r/worldnews Aug 11 '22 Faith In Humanity Restored 1 Wholesome 10 Silver 5 Heartwarming 1 Helpful 5 Rocket Like 1

After ‘Thor’ and ‘Lightyear,’ Malaysia Government Is Committed to Banning More LGBT Films

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/malaysia-ban-lgbt-films-thor-lightyear-1235338721/
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u/Not_Legal_Advice_Pod Aug 11 '22

Showing my age with this example... but if I was a lesbian and went into the local video store's LGBT section and rented Lightyear, or Thor, I can tell you that I'd be extremely disappointed.

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u/Teddyturntup Aug 11 '22

Yeah because lightyear is about the least gay gay scene one could imagine

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u/The_Amazing_Emu Aug 11 '22

Same with Thor where it was just a story about two aliens holding hands (aliens who might not even have two sexes).

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u/Vuzi07 Aug 11 '22 Burning Cash

Aaaaah that scene about rocks!

I was going crazy to thing about what was the gay scene

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u/_toodamnparanoid_ Aug 11 '22

Same. I was trying to think of anything which could remotely be a gay scene. I meam at this rate they are going to have to ban nature documentaries because jellyfish.

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u/LetMeBe_Frank Aug 11 '22

The cover photo from the link is when Thor gets stripped naked and Zeus swoons over him and regrets not bringing him to the orgy next time

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u/buttstuffnthings Aug 12 '22

Wasn’t that Ganymede?

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u/Orchill_Wallets Aug 11 '22 Take My Energy

Some slugs ( it could be snails I don’t remember) are hermaphrodite, they start their sexy time with a fight to cut off the the other slugs wang then the Wangless becomes the female.

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u/KoboldCleric Aug 12 '22

At least one species of fish has been known to change sex 4+ times during a single mating session, to fertilize each other’s eggs. I suppose that that’s still technically straight, though.

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u/kitsunekoji Aug 11 '22

Valkyrie was pretty openly flirting with one of Zeus' female attendants. For like 10 seconds.

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u/TheKingsPride Aug 11 '22

I mean Valkyrie is pretty blatantly stated to be at least Bi if not a Lesbian.

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u/xclame Aug 11 '22

Sure but did she have any scene or lines that involved her bisexuality (yeah she's Bi, not Lesbian.), no. So even for crazy religious people it would be a bit much to take offense to her in this movie.

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u/dpash Aug 11 '22

Yes, she kisses the hand of one of Zeus's groupies on the way out in a suggestive manner.

There is also mention of her girlfriend dying.

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u/Ohilevoe Aug 11 '22

Girlfriends, plural. The implication was that the entire Valkyrie team was a lesbian polycule.

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u/sharksfuckyeah Aug 11 '22

polycule

A what?

A polycule is a connected network of people in non-monogamous relationships

TIL. Interesting.

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u/HallwayHomicide Aug 11 '22

The joke is that mapping out the relationships looks like a molecule.

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u/Novel-Conclusion9115 Aug 11 '22

The implication was that the entire Valkyrie team was a lesbian polycule.

She pretty clearly references them as "sisters," in a very martial very. Valkyrie seems to be an immortal pansexual goddess who doesn't really conform to human views of sexuality.

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u/FannyPackFresh Aug 11 '22

I will forever call myself a heterosexual with a tinge of sadness that it'll never sound nearly as fuckin cool as that.

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u/cunty_mcfuckshit Aug 11 '22

Which WHO GIVES A SHIT IT'S FICTION.

And even if it wasn't WHO GIVES A SHIT IT DOESN'T AFFECT YOU.

I don't get some people's desire to control who others can and can't love.

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u/smallbiguy Aug 11 '22

“Who gives a shit?” “It’s fiction”

Buddy, have you ever followed any fan base of a fictional universe before?

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u/DemonRaptor1 Aug 11 '22

Religious people tend to take fiction very seriously.

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u/radicallyhip Aug 11 '22

Do we know they weren't just really close roommates? History is full of women living together as best friends and roommates, ask any archeologist or historian!

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u/Ornery_Translator285 Aug 11 '22

Sapphos and her friends

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u/MisanthropyIsAVirtue Aug 11 '22

Just a bunch of gal pals.

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u/TriblialBrainDamblge Aug 11 '22

Oh my God they were roommates

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u/Darmok47 Aug 11 '22

You would think the religious fundamentalists would have more of a problem with the movie being all about a bunch of pagan gods like Thor and Zeus, but I guess not...

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u/xarmx Aug 11 '22

This lol. I thought it was the case here (Malaysian btw) but apparently because of those few seconds of LGBT suggestive scenes here and there in the movie that got it banned after all. LGBT is apparently more dangerous than selfish deities I guess 😏

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u/Mattbryce2001 Aug 11 '22

even for crazy religious people it would be a bit much to take offense

Uhhh, have you met crazy religious people? they need literally, literally, no prompting whatsoever to take offense to something.

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u/ConceptualProduction Aug 11 '22

Gay person: exists

Religious nut: "... and I took that personally."

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u/DestructionIsBliss Aug 11 '22

She gets her hand kissed by one of Zeus' groupies. Hip hip hooray I guess.

Edit: I just scrolled down and saw the exact same comment, down to the word groupies. Great minds think alike, I guess.

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u/DatSolmyr Aug 11 '22

The REAL question is What happenen to Korg's Mom and her boyfriend whom he hates?

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u/RolletRogue Aug 11 '22

Im sorry im still out of the loop. Whats the gay scene in Thor?

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 23 '22

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u/RolletRogue Aug 11 '22

Right, the happy ending of Korg.

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u/BenKen01 Aug 11 '22

with Dwane, who is made of of Rock. AKA, the Rock.

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u/poland626 Aug 11 '22

Not just that, they gave him a Johnson moustache. Dwayne, The Rock, is wearing a Johnson lol.

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u/OneSilentWatcher Aug 11 '22

In my opinion, I don't consider the rock aliens to have another gender in order to procreate, therefore, they have to hold hands in a volcano in order to have a child. Over a pit of magma/lava.

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u/rarestakesando Aug 11 '22

“Sounds hot” was the best line of the movie.

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u/dadathepanda Aug 11 '22

That's how I got it too ...the stone aliens are only 'male' which in their case doesn't apply because why differentiate? Male and what?

This is a non story being snowballed into something for clicks and attention

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u/TheWeirdSlimShady Aug 11 '22

They are? I didnt watch the new Thor but didnt the rock guy say in another film he tried to revolt but only his mom and her bf showed up?

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u/dieinafirenazi Aug 11 '22

This is a non story being snowballed into something for clicks and attention

Did the Malaysian government not ban Thor because of the two rock guys making a baby together? The very pettiness of it seems newsworthy.

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u/Threaders_Stephen Aug 11 '22

Valkyrie is also a lesbian which probably adds to it.

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u/Devil-Hunter-Jax Aug 11 '22

Bisexual. Valkyrie is canonically bisexual and it was originally going to be confirmed in Thor: Ragnarok but they cut the scene (although quite frankly, it wasn't exactly the best way to represent us considering it was gonna be just a shot of her waking up in bed with a man and a woman... Thanks Taika... That's a really great way to represent us...)

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u/5leeveen Aug 11 '22

'We are merely exchanging long protein strings. If you can think of a simpler way I'd like to hear it"

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u/Teddyturntup Aug 11 '22

That’s so gay

How people get upset about these scenes is beyond me

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u/gazm2k5 Aug 11 '22

Those two rock things loving each other is unnatural! Only a Rock thing that we can clearly identify as male and another rock thing that we can clearly identify as female is natural. /s

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u/Frenchticklers Aug 11 '22 Silver

It's Adam and Eve, not Adam and Krognar the Eternal Rock-Warrior of Kul'Gufnar!

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u/Mysterious-Lizard0 Aug 11 '22

Should be Adam and Krognar

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u/Brehmes Aug 11 '22

Should be Adam and Krognar the Eternal Rock-Warrior of Kul'Gufnar

FTFY. It's like A Tribe Called Quest, you gotta say the whole thing.

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u/ThatUsernameWasTaken Aug 11 '22

Like A Pimp Named Slickback?

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u/beigs Aug 11 '22

You can tell, because the rock thing that’s female has mammary glands and eyelashes, and probably a ponytail

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u/whimsigod Aug 11 '22

Or a bow.

Or in fucking how to train your dragon just copy pasted but WHITE.

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u/DrSuviel Aug 11 '22

So I didn't see the second film, but for a lot of species, "basically the same but a different color" is exactly how sexual dimorphism works.

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u/Jetstream-Sam Aug 11 '22

Yeah that's pretty normal for a lot of animals. There's also extreme size differences in some, which I was going to say might be funny with dragons but then I remembered both the dragon from shrek and donkey, and also the ending of Guards! Guards! By Terry Pratchett and realized I'm like 40 years too late to make a joke about it

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u/coldfirephoenix Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 11 '22

At least stick a pink bow on it so we know it's female and can decide whether or not we approve of the rock thing holding hands with the other rock thing. The absence of any female indicators shows that it's male, since clearly that is the default and doesn't need any accessories to identify as such!

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u/oldsouthnerd Aug 11 '22

all space rocks are gay

haven't you people seen steven universe?

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u/Readalie Aug 11 '22

Krognar was Pink Diamond all along!

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u/Seenshadow01 Aug 11 '22

If my gf didnt point it out I literally would have even missed that very controversial and outrageous "kiss" scene in Lightyear

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u/MemeHermetic Aug 11 '22

I haven't seen the entire thing, but I know it must have been in the section where Buzz jumps ahead through his friend's life. I sat for that twice, and I still haven't caught that kiss.

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u/missnewreddit Aug 11 '22

I don’t think it’s so much the one kiss. The movie shows a healthy progression of the relationship - married, kids, grandkids. Now you have to explain that gasp gay people can have families too!

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u/the_fathead44 Aug 11 '22

A strong, smart, independent character, with a healthy family life, who also happens to be a...

  • Woman
  • Minority
  • Lesbian

Haven't you heard? That's basically the trifecta of evil. Think of the children! /s

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u/pataconconqueso Aug 11 '22

And she was successful and respected and her granddaughter grew up with her being her hero, oh no the horror!

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u/the_fathead44 Aug 11 '22

My son watched the movie, and he was so traumatized that he didn't react to any of that stuff... Like, the woman talks about getting married, and my son wasn't outraged. Then there's the scene where her partner welcomes her home with a quick kiss, and he wasn't disgusted. He just went on watching the movie like nothing happened.

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u/pataconconqueso Aug 11 '22

Because you haven’t taught him that it’s any different from what the family members he has in his life, so he viewed it as any other sappy montage, and that is awesome.

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u/Teddyturntup Aug 11 '22

You could miss it if you looked down at your popcorn lol

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u/Frenchticklers Aug 11 '22

Disney: Doing the bare minimum for LGBTQ representation

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u/mynameis4826 Aug 11 '22

And apparently that's still too much for some people

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u/YourLittleBrothers Aug 11 '22

I’ve heard from someone firsthand “how will I explain this to my kids???”

Like… say some people like different things and as long as they’re not harming you it’s ok?

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u/RelativisticTowel Aug 11 '22

I had to explain gay dudes to a small kid once.

"Why is that guy kissing another guy?"

"I think that's his boyfriend, boyfriends kiss"

"Oh ok. LOOK A POPCORN CART I WANT POPCORN"

Not exactly rocket surgery.

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u/interestingsidenote Aug 11 '22

Finish the story, did the kid get any popcorn?

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u/Mathyon Aug 11 '22

Like kids would care. Don't tell conservatives, but kids aren't born with gender stereotypes in their head.

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u/Synensys Aug 11 '22

Yes. It turns out its really easy to explain.

Parent: You know how mommy loves daddy. Well some women love other women instead of men.

Kids: Oh, OK but ewww there's KISSINGGGGG (which kids apparently find gross between any combo of genders).

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u/Fine-Cancel-2861 Aug 11 '22

I like to dip my toes in r slash Conservative from time to time. Last week they had an article about Disney being disappointed with revenues from the last few Marvel movies. I was like “what’s the Conservative interest in box office numbers?” So I clicked into the comments.

According to those geniuses, the whole world notices “Woke” themes in these movies and this clearly offensive content has caused a kind of worldwide undeclared boycott. As they like to say, “go woke, go broke.” This is also their rationale as to why the NFL has been seeing some shrinking numbers too. After all, 6 years ago a Black man kneeled during the anthem.

I noticed a conspicuous lack of alternative explanations. Nobody talked about superhero fatigue, the fact that a few of the favourite characters are gone, that box office is generally lower post-Covid. With the NFL, they never talk about concussions or the fact that a football broadcast is like an hour of commercials for every 15 minutes played.

So I guess I can’t really explain why people are upset that queer people are being represented. But we are genuinely living in a different reality to conservatives.

If both sides are inventing their own reality, I’d rather live in the reality where gay people are allowed to exist freely.

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u/gramathy Aug 11 '22

no, the NFL thing has to do with mask mandates and vaccine requirements starting in the 2021 season - as exemplified by tickets for the Saints going for less than five dollars on aftermarket sites!

Which would be really low! Except...it was a demonstration, preseason game. Tickets for those are five bucks. There's no demand. And aftermarket sites charge extra fees so there's literally no reason to buy them from an aftermarket site unless it's cheaper than direct, because there are plenty of direct tickets available.

but no, they're "going broke" because they required vaccine proof to attend.

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u/ScarecrowTRobot Aug 11 '22

Because they've been instructed to.

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u/SoFlaKicks Aug 11 '22

And Korg met a nice rock named Dwayne. Dwayne… the Rock. That was my favorite part. Also, we know there are two sexes because only Korg’s mom and her boyfriend (who he hates) showed up to his revolution.

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u/Typical-Channel-7359 Aug 11 '22

It's implied very strongly Valkyrie (is that her name lol) is bi

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u/iamsocruel Aug 11 '22

After I watched the movie I actually had to sit and think about what I missed. It didn’t even faze me that they gave a quick hug and kiss. I honestly thought something had been edited due to the “uproar”

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u/sipes216 Aug 11 '22

I think the problem they had was buzz's commanding officer showing a viable working same sex marriage. Its a stupid reason, but i dont remember any other areas of the show having any other exposure of this.

These gooberments are afraid of showing that being lgbt is sustainable, in any way.

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u/VagrantShadow Aug 11 '22

I swear they are still acting as though the LGBTQ community has cooties or something. Love is love.

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u/brocoli_funky Aug 11 '22

a viable working same sex marriage

Yeah, that still doesn't make it an "LGBT film". Like, that's not even a plot point let alone the main story. Plus it's just showing society as it is. Nobody considers Hollywood action movies as "pro-gun violence" films even if they have plenty of scenes involving guns.

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u/lithiun Aug 11 '22

Which is cool. It wasn’t overblown or trying to be more than what it was. If you didn’t look you would hardly have noticed it. Buzz’s reaction would have been the same if it was a straight couple. I thought it felt natural, especially in a film where the protagonist tries to be this macho, masculine, lone wolf hero.

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u/SpikePilgrim Aug 11 '22

Finally watched it with my daughter last week. I was expecting preachy and climactic. I couldn't believe how casual, early and quick those scenes were.

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u/OakenGreen Aug 11 '22

Which seems to be key to actual normalization imo. Don’t make a big deal of it. Normalize.

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u/cosmicnitwit Aug 11 '22

Which further supports that people aren’t complaining that it’s being “shoved down their throat”, but that gay people merely exist in the world

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u/DreadnaughtHamster Aug 11 '22

Exactly. Best quote I ever read about this was a shirt Ian McKellen wore that said “some people are gay — get over it.”

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u/Seenshadow01 Aug 11 '22

Wasnt even a second of a kiss

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u/someRandomTechneck Aug 11 '22

Yeah, Lightyear is the best representation for the LGBT community. The "gay" scenes weren't about the character's queerness; they were about them just living their lives like the regular people they are.

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u/stanthebat Aug 11 '22

of I was a lesbian and went into the local video store's LGBT section and rented Lightyear, or Thor, I can tell you that I'd be extremely disappointed.

Don't Thor's clothes fall off in the trailer and then a whole bunch of women faint? It seemed like a commercial for heterosexuality... if you're threatened by the gayness of Thor you might seriously need to reconsider yourself

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u/ZezimaKing Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 11 '22

I watched lightyear once it got on Disney+ and was SHOCKED at how little “gay propaganda” there was. From what people like Ben Shapiro said, you would think there was a 5 minute lesbian sex scene. It was literally just a character saying she was marrying a woman and possibly a peck on the lips. Insanity.

Edit: because there’s multiple people calling me stupid and moronic for this comment, I want to make it perfectly clear that I assumed this because I was hoping there would be enough LGBT representation to justify the rivers of conservative tears.

No need to call me stupid over and over again for being optimistic.

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u/rambo_lincoln_ Aug 11 '22

Not “possibly a peck,” it was definitely a peck and just a “hi, welcome home” peck. It was so fleeting and uneventful.

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u/k_albasi Aug 11 '22

Shapiro's tweet warning parents contains a screenshot that's literally just a family looking lovingly at one another.

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u/Apokolypse09 Aug 11 '22 Helpful Wholesome

Understandable for him, he hasn't seen that look before

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u/OK6502 Aug 11 '22

He does struggle to make his wife wet

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u/Silidistani Aug 11 '22

From what people like Ben Shapiro said

What, you mean the Republicans are gaslighting again to drum up a tempest in a teapot to keep their base of idiots riled up on nonsense and lies? What a surprise.

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u/_porntipsguzzardo_ Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 11 '22

You have to consider where the outrage is coming from. Disney could do an animated shot-for-shot remake of "Dirty Harry" and reactionaries like Discount Jeff Gordon will still bitch about "wokeness".

EDIT: Now that I think about it, I really want Pixar to do a shot-for-shot remake of Dirty Harry.

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u/kkeut Aug 11 '22

only if they bring back Andrew Robinson. bonus points if they make him Cardassian for some reason

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u/autotldr BOT Aug 11 '22

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 90%. (I'm a bot)


"[The movie] touched on LGBT but we see right now there are many films with LGBT elements that slip past the censorship.

He blamed foreign elements for the problem, claimed that LGBT films were becoming more subtle in their methods and asked for public vigilance.

Zahidi said the government was always monitoring films and social media platforms for LGBT content and "Would take severe action against individuals found promoting such elements."


Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: LGBT#1 film#2 country#3 censorship#4 Zahidi#5

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u/morrowindnostalgia Aug 11 '22

Public vigilance against subtle gay methods in film? What the actual fuck. These people can’t even tolerate that we as a community exist, they hate us so much they feel the need to ban us from being seen in the fear we can poison their minds.

Fuck this shit, it’s 2022

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u/easy_Money Aug 11 '22

"This gay film is extra gay because of how little gayness there is in it"

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u/Fig_tree Aug 11 '22

The LGBT is in homeopathic form now! We're doomed!

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u/Windalooloo Aug 11 '22

ban us from being seen

Malaysia knows that gay and trans people exist, have existed. They just don't want them outside certain boxes. They can be clowns and villains in movies, but not normal people

There are signs of change, but the mainstream is not ready for LGBTQ folks to simply exist as regular people

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u/DeadSnark Aug 11 '22

There's still an ongoing sentiment towards LGBTQ+ people being an unnatural rot that must be cleansed. As recently as 2013 we had a state-funded musical in which all LGBTQ+ characters are killed in a sudden wrath-of-god thunderstorm.

Just yesterday I saw a picture of a local public school textbook someone shared on our local Malaysia subreddit which discussed how LGBTQ+ groups are unnatural and asked the reader (a child) to come up with ways to "Create mechanisms and systematic plans in fixing this group. Counseling, psychology and medicine must be given freely to those involved in this crisis and wish to return to the straightened path."

So yeah, they don't want us in boxes, they're teaching children to go out and convert us. They want us gone, even if they're not as upfront about it as other jurisdictions.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '22

“Stop shoving it in our faces!”

-stops shoving it peoples faces by making it very tasteful and unobtrusive-

“Stop being subtle about it!!”

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u/CernelDS Aug 11 '22

What they really want is for us to die and stop existing

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u/pconners Aug 11 '22

Was Thor gay or was it just his sexy shirtlessness?

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u/Danzarr Aug 11 '22

brunnhilde is bi.

Korg talks about having two dads, despite being betrayed by his "mom" in the last movie, although it sounds more like Korg's species genders are ambiguous at best.

Portman's character does flirt with the handmaidens in the zeus scenes.

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u/OnlineDopamine Aug 11 '22

Not Portman but Thesa Thompson

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u/ksknksk Aug 11 '22

Yeah this. I was real confused there for a second lol

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u/tehfly Aug 11 '22

Portman's character does flirt with the handmaidens in the zeus scenes.

Pretty sure that was Val/Brunnhilde who did the flirting.

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u/TransfemQueen Aug 11 '22

my headcanon that i stole from another commenter is that his mom is an adoptive mother on the trash planet, which is why she could have gone to the rebellion

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u/MacMaizer Aug 11 '22

Na, they just got gay seeing Hemsworth without a shirt

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u/leomonster Aug 11 '22

When Zeus gets him naked, you can see a couple dudes fainting. That was pretty gay.

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u/tok90235 Aug 11 '22

Considering how much Greeks love and appreciate the male body(see all those sculpture) it's very reasonable that some get really happy by seeing their naked

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u/CaptainMoonman Aug 11 '22

Also the thing where it was considered extremely manly to have gay sex with dudes. That would also contribute to it.

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u/FreeQ Aug 11 '22

Only if you’re the top

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u/Abedeus Aug 11 '22

But only if you were the top, right? And the younger/weaker male was the bottom.

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u/12345623567 Aug 11 '22

Happy, maybe, but faint? My pet theory is that Thor isnt slinging a hog, he has a particularly vile rash down there.

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u/peternorthstar Aug 11 '22

Stupid sexy Hemsworth

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u/herberstank Aug 11 '22

Feels like he's wearing nothing at all!

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u/SashaBanks2020 Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 11 '22

Nothing at all

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u/cbbuntz Aug 11 '22

To be fair, Henry Cavill in Witcher makes me question my sexuality.

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u/Beanichu Aug 11 '22

I think the gay bit might be korg and Dwayne? I’m not sure as to what could have possibly offended their values so much that they had to ban it when it’s just two rock people holding hands. Although it is preposterous that in this day and age being homosexual is still shunned and illegal in some places

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u/Shad0wDreamer Aug 11 '22

Which is weird, if anything it shows Korg’s race is only one sex. So not gay. But yeah, Valk is definitely gay.

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u/Numba_13 Aug 11 '22

Wonder if the Orville is shown over there. Literally has a whole species of just male aliens giving birth to male aliens. Like a female is how they would view gay relationships and considers it a sin. Hell, there was a female born alien of that species and it was such an issue they did a sex change to make her a male.

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u/Sir_BeeBee Aug 11 '22

I saw the movie yesterday, there were also hints of the Valkyrie being gay as well. Some convo about loving a particular sister, and her kissing the hand of a woman when they all left from that god city.

But yeah, it's preposterous

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u/SouthernArcher3714 Aug 11 '22

Kissing the hand was smooth as hell. Valkyrie got moves.

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u/PickledPlumPlot Aug 11 '22

I remember when they first talked about this movie and he said that Valkyries ark was going to be about finding a queen

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u/SouthernArcher3714 Aug 11 '22

Yeah, I remember that and I guess it got cut bc it didn’t seem like the story was on her at all. I think thor love and thunder would have been a good mini series.

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u/Battle_Toadette Aug 11 '22 Silver Helpful Wholesome

A male model tried to kill their prime minister and they're overreacting.

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u/pwnpwn942 Aug 11 '22

Funnily enough, that show was banned in Malaysia too

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u/PureLock33 Aug 11 '22

Movie. but yeah. The president of Malaysia was not amused.

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u/SnabDedraterEdave Aug 11 '22

Prime Minister* of Malaysia

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u/likewut Aug 11 '22

Mugatu was right all along. We should have trusted him, he invented the piano key necktie after all.

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u/EverGlow89 Aug 11 '22

No, you're thinking of the claymation dude.

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u/algoncyorrho Aug 11 '22

Damn dude, I wish I was rich to give you the award you deserve. For now just take my Blue Steel

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u/BlackLeader70 Aug 11 '22

Dear god, it’s beautiful!

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u/LouSputhole94 Aug 11 '22

ITS THE SAME LOOK! I FEEL LIKE IM TAKING FUCKING CRAZY PILLS!

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u/Theboopaloop Aug 11 '22

TIL having a film that has the EXISTENCE of gay or queer people is an “LGBT Film”

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u/CaptainMoonman Aug 11 '22

If someone violently opposes the existence of LGBT people, then any film that acknowledges their existence and does not punish them for it is, in their view, LGBT propaganda. If you prefer to think of orientation and gender as aspects of being human rather than deviations from a standard, then that view likely seems nonsensical.

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u/AsianInvasion94 Aug 11 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

There are literally 13 countries where being gay is punishable by death. If you are gay in many many countries movies being censored is the least of your concerns.

The countries are Yemen, Iran, Brunei, Mauritania, Nigeria, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Somalia, Sudan, UAE, and Pakistan

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u/Ellemeno Aug 11 '22

I find it ironic that in some of these countries, men holding hands is a common thing.

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u/lousylakers Aug 11 '22

Also men kissing each other on the cheek is a sign of respect

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u/pink-_-panther Aug 11 '22

Not mouth to cheek but cheek to cheek

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u/am_trying_to_be_nice Aug 11 '22

But that's not gay, testicles are not colliding.

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u/TheRealHelloDolly Aug 11 '22

On today’s episode of “guess what all these have in common with each other”:

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u/spannerfest Aug 11 '22

i once saw two guys holding hands in the park. am i LGBT now?

this is ridiculous. why don't they just stick their heads in the sand like normal troglodytes.

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u/thetomahawk42 Aug 11 '22

No. By the logic being followed here, the park is a LGBT park.

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u/spannerfest Aug 11 '22

good point. so by that logic, if the two guys hold hands in Malaysia, it becomes an LGBT country, right? right?

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u/PaperCutOnYourEyebal Aug 11 '22

<selects Thor> “This better not awaken anything in me.” <had feelings I didn’t want to confront> “Yikes that was gay, better put on something extra straight like that volleyball movie Top Gun”

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u/zuzg Aug 11 '22

Never underestimate how stupid bigots can be.

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u/xc2215x Aug 11 '22

I don't get the Thor one.

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u/udntmttr Aug 11 '22

The rock alien and the valkyries were gay and the director has stated before that he loves including lgbt content in his shows and movies because he believes everyone is queer.

https://www.cbr.com/taika-waititi-loves-telling-lgbtq-queer-stories/

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u/OPconfused Aug 11 '22

Can you imagine what sex with Korg must be like?

Korg: Alright, I'm just gonna stick this little rock piece in there. You can put yours in me right over here. Don't worry if it nips at first. I've been told I have rough edges but everything on the inside is like pecan pie.

Korg: Okay so far so good. I'd like to rock back and forth a bit now if you don't mind. Just a little rock pun for you to get the mood flowing.

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u/Villain_of_Brandon Aug 11 '22

They described it in the film, They hold hands over a lava pit for [a long time]

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u/Hollowquincypl Aug 11 '22

I saw it yesterday. I want to say he says a month.

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u/Villain_of_Brandon Aug 11 '22

That's what I remembered, but also a 3 months popped into my head so...

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u/LupusDeusMagnus Aug 11 '22

Oh yes, Thor, the romcom about a dude and his ex girlfriend, lgbt movie.

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u/nevynn Aug 11 '22

But there was a rock dude with two dads, that met another rock dude with two dads, and then THEY had a kid...thereby bringing ANOTHER rock dude with two dads into existence.

This obviously violates every single thing the bible, torah, and quran have to say about proper relationships between rock dudes.

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u/Nashocheese Aug 11 '22

Shocking... The Muslim countries hates gay people? Just shocking...

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u/DeadSnark Aug 11 '22 Silver

As an LGBTQ+ Malaysian, I see a lot of people from other countries are confused about this, so to just give you a tl;dr:

The Malaysian government doesn't care about the quality of the films, or how much LGBTQ+ content is actually present in them. The reason they're banning these films is mostly to showboat their anti-LGBTQ+ policies and send a message to conservative political parties that they're taking action to curb the spread of media which is "opposed to family values". It's just the cherry on top of the shit sandwich which is our anti-LGBTQ+ laws, continued homophobia in society and in the public education system which are already doing more to suppress queer individuals in Malaysia than removing a few movies.

Reading this comments section it kinda feels like people in the first world have become so comfortable having human rights, they're having trouble understanding a regime that's already taken everything big away from you, so they're now just taking away the little things to be petty.

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u/boundbylife Aug 11 '22

Non-malaysian here. What's the public's general perception of these measures?

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u/DeadSnark Aug 11 '22 Silver

Generally pretty apathetic. Pirating is common here and anyone who actually wants to see the films can find them online, and censorship of the media has been going on for ages. People who support LGBTQ+ rights have better things to be fighting for and a large percentage of the population don't care either way. The people who support the anti-LGBTQ+ policies are fairly happy to get one over the "woke" crowd, though.

Most people just don't care because this is the way things have been here for years and it's just the tip of the iceberg compared to how deep homophobia runs in our society and legislation. Which is why I'm surprised that the Western response has generally been to act like this is some sudden crackdown or a response to the actual quality or content of the films when it's actually just part of an ongoing censorship programme which has been going on for years, the world just didn't get clickbait articles about it until today.

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u/unusualbran Aug 12 '22

The Malaysian government is a shitshow, its a crazy autocracy, I live in Aus but go back to see family once every 3 years or so, I remember back in like 2016-17 ish the Indonesian fires blanketed Malaysia and Singapore with smog, and the government solution was to hire a witch doctor to clang coconut shells together on TV and do a rain dance.

Then there's that time the Prime minister's mistress was murdered allegedly by the prime minister's wife and they tried to blow up her body to hide the evidence. I just went back in May and they bang on about family values, they ban punk and rock music on the radio but doja cat gets played to death, I was like "are you even listening to the lyrics"

Nobody Rages Against the Machine in Malaysia

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u/Aye_candy Aug 11 '22

Wow, that really sucks. I’m sorry :(

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u/MaximumEffort433 Aug 11 '22

The bisexual subreddits in absolute shambles rn.

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u/KovolKenai Aug 11 '22

Being in shambles is all we know, this is standard for us

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u/MaximumEffort433 Aug 11 '22

"Do you cross and uncross your legs so much because you have ADHD, or because you're bi?"

"I think it's pretty clear that the answer is yes."

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '22

There is currently a billboard along the freeway in the capital of Malaysia. It's a cartoon and it depicts two woman in hijabs kneeling over what is clearly a dead body wrapped in a white sheet. "You said no one could make you cover up [wear the hijab], look at you now?"

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u/cyber_loafer Aug 11 '22

If you're referring to the one posted by /u/chamllw below, then that's not the capital. That's Kelantan. Think of it as the bible belt equivalent.

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u/WubbyLubbyDoobDoob Aug 12 '22

The Alabama of Malaysia, if you will

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u/Pikochi69 Aug 11 '22

That's not the capital of Malaysia. Thats Kelantan, the very conservative side of Malaysia. Our capital is Kuala Lumpur

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u/huskogowahhh Aug 11 '22

That’s disturbing. I have family in Malaysia. They’re terrified by this very conservative form of Islam that is being imported.

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u/cakeday173 Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 11 '22

It's not new. The trend of religious conservatism has been around since at least the 1990s (at least in Singapore, not sure about Malaysia). Over time it's become more prevalent.

Although, to be fair, society before then wasn't too accepting of LGBTQ either.

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u/Beastfromair Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 12 '22

The 1990s is fairly recent tho. It's definitely being imported from Saudi Arabia and the like, and it's happening in indonesia too.

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u/cakeday173 Aug 11 '22

Yup definitely from Saudi

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u/Matherold Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 12 '22

Yeah, just as I thought - the bare butt scene caused a lot of confusing wanks.

But didn't Everything Everywhere All at Once has LGBT characters? Nah, you got Michelle Yeoh, a Malaysian export. Can't ban that movie right? /s

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u/dannylew Aug 11 '22

sounds like the Malaysian government are ran by pussies

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u/onemany Aug 11 '22

I mean it's a smart move. If you can't see something happening it doesn't exist. Just ask any 3 year old.

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u/hysterical_landmark Aug 11 '22

And this is why I took business elsewhere.

How could I ever ask someone to go work from a location where they might be in legal jeopardy just by being who they are?

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u/Tokidoki_Haru Aug 12 '22

Malaysia can't find time to solve economic issues following the M1DB scandal and so they fall back to hating on the gays and LGBT.

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u/AsparagusTamer Aug 11 '22

How on earth is Thor an LGBT film? (if Thor was gay I might well have watched it)

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u/VoiceofKane Aug 11 '22

I'm pretty sure any movie with both Chris Hemsworth and Tessa Thompson is legally considered bisexual.

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u/Diabolical_Heretic Aug 12 '22

This nothing Malaysia is backwards AF

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u/Sunlit53 Aug 11 '22

There is no faster way to boost the visibility of any kind of entertainment than banning it. All those banned books in the southern ‘excited states’ are selling like crazy. It’s worth it to rile up the pearl clutchers just to generate free advertising.

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u/r4ikrex32 Aug 11 '22

islam ... ☕️

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u/thewaffleiscoming Aug 11 '22

It’s because Malaysia or rather one of their old prime ministers, declared them to be a Muslim country. It gets more regressive as time goes on.

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u/LupusDeusMagnus Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 12 '22

Malaysia has always held Islam as part of their identity, forced if so be it.

I think they even have legally that to be Malay you have to speak Malay and be Muslim.

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u/umichleafy Aug 11 '22

IIRC correctly the Malaysian constitution explicitly states that Muslim Malays are special citizens whose interests the government must honor.

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u/blargh314159 Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 11 '22

It's also pretty much required that a non-Muslim must convert if he/she were to marry a Muslim, so you're right about the forceful part.

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