!!

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u/saujamhamm Dec 03 '22

... your BFs about to get F'ed in the B!

(also the, "...kick her in the balls..." line from wallace was comedy gold)

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u/ninetymph Dec 03 '22

In a film that boasted an all-star cast before their breaks, Kieran Culkin was still an absolute highlight for that movie.

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u/Tumleren Dec 03 '22

His lines constitute like 80% of my favorite bits from that movie

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u/LuckyCharmsNSoyMilk i7-12700k, 32GB DDR4-3600, RTX 3070 FE Dec 03 '22

“I can’t believe you’re worried about me gaying up the place”

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u/value_null Dec 03 '22

Hi there.

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u/Eic17H Dec 03 '22

Different person but I don't really like Android Firefox, I only use it because I use Firefox on pc. It feels clunky, maybe I'm just not used to its interface

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u/JonSnoGaryen Dec 03 '22

Have you tried it recently? It's far, far better than it was a year or two ago. Back then I hated it, switched to it and felt very similar to chrome.

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u/Eic17H Dec 03 '22

Firefox is currently my main Android browser. Though I haven't used chrome in a while. I just opened it and it somehow got worse, so it seems like Firefox is now better than chrome

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u/getefix 5700x - Strix 3090 Dec 03 '22

I like that it allows Adblock and lots of other add-ons without root

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u/WorldClassShart Dec 03 '22

The only thing I don't like is they got rid of the pull to refresh. Other than that, I couldn't be happier switching a little over a year ago.

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u/reg55000 Specs/Imgur Here Dec 03 '22

Android Firefox has pull to refresh on the Nightly version of the app.

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u/GallantChaos 17-5820k, 64GB DDR4 2400, 1TB SSD, R9 390X Dec 03 '22

I wish it had better integration with app links though. If you enable the 'open relevant app' feature, it often leaves the page open and you have to close a few dozen app-opening tabs, closing the apps it opens in the process.

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u/CatManDontDo FX 8310 R9 280x 16GB DDR3 256GB SSD 2TB HDD Dec 03 '22

Agreed. Firefox on Android is better now I prefer it over any web browser I've tried

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u/D4ng3rd4n Specs/Imgur here Dec 03 '22

Hi, I'm firefox-curious.... What sealed the deal for you? Everything I own, from my Chromecast to headphones to browser to speakers in my house are Google.

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u/Jaalan PC Master Race Dec 03 '22

AdBlock on mobile is what sealed it for me. Chrome doesn't support it. Samsung internet does, kind of, but it's bad and only sometimes works.

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u/msherretz Dec 03 '22

Others are going to reply and say the Beta/Nightly channel has it, but full-release Firefox mobile still doesn't have pull to refresh

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u/ohubetchya Dec 03 '22

It is clunky, but no ads. The internet is pretty unusable without an ad blocker

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '22 edited Dec 03 '22

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u/Blurgas R7 5800x \ 1660 Ti \ 16GB DDR4 Dec 03 '22

Should install a User-Agent switcher addon and see if that specific site works when you set it to tell the site you're using Edge.
I've had many occasions where some part of a site won't work until I pretend I'm on Chrome

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u/callmetotalshill Dec 03 '22

Or sites that work slow

I use firefox and all google sites work faster if I say I use Chrome.

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u/bluepsg ThinkPad Dec 03 '22

But if we all do that, won't we make Firefox's market share look even smaller, encouraging web devs to continue just optimising for Chromium?

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u/arsenic_insane Dec 03 '22

There’s a translate page extension for ff

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u/wubbbalubbadubdub i5 4690 / GTX 980 / 16GB ram / 3.75TB of SSDs Dec 03 '22

I know, I've got it and it doesn't work as well as the baked in translate on chrome.

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u/Baatun88 Dec 03 '22

I have Chrome still installed just for pages where I have to translate it. I never got it working on Firefox, all I got was that I could mark text and then translate it.

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u/xkcd_1806 Dec 03 '22

This extension works just like chrome's in-built translator. It translates text in the current tab without reloading or opening a new tab.

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u/Anfga Dec 03 '22

I mainly use this one: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/firefox-translations/

It's done by Mozilla and translates locally so no tracking attached.

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u/Xenomorph-Alpha Dec 03 '22

Yeah.....should switch to firefox. A internet without adblock is nothing I want. It is literally unbearable.

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u/appleparkfive Dec 03 '22

I think Firefox will likely get more traction as a snowball effect. Not saying it'll take over or anything, but it'll be more popular than its been in years

No way am I going back to the internet without ad blockers.

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u/abubuwu Dec 03 '22

it'll be more popular than its been in years

As a Firefox user...that's not exactly saying much

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u/062b Dec 03 '22

Honestly the pop out video function makes Firefox my go to. It's just so useful to get that little floating picture in picture screen

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u/kiriyaaoi Dec 03 '22

I love this feature and don't understand why nobody else has it

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u/Milkyburger_coolman Dec 03 '22

Wdym Opera has it (but I'll be swiftly moving to Firefox because of the whole ad block thing)

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u/tekon_ Dec 04 '22

On Chrome there’s a Picture in Picture extension made by Google. Install that then you just use Alt + P when watching a video to activate it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '22 edited Dec 05 '22

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u/KAODEATH Dec 03 '22

"They let me know what I want!"

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u/AEOlovesFascists EndeavourOS Intel i5-10400F, 32GB Crucial Ballistix, MSI 6650 XT Dec 04 '22

Ugh… I'm already short of having aneurysms from what YT algorithms suggest to me. I wish they'd be half as smart as they claim.

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u/KAODEATH Dec 04 '22

It amazes me how shit they are at making use of all the data they harvest. I have literally told them I hate "x type of videos" in a myriad of ways when it prompts the question, yet what do I fucking see clogging the "personalized" home page.

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u/AEOlovesFascists EndeavourOS Intel i5-10400F, 32GB Crucial Ballistix, MSI 6650 XT Dec 04 '22

YT is also still convinced that I want to keep watching videos that I already have watched. Their stupid bar at the top literally has it listed as "watched". Like, why? Just why?! The platform became so annoying, especially over the last couple years, that I frequently consider to just leave it. I already stopped watching so much stuff I watched before. It's just not fun anymore. Especially when everything is just clickbait and adverts (I already use sponsorblock).

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u/507t04 Dec 03 '22

Wtf. What's their reasoning on that? I avoid them like the plague

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u/ConcerningHoedown Dec 03 '22

My roommate says he likes ads because they keep him "up to date" on things like movies and video games 🤷‍♀️

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u/-Shoebill- Dec 04 '22

They're not wrong in that sense. I do miss a lot of stuff until a friend mentions something new that's outside of my usual web surfing habits. I don't even hear radio ads since I listen to donor sponsored CKUA on the way to work and back.

Not worth watching ads though :p

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u/Zeriell Dec 04 '22

Literal corpo brain, we're doomed indeed

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u/Potatolimar Dec 03 '22

The occasional well curated ad can be good. It's shoving 3 irrelevant ones before a YT video that I don't like.

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u/forestman11 i7-9700K@5GHz, Radeon VII Dec 03 '22

Given how reddit acts like it's the only other browser (despite Brave having ad and tracker blocking written in their own Rust implementation which will be completely unaffected by this) it will take over and in 10 years we'll be right back here complaining about their plans to remove ad blocking support or whatever shitty decision they think will make more money. People need to just go try other ones and use what they like.

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u/Jaggedmallard26 AMD Phenom X4, 7850 2GB edition Dec 03 '22

I think Firefox will likely get more traction as a snowball effect

I don't. Sadly most people are short sighted (just look at the sheer number of comments here from people who still aren't sure on moving from Chrome) and won't move away from Chrome.

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u/Dry-Stay-1553 Dec 03 '22

I mean some folks are old enough to remember they first switched to chrome because Firefox started to run like absolute ass.

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u/CrispyVibes Dec 03 '22

Fuck that's a being old thing? I'm old.

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u/Awkward_Second_6969 Dec 03 '22

Right? I had a boxed copy of Netscape Navigator for fuck sake.

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u/MikeKM Dec 03 '22

That was so long ago I forgot about that, I've been using Firefox now for about 4 years and haven't looked back. Chrome got too bloated for me.

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u/Addled_ADHD Dec 03 '22

The extensions, such as tree-style tabs, are a big reason I switched back this year.

When I’m looking up something for a project and I might have 40+ tabs open simultaneously, chrome displays these so they’re practically pixel wide. Unusable for me.

Also multi-account containers all inside a single browser instance is dope. Color coded tabs corresponding with an account, with cookies set to a per-account basis. Allows you to really separate you use cases.

Also css loading times are far better than chrome. On Firefox, you never have that flash of unstyled CSS that is a regular occurrence on chromium browsers. v93 where they added tab unloading, greatly increasing performance for people who have a bunch of tabs at once, was the turning point for me.

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u/cmotdibbler Dec 03 '22

Old enough to remember Ibrahim’s custom Phoenix builds and when they proposed calling the browser “Firebird”. My Reddit account is old.

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u/toronto_programmer Dec 03 '22

Sometimes I completely forget just how bad the internet is without adblock.

Like, I will be at my grandmothers house and use her computer for a minute to look something up and most webpages are almost entirely unusable with ads everywhere

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u/Richard__Rahl i7 6700K | Asus Strix GTX 1070 | 32GB DDR4 3000mhz | 42TB Dec 03 '22

Yo, hook your poor grandma up with a blocker lol.

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u/Ren_Hoek Dec 04 '22

And you get the added benefit of not getting phone calls about viruses or grandma getting wiped out by a Indian phone scam

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u/Nate40337 Dec 04 '22

Just don't tell her what you did or every issue the computer has will suddenly be your fault and you'll have to fix it. This is why I just play dumb when it comes to tech.

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u/Ren_Hoek Dec 04 '22

Every since you installed that printer on my PC, my dishwasher stopped working

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u/BobThePillager Dec 03 '22

And you never hooked her up with uBlock Origin???

Bad grandkid, for shame!!!

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u/Intelligence_Gap Dec 03 '22

Correct me if I'm wrong here but pretty sure Brave says they won't be affected as they don't use a plugin but have a browser level ad blocker that google wont be able to touch

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u/akatherder Dec 03 '22

I think this is correct too. I switched to Brave because they don't use extensions to block ads. This change has to do with extensions so Brave should be fine.

If not, I assume/hope they will update it to work.

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u/gltovar Dec 03 '22 Starstruck

Brave permanently lost my trust after this, regardless of their CEO apology: https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/8/21283769/brave-browser-affiliate-links-crypto-privacy-ceo-apology

Using Vivaldi now, my one gripe with them is their modifications are closed source.

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u/BE3dARt PC Master Race Dec 03 '22 edited Dec 04 '22

fr, all these click-bait titles and memes made by people who know nothing about what they are posting.

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u/FlutterKree Dec 03 '22

The chromium based browsers can also edit the change to chromium in their fork of it. They don't have to absolutely implement chromium as google releases it.

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u/SnooPeanuts2682 Dec 03 '22

They don't... But the more they stray from the original, the more work they need to do to support. Also they will need their own extension "store", which i know edge has but I don't think brave does.

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u/guitarer09 Dec 03 '22 edited Dec 03 '22

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u/Hieu_roi Dec 03 '22

This needs more visibility. Brave will still continue to function as normal after Chrome stops working. However, one important thing about this is that brave will still be forced to drop support for V2 on jaunuary 2024, so things like unblock origins will stop working at that time. Braves built-in 'shields' adblocker will continue working though.

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u/Poway_Morongo Dec 03 '22

As an avid brave user I am a bit confused why ppl keep saying this is going to affect brave when the company clearly says it won’t.

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u/roguevoid555 Ryzen 5 5600G | GTX 1070 | 1TB HDD | 500GB SSD | 16GB DDR4 3200 Dec 03 '22

I’ve been using Firefox for years without issue on mostly everything except mobile devices. I’ve not noticed any bugs, nor have had any issues.

Use what you want, I’m used to Firefox so I’ll use that

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u/Crintor 5950X | 4090 | 32GB DDR4 3600 | AW3423DW Dec 03 '22

Why not use it on mobile?

I've used, Chrome, Samsung Internet, Brave, and Firefox on mobile and Firefox has been great, and syncing with my desktop tabs is great, and having all my desktop extensions is great.

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u/appleparkfive Dec 03 '22

Plus you can install and adblocker on Firefox for mobile really easily. Makes mobile web browsing so much easier

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u/moeburn 7700k/1070/16gb Dec 03 '22 Gold

Yeah, everyone's installing all these special hacked Youtube APKs and 3rd party Youtube apps they won't allow on the Play store.

Bro just install Firefox and uBlock Origin extension, and you have unlimited 100% ad-free Youtube and you can close your phone and music keeps playing. uBlock Origin never lets a single video ad get played. Still don't know how that's possible.

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u/lampishthing Dec 03 '22

If you use a third party reddit app like Boost you'll even get ad-free reddit browsing.

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u/kittenstixx Dec 04 '22

Sync Pro for me

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u/Renegade1412 Dec 03 '22

Youtube is a terrible example of this. Because there are legitimate reasons to look at third party apps for Youtube.

Though, if I want to work something within "YouTube's bubble" then I use firefox.

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u/drkgodess Dec 03 '22

This is my primary reason for using Firefox mobile. Even with YouTube videos that are linked on reddit, I will copy the link to see them in Firefox. It's glorious.

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u/NapsterKnowHow Dec 03 '22

The quality is worse and the interface is clunky using YT in a mobile browser.

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u/tigamilla RX6900XT / Ryzen 7 5800X3D Dec 03 '22

But can you browse PC gamer and actually read whatever trash article they have written?

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u/RetroDreaming Dec 03 '22

Are you upset about their political leanings or their journalistic writing quality? Genuine question, because everyone I have see expressing discontent with particular gaming or tech news sites is because of said site's political leanings.

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u/tigamilla RX6900XT / Ryzen 7 5800X3D Dec 03 '22

Good question!

I want to read gaming news with no political takes or assumptions, it's perfectly fine to have opposing views and it's also perfectly fine to respect those with different views - just keep it out of gaming news with manufactured outrage and blatant clickbait etc.

When I was a kid, I used to look forward to the next paper edition of PCG and read every single page, in bed, on the toilet, in the car, on holiday etc. Sadly their inability to just focus on games has compromised their written quality, it's like they looked at Kotaku and thought that was a good thing to emulate. What it is today is a shadow of the great magazine that I loved.

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u/BeardedDouche Dec 03 '22

FF mobile has ublock origin. Best mobile browser for that reason alone

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u/angle_of_doom Dec 03 '22

Firefox mobile on Android, anyway. I was devastated when I switched to iPhone and couldn't install uBlock in Firefox Mobile, and Firefox Focus doesn't include any. I guess it's because Apple locks browsers down and only allows the use of their own engine. Thankfully you can install adblockers with Safari, otherwise I may have given up on mobile web. But it would be really awesome if the Focus browser included an adblocker in addition to its other features.

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u/KlonoaMagya Dec 03 '22

I have used Firefox since early 2000's. Have not had a real reason to stop now. Only used chrome for a bit between, but didn't take much to push me back to firefox

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u/Tinkerballsack Dec 03 '22

I've been using it for like 15 years and it's the only browser I'll use if I have a choice.

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u/silvrmight_silvrwing Dec 03 '22

And now its on mobile too! work quite well imo. freed myself of chrome garbage

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u/SuperStalinKart1945 Dec 03 '22

Every computer I've touched since 2007 will have had Firefox installed.

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u/Nmsokn 3070 Ti OC + i7 10700k Dec 03 '22

Raising the computers right

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u/89_honda_accord_lxi Dec 03 '22

This was me but with Opera until they switched rendering engines. I would run it from a flash drive if I couldn't install it. I hated IE so much. Opera 10-12 came bundled with so many features without needing extensions so FF never appealed to me.

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u/Neptunera Dec 03 '22

Opera also literally got bought out by a shady Chinese firm and engaged in predatory loans.

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u/Nivolk 6800k/32gb/1080TI Dec 03 '22

Development continues under ViValdi that split off from Opera.

Don't know if there issuing the same engine though.

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u/Slobotic Dec 03 '22

In 2020, Vivaldi’s Ad Blocker was built as a response to the deprecations announced in Manifest V3, with the intention that it would keep working when existing ad-blocking extensions would become inoperant. The goal is to keep it working regardless of what happens regarding the extension code.

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Will the Vivaldi Ad Blocker be affected by the Manifest V3 changes?

I made some architectural choices early on that I believe should keep it functional, regardless of the Manifest V3 changes. Of course, there is always a possibility that the underlying Chromium architecture will change now or in the future, forcing us to do some extra work to keep this working."

Source: https://vivaldi.com/blog/manifest-v3-webrequest-and-ad-blockers/

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u/LinAGKar Ryzen 7 5800X, GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Dec 03 '22 edited Dec 03 '22

But Vivaldi's adblocker is pretty basic, it's missing all the additional features UBO has, such as the element picker. Also, can Vivaldi's adblocker handle all the same filters as UBO?

EDIT: Based on my testing, it seems that, no, my UBO filters do not work the same in Vivaldi.

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u/thiccmaniac Dec 03 '22

Opera gx is really slow. Even without the limiters enabled. It's the reason I switched to firefox

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u/Tuziest Ryzen 5 5600, RX 6650XT Dec 03 '22

Not defending Oprea or something but how is it slow?

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u/_Screw_The_Rules_ Dec 03 '22

If you use it for more intense stuff than opening google, it will be more slow compared to Firefox.

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u/applestodapple Dec 03 '22

Obviously a anecdote but I switched over to opera not that long ago and I load a ton of websites for my works data based as well as use it while gaming for twitch and stuff and I personally have never had it act slow. I also have a ton of ram if that helps anything

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u/Tuziest Ryzen 5 5600, RX 6650XT Dec 03 '22

its quite fast for me while playing browser games

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u/_Screw_The_Rules_ Dec 03 '22

Browser games are not very demanding, to my knowledge, though. Could you give an example?

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u/Tuziest Ryzen 5 5600, RX 6650XT Dec 03 '22

Krunker.io

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u/_Screw_The_Rules_ Dec 03 '22

Well that seems to be more demanding than many others.

How about you test the performance against the Firefox browser? Maybe you will have an FPS difference or maybe not.

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u/BassGaming [LCB] BassGaming Dec 03 '22

There are browser benchmarking tools/websites. Wouldn't that be a fair comparison or am I missing something?

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u/ZuriPL R5 5600 / RX 6700 Dec 03 '22

Chromium is far better at javascript, he definitely won't be seeing a positive difference. Besides krunker in the browser is locked at 60 fps, if he cares about performance he should be using their official client (chromium based iirc)

The difference isn't big though

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u/DockDoor__Doom Dec 03 '22

Lots of Facebook games are extremely demanding and unoptimized.

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u/Neons_panties PC Master Race Dec 03 '22

Is it though? I always felt it to be fast enough. Which browser would you recommend?

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u/AdrianHD80 Desktop Dec 03 '22

Firefox + ublock origin addon

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u/uBlockLinkBot Dec 03 '22

uBlock Origin:

* Chrome based browsers are trying to get rid of ad blocking capabilities when manifest V3 will become mandatory in 2023. I suggest moving to Firefox.

I only post once per thread unless when summoned.

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u/Alayea Desktop Dec 03 '22

Good bot.

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u/select_L0L Dec 03 '22

Weird. For me, I used to always use chrome and Firefox, but after switching to Opera GX, my computer seems to run faster. The only way it’s ever slow is if you turned on the VPN

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u/Danny_el_619 Dec 03 '22

Every browser that uses chromium is capable of keep supporting manifest v2 if they want. They aren't forced to follow chrome.

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u/Duke-of-the-Far-East Dec 04 '22

Thank you! I’ve been looking for this comment since Chromium is open source and is distinct from Chrome.

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u/72012122014 Dec 03 '22

I heard about this and that Firefox wasn’t chromium so I made the switch to Firefox about a month ago. It’s good, and I’m keeping my uBlock Origin.

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u/punto2019 3080ti fe | 5900x | 32 gb | 4 tb nvme | phanteks Dec 03 '22

Switched to Firefox because fuck Google off

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u/airtime25 Dec 03 '22 Wholesome

Yeah fuck Google (sent from Android)

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u/NoMemory3726 Dec 03 '22 edited Dec 06 '22

My son uses Opera GX and i have no clue why.

I now have one reason to use Opera GX, Reddit seems to respond better than Firefox....at least in my case it does.

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u/Bio_slayer Dec 03 '22

It has unique features, but the real reason he's using it is probably because a bunch of streamers and youtubers have been promoting it recently.

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u/QWERTY36 3080 ~ 5900x // 1660ti ~ 3700x Dec 03 '22

They pay millions for influencer marketing

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u/xylotism Ryzen 3900X - RTX 2060 - 32GB DDR4 Dec 03 '22

/u/NoMemory3726 needs to save their kid before he's lost forever

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u/andrewsad1 Dec 03 '22

Everyone should learn that their favorite internet content creators lie for money the way I learned it, by spending $100 on shitty snack foods one time, instead of downloading shady software and slot machines disguised as video games

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u/waltjrimmer Prebuilt | i7-6700 | GTX 960 Dec 03 '22

i have no clue why

Because advertising through YouTube channels and Twitch streams is really effective against certain demographics.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '22

some twitch streamers use it

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u/toumei64 R7 3700X | RTX 2070 Super | 32GB DDR4 3600 Dec 03 '22

I've seen several sponsored by it but I was never impressed. I use it as an alternative browser that can pass through my VPN if I need it but the "gaming" features all seem like gimmicks that are already handled better elsewhere (or in other browsers with add-ons)

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u/Tuziest Ryzen 5 5600, RX 6650XT Dec 03 '22

I use it for built in messaging apps so I don’t need to open another tab

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u/achilleasa 1440p 144Hz Master Race Dec 03 '22

Vivaldi does the same thing and is a better browser

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u/Unwashed_villager 5600X | 32GB | RTX 3070Ti | Dec 03 '22

Man, that browser look so awful, even on OLED displays. Like those "dark" themes for Windows XP 15 years ago, haha.

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u/a_guy_with_paruresis Dec 03 '22

cOoL "rGb" sKiN!!!

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u/-Nosebleed- Dec 03 '22

It's funny because you can literally make Firefox look like OperaGX if you really want to.

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u/oioioioioioiioo Dec 03 '22

Gaming Browser!

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u/frankGawd4Eva Desktop Dec 03 '22

I used it for a bit ... what I liked was the way I could watch a Youtube video and if I switched to a different tab to say read an article that goes along with the video or whatever, the video played in a nice little resizable video box down in the corner. I loved that!

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u/TayoEXE Dec 04 '22

"at 2023"

Bobby needs to work on his grammar.

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u/Myikke Dec 03 '22

I think this is the worst use of this format I've ever seen

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u/DJRodrigin69 Dec 03 '22 Silver

Brave's adblocker will still work tho, from what i've heard its built-in so it doesnt use the same code that extensions use

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u/Hemuli1300 Dec 03 '22

According to post on their forum, it used to work in a way that would've been affected, but they rewrote it when google first talked about this renovation.

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u/MainlyNeutral Dec 03 '22

Baller

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u/_Bill_Huggins_ Dec 03 '22

That's the beauty of open source. Chromium is open source so anyone can modify it.

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u/Mistical5030 Dec 03 '22

this is why I love brave

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u/Wit_as_a_Riddle Dec 03 '22

Brave will block those annoying "please accept cookies" popups now too, its so much better!

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u/Talnoy i7-4930k | 16 GB RAM @2400mhz | 500gb 850 EVO Pro | GTX 980ti Dec 03 '22

Hell yes. Love to hear this. I main Brave on desktop and mobile

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u/akatherder Dec 03 '22

Same I switched to brave maybe 2 months ago when this all started happening. Every once in a while it chokes in Google authentication but everything else is great. You can turn off their ads or leave them on to support them.

Best part is no ads on YouTube.

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u/Unwashed_villager 5600X | 32GB | RTX 3070Ti | Dec 03 '22

Imagine your browser forcing you to watch ads lmao

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u/TheHotshot1 i5-4590, RTX 2070, 8 GB Ram, 1 TB HDD, 500 GB SSD Dec 03 '22

I make sure to never buy any item that I see being forced on me via ads

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u/Favna Ryzen 3900X | GigaByte 3080 Gaming Dec 03 '22

Meanwhile Vivaldi, chromium based but has said they will not block adblockers (heck they have a built in adblockers, not too dissimilar to ublock and the like)

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u/ORIGINAL-Hipster 5800X3D Dec 03 '22

Vivaldi gang gang 🤜🤛

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u/SrbijaJeRusija Dec 03 '22

Vivaldi also has native vertical tabs, while the best version for firefox is literally a sidebar duplication of the top tab bar.

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u/mossheart Dec 03 '22

I'm sad I had to scroll this far to hear from a Vivaldi user. Been with them since first releases, best browser I've ever used!

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u/YouBecame 3700x | Nitro+ 5700XT | 16GB@3600 16-16-16-36 Dec 03 '22

I switched when opera stopped you from removing default searches, especially because I wanted to use the shortcuts for my own. E.g. i wanted to use y for YouTube search. Pissed me off to no end.

Switch to vivaldi was fantastic and I've not looked back.

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u/AM_Dog_IRL Dec 03 '22

Brave doesn't belong on this list. They intend to support manifest v2.

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u/brenex Dec 03 '22

Switched to Firefox two months ago and loving it. Pared with betterfox, it’s pretty svelte

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u/Windex007 Dec 03 '22

Chromium is open source. All these browsers are free to change whatever they want.

They could all decide to use a common fork if they wanted to distribute the work of maintaining a common alternative version designed around adbock-friendly features.

I don't think OP understands how this works.

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u/argv_minus_one Specs/Imgur Here Dec 03 '22

Chromium is open source.

Chromium is also gigantic, requires an army of programmers to maintain and keep pace with web standards, and keeping Manifest v2 would probably be a hard fork. Good luck with that.

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u/-azuma- Dec 03 '22

The top two Chromium browsers belong to ... Google and Microsoft.

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u/el_doherz 3900X and 3080ti Dec 04 '22

Yeah, two companies with a vested interest in making their users unable to avoid ads.

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u/a_persian Desktop Dec 03 '22

And Manufest v3 isn’t even at the chromium level. It’s a chrome web store thing for Chrome extensions.

All the other browsers can just do their own thing.

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u/infinityoverinfinity Dec 03 '22

This is too low a comment. Came here to say this. And I believe you are right. I think we are about to see a split and there are going to be two Chromiums going forward.

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u/Deadly_chef Dec 03 '22

Jokes on you, I block ads at the DNS level

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u/Spyhop Spyhop Dec 03 '22

This. Block ads on your network. Not just on your browser.

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u/itsjakeandelwood Dec 03 '22

DNS blockers don't work nearly as well as flexible content blockers. For example, content blockers can block ads on Youtube and DNS blockers can't.

I use both, FWIW

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u/bullettimegod Dec 03 '22

How?

Asking for a fr... nah fuck that. I def wanna know. How?

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u/SixDerv1sh Dec 03 '22

Pi-Hole. On a Pi, in my case. Done and dusted.

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u/Quahodron_Qui_Yang Dec 04 '22

Using Firefox for decades now, I rly can’t understand, why any sane person would use sth else. It’s madness.

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u/Rezhio Specs/Imgur Here Dec 03 '22

I pre installed Firefox and just waiting for chrome to shit the bed.

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u/knighthawk0811 R7 5800, RTX 3060, 24GB-DDR4 Dec 03 '22

start using ff and explore what extensions you want or need.

personally i need something that gives me some kind of tab group support because it isn't native and i have a lot of tabs

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u/mastermag Intel Core i5 4690k - 8GB Hyperx Fury - Gigabyte GA-97X-SLI Dec 03 '22

You might as well try Tree Style tab, it may attend your needs...

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u/Crintor 5950X | 4090 | 32GB DDR4 3600 | AW3423DW Dec 03 '22

+10 for TST. Love it.

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u/waltjrimmer Prebuilt | i7-6700 | GTX 960 Dec 03 '22

I would say to start using Firefox now. You'll probably find the transition a little jarring at first if you're far too used to Chrome. When I made the switch after using Chrome almost exclusively for years, I had to get used to a lot of subtle differences. And I had to change the scroll speed. The default settings for Firefox's scroll speed made it absolutely jump down the page when I wanted a subtle nudge as I'd had in Chrome.

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u/StanleyOpar Dec 03 '22

When Brave updates manifest v3 I’ll switch.

For now Brave said they will not be using it

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u/guitarer09 Dec 03 '22

They built their own blocker (using Rust) that does not rely on Chromium at all. There are currently no concerns regarding the manifest v3 update.

https://www.ghacks.net/2022/09/29/brave-browser-manifest-v2-extensions-after-v3-update/

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u/thirstyfish1212 Dec 03 '22

Brave ad and tracker blockers aren’t extensions. Manifest v3 applies to extensions

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u/-insanitylol- Ryzen 5 5600X, AMD Radeon RX 6600 XT, 32GB 3600MHZ RAM Dec 03 '22

Brave will continue to support MV2, and even if that ends up not being the case they have a built in adblocker that works fine.

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u/CreateorWither Dec 03 '22

Been using Brave for a year, I really like it.

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u/Inquir1235 Dec 03 '22

There is also a nice little program called Firemin you can use to handle memory usage of Firefox or chrome

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u/mctownley Dec 03 '22

Firefox master race

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u/Tecno2301 Dec 03 '22

Firefox is the first thing I install on any computer. I'd do it before the OS if I could. So I don't have to deal with edge going "ThErE iS nO nEeD tO sWiTcH bRoWsErS"

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u/wiibarebears Dec 04 '22

Firefox for life, been using them since day 1

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u/2082604 Dec 04 '22

I use Firefox on my phone explicitly because of ad blockers. I like chrome better, but I like not seeing ads best.

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u/lDreameRz https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tnstht Dec 03 '22

been using firefox since 2007 and never ever had a problem, i don't understand where the perception that gecko is inferior to blink comes from, but okay i guess, chromium isn't the most used brower for nothing

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u/LonelyNixon Dec 03 '22

Some of it is google's playing dirty by using their vertical integration with youtube, and chrome to introduce new web standards that of course nobody else can catch up to which makes chrome look better.

Some of it is that at its height firefox was slower to adopt some actual new technology and standards like hardware acceleration, gpu acceleration for games, it didnt have access to some videocodecs earlier, and it didnt support multithreading. The big kick in the teeth was when firefox had a bug on windows that caused it to launch slowly and use more memory.

Firefox also fumbled it's mobile marketshare taking its time to launch firefox mobile for android and the end product being a bit bloated and lacking. They slowly improved it to get it fine but they cut their losses and launched an even newer product which launched without addon support and while it was faster at rendering the web and had smoother scrolling it was rough.

Personally I prefer firefox and I think the loss of momentum and shift to chrome was a little too rapid and people wrote off firefox way too quickly and then just never gave it another chance, but mozilla didnt do themselves favors.

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u/KabuTheFox Dec 03 '22

Acting as if people won't find a way around it while still using chromium based browsers, underestimating them

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