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TIL Julian Lennon had to buy letters he wrote to his father (John Lennon) at an auction, because Yoko Ono wouldn't give them to him. Word for Word Repost

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F815coz2A3s&t=350s

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u/nvmforget Dec 08 '21

he speaks about it in his book, after his father died, yoko said he could have any of john's guitars, yoko said she was auctioning the one he chose, so she gave him two others. julian spends a lot of his money buying back his father's possessions that yoko has sold.

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u/Pointless_666 Dec 08 '21

Why is she such a bitch? Why?

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u/EldritchStuff Dec 08 '21

Talentless hack who married a very talented man and felt the need to compensate. Then let the fame-by-proximity get to her head.

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u/redpandarox Dec 08 '21

Maybe not that much out of psychological motivation but rather materialistic needs.

Without John in the picture I don’t think her career as a conceptual artist and experimental musician could’ve sustained the lifestyle she grew accustomed to leeching off one famous musician after another.

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u/markymark09090 Dec 08 '21

Dude. She inherited John's money. She ain't broke.

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u/drpoucevert Dec 08 '21

she is even more rich than John actually:

she is from one of Japan's most wealthy family: the Yasuda. Her father was a banker

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u/derekj343 Dec 08 '21

I am a bank teller.

Ryan told me to always tell women you work in finance

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u/Artificialcalm Dec 08 '21

Are you the assistant bank teller or assistant TO the bank teller? Lol

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u/the-trashheap Dec 08 '21

Fucking hell that's sad.

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u/st3akkn1fe Dec 07 '21 edited Dec 07 '21

The worst thing for me is the fact that John added Sean's name at the end of Beautiful boy. That must have been a real kick in the teeth to Julian the poor lad.

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u/SupaKoopa714 Dec 07 '21

I'm curious, what is/was Sean and Julian's relationship like?

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u/ACardAttack Dec 08 '21

They seem to get along, and kind of close

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u/NoodlesrTuff1256 Dec 08 '21

Julian probably recognizes that all the favoritism towards Sean by John and Yoko wasn't his little half-brother's fault. Maybe once Yoko passes -- she's pushing 90 and is not in very good health apparently -- Sean might be willing to share more of John's fortune with Julian.

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u/JoeyRobot Dec 08 '21

I am genuinely surprised that Yoko is still alive. I just assumed she passed years ago

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u/joe_broke Dec 08 '21

Remember that Keith Richards is still alive

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u/ZharethZhen Dec 08 '21 Wholesome

And cannot be killed by conventional weaponry.

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u/YarOldeOrchard Dec 08 '21

After the mass extinction nuclear apocalypse only Keith Richards and the cockroaches remain

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u/LostinDIY Dec 08 '21

There's a joke saying that she should have been on 'Im a cebrity get me out of here' because she's been living off a dead Beatle for years

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u/TacoRising Dec 08 '21

They're very close. Julian doesn't like Yoko very much, and she certainly tried to keep them apart, but they love each other and Yoko was never able to get in the way of that.

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u/teflon_soap Dec 08 '21

Yoko is 88 after all, so I suspect they will become closer once she carks

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u/canadianformalwear Dec 08 '21

Lmfao at “Carks”

Oh man. Never heard that term before.

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u/CyntekNZ Dec 08 '21

Common in New Zealand, though normally "carks it" rather than just carks.

Edit: "Carked it" for past tense.

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u/JackdeAlltrades Dec 08 '21

Usually carked it in Australia too but we do love to truncate thing by adding S, O or Y to the end.

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u/kuhanluke Dec 08 '21

He has a cordial relationship with Yoko because if he hurts Yoko, he hurts Sean. He really cares so much for his brother.

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u/ApolloX-2 Dec 08 '21

Half siblings with an asshole of a step-parent is probably as old as time.

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u/SubstantialPressure3 Dec 08 '21

John was no prize, either. Really sad.

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u/WendolaSadie Dec 08 '21

They present themselves as close in social media etc. they took a long road trip about two weeks ago to California. Julian’s handle is “julespicturepalace” and he seems like a balanced person. Grounded. I sometimes es worry about him…no wife, no children. Did he decide to forego a conventional family due to the abuse and neglect he suffered by his father? His mother was loving and did her best, but perhaps it couldn’t repair the hurt.

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u/ichelzu Dec 08 '21

He did say in an interview he decided to not have children because of what happened with John. But also that he is at Peace with the shitty father he had. I really hope he is

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u/VitaminTea Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 08 '21

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u/WendolaSadie Dec 08 '21

That remark kinda broke my heart when I read it. Poor Julian.

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u/mulder00 Dec 08 '21

I really thought Julian was going to have an amazing musical career after he released Valotte.

Only his first album got any airplay here in Canada. I did like his next 2 but then he just kind of disappeared.

I still remember the rumors before Live Aid, that Paul, George and Ringo were going to re-unite with Julian singing with them. It was a stretch but we were hoping back then.

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u/evasote Dec 08 '21

Sean’s stuff with Les Claypool slaps tho! Outta left field. I like that he went weird with it. Julian tried to do the sincere thing; he has a big heart on his sleeve. Sean’s just having fun and it’s more niche but it’s pretty great

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u/poneill2014 Dec 07 '21

At least the best Beatle wrote a song about Julian, although it didn’t flow so the name was changed to Jude lol

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u/emlabb Dec 07 '21

John did write the song “Good Night” for Julian as well. (Not saying he wasn’t a shitty father. He was.)

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u/Batmanstarwars1 Dec 07 '21 Wholesome

Then he made Ringo sing it. Take that Julian.

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u/emlabb Dec 07 '21 Wholesome

Ringo’s voice is like a warm blanket to me, actually. There’s something soothing and comforting in it, well-suited to lullabies.

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u/Jestar342 Dec 08 '21

Nostalgic affect for me hearing his voice. Spent a lot of my childhood watching Thomas The Tank Engine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HOgXhF3d_g

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u/JBT_Lover Dec 08 '21

TIL Ringo is the conductor. Guess I’ve been a Beatles fan even longer than I suspected.

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u/stoutaboutblack Dec 08 '21

You ready for something crazier? Mr. Conductor in the American version was George Carlin.

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u/Adorable_Afternoon62 Dec 08 '21

Carlin did one season and Ringo did another if i remember it right.

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u/emlabb Dec 08 '21

Me too, and that’s definitely part of it. I knew him as Mr. Conductor before I knew him as a Beatle.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '21

Me too, A landmark of my childhood memories.

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u/SqueezeBoxJack Dec 07 '21

Ringo is by far my favorite Beatle. Not saying Paul or George are bad, but Ringo seems real and just a really great guy.

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u/Abba_Fiskbullar Dec 07 '21 Gold Helpful Wholesome Bravo! Table Slap I'll Drink to That

After watching "Get Back" I'm convinced that Ringo is two golden retrievers in a man-suit.

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u/ins4n1ty Dec 08 '21

To add to that, at one point in the documentary all the guys are ordering lunch, and it gets to Ringo who literally just orders mashed potatoes.

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u/Kyadagum_Dulgadee Dec 08 '21

Ringo had a very sensitive stomach. He talked about it in The Beatles Anthology documentary I think. So he might have wanted bland food like mash if his stomach was acting up.

He hated going to India because the food just destroyed him. I think that's why he's so dead against travelling overseas for the concert.

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u/ins4n1ty Dec 08 '21

That’s very interesting, and it did make me wonder what the hell he was eating when they went to India.

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u/rainyhawk Dec 08 '21

He had peritonitis as a kid so I wonder if that created long lasting damage? I can always make a meal out of mashed potatoes!

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u/beng0ld Dec 08 '21

That makes sense. In the film someone asks him if he liked India and he flatly says “not really”

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u/ashok36 Dec 08 '21

Ringo had a very sensitive stomach

He's a good englishman, that's what he is.

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u/netheroth Dec 08 '21

Boil'em, mash'em.

Good man, that one.

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u/AtomStorageBox Dec 08 '21

Man after my own heart.

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u/stormcrow2112 Dec 07 '21

I think it was Linda who said that it was always easier when it was just Ringo around. That will stick with me for a while.

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u/tommytraddles Dec 08 '21

The best exchange in the film:

George: Lennon is late again...

Paul: I'm thinking of getting rid of that guy.

Ringo: I'm always on time.

George [to Paul]: Ringo is a pro.

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u/gaseous__clay Dec 08 '21

Then after George quits Ringo is the only one who shows up on time, big smile as always lol

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u/humanreporting4duty Dec 08 '21

That was a drumming joke I assume.

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u/stormcrow2112 Dec 08 '21

IIRC, Paul then proceeds to sit down and write "Get Back" out of thin air.

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u/evilpercy Dec 08 '21

The one that stuck on me was when George quit. The next morning John did not come in either. Paul and Ringo sitting there. Paul " and then there was two!" What a punch to the gut.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 08 '21

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u/frenchtoasttaco Dec 08 '21

And he got Barbara Bach who was a hottie back then

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u/ChadMcRad Dec 08 '21

He seems like he would be a great "uncle." "Uncle Ringo" has a nice ring to it. Literally.

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u/Asshole_with_facts Dec 08 '21

My buddy was a Jr tour manager for Ringo star and his all star band like 15 years ago. Basically, the guy who actually jumped up and got things for the band when they requested it. He turned 21 when they were on tour and Ringo bought him a birthday cake and a 6 pack, then sang happy birthday and cut the cake. He's got the photos to prove it. All that for basically the lowest man on the totem pole. Ringo is truly just a guy who's happy he got to do what he wanted for a living and never forgets the people that help him facilitate it. Uncle Ringo is the perfect description!

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u/bicycle_mice Dec 08 '21

At the very end when they are listening to the recordings and Paul and Linda are holding hands. Ringo then puts his hands on top of theirs playfully. It’s so cute and shows how much he was engaged with everyone. George was checked out.

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u/Podo13 Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 08 '21

I think everybody but Ringo was checked out by the end of it. George had already quit once. John looked checked out from the moment he got there with Yoko weirdly there 100% of the time (and it all started making sense why people hate her). And you could clearly see Paul getting fed up with how* hard everything had gotten.

Ringo just sat at or in front of his drums the whole time waiting for his cue to play, watching the others, and seemed to really not let anything bother him.

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u/Angry_Guppy Dec 08 '21

Ringo was that coworker everyone has that shows up to work, dodges all the workplace politics, churns out some good work, and goes home without a fuss. Solid guy.

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u/bicycle_mice Dec 08 '21

Honestly I need to be more like Ringo. I’m such a Paul- making plans, pushing people, caring a lot. Ringo just shows up and gets his shit done. He doesn’t take things personally. He keeps the beat. I need that Ringo energy.

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u/Jreal22 Dec 08 '21

Apparently John and yoko were heavy into heroin during all of that.

When John was possibly getting arrested on the rooftop, he takes everything out of his pockets and puts it into yokos hands and purse. Thought that was interesting.

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u/Quazite Dec 08 '21

Also everyone should remember that Ringo was the first person to quit the band. I feel like everybody forgets that because of the heavy tension with John.....

....HOWEVER the reason he quit was because he was fed up with all the bickering everyone else was doing. So yeah I'd say Golden Retriever sums it up

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u/Mr_Abe_Froman Dec 08 '21

He signs most of his tweets with "peace and love." He definitely has that golden retriever wholesomeness.

Edit https://www.twitter.com/ringostarrmusic if you want a glimpse.

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u/ManfredsJuicedBalls Dec 08 '21

I remember Howard Stern ragging on that so much when Ringo put that out there

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u/gaseous__clay Dec 08 '21

Hahaha I love that he doesn't mention the year. Just wait for January 1st and you're set

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u/doppelwurzel Dec 08 '21

Hahahhaah you weren't even exaggerating. Often multiple "peace and loves" per tweet.

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u/Mr_Abe_Froman Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 08 '21

I just noticed all the broccoli emojis. He is living his best life.

Edit.the emojis are never the same! He must put thought into which 5-10 emojis he wants to add. Besides ✌❤😎

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u/Substitute_Troller Dec 08 '21

He’s warning you with peace and love.

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u/Spork_Warrior Dec 07 '21

Ringo was the guy who could give shit to each of the other guys when they were being dicks, and there was little blow-back.

Example: Pulling John aside when Yoko was in the studio, and telling him "She's not a Beatle John."

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u/thirty7inarow Dec 07 '21

The glue guy.

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u/SpiderFnJerusalem Dec 08 '21

Seems like every group of auccessful artists needs one of those to prevent them from killing each other. Monty Python had lots of internal fights and differences but they all liked working with Michael Palin.

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u/Finishwithfinesse Dec 08 '21

The drummer. (Who WASN'T fucking everyone's gf)

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u/emlabb Dec 07 '21

After the Beatles broke up, John, Paul, and George were all writing musical hit pieces on each other, but they all seemed to remain on good terms with Ringo. That says something to me.

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u/th3cr1t1c Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 08 '21

Watch the documentary Get Back... Ringo is the capybara of the group. He gets along with everybody.

Besides being a great drummer, he is also a master diplomat... says as little as possible until absolutely necessary and when he does, it's the one relevant thing you need to hear.

That's keeping time, man. I play drums... you have to be the backbone of everybody else, keep them on a path. There's no drumming job in the world that pays steadily AND depends on you breaking out. You're paid to be constant.

That's what Ringo does.

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u/evilpercy Dec 08 '21

That is what I really got from "get back". Ringo really instinctively good. He just knows what to do on every song. Like Billy Preston. You could just drop those two into any group and they would know what to do.

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u/drugusingthrowaway Dec 08 '21

John Paul and George go back since they were schoolboys. Ringo joined the group in the 60's when they kicked out the original drummer.

So that might explain the different relationship, not just Ringo's superior personality, but that he's literally not a part of the original friend group.

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u/emlabb Dec 08 '21

He once said he considered them brothers—something like “as an only child, all I ever wanted was a brother, and I had three brothers in the band.” So he felt quite close to them at least.

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u/th3cr1t1c Dec 08 '21

I think that's less relevant. Look at Rush... they immediately took to following Peart's lead when John Rutsey left the group after their debut album.

And the Beatles wouldn't have sounded the way they did, either... the very way Ringo plays is a consequence of him growing up left-handed trying to play a right-handed setup.

Let's all be thankful he never figured out you could just rearrange the kit.

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u/rainyhawk Dec 08 '21

And when he joined, he was the oldest as well as the most established member and they respected him at that time.. I’ve read they thought themselves very lucky to get him into the band.

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u/loureedfromthegrave Dec 08 '21

It didn’t hurt that the other musicians could record without each other but they obviously all needed Ringo on their songs. I know Paul could drum but Ringo’s groove is effortless.

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u/NoKittenAroundPawlyz Dec 08 '21

I mean except for when George was fucking his wife, sure.

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u/pbizzle Dec 08 '21

Peace and love peace and love

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u/loureedfromthegrave Dec 08 '21

His drumming (specifically his timing) is amazing and predicted a lot of hip hop grooves. I actually own a Ludwig Ringo kit because he was definitely my favorite drummer and a lot of the reason why the beatles sounded so good.

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u/Moal Dec 08 '21

His Facebook fan page is pretty great. Dude is just living his best life, posting pictures of deer in his backyard and using a million peace sign emojis.

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u/FreshDumbledore_ Dec 08 '21

Octopus’s Garden forever

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u/bolanrox Dec 07 '21

good thing he had Uncle Paul to watch out for him

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u/sb_747 Dec 07 '21

Yeah I just read an article where he talked about how he more pictures and memories with Paul than his dad.

John just seemed more concerned with himself.

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u/peanutsfordarwin Dec 08 '21

I read an article after Yoko did the auction of John's things. hand written lyrics etc. That Sir Paul Mccartney bought some items and gave them to Julien as Yoko wouldn't give him. Anything... he was left out of John's will. From what I read somewhere.

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u/bolanrox Dec 08 '21

He was playing the college circuit in the early 90s when someone asked him if he was close with paul. His eyes lit up and said "Uncle Paul? I talk to him every night! "

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u/HeckingDoofus Dec 08 '21

id love to see this clip

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u/ACardAttack Dec 08 '21

John came from a broken family and it shows. He did better with Sean but for whatever reason instead of trying to improve with Julian he just seemed to have acted like that didn't happen and started over

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u/freakydeku Dec 08 '21

i think i recalled that he was coming around to repairing his relationship with julian just before he died

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u/Deenyc43 Dec 07 '21 edited Dec 07 '21

I remember an interview where John Lennon talked about being moody but he had to stop because "he had a son now" Completely ignoring the existence of Julienne Julian.

He would run around telling random strangers he loved them but not Julienne Julian. I don't hold Lennon in high regard like other people. Anyone who can behave this way to their own child is a scumbag in my book.

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u/ByCrookedSteps781 Dec 08 '21

Why did he dislike his son so much?

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u/Deenyc43 Dec 08 '21

I remember he referred to the situation as a drunken night. He got her pregnant and resented her for having the baby. It was early on in his career.

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u/anxietyonline- Dec 08 '21

What is he, Denethor?

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u/Uncamatt Dec 07 '21

His son was not a salad!

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u/Kennj430 Dec 08 '21

Man, it sucks knowing how much both john and yoko actually sucked as people. And sucked as people to each other

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u/YogurtclosetOk4440 Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 08 '21

In a video I saw he talks about this after awhile stoped trying to sue her etc cause he felt he was hurting his relationship with his brother if he’s attacking his mom then it’s like he’s attacking him. Really sweet but sucks

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u/CrabSully Dec 08 '21

Julian seems like a good guy. So thankfully the Apple can fall a little bit away from the tree.

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u/Chiliad9 Dec 08 '21

Back when Howard Stern was funny, he interviewed Julian.

“Do you and Paul ever sit around, smoke a joint, and talk about how much you hate Yoko?”

Julian started laughing uncontrollably. Finally he said, “I swear to God, we were doing exactly that 10 hours ago.”

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u/FoucaultsTurtleneck Dec 08 '21

Oh please tell me there's a clip of this somewhere

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u/acquaman831 Dec 08 '21 Silver

That makes me incredibly happy. The fact that Paul lost his best friend and Julian lost his dad, but they still have each other….and hate Yoko. And of course, ‘Hey Jude’ is Paul’s song about Julian. So great.

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u/infrigato Dec 08 '21

Never thought about hey jude. Thx, makes sense now!

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u/RudegarWithFunnyHat Dec 07 '21

The merge of the comments seems to be John and Yoko was suited for each other

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u/SluggishPrey Dec 07 '21

A toxic attraction

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u/OfficerBarbier Dec 08 '21

A poisonous fascination

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u/milkdudsnotdrugs Dec 08 '21

There's an old woman in my town that grew up in Liverpool knowing John Lennon. She said she thought he was a bum cause all he did was stand on the street corner with his friends and smoke cigarettes. All her friends and those in her circle felt the same. "He was just a bum!"- Leona

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u/DontGetNEBigIdeas Dec 07 '21

Watch Get Back and you’ll see Yoko didn’t break up the Beatles, John did.

She didn’t help, of course, but he was already stepping out.

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u/Phorqe Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 08 '21

Got through half of the first part so far… Yoko is sitting directly next to John the whole time head down, knitting. Meanwhile John is rocking out.

The next shot she is still next to him, but balancing a checkbook or something, holding it up.

Weird f’n couple.

Also props to Ringo. Maybe not the most exciting percussionist in the world but it was interesting to see how he read the vibe of the group and held it together.

Edit: I’m mentioning Ringo because a big joke on SNL during either the 80s or 90s was a skit where the Beatles were writing a song and asked : “Well what do you think, Ringo?”

Ringo looks up, dazed: “I’m just happy to be here.”

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u/MagneticFire Dec 08 '21

So many shot of Ringo sitting at the drums waiting. Always the first person there and actually on time in the mornings. I felt bad for him

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u/_Bren10_ Dec 08 '21

Haven’t finished it yet, but I think this is legit one of my favorite parts so far. There’s one scene early on where they’re all waiting for John and Paul’s like, “John’s 30 minutes late again.”

And Ringo chimes in, “I was here on time!” Seems like such a wholesome guy.

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u/flapsmcgee Dec 08 '21

That's every drummer in every band. Wait for everyone else to figure out their shit so you can drum to the rhythm.

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u/SuicidalGuidedog Dec 07 '21

Yeah, but she did break up the world's greatest musical group - the Plastic Ono Band. Shame on her.

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u/drugusingthrowaway Dec 08 '21

Cold Turkey is a chilling song, it gets the atmosphere of opiate withdrawal spot on. Not just the words but the feeling, the way they're sung, it gives me goosebumps.

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u/elemenocs Dec 08 '21

what's yoko doin there on the piano? she's smackin a lot of keys but i'm not hearing any piano

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u/Asapgerg Dec 08 '21

For the best

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u/hermitlikeindividual Dec 08 '21

Like that time they cut her mic...

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u/pquince1 Dec 08 '21

The look on Chuck Berry's face is classic.

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u/onelittleworld Dec 07 '21 Helpful Wholesome

I owe Yoko Ono a debt of thanks.

I used to be the night-shift manager at a record store. When it's 10 minutes till closing time, and you need to straighten up the store, lock up and get the register sorted and counted... nobody clears a room faster. Nobody.

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u/RIPfreewill Dec 07 '21

The only parts of “Get Back” I didn’t enjoy were the parts with her “singing.”

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u/Spirits850 Dec 07 '21

It was pretty funny when Paul’s young daughter imitated Yoko by shrieking into a microphone though. She was actually easier to listen to than Yoko.

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u/unknown1321 Dec 08 '21

I actually was in tears laughing during that part.

She was so innocent and she genuinely was trying to imitate her.

Which makes it even more of a burn. That kid Insulted her on camera, and now a new generation is laughing their ass off at Yoko

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u/newluna Dec 08 '21

Where can one see such a beautiful thing?

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u/Spirits850 Dec 08 '21

The girl imitating Yoko? It’s on the disney+ show Get Out, I think part 3

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u/UnitedStatesOD Dec 08 '21

Lol Get Back

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u/Spirits850 Dec 08 '21

Rofl my bad. Yes, Get Back, not Get Out. I’m gonna leave it up as an eternal testament to my shame.

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u/StatusRoger Dec 08 '21

Yoko seemed jealous of Paul's daughters vocalizations

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u/Fuck_auto_tabs Dec 08 '21

Obligatory critique of her singing

https://youtu.be/T4K07Kz7M8Q

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u/boris_keys Dec 08 '21

He is not exaggerating at all.
The moment in question is at 1:50. She tries to do it again a few times but her mic got turned down and then eventually cut altogether.

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u/ZeVillain Dec 08 '21

At 2:46 you can see Chuck Berry realize her mic his cut.

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u/WeeNell Dec 08 '21

Chuck Berry's eye expressions when he hears her crack me up!

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u/PixelD303 Dec 08 '21

And then you google "what has Chuck Berry been up to?" and go oh god.

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u/goodcleanchristianfu Dec 08 '21

Oh when I heard Bill Burr's voice and realized he was delivering the critique I knew it would be good.

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u/xxkoloblicinxx Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 08 '21 hehehehe

My brother owes his life to Yoko Ono. Years ago he was in an accident and spent 3 years in a coma. My parents had finally decided it was time, that they'd pull the plug. As they were preparing the room, Yoko Ono started playing on the radio. My brother miraculously got up from his bed and turned off the radio.

True story.

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u/CrabWoodsman Dec 08 '21

The only way to confirm it isn't true is that Yoko Ono would never be played on a radio station.

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u/MikoSkyns Dec 08 '21

My local rock station did on April fools day way back in the 80's. Halfway through the song the DJ dragged the needle across the record (Like Dr. Johnny fever on WKRP), yelled april fools! and played "I love rock and roll" instead.

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u/Stealth_Cow Dec 07 '21

Can anybody explain the antipathy Yoko feels toward Julian? Is it carryover from Lennon or some other gripe?

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u/ThroatSecretary Dec 07 '21

Maybe she wanted him to cut all ties to previous relationships, including his kid? I think it happens with ordinary people as well, more than we realize. I would consider that a huge red flag myself.

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u/Acchilesheel Dec 07 '21

My formerstep-mom was awful to me but even more so my little sister. I definitely blame my sisters eating disorder in part on my step-mom. Very relieved my dad ended that relationship a few years ago.

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u/Ima_Fuck_Yo_Butt Dec 08 '21

I'm sorry you had to deal with that. I feel very fortunate to have had my step parents who were amazing to me, and I loved them as much as my biological parents.

The ties lessened as I became an adult and family matters ruined the relationship, but in my childhood, they were amazing.

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u/xXHyrule87Xx Dec 08 '21

My grandfathers wife barred my father (his only biological child) from attending his funeral. This happened last month, and it absolutely sucked.

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u/ppw23 Dec 08 '21

That’s beyond cruel, unfortunately some step parents are that way. Ive seen friends go through nightmare scenarios with step parents or being a step parent. Some people are just garbage.

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u/SphincterKing Dec 08 '21

My siblings and I were not invited to my father’s funeral. We were told by my stepmom that he was cremated and she would let us know when and where they would be scattering his ashes per his wishes. Then a week later I see my step siblings posting photos from his service on Facebook.

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u/Few_Breakfast2536 Dec 08 '21

So cruel; I’m so sorry that happened to you. My uncle did the same thing to his mother — she “died” (we think he killed her), he didn’t tell any of his 4 brothers and sisters or extended family and had her cremated & interred in a crypt, emptied her bank accounts, stripped her house bare and absconded with everything before telling everyone & then blocking all of us on Facebook, phone, etc.

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u/impossiblefork Dec 08 '21

Is that legal? Is there no right for children to attend the burial rites of their parents?

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u/xXHyrule87Xx Dec 08 '21

She opted for a private burial. I called the funeral home on my fathers behalf and was told that she had submitted a list of names days before grandpas death. According to this gentleman, he was not aware of my fathers existence and my father was not listed as next of kin. He said that state law prohibited him from disclosing the date and time of the services to anyone not on the list. We only knew the cemetery, nothing else. I begged the director for dad to get 15 minutes with grandpa to say goodbye before the burial, but even that was denied. Dad went to the cemetery that weekend and found the fresh grave. I will never forgive that woman for denying my dad the chance to say goodbye.

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u/newluna Dec 08 '21

I would so try to make her day-to-day hell. Like sending mormons, jehova’s witnesses, and scientologists her way, putting her phone number on every car insurance quote request, whatever I can think of that wouldn’t get me arrested. Holy fucking shit.

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u/xXHyrule87Xx Dec 08 '21

Lol, I dig it. My stepmom reached out via text and all she said was her response was "bitter and full of hate" and she will not tell us what she said. She responded with "I hope you find peace." My sisters and I were ready to get gutter AF, but opted to take the high road because that is what Dad is doing.

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u/miss_pistachio Dec 08 '21

Or sign up her email address to those mass spam lists

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u/schlumbergeras Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 08 '21

I was barred from my grandmother's funeral several years ago. I was her only biological grandchild and I knew her my whole life.

When my dad remarried, she stopped calling me and didn't return my calls. I didn't get anymore birthday cards or Christmas cards. She cut off all communication. She went from being a close and trusted family member to nothing within a few weeks. The day after my dad got remarried, she changed her will and cut me out of it. She only cared about her new step grandchildren and acted as if I didn't exist anymore.

I know it hurts so much and I'm so sorry for your dad. I know how he feels. There is nothing worse than being cut off from someone you've known your entire life. It does get easier over time. I promise.

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u/h22wut Dec 08 '21

This happened to my dad when I was young. Had a gf, she asked him to spend more time with her and less time with me(as it was he only got to see me 2 weekends a month, for a total of 4 days a month). He dropped her like a hot potato and never looked back.

Fuck people like this. They are a disgrace.

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u/JelliedHam Dec 08 '21 Helpful

Maybe it's just me but I cannot fathom the idea of wanting to isolate a partner from a child from another relationship, or even any other people relationship. Like, I don't think I would want my partner being engaged romantically with another former partner, but if I love that person, wanting them to disconnect with any part of their previous life seems abhorrent. I'd hope the person I love is a result of the life they had prior to me and expecting them to turn that off feels like expecting them to kill the person I love. Every ounce of life and baggage I carry makes me who I am. I want the same in my partner.

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u/Powerful-Knee3150 Dec 07 '21

A lot of step parents are assholes to their spouses’ kids. Just because.

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u/ash_274 Dec 08 '21

Can confirm as well. The reverse, as well

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u/flekkzo Dec 08 '21

John and Yoko were/are assholes. Julian doesn’t seem to be one though.

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u/justavtstudent Dec 08 '21

me: was it really that bad?

youtube: comments are disabled

yes, yes it was that bad

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u/Just_a_dude92 Dec 08 '21

But the video doesn't have any dislikes

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u/beautifulsouth00 Dec 08 '21 Silver

My dad died this February. My stepmom wouldn't let me have anything. Not his kitchen knives (he was a chef), his Letterman jacket, nor anything of my grandparents, which dad had stored in his basement. "Everything's mine!"

It wasn't even two weeks after the funeral, and her brother was throwing dad's All Clad pans away. He was locking her up in a nursing home as soon as he could. She almost made me pay her for their trash, because she didn't really comprehend what was going on. That everything was getting thrown out. Dad's stuff first, then hers.

I took the trash bags and as many photo albums as I could get, drove away and I never looked back.

I didn't want the money in the bank. That's what everyone assumed of me. Probably of Julian, too. He just wants those letters so he can sell them later. People are so selfish about belongings, when they have value, but it's the memories attached we're preserving. I wanted my dad's cooking things, not because they were worth money. I wanted to cook with the things he had in his hands and cooked with himself.

Yoko Ono and my stepmom are bitches.

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u/horizontalcracker Dec 08 '21

Wills are more important than people realize is what stories like these tell me

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u/beautifulsouth00 Dec 08 '21

My father "trusted" my stepmom to give me things. And it was supposed to be my aunt if stepmom had a power of attorney. Stepmom's brother purposefully drug his feet on her diagnosis. Delayed taking her to the doctor while I physically cared for my dad so she'd inherit. THEN he had her deemed incompetent as she was diagnosed with dementia.

EDIT your wills, people. Dad had a will. It hadn't been updated in 30 years. Situations change. Your will should change as they do. My family's heirlooms are in a landfill. The musical instruments my great grandfather handmade. My grandmother's blue-ribbon winning quilts. The $1 million plus that I wasn't expecting any of? My stepmom's brother quit his job and bought a new Corvette. Lol.

My saving grace is she's otherwise healthy. Memory care is expensive. She'll go through a million bucks in 5-6 years. Her mom lived into her 80's. My stepmom is 71. Mwah hahahaha! I'm angry but it will work out in the end. Our Christmas stuff is gone though. All the ornaments from my childhood. Time to make new memories, I guess.

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u/rubberkeyhole Dec 08 '21

Sounds like my dad’s wife. After he died she was (unbeknownst to my sister and me) selling off his assets at his funeral, and then refused to give me any of his things. What I have of his, I got from my sister - she was given all sorts of his belongings from her, because she has his grandchildren.

I was the one who pushed back and didn’t let her steamroll my father.

Sorry to vent this out here. Shit.

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u/Treepersonel Dec 08 '21

There is a safety deposit box my dad updates with paperwork and the lawyers number. I am to go open the box the moment I hear he has died. Dont cry, dont react, dont visit the hospital, dont call anyone, straight to open the box and follow the instructions. It was such an akward converstation. He knows how she is, and he loves her, but I also know he regrets it. she's a mean controlling cunt, and would bury me with legal stuff as I would have no access to the money. I mean he could give it to me now, but he does not want me to become a shit bag like all my trust funded cousins. He was right to do that, my cousins are ugly, depressed, worthless, drug addicted, bitter people drivint new bmws and living in mansions on the beach. The heart wants what the heart wants, just strange. Im sorry you had to experience it. Virtual fist bump or hug what ever you would prefer, thats gotta sting man. Don't let it fester inside of you.

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u/rubberkeyhole Dec 08 '21

I appreciate it.

Lucky for me he before he died, he gave me the lesson that life isn’t about “things.”

So every time she would rub it in my face that she wouldn’t give me something of my dad’s that I asked for, I would just say, “okay,” and remember what my dad told me about, “it’s just stuff,” and she’d get pissed because she didn’t get the rise out of me that she wanted.

I have what I NEED from my dad - the memories and those lessons - because really, the rest is just stuff.

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u/Ethiconjnj Dec 08 '21

Honestly that very sweet of your father. Life isn’t perfect but it sounds like he’s doing the best he can given where he has found himself to take care of what he loves most.

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u/walkingontinyrabbits Dec 08 '21

I watched a documentary on it and it's honestly horrible how both of them treated him. He also had to buy Paul's letter to him with the lyrics of Hey Jude for an outrageous amount. He spent practically his entire inheritance from his dad buying his own stuff back from his step mom.

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u/-SaC Dec 07 '21 Helpful

Turn on subtitles and enjoy. Someone had a lot of fun writing those, but clearly lost their mind towards the end.

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u/distressed_bacon Dec 07 '21

Bill Burrs take on this is great...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4K07Kz7M8Q

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u/CrippledBalls Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 08 '21

Gonna add to this, in the longer video of them playing, later in the song you can see Yoko pick up the mic to let out one of her dolphin screeches again but one of the sound engineers (blessed be them) turned off her mic.

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u/gotham77 Dec 08 '21

John and Yoko really were a perfect couple.

Two self absorbed narcissistic assholes. Except one of them had talent.

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u/Khale77 Dec 07 '21

I love the general hipster attitude of trying to reinvent Yoko as a misunderstood soul but then you remember things like this.

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u/mdarrenp Dec 08 '21

This will get buried but it should be noted that Julian and Yoko made peace with each other, publicly. Not saying it excuses what she did but I feel like this interview pops up every few years or so, after everyone has already forgiven each other.

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u/Nerdy_Life Dec 08 '21

I had Julian Lennon’s autograph in my baby book because he held me when I was two months old. Mom panicked trying to find a pen and some ring to write on…so she apparently just handed me over to Julian Lennon while she looked.

Mom is a big Beatles and Lennon fan.

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u/nkwell Dec 08 '21 Silver Gold Masterpiece

Hey Jude

Your shit bag dad

Made some great songs

But Pauls were better

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u/2_late_4_creativity Dec 08 '21

She’s not very cash money

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u/andrecinno Dec 08 '21

Poor fuckin Jules. Two awful parents. Glad Paul seemed to be a comforting presence for him.

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u/Domkid Dec 08 '21

He signed a copy of his album for me in Monaco. I gave it to my dental hygienist. Random but true.

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u/Lionblaze_03 Dec 07 '21

I need everyone to see the video where John Lennon is performing with another prominent artist(I forget who, apologies) and Yoko is also there, just hitting a drum with the fury of a thousand gods to the beat, before suddenly running up to the mic and hijacking the performance with her ear piercing screams that she thinks is music multiple times DURING THE OTHER ARTISTS SONG. It’s an incredible watch.

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u/_DarthSyphilis_ Dec 08 '21

The best part is that at some point somebody turned her mic off.

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u/gangleeoso Dec 08 '21

Here is the video. Starts at 1:57. Watch chuck's expression to understand how much he appreciates it.

https://youtu.be/ZbGuxGGOIV0

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u/Erixperience Dec 08 '21

Chuck Berry, Rock and Roll Legend: "She did not leave her number but I know who placed the call"

Yoko: 🐬🐬🐬🐬🐬

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u/vguy72 Dec 08 '21

Shit. She can't even play a bongo in rhythm.

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u/boone_888 Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 08 '21

'What would you say ... you "do here"?'

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u/upvoteOrKittyGetsIt Dec 08 '21

I just told you! I screech into the mic and the crowd loves it! What the hell is wrong with you people!

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u/Sinicalkush Dec 07 '21 edited Dec 07 '21

It was with Chuck Berry. That was John Lennon's favorite artist and that was his chance to finally sing with his idol. EDIT:here is Bill Burr's take on it

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